Topic: Does Nintendo need a new iconic character?

MM to me is a great example of doing something different. BUT all the bickering about little changes is exactly why I would love to see a NEW Nintendo IP prefferable 2D. Yes Layton is a Nintendo Product but its a puzzle game and I did enjoy it but its not the craving I have for a New Nintendo Adventure. Starfy is now quenching that thirst again. I remember importing it years back and playing it and was like OMG its so cool to be playing a completely Fresh 2D Nintendo game with no ties to anything but still has that pure Nintendo feel. Was a great moment and I just would love to see it happen again. Crash Bandicoot was the reason I went to Sony after Nintendo starting hashing remakes onto Gamecube because I wanted something fresh and years later Im still playing nothing but Nintendo and Sony. Mario, Zelda. Stafi, Kirby, Crash, Vectorman, Sonic, Yoshi and Ratchet are some of the best games to exist In my opinion. I though Mushroom Men was goin to be added to that list but sadly failed to impress me.

I don't see how you can compare a boat to a time limit. The time limit fundamentally changes how the game is played. No one would ever have imagined Zelda on a time limit.

A boat is different from a horse only in appearance. It serves the exact same purpose. Windwaker is just like any other Zelda game except in appearance. That's not to say it's bad -- I liked it -- but it's not that special.

(Also, saying there have "only been horses before WW" is highly misleading since there was only one game with a horse before, meaning at the time of WW release the boat and horse were on equal terms.)

@Adam.....I agree. That game was phenominal. I was loving it and then the time limit in the dungeons and I quit playing it. Such a dissapointment.

I didn't even get to the first dungeon. The town was annoying me. I'm not a fan of wandering around towns in most games, though I absolutely love the towns in the Mother series. The time limit in dungeons seems annoying, too, though.

Also, regarding your earlier post about Starfy (among other things):

Yes, you and I are speaking the same language. I'm thinking of picking up a DSi tomorrow for Shiren the Wanderer and the Art Style games, so Starfy is possible, too. But I worry that it's too easy. It looks only a step above Kirby for challenge, and that is a turn-off for me. I might have to give it a shot simply for the chance to try out a new Nintendo adventure -- it's been too long!

I also am very annoyed by the time limit in dungeons in MM. Adam, I wasn't really comparing the boat to the time limit, I was trying to be sarcastic but I guess you didn't pick it up(likely due to my serious posts prior). I also have yet to try Starfy, it reminds me of Kirby, which I like. So eventually I'll give it a go. And do you really consider WW a bad game? Also, the horse and boat were not on equal terms prior to TP. OoT AND MM both had the horse.

EDIT: One last rant. The boat and horse are not the same thing functionally. The boat allows you to get treasure off of the sea floor and gives you a cannon.

I understood you were being sarcastic, but it works better if you also have a point.

I made it pretty clear that I liked Wind Waker. I think I said it best here, actually:

I didn't think the horse was usable in Majora. I know he wasn't at the start of the game, but I didn't play much farther than that. Regardless, that's just two games if so, and it serves the exact same function. The boat was hardly revolutionary, different only visually, not in function.

Back to the original post...

I think a new mascot is exactly what Nintendo needs. Get rid of that fat, out of shape plumber. The new mascot should be the Wii Fit lady.

@Adam.... I recommend picking up Starfy. Its really a lot of fun and really long too. I dont remember when the last time was that I put so much time into a 2D game and not beaten it yet and I say that as a good thing. Ive prob put about 5 hours into it and I just got to the 6th world, granted Ive 100% completed every world to the point of where Im at and that takes a little time but is actually a lot of fun to do. Some of the chest are hidden in some pretty creative places and finding them can be a challenge so its fun, not to mention some have new minigames in them. So do pick it up.

Thanks NL that is a lot better wording for this thread

I just picked up a DSi today -- finally caved in -- with Shiren the Wanderer and Dragon Quest IV, two franchises I've never played and bought on a whim. Stafy will be my next purchase probably, but not until I'm done with these, which could be awhile! Thanks for the recommendation.

If Nintendo makes one last Zelda game i will cry i will literally CRY. that is my favorite video game series ever. but i suppose ther has to be an end. so the last one should be soooo long that no one will ever beat it. like 1000. tons of bosses.many towns and styuff.like 100 items. lots of heart pieces and 8 bottles instead of 4. that would bee sooo awesome. i would cry with tears of joy lol

If Nintendo made one last Zelda game, I wouldn't cry, but that's because I'm a man.

As it stands, Nintendo can get away with making Zelda games that don't really improve on the formula significantly, but if it were the last game in the series... just imagine how much extra effort they'd put into it. I'm sure it'd be great, and they'd likely carry over many of the good game play ideas into a new series. Seems like a win / win scenario to me.

I wish more video game series got closure, especially Nintendo's. I don't think they've ever intentionally made a final game in a series but rather just drop the series once it's not doing well and leave it to rot.

A new IP would be better, but Nintendo has so many old IPs that they need to revive. Let me think:
StarTropics
Mother (Earthbound)
Kid Icarus
F-Zero
Star Fox
Let me know if I forgot any.

You forgot Balloon Fight.

Most of those you listed aren't really in need of "revival" though, per se. Mother, F-Zero, and Star Fox all had new games last generation.

There was a new mother game last gen? I haven't played much of the mother series and am not a big fan but I never heard of one last gen. I definitely think they should revive Kid Icarus.

Mother 3 was on GBA, which was out during the same time frame as the Gamecube. Wasn't out in the West, obviously.

Star Tropics is a series that I would LOVE to see remade. That is a change I would like to see from Nintendo. NP dropped a bomb on Miyamoto by asking him if he would bring a sequel to Kid Icarus and he realld didn't say much but that there are a LOT of people asking for it. I would love to see some new NINTENDO IPs dropped onto DS/DSi. Star Tropics and Kid Icarus would be two excellent ones. I was noticing yesterday that the majority of my DS games are 3rd party titles. I want to see more Nintendo titles in there.

awww that sucks! lol why does it always say weirdadam? LOL

It's a secret to everyone.

I just put all of the franchises that haven't had an instalment this generation.