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GrailUK

@skywake Ahhh the Christmas present to myself tip. I like it lol!

I never drive faster than I can see. Besides, it's all in the reflexes.

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Octane

@skywake I mean the actual word ''NX'', there's no reason why they had to name a specific device. If they had said that they were working on the next dedicated hardware as usual, then a lot less people would've cared, because ''that's what they always do''. Give it a name and you give people something to talk about.

Octane

erv

Octane wrote:

@skywake I mean the actual word ''NX'', there's no reason why they had to name a specific device. If they had said that they were working on the next dedicated hardware as usual, then a lot less people would've cared, because ''that's what they always do''. Give it a name and you give people something to talk about.

They needed to. They announced their mobile stuff, without a tangible offset we would be speculating their abandonment of us instead.

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Octane

@erv I understand that, but also I think that saying that they are working on other dedicated gaming devices and that they have no plans to abandon that market would've been enough too. If that still results in people speculating about Nintendo leaving the console market, then those people would've found a way to speculate about that regardless of what Nintendo would've said.

Octane

WebHead

and if its not evident yet nintendo doesnt care what the internet says.

WebHead

Therad

GrailUK wrote:

@Therad "Here ya go lil Jimmy, Santa got you a pre-order."
Erm...quite possibly the worst Christmas present ever!

Or little Timmy can use his christmas money, that cheap bastard!

Therad

Grandpa_Pixel

Therad wrote:

GrailUK wrote:

@Therad "Here ya go lil Jimmy, Santa got you a pre-order."
Erm...quite possibly the worst Christmas present ever!

Or little Timmy can use his christmas money, that cheap bastard!

Or he can sell his soul to the Devil for NX. I did that for Fates. Now I have praise Windows Vista every now and then. No big deal. He'll be fine!

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Grandpa_Pixel

TuVictus

Nintendo: "we have to distance ourselves from the wii name. The new console will be an entirely new concept wholly unique from anything we've done before"

Also Nintendo: "we're going for the same audience that we said we'd go for with the wii u and also look at these controllers that you can hold in one hand aren't they so innovative"

Assuming the rumors are true of course

TuVictus

skywake

@BiasedSonyFan
For one thing I was only using Apple as an example. A lot of companies and in particular tech companies use this strategy now. It works because the internet allows it to work. Nintendo themselves have used it before with software releases. I only mentioned Apple because they are the company that is most known for it. It's not a particularly revolutionary idea in 2016 to delay an official product announcement until not long before launch. Media moves quicker these days.

The second point I'd make is that Nintendo aren't anywhere near as dead as you seem to be suggesting. If the NX fails to do well? They would be fine. And they could probably fail quite a few more times after the NX before they'd be in any sort of trouble. So even if this strategy was a risk (it isn't) you wouldn't have much of a point anyways. So you're wrong on two counts.

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Samurai_Goroh

@skywake If the NX fails, will Nintendo file for bankrupcy? Not at all. But, what most people including myself feel is that another failure after the Wii U debacle, will effectively tarnish their reputation as a console maker to the point of no return. If the NX fails, I doubt there will be another Nintendo console ever again. Their cash reserves might allow for half a dozen more "Wii Us", their brand's public perception, does not allow such leeway.
So everything is riding high stakes on this one. Make it count, Nintendo.

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Samurai_Goroh

Therad

BiasedSonyFan wrote:

@skywake

The internet allows news to spread faster than it did in the '90s, but I think most gamers still need to know what the NX does before they buy an NX console. Given Nintendo's current reputation in the video game industry, it is especially important that gamers are convinced that the NX is a console worth paying their hard-earned $200 USD for. That's not a question of patience, but acknowledging that video game consoles don't sell themselves and require sufficient marketing and advertising, and changing a long-standing reputation about Nintendo consoles that will likely be difficult to change overnight. Consider that Sony, a company that is much more successful in the console market than Nintendo, might unveil the PS4 NEO before Nintendo unveils the NX. Sony announced the PS4 NEO earlier this year; Nintendo announced the NX early last year. Sony is also not planning on releasing the PS4 NEO in March 2017. Nintendo's biggest competitor isn't taking that advertising risk, and you think it's perfectly normal for a company that is struggling to sell consoles to use a short time window to unveil and launch the NX?

You also keep making comparisons to what other tech companies do when they sell their products. Those tech companies (Apple, Samsung, Google) are not only much larger and more financially successful companies than Nintendo, they are also in other electronics industries where there is alot of product turnover. They don't need to spend alot of time and money advertising products when they know those products will be replaced in a year.

Finally, Nintendo will likely still have their billions if the NX is a commercial flop, but investors will likely notice another commercial flop released by Nintendo. There will probably be increased pressure on Nintendo to abandon the home console industry if they fail to sell home consoles for another video game generation.

How about you tell us how you should have handled the NX reveal?

Therad

GrailUK

@BiasedSonyFan I disagree. I think Mr Iwata should have said something because in a year where the Wii U is receiving 1 first party title behind a back drop of Pokémon GO, Miitomo, Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem, are you honestly going to sit there and tell me the internet media and over weight Youtubers wouldn't think it has enough evidence to suggest Nintendo is 'doing a Konami' and going where the money is.
The internet media already thinks it knows what the NX is, when Nintendo is planning to release it and despite whatever Nintendo says, no matter how transparent they are being, it is over analysed, mis-construed and over hyped.
So, given the choice of spinning this quiet home console year for fans, and you are in charge of Nintendo would you;

a) Let fans think that you are shifting focus to mobile games.
b) Let fans know that you are concentrating on the next system.

  • The correct answer is b) you tell them about the NX being a thing. A lesser of two evils I guess.

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GrailUK

@BiasedSonyFan Hmmm...y'know what....You're right! Maybe. A year is just the period of time as opposed to a calendar year. If it was announced January, then Mario Tennis and Animal Crossing Amiibo Factory would have been considered genuine 'all hands on deck' Nintendo games because no one would have appreciated they were diverting resources. Imagine that scenario! No, actually, I admire a company being transparent (especially in this day and age) and I ain't gonna back track because forum folk can't handle it lol. Iwata shoulda said something and I'm glad he did.

[Edited by GrailUK]

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Grumblevolcano

@BiasedSonyFan Well E3 2015 would've been enough to get the "Nintendo is going mobile" rumour mill started as most of the focus was on already announced games as well as no news on Zelda.

Grumblevolcano

GrailUK

@Grumblevolcano Well in Mr Volcano.

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Octane

More rumours. That's a hefty handheld by the way. Screen size same as GamePad; who's going to carry that around in his/her pockets?

''2) NX prototype had a 6.2 inch 720p multi-touch touchscreen. Unknown if final product's screen size will be larger / smaller than prototype.''

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Octane

IceClimbers

@Octane Most phones have screen sizes around that size these days anyways lol. Just means it can't fit in skinny jeans.

Anyways, a 720p multitouch screen would be better than what I was expecting (a 540p single touch screen).

Another part of what she is saying is that the dock prototype has two USB slots. I think the final should have 4 if they plan on allowing two Gamecube adapters for 8 Player Smash.

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GrailUK

@Octane 6.2" screen would be the minimum to be able to play couch games comfortably (for me). I played Xenoblade Chronicles off screen on the Wii U pad and it was great. However, my eyes found the 3DS a tad stressful (and still not finished it on that system). With the higher definition, it should be quite sexy!

I never drive faster than I can see. Besides, it's all in the reflexes.

Switch FC: SW-0287-5760-4611

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