@Imbroken It's the lies. Sure, Microsoft, Sony, even Nintendo will mislead consumers from time to time. But Atari management has just bold faced lied continually about their progress and faked evidence to support thier lies. I mean, consider that they spent backer's money to buy hardware to support lies. They've earned their lack of credibility. They are actually delivering on their promises now, but it is difficult for anyone to believe them.
@BlubberWhale I hope you don't mean Nolan Bushnell. He's awesome of course, but has a history of just as many bad ideas as good ones. Alissa Bushnell, on the otherhand would be a great choice.
@FargusPelagius That's the thing, the controllers held very little intrest for me. Atari's BS had me concerned but they are finally delivering what they said they would. But when Atari said the batteries were soldered on to board it makes me wonder what other stupid things have they done that no one will know about until later, There is a wide range of poor choices that can be made in designing hardware. Things that end users don't or even can't know unless they go wrong. Look at this image for instance: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/VFYAAOSwT5tePZ-e/s-l300.jpg Can you see all the ridiculous design flaws in this computer motherboard? Consumers were told they were getting a better computer than previously available while it was maintaining backwards compatibility. An electrical engineer can look at this photo and see the flaws even without knowing what's in the ROM chips. Some flaws that would later haunt end-users: The clock is located to far away from the chips it serves. So the CPU, memory, and peripherals run at differernt clock rates. Each must constantly wait for the others to catchup. This 'faster' computer runs the same speed as the original (except when other things go wrong, then it is slower). This also prevents the computer from accuratly reporting the current time. This is a pre-internet computer so calandars and spreadsheets with dynamic time and date functions are somewhat useless. Chips have been added to cripple the backwards compatibiity. Memory, speed, and peripherals are blocked from older software. This motherboard will heat up excessively. The componets used are tough, way tougher than anything in a modern computer. So they will keep right on working without damage when heated. So, it will burst into flames? Probably not, the soldier will melt first causing key components to become desoldiered. Thus ending the source of heating. How many such poor design decisions are waiting to haunt VCS buyers. Oh I have complete confidence in Rob Wyatt to do very high quality work. But his work is based on management's decisions. Atari's management decisions are a series of fails (including not paying Rob Wyatt).
In the homebrew hardware scene, there are often unqualified people doing their best. They never pretend to be more. The current iteration of Atari is basically doing homebrew hardware, but constantlt BSing about it. I don't mean their current specs; rather their progress to them. The faked demos and such. Despite all that, I was set to buy a VCS and some memory for it. I want to do some portable GNU/Linux PC stuff. I don't have the time to build my own. I have battery and monitor solutions already. A laptop is more than I need for more money. An x86 Mini PC with graphics acceleration was an option of course. But I really didn't find one that fit. The VCS did, and the promised services were a bonus. Yah, i'd game and entertain on it. The controllers didn't impress me. I'd have bought it with or without them. But the day I would have purchased, it was revealed that the controllers had non-replaceable Li-Ion batteries. I thought, if they are making such a bonehead move, what other ones have they made that will only be found out later? Bought something else instead.
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Re: Atari Has Looked To Nintendo For Inspiration With Its New VCS Console
@Imbroken It's the lies. Sure, Microsoft, Sony, even Nintendo will mislead consumers from time to time. But Atari management has just bold faced lied continually about their progress and faked evidence to support thier lies. I mean, consider that they spent backer's money to buy hardware to support lies. They've earned their lack of credibility. They are actually delivering on their promises now, but it is difficult for anyone to believe them.
Re: Atari Has Looked To Nintendo For Inspiration With Its New VCS Console
@BlubberWhale I hope you don't mean Nolan Bushnell. He's awesome of course, but has a history of just as many bad ideas as good ones. Alissa Bushnell, on the otherhand would be a great choice.
Re: Atari Has Looked To Nintendo For Inspiration With Its New VCS Console
@FargusPelagius That's the thing, the controllers held very little intrest for me. Atari's BS had me concerned but they are finally delivering what they said they would. But when Atari said the batteries were soldered on to board it makes me wonder what other stupid things have they done that no one will know about until later, There is a wide range of poor choices that can be made in designing hardware. Things that end users don't or even can't know unless they go wrong. Look at this image for instance: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/VFYAAOSwT5tePZ-e/s-l300.jpg
Can you see all the ridiculous design flaws in this computer motherboard?
Consumers were told they were getting a better computer than previously available while it was maintaining backwards compatibility. An electrical engineer can look at this photo and see the flaws even without knowing what's in the ROM chips.
Some flaws that would later haunt end-users:
The clock is located to far away from the chips it serves. So the CPU, memory, and peripherals run at differernt clock rates. Each must constantly wait for the others to catchup. This 'faster' computer runs the same speed as the original (except when other things go wrong, then it is slower). This also prevents the computer from accuratly reporting the current time. This is a pre-internet computer so calandars and spreadsheets with dynamic time and date functions are somewhat useless.
Chips have been added to cripple the backwards compatibiity. Memory, speed, and peripherals are blocked from older software.
This motherboard will heat up excessively. The componets used are tough, way tougher than anything in a modern computer. So they will keep right on working without damage when heated. So, it will burst into flames? Probably not, the soldier will melt first causing key components to become desoldiered. Thus ending the source of heating.
How many such poor design decisions are waiting to haunt VCS buyers. Oh I have complete confidence in Rob Wyatt to do very high quality work. But his work is based on management's decisions. Atari's management decisions are a series of fails (including not paying Rob Wyatt).
Re: Atari Has Looked To Nintendo For Inspiration With Its New VCS Console
In the homebrew hardware scene, there are often unqualified people doing their best. They never pretend to be more. The current iteration of Atari is basically doing homebrew hardware, but constantlt BSing about it. I don't mean their current specs; rather their progress to them. The faked demos and such. Despite all that, I was set to buy a VCS and some memory for it. I want to do some portable GNU/Linux PC stuff. I don't have the time to build my own. I have battery and monitor solutions already. A laptop is more than I need for more money. An x86 Mini PC with graphics acceleration was an option of course. But I really didn't find one that fit. The VCS did, and the promised services were a bonus. Yah, i'd game and entertain on it. The controllers didn't impress me. I'd have bought it with or without them. But the day I would have purchased, it was revealed that the controllers had non-replaceable Li-Ion batteries. I thought, if they are making such a bonehead move, what other ones have they made that will only be found out later? Bought something else instead.