Avatar should win in the technical and effects categories it has nominations in but if Cameron/Avatar wins anything else (Best Picture, Best Director) the Academy board of judges need to jump off a bridge. Avatar was epic to look at but the story was just plain pedestrian.
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Kiss all you want, but I'm going to have to disagree to an extent. The story in Avatar is just like every cowboy and indians story but in space. But the Hurt Locker is like every war movie ever but in Iraq. Every story is a rip off of some other story, to some extent (although I'm trying to think of something that Up is ripping off and I can't think of a darn thing). The stories of both Avatar and The Hurt Locker are rather pedestrian, but they're both presented in an incredible new way--hence all the buzz.
Which is why I stand by feeling that if it must come down to either Avatar or The Hurt Locker, I think it should go to Avatar. Because in 10 years, is anybody going to remember The Hurt Locker? Nope. As good as it is, it's just a blip. If the prize is truely up for grabs, though, give it to Up. They'd be making Oscar history by giving best picture to an animated film. Then they could give best director to James Cameron's ex wife who directed the Hurt Locker and make history again by giving it to a woman. Better yet, knock out the Blind Side and give best picture to Where the Wild Things Are, to whom the prize really belongs.
If they wanted to really mess with people, nominate The Dark Knight for best picture and give it to that to make up for last year.
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Avatar should win in the technical and effects categories it has nominations in but if Cameron/Avatar wins anything else (Best Picture, Best Director) the Academy board of judges need to jump off a bridge. Avatar was epic to look at but the story was just plain pedestrian.
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I think it should go to Avatar. Because in 10 years, is anybody going to remember The Hurt Locker? Nope. As good as it is, it's just a blip. If the prize is truely up for grabs, though, give it to Up. They'd be making Oscar history by giving best picture to an animated film.
Firstly, Avatar, will be remembered, only because of the fact that some nerd got paid about 3 billions dollars to create something on his computer. Frankly, I don't think that THAT is something to remember, neither, how good a movie is, judged by its budget.
On you Up statement, there is a reason why animated films will never win and never should win best picture. It has its own category, in which, only 3 films are nominated. The only reason UP is nominated, is because of the stupid academy thinking that it would be fine and dandy to have 10 films for best picture. Im sorry, but that's stupid.
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Avatar should win in the technical and effects categories it has nominations in but if Cameron/Avatar wins anything else (Best Picture, Best Director) the Academy board of judges need to jump off a bridge. Avatar was epic to look at but the story was just plain pedestrian.
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I think it should go to Avatar. Because in 10 years, is anybody going to remember The Hurt Locker? Nope. As good as it is, it's just a blip. If the prize is truely up for grabs, though, give it to Up. They'd be making Oscar history by giving best picture to an animated film.
Firstly, Avatar, will be remembered, only because of the fact that some nerd got paid about 3 billions dollars to create something on his computer. Frankly, I don't think that THAT is something to remember, neither, how good a movie is, judged by its budget.
On you Up statement, there is a reason why animated films will never win and never should win best picture. It has its own category, in which, only 3 films are nominated. The only reason UP is nominated, is because of the stupid academy thinking that it would be fine and dandy to have 10 films for best picture. Im sorry, but that's stupid.
Up was the best movie the year critically, and saying the animated films belong only in Best Animated Film is mighty discriminating.
Avatar should win in the technical and effects categories it has nominations in but if Cameron/Avatar wins anything else (Best Picture, Best Director) the Academy board of judges need to jump off a bridge. Avatar was epic to look at but the story was just plain pedestrian.
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I think it should go to Avatar. Because in 10 years, is anybody going to remember The Hurt Locker? Nope. As good as it is, it's just a blip. If the prize is truely up for grabs, though, give it to Up. They'd be making Oscar history by giving best picture to an animated film.
Firstly, Avatar, will be remembered, only because of the fact that some nerd got paid about 3 billions dollars to create something on his computer. Frankly, I don't think that THAT is something to remember, neither, how good a movie is, judged by its budget.
On you Up statement, there is a reason why animated films will never win and never should win best picture. It has its own category, in which, only 3 films are nominated. The only reason UP is nominated, is because of the stupid academy thinking that it would be fine and dandy to have 10 films for best picture. Im sorry, but that's stupid.
Up was the best movie the year critically, and saying the animated films belong only in Best Animated Film is mighty discriminating.
Yeah, what you're saying is really disturbing to me. You think just because something's animated means it can't be taken as seriously as a live action film. You sir, have just lost all credibility (not that you had any to begin with) in this thread. Up is the most critically acclaimed film of the year, and it was the only film that actually made me cry this year (if that means anything). Time Magazine named Wall-E as the best film of the decade. Princess and the Frog was their best movie of the year. Up was nominated for best picture because it was one of the best pictures of the year--not because the acadamy is stupid. If you're not secure enough in your masculinity to appreciate Pixar's work just because it's colorful and animated, then I feel sorry for you.
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But the Hurt Locker is like every war movie ever but in Iraq.
Which is why I stand by feeling that if it must come down to either Avatar or The Hurt Locker, I think it should go to Avatar. Because in 10 years, is anybody going to remember The Hurt Locker? Nope. As good as it is, it's just a blip.
"Every war movie ever but in Iraq"? No offense but what war films is it so much akin to? Because saying that is like saying, "'Let the Right One In' is like every other vampire movie" or "'Pan's Labyrinth' is like every other foreign film." The Academy doesn't give out Best Picture to the movie that will be remembered the longest, they give it to the best movie. If that were the case Slumdog Millionaire wouldn't have won. You're also calling The Hurt Locker's story pedestrian when it's nominated for Best Screenplay (along with UP which you seem to favor and a category in which Avatar couldn't even get a sniff of nomination support) so it's clearly not like "every war movie ever but in Iraq". Again no offense but I don't think you have even seen the movie if you can honestly equate The Hurt Locker's writing/story with Avatar's writing/story. That's approaching outlandish fanboy statement level. All this coming from me, who would like UP to win Best Picture because it was indeed a great film (but has no chance at winning). I just really hope the Academy doesn't fall into the hype-fest that the Hollywood Foreign Press was drawn into with Avatar and Cameron. I liked Avatar but it in no way deserves Best Picture or Best Director. Really, it was a nice show of technology and that's about it.
But the Hurt Locker is like every war movie ever but in Iraq.
Which is why I stand by feeling that if it must come down to either Avatar or The Hurt Locker, I think it should go to Avatar. Because in 10 years, is anybody going to remember The Hurt Locker? Nope. As good as it is, it's just a blip.
"Every war movie ever but in Iraq"? No offense but what war films is it so much akin to? Because saying that is like saying, "'Let the Right One In' is like every other vampire movie" or "'Pan's Labyrinth' is like every other foreign film." The Academy doesn't give out Best Picture to the movie that will be remembered the longest, they give it to the best movie. If that were the case Slumdog Millionaire wouldn't have won. You're also calling The Hurt Locker's story pedestrian when it's nominated for Best Screenplay (along with UP which you seem to favor and a category in which Avatar couldn't even get a sniff of nomination support) so it's clearly not like "every war movie ever but in Iraq". Again no offense but I don't think you have even seen the movie if you can honestly equate The Hurt Locker's writing/story with Avatar's writing/story. That's approaching outlandish fanboy statement level. All this coming from me, who would like UP to win Best Picture because it was indeed a great film (but has no chance at winning). I just really hope the Academy doesn't fall into the hype-fest that the Hollywood Foreign Press was drawn into with Avatar and Cameron. I liked Avatar but it in no way deserves Best Picture or Best Director. Really, it was a nice show of technology and that's about it.
That was admitedly a pretty ignorant comment. I haven't seen the movie, and I'm sure it is indeed a better film than Avatar. But everybody seems to be saying that it's either got to be the Hurt Locker or Avatar--and if that's the case, I'm with Avatar, because not only is it a great film but a revolutionary one that will be remembered for generations to come. I'm not an Avatar fanboy (I'll readily admit that it's got a so-so story and some questionable acting by some of the minor characters) but I do think it should win, because when you actually sit down and watch the movie you're so wrapped up in the immersive experience that none of that stuff seems to matter.
I think Best Picture should go to Up, and I will admit I haven't seen the hurt locker and that my line of reasoning doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I'm just saying, in 10 years people will be looking back at this acadamy awards and saying "Avatar should have won" (or Up).
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If you're not secure enough in your masculinity to appreciate Pixar's work just because it's colorful and animated, then I feel sorry for you.
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What, no comeback? I wasn't trying to be mean, I just can't stand it when people don't appreciate animation just because it doesn't feature real people.
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Did I ever say that I don't appreciate animation just because it doesn't feature real people.
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I'm just like, I just, I know, it's bad
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And can you go a little faster?!
Avatar should win in the technical and effects categories it has nominations in but if Cameron/Avatar wins anything else (Best Picture, Best Director) the Academy board of judges need to jump off a bridge. Avatar was epic to look at but the story was just plain pedestrian.
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Kiss all you want, but I'm going to have to disagree to an extent. The story in Avatar is just like every cowboy and indians story but in space. But the Hurt Locker is like every war movie ever but in Iraq. Every story is a rip off of some other story, to some extent (although I'm trying to think of something that Up is ripping off and I can't think of a darn thing). The stories of both Avatar and The Hurt Locker are rather pedestrian, but they're both presented in an incredible new way--hence all the buzz.
Which is why I stand by feeling that if it must come down to either Avatar or The Hurt Locker, I think it should go to Avatar. Because in 10 years, is anybody going to remember The Hurt Locker? Nope. As good as it is, it's just a blip. If the prize is truely up for grabs, though, give it to Up. They'd be making Oscar history by giving best picture to an animated film. Then they could give best director to James Cameron's ex wife who directed the Hurt Locker and make history again by giving it to a woman. Better yet, knock out the Blind Side and give best picture to Where the Wild Things Are, to whom the prize really belongs.
If they wanted to really mess with people, nominate The Dark Knight for best picture and give it to that to make up for last year.
Correction, Up is not the first animated movie nominate for best picture, Beauty and the Beast was. That is why the following year, best animated picture was added to the Oscar line up. But I agree, Up should win Edit: Beauty and the Beast was an even bigger accomplishment because it was nominated when there were only 5 slots for best picture
Avatar was an O.K movie that had a hell of a hook to lure people in. I doubt that will be enough to win. As for Up, I just can't see it winning best picture. It was charming, but it wasn't even Pixar's best.
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Did I ever say that I don't appreciate animation just because it doesn't feature real people.
No but you said that the acadamy should never let an animated movie be nominated for, let alone win best picture because they have its own category. To me, that sounds like someone who doesn't think animated films should be as taken as seriously as live-action films.
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I predict Hurt Locker (directed by James Cameron's ex-wife, BTW) for Best Picture and Avatar for Best Director due to political bias in the Academy. Avatar is a FOX production - no love there, but they can't snub it outright. Hurt Locker is a war flick, and what's better than keeping the anxiety of an unpopular war in the forefront of public discourse?
Lots-o-drama. I hope I'm wrong though. Love it or hate it, Avatar IS history.
Guess I was wrong, they could snub it outright - and they did. Here's a movie that grossed $2,564,689,342 worldwide, and it lost to a competitor which grossed $18,100,000. Either the Academy is seriously out of touch with the movie-going public, or the movie-going public is a bunch of idiots.
The Academy got it wrong. Everyone is calling Avatar 'the movie of 2010' regardless of whether they liked it. The Academy are just trying to be cool, but they failed. edit: seriously, how the frak can Titanic clean up then Avatar be ignored? makes no sense whatsoever. Traditionally I watch the Oscars but didn't this year, I'm sick and tired of glitz and glamour, we are a ridiculous species sometimes.
Oh and btw, making a movie about a war that hasn't even finished yet, I have always found extremely distateful.
Guess I was wrong, they could snub it outright - and they did. Here's a movie that grossed $2,564,689,342 worldwide, and it lost to a competitor which grossed $18,100,000. Either the Academy is seriously out of touch with the movie-going public, or the movie-going public is a bunch of idiots.
The Oscars are not about how much money a movie made. Even the nomination of Avatar for best movie was ridiculous. The technical Oscars they won is well deserved.
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