Topic: Fire Emblem: Fates

Nintendo is removing game mechanics as well?

The Kotaku article doesn't seem to be well-sourced, but if it is true...

I'm done.

@Ralizah: I know I was looking forward to playing the latest in one of the best strategy RPG series ever but now that they have removed all of the strategy and RPG mechanics from the game they can stick it where the sun don't shine. No one messes with MY games without MY permission and gets away with it. This'll teach them to remove the best and most thrilling parts of their games like they do ALL THE TIME. Grrrr I'm so mad!

I'm going OTT on the sarcasm because you're literally complaining about creepy face stroking minigame and that being the final straw. Are you being serious?

@Tsurii: I mean we all have certain stances when it comes to what we deem 'acceptable' but if THIS is what made you decide "nope" then I'd wager you weren't too interested in the game in the first place.

EDIT: obviously I don't refer to you specifically there but as a more general use.

@Tsurii:

You'd be surprised what they get away with on the Vita - not to mention Senran Kagura.

I'd admit there is a place for fanservice like this, and it shouldn't neccesarily be found in a game with as much history as Fire Emblem, but, personally, I'm just a little dissapointed they have to keep cutting stuff from this game.

It makes me worry what else they are going to deem unsuitable for Western audiences.

Do you think acting like an obnoxious buffoon gives your post some legitimacy it otherwise would have lacked?

If you're okay with playing a censored mess of a game that's removing gameplay mechanics haphazardly, that's your business. I'm not comfortable with it.

Amusing comment on this ridiculous double-standard.

Of course it's censored. Someone noticed it was a simulation of affection, and we don't tolerate that sort of thing over here. It had to go.

@Ralizah: honestly I just took the Mick because I find it quite amusing that this of all things means that much to you. If you can't take others' opinion that we're glad that this is gone and tough luck to all who cared for it then I'd suggest you get thicker skin. The only ridiculous thing I see is that this mechanic was ever thought as being a good idea to put into a game. Pokemon Amiee had at least some basis for logic (petting what are essentialy PETS anyone) but this is (or should that be was because it's gone forever thank God) just dumb, dumb dumb. All in all, more power to you for your stance, the rest of us will enjoy the game.

@Tsurii: also a good point if true. There certainly were people with that opinion of the face rubbing thing, though I can't say for certain who they were. Can't we all just enjoy the SRPG without all this nonsense noise surrounding it? :/

@TheLastLugia: I can handle dissenting opinions just fine. You weren't offering a dissenting opinion. You were making a fool of yourself in a failed attempt to mock me because I had the gall to object to pointless, puritanical censorship. You, my friend, are the one who needs to grow thicker skin.

FYI, calling something "creepy" isn't an argument, it's an emotional judgment. I understand the difference is subtle, but please, try to keep up.

Nope. Not once. I have no problem with the social features in these games at all.

Of course, even if I did (which I don't), I wouldn't support censoring them just because they weren't my cup of tea.

What did the rubbing'touching thing does for the game? Does it has bonuses for battles or something else? If its just fanservice and has no impact when in the battles or something then idc, but if it gives you, say, stat boost, I hope they reworked the mechanic so you could get access to the bonuses.

When I was playing the english patch, I noted there was a heart gauge. Dunno what it did, as I just tested that one time before stopped playing.

@Ralizah: Well okiee-dokiee-lokiee then. I feel I made my point quite well and I thought it was funny. I'll stop with the sarcasm if you stop with the ridiculous comparisons. I'll stick to looking forward to the game, you can stick to your stance. We cool?

Being serious now though, I was indifferent whether this change got removed or not. And at the moment, I don't really care too much.

Not losing any sleep over this.

@TheLastLugia: What ridiculous comparisons are you referring to?

@Ralizah: you know which one. The Pokemon Amiee one. Petting Pokemon (which are essentially pets) is something that people thought of being able to do in Pokemon games for a while. Because it makes sense. People pet pets all the time. Hence the name. Petting people? That's creepy, and that's why it's gone. I don't think I'm being unreasonable or too harsh in finding all this much-ado-about nothing.

So, some people are complaining that Kotaku is full of it because English-language footage has already shown evidence of the skinship mechanic still being in the game. This was linked as evidence of this: http://i.imgur.com/0SFH5nl.jpg

It still seems possible that they could have taken out the mini-game but left in the affinity boost it would otherwise provide. Still, something worth thinking about.

@TheLastLugia: I don't agree that showing affection to people is "creepy." It was a cute and quirky mini-game that functioned somewhat similarly to how it functioned in Pokemon.

Besides being amusing, the twitter post was pointing out the double-standard that, despite having nothing "inappropriate" in it, persay, Nintendo was still censoring the game, even though nobody had any problems with petting the human-shaped Pokemon in much more suggestive ways.

I understand that you don't care if Nintendo randomly removes features it doesn't think will be appealing overseas, but I do care. Nintendo is treating its customers like small children who need to be protected, and I find that to be insulting. I'd like to pay money for the complete game, not for the leftover scraps that the localizers judged to be inoffensive enough to leave in.

If you're okay with that, then fine. Good for you. But I'm not okay with it, and I'm not going to apologize for that.

Disgusting!

@Ralizah: good for you. I still find it funny though

And as a side note to that Amiee thing I don't think Nintendo/The Pokemon Company ever thought that people were going to do that to Machoke's Machoke. I think your reaaaaaaaalllly stretching things with that comparison if I'm being honest. More people will find that face petting weird and creepy rather than affectionate too. All you can do is what you're planning really, not give Nintendo your money.

In all seriousness, I support @Ralizah 100% over this. I wasn't interested in the Skinship - it actually didn't go far enough to be considered erotic - but there was simply no reason to remove it. Games should be fantasy and escapism, but nowadays any form of sexuality or eroticism is off-limits.

Bravely Default, Project Zero, Xenoblade Chronicles X, Fire Emblem Fates... Enough's enough. Someone at Nintendo (presumably Nintendo of America) is forcing their puritanical values onto those of us who aren't puritan. Nintendo was actually quite cool when I bought a 3DS - we had Dead or Alive Dimensions (OK, Sweden had a problem with it, but that's up to them) and Fire Emblem Awakening wasn't censored in Europe. Now Nintendo has changed into a company that tells me I'm not allowed the games as the Japanese developers intended. Well, if FE: Fates is as censored as it seems, I will support any boycott of it, and I won't get the NX either if this is the Modern Nintendo.

And I still find your posts to be rude. What's your point?

Most people won't care about this either way. They wouldn't care too much if it was left in, and they won't care too much that it was cut out.

@MetalKingShield: What's alarming to me is how the censorship is rapidly becoming more severe. I'm not a huge anti-censorship crusader, so stuff like the bravo bikini becoming the bravo miniskirt in BD didn't really bother me. The censored costumes in Fatal Frame and XCX were annoying, but not a deal breaker for me. The breast slider being removed seemed more severe, but it didn't stop me from getting the game. Now they're apparently removing entire gameplay mechanics from Fire Emblem. This has to stop somewhere, and if Nintendo is just going to keep censoring stuff more and more, I don't want to support them.

.....I can't help but feel that both sides of the argument are making mountains out of mole hills...
The argument is kinda taking away from the game more than the "censorship" is.