Well I got my invite for the US switch preview tour.I'm going to the DC event with the wife February 10th. Thank you eventbrite. So glad I live in the DC metro area.
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It certainly sounds like an interesting crossover. Since Nintendo oversaw it, I have confidence that it'll at least be decent. A strange combination to be sure, though
I am struggling to believe that's the title they're going with.Just the name alone makes it sound like some budget E-shop download.Maybe Nintendo don't want to have Mario's name in the title so it doesn't get confused as one of their own games like what they done with Hyrule Warriors, but just having Kingdom in the title isn't enough.Rabbids v The Mushroom Kingdom or something would be better.
That list is soooo fake...
Its been rumored that the new Assassin Creed's game that takes place in Egypt has the subtitle "Empire" - no way its going to be simply AC: Egypt.
So it seems Nintendo UK has started sending out emails to winners of the giveaway for the chance to play the Switch next weekend. Keep an eye on your emails!
@WebHead I think Nintendo has had official Switch accounts on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook since the reveal but they're UK based in believe. So this seems like Nintendo maybe looking to follow suit with each region.
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@StuTwo
Why wouldn't it be the 3D Mario game? It's Mario, it's 3D and there's platforming. I think you're grasping at straws here. What you're saying just doesn't make any sense.
Relax, I'm in agreement with you - my thoughts and speculation about the footage is the same as yours (and the same as just about everyone else's). It's a 3D Mario platformer - the successor to 64/Sunshine/Galaxy/3D World.
My point is, however, that this is still just thought and speculation. It's not a fact and I think it's always dangerous to take speculation as fact - even when it seems to be "sure thing" like here.
And even if it did Nintendo would be setting themselves up for huge amounts of negative press. If they didn't have a 3D Mario ready for the first year? They wouldn't have shown that footage.
Maybe. I suspect that Nintendo intends to have it ready for the first year (hopefully the first day) but if it's planned for later in the year it could easily slip into 2018. It wouldn't be the first time. There's a reason why Shigeru Miyomoto is the man attributed with the quote "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad".
In terms of Metroid Prime Hunters on the DS. For a start I think it's interesting that you had to go back that far to find a game that promoted a console and came out more than a year after launch. Just barely but still. You're also ignoring the fact that for the DS having a game like Metroid at the reveal was important. It was as much about showing what the DS was capable of as it was showing that a Metroid game was in the works. It was shown early for a reason. Not unlike having the Zelda tech demo for the Wii U reveal. I think its fair to say that the 3D Mario is not there for that given that they already have a Zelda game to show.
I think it's there as a marker - much like Metroid Prime Hunters. They wanted to make it very clear in that first trailer that this is the machine that you will be getting your console quality games on. It's not a handheld with "simplified" or compromised games. They also wanted to avoid the mistake of the Wii U showing NSMBU very early - that's a fantastic game but easily written off as "just another lazy 2D platformer that could have been done on the SNES".
They also wanted to communicate that Switch is not just a Wii U porting machine.
So it was important that they teased a big, new first party game in the trailer and it had to be Mario.
And the third and probably biggest counter argument to this theory of yours? The rate that Nintendo publishes games. Based on the rate Nintendo has published content in the past it's almost like clockwork. Every year Nintendo will publish around 16 portable releases and 12 home console releases.
I don't know. They've certainly held some things back from Wii U but I think it's impossible for us to know just how many resources they've internally pulled into making, say, Zelda over the past 12-18 months. Monolith have certainly been working on it and they're likely not the only ones.
Nintendo will probably still look to release around the same number of games overall to diversify the risks and give them a varied portfolio but it might be that they've decided in their business plan that mobile games are going to take the place of some of the smaller projects from previous years or that they've decided to publish themselves a few Switch ports of older 3rd party games to get to their 12 release per year target.
We just don't know yet.
I can understand people being sceptical but IMO doubting something that seems reasonable despite the evidence? That's just as bad as being overly hyped when there's no reason to be.
I just think the evidence at the moment is very slight. We've only seen a few seconds of a game that has yet to be even officially announced.
I do think it's reasonable to assume it's coming in the first 6-9 months but I don't think, based on the facts that we've been given so far, that it's a 100% definite "sure thing".
Haven't even received an invitation, and I've been part of Club Nintendo since the early GameCube days and I even have a My Nintendo account that I use on a daily basis coughcough. It looks like Nintendo doesn't even want me near a Switch! Are ya afraid I'll judge it too harshly!?
@Octane yeah tbh i don't get this whole private thing. Shouldn't they want as many people to try this as possible?
Crowd control, maybe? If its public, you may have a lot of people in the event and with all the hype, well, it may get out of hand.
On another topic, I was reading a summary of that OBE1 guy (courtesy of Gaf), and it looks like his last announcement was that there is a Shin Megami Tensei in development exclusively for Switch, aiming for release in 2018.
If that's true then that might explain the no from Atlus to develop a Persona port for NS - Persona remains as their exclusive series for PS and SMT becomes the exclusive series for Nintendo systems. Not a bad arrangement in my opinion.
@StuTwo
If you ask me there are two indisputable facts around the Switch's software lineup. Firstly we know that Nintendo published less games in 2016 than they usually do. For 2017 they're even further behind if we only talk about the games that are "100% confirmed". Combined it works out to be ~20 games less than their usual output. The second thing we know is that in the reveal trailer they showed 3 new games.
Basically what I'm saying is that they should be sitting on a list of games like this. This is what a list of that many Nintendo published games looks like:
Wii Sports, Excite Truck, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, WarioWare: Smooth Moves, Wii Play, Super Paper Mario, Mario Party 8, Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree, PokÊmon Battle Revolution, Mario Strikers Charged, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Donkey Kong Barrel Blast, Battalion Wars 2, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn, Super Mario Galaxy, Link's Crossbow Training, Endless Ocean, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Mario Kart Wii, Wii Fit
What they've done with the Switch is the equivalent to having a list of games like the above list and making a trailer that shows Zelda, Smash Bros, Mario Kart and Galaxy. Which is basically what they did for the Wii at E3 2006. But instead of being hyped about that and wondering what else there is? Your first instinct is to say that there isn't enough evidence to verify that the Mario game they showed is even a game at all......
Sure we don't have the game in our hands but you're kidding right? How does that make any sense? Why would they do that? I get that we are not being told a lot. But that doesn't mean that the gaps in the information we have is filled with less than nothing. We've been shown footage of 4 likely Nintendo published Switch games out of a likely 20 or so we'll get by the end of 2017. How did you manage to turn that into 1 game?
@Octane yeah tbh i don't get this whole private thing. Shouldn't they want as many people to try this as possible?
Crowd control, maybe? If its public, you may have a lot of people in the event and with all the hype, well, it may get out of hand.
I can confirm it is pretty much this. They don't want it becoming a mad rush. You've seen how mad people got in 2016 for Nintendo things. They have even split up the viewings between morning and afternoon. I am in the morning.
It is also to make sure that the people who are invited can just walk up to a console and start playing with little need for waiting. If you have been to a Gaming Expo you'll know exactly how the queue times can get out of hand
But instead of being hyped about that and wondering what else there is? Your first instinct is to say that there isn't enough evidence to verify that the Mario game they showed is even a game at all......
Oh I'm hyped. My first instinct is to day dream about all of the great stuff that could be shown next week. It's completely plausible that the Switch launch window line up will be by far the best that Nintendo has ever given us and that excites me greatly.
My second instinct is to question that.
They might hold the announcement of big games back for marketing reasons. I'd be absolutely amazed if, for instance, we can't play Wii Sports or a direct sequel on Switch within 18 months of launch. It's such a huge game but I think there's no chance it gets announced next week because it actively would work against the audience they hope to attract. The same goes for things like Animal Crossing, Nintendogs, even Pokemon. They're all definitely coming but it might not be in Nintendo's interests from a marketing perspective to talk about them before launch.
Likewise I think there are good sound marketing reasons why Nintendo might announce big games like Mario and Metroid that are a long time off launch. It allows them to position Switch as a serious console aimed at "core gamers".
I think Mario is coming within the first 6 months (probably before E3) but I'm questioning whether the evidence is strong enough for there to be a consensus that it is definitely coming.
It's weird to think in just two or so more months we'll have this mystery of a console in our homes. As frustrating as the lack of information was for 2 years, it's exciting to know it's so close now
Lets not forget that there's clearly an embargo on most 3rd parties that should lift after the presentation, so the 3rd party games that are coming that weren't in the presentation could be announced on Twitter.
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