Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

It seems to be an argument about the Neo and Scorpio and what they mean for the future of consoles and the future of PS4 and XB1... Not sure why this argument is in the NX thread since the NX isn't really being talk about lol

Until the day that every game can be played on every system, that's a terrible argument. I'm not making excuses, you're making an issue of something that maybe should've happened a long time ago. Nobody is forced to buy anything. Multiplat games were always inferior on consoles anyway, so I don't see your point. It's not that everyone is suddenly power-hungry for more graphics; there's just another option. If you come in three years after the PS4 has been released, you now have the option to buy relatively new hardware instead of 3-year old hardware. People that already own a PS4 can upgrade if they wish and people that don't want to spend another $400 can just use their regular old PS4. It's not as if that would be any different without the NEO. There's just an extra option. Explain to me why that is such a terrible thing?

@DefHalan At least we're not talking about grass and ''fan service''

@Octane I don't know, I think I would rather have that lol _{just kidding}

New ideas for Nintendo

Nintendo NX 1, Nintendo NX 2, and Nintendo NX 3

A Light Board is a square shaped technical device that could be a peripheral and innovative potential invention that
can be Automatic setup or manual macrod (Like on Graal Online)

Light Board Small
Light Board Medium
Light Board Large
Games (Like Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort): Chess, Checkers, Monopoly, Stratego, Sorry, Trivial Pursuit, Boulderdash, Risk, Uno, and other boardgames...

Floor Light Pad
DDR setup
Twister setup

Simple controller
C joy stick on the left, select and start in the center vertically of rectangle and square, A button on the right, L on the top left, R on the top right, and on/off button
in the middle on top.

complex controller
C joystick on top left, a 5 button start with triangles bellow C joystick, A B X Y on the top right, another joystick on bellow 4 buttons on top right, L1, ZL, R1, ZR,
reset and on/off on the top in the center.

TV touch screens that work compatible with colored laser pointer controllers

Nintendo Phone controller that contacts anyone including buddies and family

Nintendo NX controller with 2 joysticks and L and R

Nintendo NX Console and handheld Games made of cards that have SD card circuits and trading card size (like Pokemon cards)

Mouse Pad

Mouse controller (example: works with Mario Paint)

home console and handheld controller could look like the Nintendo NX screen with attatchments (Fingers keyboard, left and right attatchments)

Ideas for Nintendo NX Games

Graal Online servers converted and upgraded into Nintendo and new games
Era, Zod, Maloria, Delteria, Unholy Nations, Zone, Kingdoms, and more

Counter Strike (purchasable, remakable for NX)

Tibia Online (Nintendo could remake)

Age of Empires

Roller Coaster Tycoon

Sim Ant sequels
ant eaters, anthills, logs, flags, multiplayer, command ants, ant ranks, ant breeds

Sim Bee (original)
Bee hives, honey, nectar from flowers, stinging with bees

Newgrounds animations as games
Stick Figures
Madness Combat
NES Mario Brothers Online
alot more

new Super Smash Bros
New characters: Goku, Vegeta, Frieza, Majin Buu, Fulgore, Glacius, Jago, Orchid, Sora, Banjo Kazooie, Crono, Frog, Marle, Magus
Cartoon animation for each video game

Mario games

Zelda games. The Legend of Zelda: Fairy Castles

Sensations Nintendo (wired and wireless)
Smell box sprays scent with condensation
tasty vials
surround sound speakers
touch screen
vibration in pants and shirts

@christo71186

a couple things. Age of Empires is a Microsoft IP, so it won't be on a Nintendo game console (in the past, they've released some things on Nintendo's portables since they didn't have anything they considered a competing device, but with Windows Phone out, those days are likely over).

As for the Smash characters, Goku (or any other DBZ character) will never make it, as they did not originate in video games (which is a requirement for consideration). Banjo & the Killer Instinct characters may have a small chance, but even that is unlikely as they are now owned by Microsoft.

I'm not even going to begin discussing that mishmash of hardware...

Some people seem to think having new hardware on the shelf ruins console gaming. Because somehow it shortens the life of the hardware by having something better on the shelf. Probably going to eventually be relevant to the NX given that I'm pretty sure Nintendo will go down the same route. Because console generations are a PITA for everyone involved.

Except that you can't go into the shops and buy old PC hardware. Walk into the shops and ask for the best GPU you can get for ~$100US and unless they're ripping you off you'll get something about as powerful as the PS4's GPU. If you had done that four years ago you would have got something somewhere between the Wii U and XBOne. This happens year-by-year. Hardware keeps improving at a gradual pace. Why shouldn't the hardware in consoles reflect this?

And this is going to change if you have better hardware on the shelf? Under the traditional console model early adopters get a full cycle of releases but they start with zero content. Late adopters get a whole bunch of content but don't get any new games. If they had a more PC-like model? Well PC gamers buy a piece of hardware and get a whole bunch of content AND they get new games they can run for a full cycle. Why shouldn't console gamers get the same?

@BiasedSonyFan as pointed out, Nintendo already does sell a cobsole upgrade for their 3DS line. They also had a console upgrade (in certain ways) with the Game Boy Adance to SP, and some even count the Game Boy Color as an upgrade option instead of its own portable console generation. But what is so bad about these optional console "upgrades?"

@BiasedSonyFan if you acknowledge Nintendo already does this, then what was the point of saying this

"Only because if the "console upgrades" sell well, then Nintendo could follow the industry norm by selling console upgrades of their own."

Also I want to remind you of the question I asked at the end of my last post

"But what is so bad about these optional console "upgrades?""

I'm just going to highlight the disconnect between these two responses and leave it at that

@RR529 This is Christo's buddy. Im new to this website. Does Nintendo admins look through these forums? Does anyone know and approve of the ideas that Christo posted? (This account) Would a good idea to be to draw the ideas that were recent so people can see what I was typing about besides the 3rd party videogames. Thank you for the info you provided though about the games.

@BiasedSonyFan "Handhelds" are consoles too, that is why it was confusing when you don't specify home or portable consoles.

Sounds like you have less of a problem with the Neo and Scorpio and more of a problem with PS4 and XB1.

@christo71186 Hiya. It's probably not the right thread for this so I will try to relate it to the NX . I really like the light board idea (if it is what I think it is). If Nintendo can have a device that can detect where objects are then I think it would be a good way of moving toys to life forward. For me personally, it should be called bits of plastic to unlock content. There is not much 'toy' to them. However, if they had some physical playability to them (y'know, like a toy) then I would think more of this concept. Your light board idea could enable table top wargaming whilst having a command screen or something on the TV. Table top Advance Wars where the screen can help you with dice modifiers, AR battlefield conditions and tactics or objectives. Toys to life could be utterly awesome and maybe Nintendo are going to progress it's concept with the NX (there told ya). Collect figures and build your army. The screen could enable online multiplayer keeping track of players figures and toys. It could be genius!

@BiasedSonyFan Nintendo can do whatever they want. Sony can do whatever they want. Microsoft can do whatever they want. Sony and Microsoft generally follow the same paths with a lot of things, giving players an optional upgrade is one of those paths. I don't see what is wrong with what Sony and Microsoft are doing, I actually like that they are heading away from the type of console generations we generally have and are putting such an emphasis into backwards compatibility (in a way it is backwards compatibility)

@DefHalan They all can do whatever they want, but unlike Sony and Microsoft whom know that their legions of followers will more likely than not, upgrade pretty quickly, Nintendo doesn't have the luxury of knowing it has a fan base from one console to the next - partly their own fault.

The problem Nintendo faces will be that as the competition moves forward with ever more powerful hardware, Nintendo seems to be sticking with similar specs. And that's going to be I think the hardest part of selling it in today's world. And price will only go so far especially as Xbox One (in the UK at least) is just above £200.

So whatever Nintendo does do, it better be instantly understandable to the anyone and everyone with little explanation.

@FragRed I don't think Sony and Microsoft fans are any more or less "sheep" than Nintendo fans. Each company has their fans that will jump at any and all of their products, I think Sony and Microsoft do a good job at keeping each other in check. Xbox lost a lot of people with the Xbox One announcements. Sony played it much safer than they did the previous generation. This gave us a flipped scenario than last gen.

Nintendo has a lot to prove since they haven't had much hype in the home console market since 2010 kinda. In my opinion, Nintendo needs to stop acting like Sony and Microsoft don't affect it and that Nintendo can't affect them right back. They need to start competing, even if they don't play by the same rules. That is what made the Wii such a great system at first, but the later years destroyed all of that momentum... I wonder how different things would be if the Wii U was released in 2010???

@DefHalan Nintendo has a lot to think about going forward for sure. And yes, they do need to realise that they are competing against Sony and Microsoft.

If the Wii U launched 2010 it would have been much better received I'm sure but seeing that it was late in the generation I'm not sure how many millions more it would have sold. Still would have been a failure but more in line with Gamecube sales.

The only reason I mentioned PC graphics cards at all was because they get new ones every year. Consoles haven't, at least not traditionally. And they certainly didn't move from last gen to this gen gracefully. So how am I supposed to make the point any other way?

I'll spell it out again for you. I said that in 2012, the year before these consoles launched, you could have walked into a PC shop with $100US. Why $100US? Well because that's about the smallest amount you can spent on a new GPU without the thing being a paperweight. This is very much the entry level "gaming" GPU. Back in 2012 you would have got something between the Wii U and XBOne. Do the same thing today and you'd get something that lands about where the PS4 is.

And your response? Was to ask why I was telling you the PS4 was a fairly entry level spec in 2016. Then act surprised that the entry level spec in 2012 was between the Wii U and XBOne. Thus missing the point entirely. That PC gamers buying new gear can't go into the shops and buy out of date hardware. Console gamers can. This isn't a good thing.

I'll put it another way. Console gaming has always been a fight between two forces. On the one hand they want to make it easy for developers by having the same hardware for every end user. Same everything. On the other hand there's the continual march of technology. Which is why we get console generations, the generation ends when they hit that tipping point.

This made sense when consoles were islands where all the first party exclusives lived. But these days? Most things are multi-platform. Developers are building for different specs anyways. So why not throw out the idea of console generations entirely? Have a spec upgrade every year or so. That way they're not selling consumers old tech anymore and there are no more of those drastic transition periods.

@skywake Oh my God you must be a casual if you don't need to upgrade immediately. (hehehe )

The games I buy for ios have backwards compatibility of 4 to 7 years. I imagine this will happen with the nx we buy soon.

@christo71186 NintendoLife isn't affiliated with Nintendo in any way. If you're posting ideas here in the hope of Nintendo reading them, then you're out of luck unfortunately. Everything you post on these forums is just for speculation and fun.