@FourBs But how do you know if Nintendo lost money on Bayonetta? I mean they havent spent anything on marketing in Japan so I guees they dont need much to break even
People think that if a game does not sell a million copies it is a failure, however, those million seller games are the products of teams of over a thousand people. Platinum games Bayonetta 2 team was 20- 30 strong. It probably only cost 2 million for nintendo to pay the rest of the development costs, it was already half made when ninty picked it up. Fatal frame is dirt cheap. They both made money. Hard to believe but games dont need to sell like watch_dogs to be a success or this industry would be dead years ago. But believe what you want.
@CaviarMeths the sales are exactly the same as the sales for Fatal frame 4 which released on a console with an install base of 10 million. The sales are very good it almost sold out.
@FourBs Sony spent millions on a national advertisement campaign on primetime tv to sell 10 000 extra consoles and 100 000 games. They lost more than they made.
@Diddy_kong I would take the whole article with a huge pinch of salt. I played both Bayonetta and Bayonetta 2 all the way through and Bayonetta one is much slower and suffers far more from dips in frame rate than bayonetta 2. The test they did to prove bayonetta on Xbox was smoother than bayonetta 2 was based on just a very complex intro sequence. In game is a different story. Agree about most wanted u.. It is a piece of sh9t.
@mjc0961 Wow you are dumb. God of war is a clone of DmC. which was designed by the maker of Bayonetta. Bayonetta is the pinnacle of his action genre design. Yeah but you couldnt get past stage two.. we understand.
I know website that is probably never getting a review copy ever again. Embargo? What's more, 8.. Really for a masterpiece from the best action game designer of all time.. You must be smoking.
@HAL9000 For your school I recommend you make a leader board for adventure mode. You can keep a record of who can complete a level the quickest with the most rupies. I have this game and it is pretty fun.
@Yasume 1. I dont think any of those games shipped to a lower install base. 2 It was obon where many families and people are not at home, they are visiting elderly relatives. So home console sales were bound to be low. 3. 70 000 in Japan week one is not bad at all. I'm sure they would have liked 100 000 but mid summer is not a good release spot and the game, while good, is pretty small in comparison to the established Musou games, which recyle old character models and level designs.
I find capcom the funniest. THey make a great deal of the money which subsidizes the ps3 and xbox flops from Monster Hunter on the 3ds. It is beyond a joke.
By the way, I remember watching the tree house at E3. I think Nintendo gave Ubi a place fo rJust dance right next to Bayonetta 2, which shows what Nintendo think of Ubisofts " Nintendo does not like mature games".
Wow.. well, ubisoft fail to sell any games at all in Japan on any system, in contrast to Activision, so just maybe, since Nintendo fans clearly prefer Japanese made games, nintendo owners also have similar tastes to Japanese gamers who see Ubisoft games for what they are.. crap.
Sad that wii u doesnt get Destiny, not sad at all for the lack of Ubi games..
Nintendo only remastered one game so far and that was a research project that turned out well. WW HD was an experiment for how they would make the new Zelda. So based on that, this is probably also a research project...
Played this game for 8 hours. It is a good game. Like the combat. It is a button basher, but the combos are crafted and unlocked. The weapons change the characters significantly. The story is pretty good. Not bad at all. no spoilers but the art style for the story is 100% zelda. The game has no popin Runs at 1080 upscaled 60 fps over 100 enemies on screen at any time. 2 different game styles Zelda and musou.
@JaxonH Watchdogs is never coming. Ubisoft cant make the game with out a hefty system install. Nintendo will not allow that.
The reason there is little third party support is the size of the wii u standard Hard drive.. Nothing to do with power. Devs complain it is difficult because they have to port the game to play off the disk. Most western Devs cant do that. They just did not make the games that way and they dont have the skill to change them. I would even say that this is the reason Project cars got delayed. Nintendo said to the devs you cant install 20gb on our hard drives make the game another way.
@Peach64 Seems a really stupid way to get games.. The original games on disk would cost a lot less and dont involve all the inconvenience. I mean say you want 3 games. At most you would be paying out £70 for all the originals. The loss you would make on 3 copies of Mk would be around £30, but here's the kicker you would have nothing physical to show for that money. What's more Nintendo got all your money and just gave you a piece of paper with a download code that has no future value. Only really economic morons would do what you are suggesting.
@aaronsullivan That's right. The kids get their New Year money and go nuts.
It is hell in Japan in the first week of January.
I see the WiiU is going to go big this winter in Japan. A big problem here was that a lot of the families could still buy wii games. They just weren't ready for a new console. Now the software is dying on the older systems and they want a new system. The Wiiu also undersold it's family friendly nature. Kid can play in the same room while you watch the news, dad can jump in on a game when the news has finished.
@shigulicious The PS4 is already a failure in Japan. Can you even imagine how the Japanese took the news that they would not get the system until February? February in Japan is a nothing month. No bonus, no national holidays, no kids with money, people worried about next years transfers/ work.. You have no idea about how Japan works. I've lived here for years. The PS4 is for otaku and foreigners. What's more most Otaku have bought a gaming PC.
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Re: Super Smash Bros. Slams the Competition Yet Again, 3DS Sales Drop
@FourBs But how do you know if Nintendo lost money on Bayonetta?
I mean they havent spent anything on marketing in Japan so I guees they dont need much to break even
Marketing costs as much as making a game.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Slams the Competition Yet Again, 3DS Sales Drop
People think that if a game does not sell a million copies it is a failure, however, those million seller games are the products of teams of over a thousand people. Platinum games Bayonetta 2 team was 20- 30 strong. It probably only cost 2 million for nintendo to pay the rest of the development costs, it was already half made when ninty picked it up.
Fatal frame is dirt cheap.
They both made money. Hard to believe but games dont need to sell like watch_dogs to be a success or this industry would be dead years ago.
But believe what you want.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Slams the Competition Yet Again, 3DS Sales Drop
@CaviarMeths the sales are exactly the same as the sales for Fatal frame 4 which released on a console with an install base of 10 million. The sales are very good it almost sold out.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Slams the Competition Yet Again, 3DS Sales Drop
@FourBs Sony spent millions on a national advertisement campaign on primetime tv to sell 10 000 extra consoles and 100 000 games. They lost more than they made.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Slams the Competition Yet Again, 3DS Sales Drop
@Peach64 the sales figures are consistan with japan for the last 5 years.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Slams the Competition Yet Again, 3DS Sales Drop
@Darknyht That is complete bs the fans are loving the game. Kotaku is a nonsense site.
Re: Want Bayonetta 2 On PS4 And Xbox One? You Might As Well Ask For Zelda Or Mario, Jokes Kamiya
Bayonetta makes them angry because they dont have anything worth playing. right now.
Re: Want Bayonetta 2 On PS4 And Xbox One? You Might As Well Ask For Zelda Or Mario, Jokes Kamiya
@ReaperX30 Please make sense.
You dont have a better game than Bayonetta 2. and you wont until something like Bloodborne is released.
Re: Bayonetta on Wii U Bewitches as the Best Version
@Diddy_kong I would take the whole article with a huge pinch of salt. I played both Bayonetta and Bayonetta 2 all the way through and Bayonetta one is much slower and suffers far more from dips in frame rate than bayonetta 2.
The test they did to prove bayonetta on Xbox was smoother than bayonetta 2 was based on just a very complex intro sequence. In game is a different story. Agree about most wanted u.. It is a piece of sh9t.
Re: Review: Bayonetta (Wii U eShop)
@mjc0961 Wow you are dumb.
God of war is a clone of DmC. which was designed by the maker of Bayonetta. Bayonetta is the pinnacle of his action genre design. Yeah but you couldnt get past stage two.. we understand.
Re: Review: Bayonetta (Wii U eShop)
I know website that is probably never getting a review copy ever again. Embargo?
What's more, 8.. Really for a masterpiece from the best action game designer of all time.. You must be smoking.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U May be Best as One of Two Consoles, Just Like Wii
Wii u and PC is the only way to go.. Ps4 is already dated.
Re: Somebody At Ubisoft Really Doesn't Like Mario Kart 8's Mercedes-Benz DLC
I dont really see the problem.. it is a bit of fun. People drive these cars in almost every race game... but god forbid they enter a cartoon world..
Re: Wii U Sales Continue to Rise with the Release of Hyrule Warriors – 3DS Sales Also Strong
@HAL9000 For your school I recommend you make a leader board for adventure mode. You can keep a record of who can complete a level the quickest with the most rupies. I have this game and it is pretty fun.
Re: Wii U Sales Continue to Rise with the Release of Hyrule Warriors – 3DS Sales Also Strong
@Yasume 1. I dont think any of those games shipped to a lower install base. 2 It was obon where many families and people are not at home, they are visiting elderly relatives. So home console sales were bound to be low. 3. 70 000 in Japan week one is not bad at all. I'm sure they would have liked 100 000 but mid summer is not a good release spot and the game, while good, is pretty small in comparison to the established Musou games, which recyle old character models and level designs.
Re: Wii U Sales Continue to Rise with the Release of Hyrule Warriors – 3DS Sales Also Strong
@jj87 That is Navi's voice. Link does not speak.
Re: Watch Dogs Will be the Only "Mature" Ubisoft Game on Wii U in Upcoming Lineup
@gameboy1975 Nice post man.
I find capcom the funniest. THey make a great deal of the money which subsidizes the ps3 and xbox flops from Monster Hunter on the 3ds. It is beyond a joke.
Re: Watch Dogs Will be the Only "Mature" Ubisoft Game on Wii U in Upcoming Lineup
By the way, I remember watching the tree house at E3. I think Nintendo gave Ubi a place fo rJust dance right next to Bayonetta 2, which shows what Nintendo think of Ubisofts " Nintendo does not like mature games".
Re: Watch Dogs Will be the Only "Mature" Ubisoft Game on Wii U in Upcoming Lineup
Wow.. well, ubisoft fail to sell any games at all in Japan on any system, in contrast to Activision, so just maybe, since Nintendo fans clearly prefer Japanese made games, nintendo owners also have similar tastes to Japanese gamers who see Ubisoft games for what they are.. crap.
Sad that wii u doesnt get Destiny, not sad at all for the lack of Ubi games..
Re: Feature: HD Remasters That Would Be Perfect for Wii U
Nintendo only remastered one game so far and that was a research project that turned out well. WW HD was an experiment for how they would make the new Zelda.
So based on that, this is probably also a research project...
Re: Video: Ghirahim Looks Creepy and Deadly in Hyrule Warriors
Played this game for 8 hours. It is a good game. Like the combat. It is a button basher, but the combos are crafted and unlocked.
The weapons change the characters significantly.
The story is pretty good. Not bad at all. no spoilers but the art style for the story is 100% zelda.
The game has no popin
Runs at 1080 upscaled
60 fps
over 100 enemies on screen at any time.
2 different game styles Zelda and musou.
Re: The Trending #WiiUDroughtAid Shows That, Actually, There's Plenty to Play on Wii U
@JaxonH Watchdogs is never coming. Ubisoft cant make the game with out a hefty system install. Nintendo will not allow that.
The reason there is little third party support is the size of the wii u standard Hard drive.. Nothing to do with power. Devs complain it is difficult because they have to port the game to play off the disk. Most western Devs cant do that. They just did not make the games that way and they dont have the skill to change them. I would even say that this is the reason Project cars got delayed. Nintendo said to the devs you cant install 20gb on our hard drives make the game another way.
Re: The Trending #WiiUDroughtAid Shows That, Actually, There's Plenty to Play on Wii U
@midnafanboy What third party games were released this summer? Please refresh my memory/
Re: Mario Kart 8 Sales Increase By Nearly a Third in UK, Moves Back Up the Charts
@Peach64 Seems a really stupid way to get games.. The original games on disk would cost a lot less and dont involve all the inconvenience. I mean say you want 3 games. At most you would be paying out £70 for all the originals. The loss you would make on 3 copies of Mk would be around £30, but here's the kicker you would have nothing physical to show for that money. What's more Nintendo got all your money and just gave you a piece of paper with a download code that has no future value. Only really economic morons would do what you are suggesting.
Re: Japanese Video Site Niconico Live Streaming Hyrule Warriors Tomorrow
@cdude For people like you every one should start referring to Link as " that guy from Hyrule warriors."
Re: Mario Kart 8 Sales Increase By Nearly a Third in UK, Moves Back Up the Charts
@Jazzer94 Yeah... if you could do that it would be great... but you cant. Nice troll....
Re: Wii U Sales Jump Again as Nintendo Maintains Hardware Dominance in Japan
@aaronsullivan That's right. The kids get their New Year money and go nuts.
It is hell in Japan in the first week of January.
I see the WiiU is going to go big this winter in Japan. A big problem here was that a lot of the families could still buy wii games. They just weren't ready for a new console. Now the software is dying on the older systems and they want a new system. The Wiiu also undersold it's family friendly nature. Kid can play in the same room while you watch the news, dad can jump in on a game when the news has finished.
Re: Wii U Sales Jump Again as Nintendo Maintains Hardware Dominance in Japan
@shigulicious The PS4 is already a failure in Japan. Can you even imagine how the Japanese took the news that they would not get the system until February? February in Japan is a nothing month. No bonus, no national holidays, no kids with money, people worried about next years transfers/ work.. You have no idea about how Japan works. I've lived here for years. The PS4 is for otaku and foreigners. What's more most Otaku have bought a gaming PC.
Sony see Japan as a lost cause.