I played through Torna again in the lead up to the Smash release and it really does hit harder the second time, very tempted to replay the main game again it's going on two years since I last did that.
The remix of Counterattack just feels so lukewarm and aimless, I can kinda see the groove they were going for, but as ye are saying the percussion really lets it down. I wouldn't say the songs chosen are bad but I would say it's not as good as it could have been. Happy with the fact that I got "Acting God" in and the medley is a huge step up from the first Xenoblade medley but baffled by the inclusion of Argentum. Of all the area themes why Argentum? Such a strange choice.
@mr_somewhere Argentum doesn't feel like a battle song so I was baffled too by its inclusion. It's almost like putting "Environmental Noise" in Smash... oh wait. I can imagine a fight to it but it's an area theme, not a battle theme.
@TheJGG Especially considering they had Tantal Day right there or even the World Tree theme itself which was slow but a jam, I could see it fitting at least fitting more than Argentum.
If the rumours about Switch Pro rendering in 4K are true, who else thinks Xenoblade 2 will possibly be the biggest beneficiary in the entire Switch library?
@Dezzy Hmm... I don't know about Xenoblade 2. It has an art style that works in 720p as well as it does at 540p. There's things like increased draw distance, but I honestly feel like it looks fine in 720p. I can see it looking much better in 4K though; increased texture definition and all. But even in handheld mode for me it's perfectly playable.
If anything I think Xenoblade Chronicles X will, because it has the most realistic art style in the whole series, and therefore would benefit more from 4K. Games that imitated realism would profit more, although there aren't many games like that on Switch because Nintendo already knows that cel-shaded graphics are good irrespective of image quality.
I'd think that a bump in performance that keeps XC2 close to a consistent 720p@30 - like XCX was - would be most welcome, regardless of any further upscaling. Oh, and not having things like titan weapons pop in at point blank range would be nice.
The main thing letting XCX down is the character models, and they could use a serious rework if the game ever comes to Switch. Seeing the landscapes in fabulous 4K would rather lose its edge if everyone still looks like a plastic doll. (And yeah, I know that's a tell for later in the game...)
In terms of the Switch games that would look best in 4K, I'd suggest Bayonetta 2 and Astral Chain. I already know that the potential is there from playing Platinum's other games on the PC. Oh, and maybe we'd get a less sad looking version of Outer Worlds.
@Dezzy I'd guess DOOM 2016 if it's an automatic improvement. If it requires a patch for the improvements to be present then yeah, XC2 would probably be the one (with Bethesda now owned by Microsoft there's no way Switch would get an upgrade patch as it would devalue xCloud).
This is a thread about Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and the DLC. Please talk about something relating to the game, which doesn't include hardware revisions that aren't confirmed to exist.
In my latest playthrough I've reached Fonsa Myma in Chapter Three. I really... really like Zeke, and liked him since I encountered him years ago. He exudes the perfect amount of wit, and charisma.
Well, I am the classic example of how marketing works lol Pyra in Smash has definitely motivated me to finally get back to this game and finish it. Pretty sure I'm close to the end. You know, I'm just gonna be honest and start a new run because I don't remember a single thing lol
@rallydefault I don't have any of the Fighters Pass 2 characters, and aren't really influenced by Smash much, but I hope this time people check out the game and play it, just like Byleth. My timing for buying games that eventually got into Smash isn't too bad, I have ARMS from launch, bought Fire Emblem: Three Houses a month before the Smash reveal, bought FF7 Remake six months before Sephiroth came out, bought Splatoon before Ultimate itself was announced... the Xenoblade games are no exception, I started playing Xenoblade 1 five years ago, but I literally didn't know enough about Smash, or care enough at that point, to know who Shulk was. I beat the game then realised, oh, that guy's in Smash, that'll be good to expose people to the series.
The Three Houses one is strange, because I had started playing it, and was really into it. Bought the character, played it, and Byleth is almost like a second main when I do play the game once a month. I didn't care about the hate, I believed Three Houses was a legitimately good game with a good protagonist.
@Ralizah@link3710 You know why Beneath the Mask is so good? It was arranged by ACE. Their music is so full, so faithful and special. All their area and battle themes from both Xenoblade games are fantastic. Spiral Mountain was arranged by the man who composed it to begin with, almost like Hirokazu Tanaka's remixes, so as far as creative interpretation goes it's limited. Yoko Shimomura's arrangements are amazing as well, breathing new life into older songs.
The Smash arrangers I don't like are Yuzo Koshiro... that's it. His work uses such an outdated sound font that when combined with realistic instruments, sound horrible. The Tiger! Tiger! remix is an example of this, it adds literally nothing new to the song except some drums that clip a bit when they're played too fast. His Splatoon remix was awful. If you want to know how to make a good Splatoon remix, go ask Chip Tanaka, or Tomoya Ohtani.
To link3710 I've listened to the Ultimate music on my computer, it's perfectly fine. I imagine it sounded less good on the Switch because of compression but some of the arrangements just flat out suck.
Xenoblade 2 was done dirty with remixes, and the only reason it wasn't a complete failure was because of ACE.
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Yea I haven't yet purchased the second Fighter's Pass because my group that usually plays Smash together hasn't congregated during the pandemic. Once things get a bit closer back to normal I'll definitely buy the second pass so that we have all the fighters to choose from.
My experience with Xenoblade Chronicles 2 was... up and down, for sure. Generally I prefer straight-up fantasy settings for my RPGs, but I actually really love this world. It's very creative. The combat was not fun for quite some time because I feel like the game doesn't adequately explain it to you, but once I watched some videos online I started to enjoy the combat. But then I came across a part that needed me to have a certain skill level and I just didn't have it, and I didn't really know what to do. The game can just be kind of confusing... I have close to 40 hours in it but I still feel like I don't understand most of the systems.
@TheJGG I wasn't aware that the Smash soundtrack had been released anywhere? I thought the only versions on the internet were ripped from the game (thus are rather compressed). The main copy of the soundtrack circling the internet uses other releases of the songs where possible (Melee, Brawl, 4, or original games), it's only songs that are exclusive to Ultimate that have no high quality release yet.
@rallydefault I spent two hundred hours in the game and beat the Torna DLC, and I still don’t know what a fusion combo is. It takes time but is absolutely worth the investment.
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