Topic: No backup on saves? That’s insane.

Absolutely outside of sanity.

While cloud saves are good it still doesn't solve the issue completely, because not everyone is going to pay Nintendo just to have backup game saves. They still need to either let you make backup saves on sd or usb also like ps4 does.

@Ryzaerian @mowerdude Physical backups onto a card is unlikely for the foreseeable future as Nintendo are well aware of what happened with the PSP which lost huge amounts of money through game saves & eventually games being cloned through the SD Card slot. When Sony then used their own brand storage & artificially inflated the price to dissuade hackers for the Vita... it KILLED the Vita. The problem is, no matter how well you encrypt a file, it's just a matter of time until someone breaks the encryption.

A quick Google confirms that PS4 game saves are available to buy on the internet... I wonder why Sony is okay with downloadable saves? Maybe it's because Sony already has a large enough playerbase that any loss in revenue etc. is pretty small compared to income, or because most of their games are still physical & harder to hack into.

Either way, Nintendo NEED to add cloud storage ASAP - I think they're likely waiting for the big online update later in the year so they can cover the cost of those millions of large file uploads on a hourly basis. But until then, we're all stuck worrying our brothers/parents/toilets will break our consoles & lose our saves. :/

@DanteSolablood, Cloud is the worst just look at how cloud security have been breached over and over and you want us to give cloud our data-hella freeze over first. Were not talking about cloning games this is about the saved data and DLC and updates to migrate over to the microsd card to save so when you buy or replace your NS all your data is saved. As of now both NS have to be present to do the swap IR or cable or however it does it. And that can be painless or just a pain in the a55 if you have alot of data to move. As for eShop games that data is on Nintendo and you can redownload that game already so the concern for Cloning isn't the problem here. I have many hours invested in multiples games saved data aka BoTW and loosing all that isn't fun if that ever happens. That is what the concerns are of the Gamers on here-So let's stick to the question at hand. If you want thread on Cloning do that separately shall we.

@SwitchForce Cloning wasn't the main point of my post (actually, it was a two word mention), I specifically talked about save files being copied & shared/sold online... in fact the entire second & third paragraph were entirely dedicated to the subject. Also, while I appreciate you have hundreds of hours of gameplay on your Switch... I'm on a Nintendo Switch thread, so I'd likely be (and am) the same situation.

As for the actual relevant points you raised, cloud storage is in no way the ideal solution - I'm not saying it's what I want, I'm saying it's more likely from a business point of view. I 100% agree that I'd rather put my saves onto the MicroSD card as it would be FAR easier for me... but I thought it relevant to mention that it may not be convenient for Nintendo.

So let's stick to the question at hand. If you want a thread on Strawman arguments do that separately shall we?

Edit: not actually annoyed, just thought it'd be fun if I used similar language to the post I'm replying to.

Yeah only a Troll would respond like that...Read the OP again ....

Nintendo couldn't care less about someone hacking into their servers and stealing game saves. Frankly I don't care if someone stole my game save either. My game save has no value to anyone other than myself. Someone breaching Nintendo's servers is only going to be interested taking payment information if they take anything.

The concern for Nintendo with saves is what else you can do when given full access to your saves. It only takes one dodgy bit of code in one game for the whole system to be open to full blown piracy. Nintendo wants to stop that from happening or at the very least delay it for as long as possible. Making it physically impossible for me to put anything on the SD card that Nintendo is unable to verify is legit? That's 99% of easy attack vectors for the console dead.

Cloud saves don't require giving us as consumers physical access to our saves. They can implement it without ever giving us the ability to replace our save with one downloaded from the internet. That makes it, from Nintendo's perspective, orders of magnitude more secure. Letting you backup to a micro-SD card is just asking for trouble.

@DanteSolablood Why would Sony mind if people can buy saves? If that's what people want then it's a positive feature, right?

But what if someone looks at all my cringy dating sim save files? 😨

@SwitchForce I find it interesting you attack the validity of my post about MicroSD card saves rather than the content while accusing me of trolling. However, on the subject of the OP it states that it's devastating to lose save files (for which I agree) & then...

So, the OP specifically mentions not being able to comprehend why Nintendo wouldn't have implemented MicroSD card saves, the very subject I was discussing. While I understand you might not like the content of my posts, name calling & attempts to discredit them is not a polite way to further a topic. There is no battle to be won or lost between us, I had an opinion & you didn't like it, please let any misguided hostility end there.

@chardir I would actually say @skywake quite eloquently stole my thunder in post #28, but to reiterate -
not allowing physical access to the save files prevents a lot of security issues as people can alter the saves & inject the new code into the game/console. There are other possible things like people skipping through games using purchased saves quickly in order to get refunds... but as far as I'm aware Nintendo doesn't have a time limit like some platforms.

signed up here because over the past few days i was considering a switch purchase. i'm primarily a PC gamer so i basically 100000% agree with the original post. it really is mind blowing that there's no save backup method...

i hate to say it but Japan seems to care very little for the internet / modern era of tech in some ways. they really seem to only care about the people inside of Japan. seriously, go look up websites like sega's corporate. it looks like geocities from the 90's and many others are the same! it's very strange. really feels like blatant disregard for what is a rational entry level console.

i may buy one, but i'd never buy disgaea 5 for example. man, putting in 100+ hours and then the stupid console breaks or gets dropped etc etc? would be seriously bummed.. it's really wild that people haven't even found a way to open the stupid hardware up and remove a chip. lol. since some part has an id code or whatever, you can't even physically de-solder it and pop another on there. this is CRAZY! it's just so poorly thought out in so many aspects. the voice chat is kind of hilarious implementation wise too.

dunno, i'm bored and have essentially half of the money in a gift card. might grab one but likely will sell it after playing through mario and a few other games.

so very astonishing that a large company is willingly out of touch. they could be doing so much better if they added features people have come to expect.

le sigh. crosses fingers