My problem with this is that switch games are EXPENSIVE! For some cheep shovelware it most of the time costs 20 BUCKS! Sometimes when I just want to play something new I can't because everything is so expensive and I don't want to spend 20 dollars on something I am only playing to kill an afternoon. And with the F2P options on switch, there so few and far between that I get excited and download it instantly when I see a new F2P game on switch. I don't care how bad it is, I JUST WANT SOMETHING TO KILL MY AFTERNOON! And that's my problem with the switch in general. Some games are great at that, and are so cheep, like Downwell, but those games are so few and far between I can hardly consider them a plus of the switch Eshop.
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Especially on messageboards, where in every dark corner there are “opiniated” posters, you’ll see these types finding each other and form a sizable vocal group echoing their sentiments. Every now and then you’ll see those threads or posts popping up and it always seems to be a lot of people responding, but it’s always the same people. Keep an eye out
In reality the Switch is performing well and millions of people are finding more than just Nintendo games to play. The majority of those people won’t give a flying fudge if the “superior” version is available elsewhere. They buy it on Switch and are happy about it.
If people want the best version of a game, there’s nothing wrong with that or want a specific game to cater to their needs. But the vocal minority have little grip and understanding of how the majority of people play games. Those types of people are either very oblivious or two out for a fanboy tussle.
Everyone does know YT exists just go there and watch the gameplay and you can get a idea of is that the game you want to buy eShop or Physical. Not doing your homework isn't anyone fault but the person whom should do it themselves. And one does know 1st party release wasn't why the Switch was a hit because they got indie and KS and various parties making games for it that it was the goto platform for innovations and portable Gaming. This is what grippers forget they cherry pick to make their arguments sounds plausible but fail to look at the Bigger picture of Switch success.
There's this thing called Wikipedia that has a list of games for every console. So here's a graph showing that by Nintendo console generation. Note I put GameBoy in both the SNES and N64 columns. In any case, as you can pretty clearly see, the Switch is objectively not short on content. Even when compared with portable and non-portable consoles combined from previous Nintendo generations
"oh but the shovelware". I mean sure. But when you have double the amount of content overall it's a bit of a stretch to argue that there's LESS quality content overall. Especially when we're not double-counting games released on both platforms like we did in previous eras. Think about it, how would that make sense? I mean maybe there's a higher proportion of shovelware, you could argue that point, but a console that attracts "shovelware" would also attract quality content.
I'd probably amend the original argument in this thread. I don't think it's just people who have been "Nintendo only" gamers who couldn't possibly make the "there's nothing to play" argument. If we want to be specific, I don't think you can make that argument unless the Switch is your first Nintendo console. But I think even that's being generous to the people making this argument.
I wouldn't say there's nothing to play though I would say Nintendo hasn't captured the energy of Switch year 1 since then. It's fine for me as I like playing all these old ports and want it to get to the point where if my Wii U Gamepad or Wii U dies (don't forget the Wii U is a brick without the Gamepad), nothing of value is lost but for someone who would want to play Switch primarily for new games a lot of the past 3 years will have been rough for them.
Exactly. I just have not been very excited about much since Luigi’s Mansion. I got ACNH and was sorta excited about it. But I didn’t play it much till this year. I am pretty fired up about golf. There just hasn’t been much of interest for me lately as far as Nintendo franchises. But there’s plenty to do on the system with indies and third party developers
Yeah, it's just a fact that the Switch has more games than any prior Nintendo system, and it's on target to surpass the next two combined (Wii + DS) this year.
Unfortunately, you can't win the quality vs quantity argument with data though and there'll always be those people with a handful of games for a past system that they absolutely loved where there's just no modern equivalent of them.
Yeah, I can't imagine struggling for games to play on Switch if that's your only modern platform. I myself currently only game on Switch and there's more than plenty to play. I even had a PS3 but never got around to playing games like the Borderlands games, Bioshock Infinite or Dragon's Dogma, so they're new to me on Switch.
I feel like if any Switch only gamer has this 'issue' it's less about the Switch's library and more about the person limiting themselves on what games they play.
There is more than enough to play on the Switch, but on March 3, 2017 I bought a Switch due to what Nintendo had planned. Nintendo in 2017 was on fire for the Switch and 3DS, and they haven't been anywhere close to that kind of production since. I usually expect Nintendo to lead the way for their system and I haven't felt like they've really been there in 2018, 2019, 2020 and so far in 2021. I think more so than before on a Nintendo system, the third parties and especially the indies are keeping the interest going with the steady flow of quality game releases.
Usually I turn to non-Nintendo games when I've gotten my fill of Nintendo's games, which is what happened for me with the Nintendo DS and 3DS, but last year I decided to stop waiting on Nintendo and got a handful of indie titles: Celeste, Hades, Bug Fables and A Short Hike. Those four games have plenty of content for me to enjoy, and I'm sure I'll dive more into the indie game library after those experiences. I still want to see another big year from Nintendo, but if that doesn't happen, the Switch will still see plenty of content come its way.
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I don't think any Nintendo console has ever actually pleased their entire fanbase. lol Over the last few weeks on this forum I've seen posts go like the below;
"I wish Nintendo would revive their old IP" Person A
"What about Famicom Detective Club and Pokemon Snap which just came out?" Person 1
"I meant F-Zero!!!" Person A
"Why are people complaining about ports, I can't wait to play Miitopia" Person A
"Why is Mittopia so expensive, it's just a port" The same Person A hours later
"Now that this game is out there's another drought!" Person A
"It's only 4 weeks til the next game is out though" Person 1
"I want more quirky games like the Wii had" Person A
"What about Mario Kart Live, Labo or Ring Fit Adventure?" Person 1
"I haven't tried them so they don't count" Person A
"I want new IP from Nintendo" Person A
"What about Arms, Astral Chain or Snipperclips?" Person 1
"The Arms IP is still sitting!" Person A
Out of my own curiosity I looked up how many Nintendo published retail and completely new (even though I'd argue 3D World offers up enough new content to be worth a double dip or Zelda BOTW but let's leave them) Switch games which scored 9 or 10/10 on Nintendo Life since they are likely to be more in tune with the average Ninty gamer than say IGN. So there's 13 top and new Nintendo Switch games and over the lifespan of the Switch it works out a game about every 3/4 months or 16 weeks and ignores games like Pokemon SwSh, Paper Mario, Kirby etc. Now all Ninty releases (completely new so no BOTW or 3D All Stars) which works out a game every 6 weeks. It doesn't seem that bad to me.
Yeah, it's just a fact that the Switch has more games than any prior Nintendo system, and it's on target to surpass the next two combined (Wii + DS) this year.
Unfortunately, you can't win the quality vs quantity argument with data though and there'll always be those people with a handful of games for a past system that they absolutely loved where there's just no modern equivalent of them.
This is true. I mean I could point to metacritic and do the same with "games with a score above 90%" and I'd have something like this:
Switch: 20
Wii U: 8
3DS: 6
Wii: 14
DS: 7
But that just shifts the argument to which games "should count" and the merits of judging content on metacritic rating. And if you go down that path someone will inevitably start saying that Bayonetta 2 on Switch "doesn't count" as a 90+ game on Switch because it released on the Wii U first. And if that doesn't count then maybe Breath of the Wild doesn't count, it was really a Wii U game at the start right? Does Hades count? It's multi-platform, you don't have to buy it on Switch. I mean Ori doesn't count for the same reason right? And Smash Bros? It's basically just the Wii U game again with more characters and.....
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