Topic: Anyone else getting tired of remakes?

@N00BiSH Personally I'd just rather have remakes. If the remake is botched then the original game still exists. However I like seeing remakes because some games just would look better to me if they were actually brought up to the modern standard. I want more remakes like TTYD or Link's Awakening. More like Metroid Prime Remastered or Mario RPG. Mainly because I never got to play a ton of these games, but also because some of my favorite games are starting to show their age in a way that isn't favorable for them. Again, Twilight Princess looks decent but deserves so much more as the visuals and music haven't held up the best.

@N00BiSH
Here is the thing.
The remakes or remastered are optional choice, for anybody who prefer those games.
Nobody forced you to buy and play the remake or remastered games.
If you don't like, you can move on but by keep telling your complaints about remake / remastered trends will not change anything.
The developers will keep doing their agenda for remake / remastered, will not listen for trivial complaints from minority.

@FishyS The thing about new players not preferring old games is true but still kinda sad to think about. I'd say remakes don't take away from the original as long as the original is still commercially available in some way. In terms of film remakes I feel less critical of them because I don't feel like they're existing to be replacements in a way I do feel with games. Titanic '97 isn't a better version of Titanic '53. They're both very different films and that's to their benefit. It also helps that films are better preserved than games since they aren't limited.

@VoidofLight I won't fault you for preferring remakes but the idea that the original will still exist even with remakes around is flawed because they aren't always available. It's not going to change my opinion in that regard.

@Anti-Matter They're only optional if, again, the originals are still available which isn't always the case. I only kvetch about this because I want developers to reconsider their standards towards games preservation and not feel like they're just participating in an exercise of futility, which is essentially what all remakes are doing.

@N00BiSH You make a good point about availability.... and 'game preservation' is a huge piece when we consider the narrative around remakes etc.

So many games, including a huge portion of Nintendo's back catalogue, are 'locked' behind historic systems/consoles - with no other (legal) means of pursuing these entries. Pokemon Red/Blue still blow my mind in that you would require an original gameboy to play?

I understand Nintendo wanting to shut down emulation services that provide tools to play Ninendo IP... but equally, I wish Nintendo would look to port (or add to NSO?) a far broader range of titles than they do so already.

Or, in the case of Link's Awakening, full remakes/remasters are usually welcome

@CJD87 The Pokemon GB games were available via 3DS VC, at least.

Not that you can access those anymore.

@Ralizah Ah thanks my mistake... albeit the games are still (remarkably so!) elusive for the 'modern gamer'.

I wouldn't even be against Nintendo just putting them on the latest E-Shop and charging a small premium for digital ownership - they'd surely clean up with sales

@CJD87 tbh I wish they'd charge for digital ownership to begin with for NSO eshop games. They seem to think holding them hostage behind a subscription is more profitable, though.

Oh well. I own the ones they released on 3DS, as well as original cartridges, so I won't feel any guilt emulating them on my Steam Deck since they're unavailable otherwise.

@RygelXVIII I would get this argument if companies weren't trying their hand with brand new game concepts- but this isn't really the case? A lot of companies that remake their older games also still put out new IPs. Square Enix for example, where they've been remaking a ton of their older titles- yet still put out new IP after new IP. For every Final Fantasy 7 Remake you have games like Forspoken, Balan Wonderworld, Harvestella, Foamstars, etc. Sure- these games are pretty dubious in their quality, but it isn't like they're either picking remaking an old game or making a new one.

Nintendo has been pretty good about making brand new IPs and games whilst remaking their older stuff as well. Same with Atlus and similar with Capcom. The issue is when a corporation is like Sony, where they pretty much barely make new IPs and stick to either live service titles or remaking their "acclaimed" games over and over, despite those games not needing remakes. You have games like Horizon Zero Dawn getting a remake when it really doesn't need one at all.

This is pretty much my opinion as well. There are certainly some great remakes that enhance the original game (I haven't played it but Epic Mickey seems like a good recent example based on reviews, as the original had some major-ish flaws which the remake fixes) but I don't think I've ever really been excited about a remake unless it's a game where I couldn't access the original, in which case I'd be just as happy with a port or remaster. (Ok, halfway through this sentence I remembered I am looking forward to the Dragon Quest III remake, but that's a rare exception)

But as @VoidofLight says, it's not a huge problem as long as remakes aren't the only thing being made. Sometimes after a Nintendo Direct it feels like they are, but I don't think games have quite reached live-action Disney levels of creative bankruptcy yet.

I don’t mind a lot of remakes and remasters being made provided that:
1) they’re made with genuine love and passion for the original game
2) said original game is available to play in some way
3) the remake doesn’t exist to replace the original(goes in tandem with 2)

I am however bothered so many last Gen games being remade and Remastered like HZD and TLOU

Honestly, I don’t actually mind remakes.

I am fine with remakes if a game developer has an option to buy either the remake or the original game, since I think gaming preservation is important for games that released decades ago. I also think that remakes are fine, as long as the remake does have substantial improvements and upgrades from the original and isn’t just the first game but with different graphics, and if the people making the remake put in real effort and passion rather than making it cheap and soulless.

And, a bit random, but a specific example of a remake I have played that I do think felt kind of unchanged is Conker: Live and Reloaded on the Xbox (which is supposed to be remaking Conker’s Bad Fur Day) and while I did enjoy playing through the remake and thought that it improves parts of the original a lot, like making the bad gameplay a bit more bearable, having graphics that are REALLY stunning for the OG Xbox and a better camera, I still found a couple of parts to be relatively unchanged, like the terrible design for some levels still staying the same and the gameplay was kinda trashy despite the game making attempts to make it less repetitive. I also thought some of the charm from the original was sapped out with the new art style (which feels a bit generic in my opinion, at least from the gaming era it was released in) and how much they downgraded the facial expressions in that one.

I still don’t think that specific remake was abysmal, I still liked it more than others, but I think that it should have tried to make a bit more changes to it, mainly with the bad gameplay only having small changes to it that don’t substantially improve it or make it less frustrating since I think the gameplay is the most important part of any kind of game, especially a remake of an older game. I think that one of the worst things a remake can do is being almost the same as the original and keeping issues with the gameplay. Though, I should add that Live and Reloaded is almost two decades old and only released a few years after Bad Fur Day, so the gameplay in both of those are more outdated than new.