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JunkosBoobies

sub12 wrote:

Anybody born past 1990 is an idiot, and if you think the Wii was Nintendo's best generation, you should be taken out back behind the shed and shot.

Even if you weren't being serious, I guess according to this logic I'm not allowed to have an opinion without dying and I had a choice of when I was born...

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Electricmastro wrote:

Is there a unanimous agreement on NintendoLife that Nickelodeon had better programming in the 1990s than today?

Pretty much. I have to give the early 00s some credit for Fairly Odd Parents and Jimmy Newtron, but Rugrats, Hey Arnold, Wild Thornberries, and Doug is a damn tough lineup to beat.

What does Nick even have today?

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sub12

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sub12 wrote:

Anybody born past 1990 is an idiot, and if you think the Wii was Nintendo's best generation, you should be taken out back behind the shed and shot.

Even if you weren't being serious, I guess according to this logic I'm not allowed to have an opinion without dying and I had a choice of when I was born...

If you were born post 1990, your opinion does not matter, sorry bud.

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iKhan wrote:

Electricmastro wrote:

Is there a unanimous agreement on NintendoLife that Nickelodeon had better programming in the 1990s than today?

What does Nick even have today?

For one, their Nicktoons consist of SpongeBob SquarePants, The Fairly OddParents, Kung Fu Panda: Legends of Awesomeness, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Sanjay and Craig, Rabbids Invasion, and Breadwinners

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JunkosBoobies

sub12 wrote:

PKNoUsernameHere wrote:

sub12 wrote:

Anybody born past 1990 is an idiot, and if you think the Wii was Nintendo's best generation, you should be taken out back behind the shed and shot.

Even if you weren't being serious, I guess according to this logic I'm not allowed to have an opinion without dying and I had a choice of when I was born...

If you were born post 1990, your opinion does not matter, sorry bud.

I didn't realize NL was based in North Korea. My mistake.

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Joetherocker

Nah, they're jut different styles. Avatar the Last Airbender is probably the best cartoon of all time, but there's also stuff like My Gym Partner's a Monkey out there from about the same time. Likewise, you had Batman the Animated Series sitting next to Cow and Chicken in the 90s. You also had the Justice League show in the 00s, as far as comic book shows go.

As for now, Gravity Falls is really good, Over the Garden Wall was incredible, and Korra was fantastic. Nickelodeon is completely horrible now that Korra's done, though. If anything, Cartoon Network is the best chance we have at anything good, since they're willing to take some risks nowadays, it seems. (Judging that based on Over the Garden Wall, which had a different format than their other shows and was by an untested showrunner)

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Jacob717

Electricmastro wrote:

Is there a unanimous agreement on NintendoLife that Nickelodeon had better programming in the 1990s than today?

Nothing on Nickelodeon is good, and it's clear that Nick doesn't want anything good on their network seeing the way they treated Korra.

I think Nick is broken beyond repair. It needs to shut down, or get rid of everything and start from scratch.

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whodatninja

Joetherocker wrote:

Nah, they're jut different styles. Avatar the Last Airbender is probably the best cartoon of all time, but there's also stuff like My Gym Partner's a Monkey out there from about the same time. Likewise, you had Batman the Animated Series sitting next to Cow and Chicken in the 90s. You also had the Justice League show in the 00s, as far as comic book shows go.

As for now, Gravity Falls is really good, Over the Garden Wall was incredible, and Korra was fantastic. Nickelodeon is completely horrible now that Korra's done, though. If anything, Cartoon Network is the best chance we have at anything good, since they're willing to take some risks nowadays, it seems. (Judging that based on Over the Garden Wall, which had a different format than their other shows and was by an untested showrunner)

I like the way you think.

The 90s were a great time to be a kid, but with TV animations today like Avatar, Gravity Falls, Over The Garden Wall, Steven Universe and Adventure Time (when it was still good) American cartoons are better than ever!

Lots of good shows from the 00s as well such as Invader Zim and Billy & Mandy!

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Sergio151 wrote:

I'm scared to comment but this is my opinion.

I can't really say anything bad about Cartoon Network, seeing as how it is run by people who actually have IQ points.
Nickelodeon. Oh god where do I begin. Besides canceling Korra (a good show that got treated badly just because the creators were intelligent people) and airing sitcoms that make Disney Channel execs cry, all the channel has are the "duo" cartoons and life support, A.K.A. Spongebob
Disney Channel. To them it's "terrible teen sitcoms>great cartoons that are forced to move to Disney XD".

Nickelodeon is a sad shell of its former self. I hear TMNT is good (haven't seen it) but besides the everlasting Spongebob the channel is running on life support. And after how they treated Korra I don't think any SERIOUS creators will want to work there now.

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iKhan

Joetherocker wrote:

Nah, they're jut different styles. Avatar the Last Airbender is probably the best cartoon of all time, but there's also stuff like My Gym Partner's a Monkey out there from about the same time. Likewise, you had Batman the Animated Series sitting next to Cow and Chicken in the 90s. You also had the Justice League show in the 00s, as far as comic book shows go.

As for now, Gravity Falls is really good, Over the Garden Wall was incredible, and Korra was fantastic. Nickelodeon is completely horrible now that Korra's done, though. If anything, Cartoon Network is the best chance we have at anything good, since they're willing to take some risks nowadays, it seems. (Judging that based on Over the Garden Wall, which had a different format than their other shows and was by an untested showrunner)

I think one of the big stylistic shifts of later years is one to more character based narratives over narratives that more use characters as a vehicle for a good story. Really the only older shows that come to mind as character based are Gargoyles and Spider-Man TAS. Meanwhile, aside from Superman TAS, JL, and JLU, every action cartoon of the 00s and 10s is built around fleshing out and developing its characters, with many episodes built around it. The most obvious example is Teen Titans, which literally built each season's arcs around a Titan. And one isn't nessarily better than the other.

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TheMisterManGuy

WaveyChristmas wrote:

Haha. Yeah, based on what I've seen. Todays cartoons are mostly junk, with only a teeny tiny midget handful of half baked gems.....circa mid 80's to early 90's were the pinnacle imo for so many reasons. Simply put magical. These days?.....I don't want to live on this planet anymore. I hate the digital age, I hate flash-animation, I hate TV CG(Although TMNT 2012 isn't bad. one of the better examples based on how to do it right.), I hate the fact that todays cartoons rarely have any morals and are instead filled with over the top sarcastic BS phony characters, and the talent is also lacking big time. The younger artistic talent also sucks compared to the old.....

I know, I know. it's typically what YOU grew up with, but the 80's and early 90's truly magical times for so many reasons. cartoons, commercials, videogames, movies, toys, people in general seemed to be a lot happier, fashion, music, the list goes on.

This is kind f what I'm talking about, People look at the past through rose tinted glasses. There was just as much crap in the 80s and 90s as there is today.

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Its called nostalgia. People look at the cartoons they cherished as a young child with a greater fondness than the cartoons that show up today. Cartoons are a big part of a kids childhood back then and even today of course. That being said, the average kid isn't a tough critic so if he watches a show he or she will most likely think it is amazing due to the simple fact that he or she isn't a tough critic and he hasn't seen that much stuff under the sun. Frankly, I think the 90's had its ups and downs. Same thing with modern day cartoons. I for one think that the 90's are overrated and this come from modern day young adults' nostalgia. That is not to say though that there isn't a single 90's cartoon that is not good though.

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Television has always been a subjective medium.
Television will always be a subjective medium.
And on that note, no TV show can ever truly be better than another.

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I was a late 80s/early 90s kid myself, and I remember there being plenty of gems and plenty of trash in both decades. I will say that I do think the ratio of good:bad is skewed slightly more in favor of the bad by like 30/70 for the past decade, however, compared to the 50/50 it seemed for the 20 years previous.

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I won't say 90's/early 00's cartoons as a whole are better than today's offerings.... but I will say, I find there to be plenty of gems that I can revisit and confidently say match up to or trump today's best offerings.

There's a few that has aged so horribly though to the point where even rose tinted glasses can save it... X-men is one major example. I can't even watch it in earnest anymore, just to mock the voices and the animation.

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Dave24

WaveyChristmas wrote:

Except the crap back then is still superior to most of the crap now(The ratio these days is awful), because they reek of charm and at LEAST they're traditionally drawn unlike the lousy digital animation/CG/Flash age which looks overly shiny, plastic, artificial and boarder line lifeless crap that we have today, again for the most part. Anime has also taken a huge hit....

The artists these days for the most part are nowhere near as talented either. I prefer the art styles used heavily through out the 80's and early 90's and long before that. Those cartoons also had brilliant intro/themes, memorable music and so much atmosphere packed into them....

Don't get me started on how painful sitcoms are these days......Again, they don't hold a candle to 70's, 80's and early 90's sitcoms. there's no contest. I missed out on love boat, but I'm enjoying that one right now AND facts of life. they put me in such a great mood hehe.

Problem with sitcoms these days is that they try to emulate and fail all the old sitcoms, which feels rehash-y and worth eye roll, especially when they "steal" the jokes from one another. Also, 70s and 80s were different times, and yet people still try to emulate it and fail. Those times could only happen once - maybe in the future, it is possible, but it is so far away, we will be dead by then... and grandchildren probably too.
With animation, I sorta agree with you - nowadays, it's mostly computer generated, so they can be lazy, but 80s animation wasn't stuff of legends all the time too. I won't say most, because I probably didn't watch everything, but back then the best animated part of the cartoon was intro, and the cartoon wasn't nearly as good.
Charm is true though - they were naive, but in the end you had that good feeling. Nowadays some cartoons are downright a-holish with characters.

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TheMisterManGuy

WaveyChristmas wrote:

TheMisterManGuy wrote:

WaveyChristmas wrote:

Haha. Yeah, based on what I've seen. Todays cartoons are mostly junk, with only a teeny tiny midget handful of half baked gems.....circa mid 80's to early 90's were the pinnacle imo for so many reasons. Simply put magical. These days?.....I don't want to live on this planet anymore. I hate the digital age, I hate flash-animation, I hate TV CG(Although TMNT 2012 isn't bad. one of the better examples based on how to do it right.), I hate the fact that todays cartoons rarely have any morals and are instead filled with over the top sarcastic BS phony characters, and the talent is also lacking big time. The younger artistic talent also sucks compared to the old.....

I know, I know. it's typically what YOU grew up with, but the 80's and early 90's truly magical times for so many reasons. cartoons, commercials, videogames, movies, toys, people in general seemed to be a lot happier, fashion, music, the list goes on.

This is kind f what I'm talking about, People look at the past through rose tinted glasses. There was just as much crap in the 80s and 90s as there is today.

Except the crap back then is still superior to most of the crap now(The ratio these days is awful), because they reek of charm and at LEAST they're traditionally drawn unlike the lousy digital animation/CG/Flash age which looks overly shiny, plastic, artificial and boarder line lifeless crap that we have today, again for the most part. Anime has also taken a huge hit....

The artists these days for the most part are nowhere near as talented either. I prefer the art styles used heavily through out the 80's and early 90's and long before that. Those cartoons also had brilliant intro/themes, memorable music and so much atmosphere packed into them....

Don't get me started on how painful sitcoms are these days......Again, they don't hold a candle to 70's, 80's and early 90's sitcoms. there's no contest. I missed out on love boat, but I'm enjoying that one right now AND facts of life. they put me in such a great mood hehe.

Your still wearing the nostalgia goggles. Some of the 80s and 90s stuff back then are just as bad as the bad cartoons today. Case in point, Mega Babies. Flash and CG are merely tools, the quality you get out of them is what you put into them. And most animation on TV these days is 2D, so do give me the excuse that most cartoons today are CG. And have you even seen most modern Cartoons these days?

-Adventure Time
-Regular Show
-MLP
-Korra
-Steven Universe
-Gravity Falls
-Wander Over Yander
-Over the Garden Wall
-Star Vs. the Forces of Evil
-Rick and Morty
-Bob's Burgers (Season 2 and onwards)

Shows just as good, and in some cases better than what the 80s and 90s gave us.

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