A particular useful sign is when multiple reviewers, both broadly positive and negative, all agree on the same properties and descriptions. Even for matters of creative judgement: if both positive and negative reviews describe a game as "stronger act 1 and 3, weak and slow act 2", that probably means they are actually describing the game as it exists.
@Tasuki you are renting a license. I'm sorry I was rude to you, I thought you were being a troll but it seems like you don't understand how this works. When you buy a digital game, from Steam or the eshop you are buying permission to access a license for that game. This license can be revoked, that license in theory could be modified without your consent or the game itself could get pulled entirely from the shop or your library. The shop could be shut down someday, and let's say you have to get a new Switch, that SD card will not work in the new switch without being reformatted and you would not be able to redownload your games because the shop is gone. In California in the US when you purchase from a digital storefront you get a prompt stating that you are not "purchasing" or "buying" a game. https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/26/24254922/california-digita...
@Dang_69 There are technical legalities and there is practical reality. In practical reality, that digital version could easily last past when most of your cartridges are corrupt from old age.
Also, the article you referenced says 'The new law won’t apply to stores that offer “permanent offline” downloads'. Which includes almost all Steam and Switch games.
@FishyS permanent offline refers to something like the GOG store. Like you can download it to a drive and just have the game. They didn't mean like a single player game that can be played offline. They mean a game that could be downloaded permanently and stored offline without the aid if an ecosystem. I hate copying and pasting Google AI stuff but it gave a good summary, "GOG provides DRM-free installers, allowing you to download your purchased games as many times as you want without limits. You can backup these offline installers to your own storage, ensuring you can play them even if the service closes." That's what the caveat in the law was referring to
Reality: You own licenses to download your digital games. You don’t own the games themselves. But there is no foreseeable world as of this moment where a company decides to take away those licenses. It would be beyond dumb.
Reality: You do own your physical games and can do whatever you want with them, including make a few bucks by selling them. But anything physical has the potential to be lost, broken, or stolen. It’s how the world turns.
Just decide what works best for you in your life. Don’t base your decisions on anything other than what works for you and what floats your boat.
@Dang_69 Perhaps I misinterpreted the article, but Switch has permanent offline in the literal sense; you never have to go online and can play your downloaded games forever.
As a fun side note, you don't 100% legally own the money you put into a bank account. You are an unsecured creditor for that much money but there are situations where you are not guaranteed to get the money back. Not the same situation as the perpetual licenses you get on Steam, but another example that very little is truly 100% owned in the strictest legal sense in the modern world. Governments generally retain the right to remove people from land for example which means people neither truly own the land nor the house on top of it.
Regardless, rather than get stressed about it, I'll just enjoy the digital games which I have currently and which will likely never be taken from me.
It's just a law of nature on these forums that there must exist at least one thread at any given point where people complain and argue about vaguely Switch 2 related topics even when they only loosely relate to the thread title. The 'is Switch 2 worth it' thread has been a bit less popular ever since we confirmed that Switch 2 is still selling well so people somehow jumped on this one.
Maybe I will successfully kill this thread by double posting 🤔
This is deep.
Reality is you own nothing.
You come to this world with nothing and you leave this world with nothing.
My house was my home until I sold it for another. My car I owned for 5 years till I bought another.
My children who were with me will have children and I’ll be a grandfather.
We will all go one day or another.
We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.
@1UP_MARIO You can say that about personal info. Despite fighting for privacy laws & whatnot...who's to say we don't own our own private & personal info. Heck...even if you own a home...you still have to pay property taxes. I wouldn't call that owning your home outright...if it was...then we'd stop paying property taxes by now.
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I ACCEPT NO DEBIT CARDS!
DO YOU HEAR ME!?!
I've been lurking this thread, so here's my two cents.
Firstly, I buy both physical and digital games, both have their advantages and disadvantages. For example, if there's a game series I really absolutely love, I'd like to get a physical copy if possible. Also, physical has the advantage of having the game on the cartridge and disc (save for a few exceptions), which saves on system memory for games I might want to get digitally. Not to mention the disadvantage of digital is having to uninstall games just to make space for a new one. I don't have this problem on my Wii U (2 TB hard drive), but I do have this problem on Switch until I can get a bigger SD card.
I get why people don't like digital, when you buy digital, you have nothing tangible. Yes, you can always re-download your game, but it is important to remember Nintendo is not going to offer this forever. Right from their Wii support page, they even say that re-downloading will be discontinued in the future (personal note, I thought it was discontinued until someone pointed it out to me a few years ago). With that in mind, if you don't have all your games already downloaded, then you will lose them in the future. Which is the biggest worry people have with digital games. You paid money for the game, and you would like to keep it forever. Plain and simple.
However, I do feel if people were able to backup their purchases, I think that might end the worry. I always say this when I talk PC games, I buy a lot of them DRM-free from GOG. Yes, I use Steam too, but I like GOG more because after I download the game, I can back it up and keep it forever. I can even reinstall these games without Internet or logging into my GOG account. The thing with the Switch is, I don't think you can have a backup of your games, unless you buy two SD cards and download your game to both of them, and keep one SD card in a safe spot.
Interesting note on backup, I like how Nintendo did it on the Wii. Right now I have all my digital Wii games backed up to an SD card. The only catch is that the downloads can be used on their original system and can't be transferred to a new system, this is Nintendo's DRM.
I think more might be ok with digital if they could backup their games and keep them forever. At least that's to my understanding to why people like physical, it ensures them they can keep playing a game they like, rather than risk losing games should Nintendo shut down the servers for good, and they don't have the game already downloaded to their system or SD card (or hard drive in the case of the Wii U).
Right from their Wii support page, they even say that re-downloading will be discontinued in the future (personal note, I thought it was discontinued until someone pointed it out to me a few years ago).
It's worth noting that that message has been there for many years and nothing has changed yet. It's also worth noting that the more recent combined Nintendo account system is more like a Steam setup nowadays so it's not obvious this one will ever need to go away. Wii may only allow redownloads for between 20 and 30 years total, but Switch could easily last even longer.
But perhaps eventually redownload of Switch games will be shut down. Then ... those digital games will have the same disadvantages that physical games have — e.g. they will become reliant on old hardware surviving.
which saves on system memory for games I might want to get digitally. Not to mention the disadvantage of digital is having to uninstall games just to make space for a new one. I don't have this problem on my Wii U (2 TB hard drive), but I do have this problem on Switch until I can get a bigger SD card.
This is a problem currently but often hasn't been. I have several hundred Switch 1 games but there was a while where you could get a 1 TB sd card for 50 bucks. I have one which fits allllmost all of my many games. Granted, games were smaller back then. 2 TB would have easily fit everything and if AI (and tariffs etc) hadn't messed up the normal price drops, we would have been seeing cheap 2 TB cards soon as well.
Switch 2 however causes far more of a problem with the larger games, the new more expensive express cards, and the crazy market prices right now. If the prices eventually go back to normal I fully expect there to be cheap 2TB (or possibly even 4 TB or higher) express cards by the end of the Switch 2 generation and decades before we have to worry about redownload issues.
@FishyS Perhaps, but it is something to keep in mind. There is a chance that re-downloading may not be a thing forever. I just went there because that's what's officially said on a Nintendo website.
I was speaking from my own personal experience. I only have a 256 GB SD card in my Switch, so I have to uninstall digital games to put in a new one. It could still be a scenario no matter the card size. I'm thankful most of my physical Switch games, save for Doom, let me save on memory that could be used for download only games or games I buy on sale.
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I will say for this gen so far: It is nice being physical and not having to pay a couple hundred bucks more for an express sd card.
The other thing with the hardware itself eventually failing regardless of what type of games you buy: Anybody actually know from a technical standpoint if the more modern hardware is easier to upkeep and fix than the older stuff? My GameBoy, NES, SNES are still going strong, and I've even been able to do simple repairs on some of them with pretty basic parts. I would think maybe the modern consoles will be a nightmare to fix like that?
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