Back in early February we pointed you towards the 2022 State of Switch Survey, an annual process run by Switch Weekly that polls thousands of people on a broad range of topics. The results from those entries have now been published and are well worth a read; there were some interesting - if not necessarily surprising - results.
We were particularly interested in the Nintendo Switch Online section, with the backdrop that Nintendo confirmed the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pack for the Expansion Pack during the survey process. For starters 88.9% of respondents confirmed they have the standard NSO subscription, which is unsurprising as it's a requirement for online play (and cloud saves). Over a third of people take advantage of the family membership, with over 55% of those doing that with a group that includes friends and 'others', enabling users to have access at a low price.
The take-up of the Expansion Pack, though, remains modest. The survey showed that only 32.1% of NSO-subscribed respondents upgraded to the most recent service. Even after the MK8 content was added, only around a third of respondents say they'd 'think again'. The common complaints from those that have chosen not to upgrade were familiar - it seems plenty of Switch owners feel that it's too expensive and not offering enough value.
Meanwhile, on that old topic of Joy-Con drift, a whopping 68%+ of respondents said they'd experienced the problem, a number that continues to rise as systems and controllers get older. Around a quarter stated they'd bought replacements 'more than once', while the Pro Controller and third-party Joy-Con alternatives are popular. On the one hand the age of the system and controllers make this unsurprising, but nevertheless it's certainly been one of the most notable downsides of the Switch generation to date.
The survey also gives an interesting reminder that the enthusiast base of Switch owners still put a significant emphasis on physical copies of games. Respondents' combined percentage of 'digital' titles as opposed to cartridges was 53% downloads; when you consider how many games are download-only on the Switch, that's actually a rather low number. That's a ratio that's barely changed over the years of the survey, showing that the physical market is still alive and well for Switch games, among devoted fans at least.
The final section we'll highlight relates to fans' thoughts on the longevity of the Switch generation. The median response to "how many more years Switch owners expect/hope Nintendo will continue to support the platform" was four years, taking us to 2026. This does match Nintendo's public statements that it considers the Switch to be around halfway through its lifecycle, and respondents likely still include a form of 'Pro' or upgrade as part of the Switch lifecycle. Considering the fact over 22% of respondents already have a Switch OLED, just months after its release, it's clear that there's still reasonable contentment with what the Switch platform has to offer, even when it's only upgrades relate to battery, build quality or the screen.
The survey has a whole lot of interesting statistics (yes, fans still want an F-Zero comeback), so we recommend you give the full results a look at the link below.
Depends on who is replying, as we normally only get the views of the core gamers with things like this.
Also very little context with any of those figures the survey mentions, as it does not give a number to how many people actually completed the questions, I know I did not.
And I hope Nintendo themselves actually look at this and make changes.
The issue that i want to address to Nintendo is Code in Box treatment.
When the developer is unable to release their games in physical release, do not make Code in Box treatment. That will lead to material wasting and fraud. This is one reason I started to slowly lost my hype with Nintendo Switch.
Thanks to third party joycon controllers that saved what should've been a disaster for the Nintendo switch.
I got a code in the box for Lego Marvel, as it was pretty much half price, Digital downloads are fine, but should not cost more than physical games.
As long as F-Zero comeback is a popular answer this survey is useful. Hope Nintendo listens.
@fafonio Amen Falcon Punch
When it comes to the date of the switch replacement, I would prefer to wait until they are ready with a huge rather than incremental upgrade.
I remember being completely wowed by the upgrade of snes to n64, ps1 to ps2 and so on. Recent consoles like ps4 to ps5 and wii u to switch haven't given us massive graphical upgrades.
Not saying the switch isn't way better than the Wii U but look at the difference between their versions of MarioKart and Donkey Kong. It doesn't immediately jump out at you.
I dont want a longer generation I want Nintendo to go next gen sooner rather than later
A non-stratified random sample of 5,000 (with 1.7% as non-owners) out of ~100,000,000.
A lot of work has gone into the write-up though
I did the survey and completed it.
I asked for a New F Zero.
I told them I've had drift 3 times.
I told them I buy physical over digital.
I told them I want the Switch to last another year or so.
Did they listen?
For me the Switch is becoming more and more like a legacy platform. There's not a single (confirmed) game I'm looking forward to on it.
I've given up hope on Resident Evil Revelations 3, as I simply don't think it will happen. Capcom have their mainline games in the series and then the remake line games it seems, so I can't see the less successful Revelations line of games getting a new installment.
I of course hope that the rumoured Batman Arkham Collection (or maybe even Alan Wake) will surface at some point, but I must admit I'm really looking forward to getting the Steam Deck I've pre-ordered.
@Savino There are over 100 million Switches in the wild, about three or four times the combined sales of PS5 and Series X/S consoles. I don’t think that means we won’t see any more third party titles - quite the opposite.
What it does mean is that we are unlikely to see many more multi-platform releases also hitting Switch. Not that there have been that many anyway. But we should still get Switch first titles, like Triangle Strategy and MH Rise, that end up on PC later.
You write as if 1/3 was not a huge number of people. I highly doubt that 30% of all users have the expansion - this is only a slice of fairly hardcore fans - but still...that is a lot for an unproven product.
i just find the controllers flimsy. my sr and sl buttons stopped working, buttons are wearing down, and drift is still here after numerous fixes. 3 pairs of joycons and none of them are fully functioning. ill just settle on 3rd party controllers at this point
@PeteW don't think "Wii U to Switch" think "3DS to Switch". That's a much fairer comparison
@boxyguy I've replaced the ribbon cables connecting the SL/SR buttons 4 or 5 times. Fortunately it's a 15 min job and costs about £2 but I absolutely shouldn't have to.
I've also replaced my analogue sticks probably 8 or 9 times now (4 Joy Con all bought on launch day). I've replaced the Joy Con rails once and now the fan is rattling so I'm going to have to replace that soon too. May as well do the battery at the same time as that's 5 years old now
None of this is acceptable but at least it's a very, very easy device to disassemble and work on
@Krull Exactly. Current gen ports on Switch (especially ones that launch day in date with other platforms) have always been the exception not the rule. It’s nice to get stuff like Doom Eternal but nobody is buying a Switch expecting it to get the same kind of support as other platforms when it comes to third parties. Switch has always been bolstered by first party games, indies and Japanese third parties (who aren’t going to up and leave Switch considering it’s dominating Japan). Fewer current gen ports isn’t going to make much of a difference, and there’s still a market for ports of older games to come to Switch.
this is useful in that it may decently reflect the opinions of people like us who invest heavily in the Switch ecosystem.
However, it is definitely not a representative sample of the user base
Good to see common sense prevail.
@PeteW Switch replaced the 3DS/Vita for me, and it is a massive upgrade from those consoles in most ways (aside from social activity).
I really don't think Nintendo has a way forward in the dedicated home console (I.e. TV connected) market. They're never going to compete with PS or Xbox and they know it. So they took the smarter path to focus on portables
@Mando44646 they can make a underpowered Apple TV like box which may not compete with traditional consoles but shields and Apple TV.
Removed - unconstructive feedback
@sixrings wouldn’t be surprised if they did do one of those. Nintendo is targeting that market with the way they’ve built the Switch.
I absolutely love Nintendo, but its just not the drift my brothers controllers both have SEVERE drift and also randomly presses buttons and that's not even 2 years after buying the console
@PeteW I’d suspect we’ll hear about something new in 2023.
2017 — Switch launch
2019 — Switch v2, Switch Lite
2021 — Switch OLED
2023 — “New” Switch…?
My comment wasn't really directed at NL as such - I think they've just highlighting a friend's survey. It may be the only user survey for the Switch?
However, yes, I think that it won't be representative of switch gaming as a whole due to the way the sample was determined.
Despite it's problems I still think switch is my favorite Nintendo console. It's just great in so many ways. That said they could improve some things, like add a messaging system and a better way to add friends. The games could be cheaper too. Other than that, it's a fun system. I haven't loved a Nintendo system this much since GameCube.
@cammers1995 As time goes on, I'm starting to feel the same!
i can see the Switch sucessor releasing on Holiday 2024.
@gopher1369 thats true, i just find it a pain since online orders for new parts can take several weeks in my area. its easy but also not convenient. but ill look into ribbons, id love to use the sr/sl buttons again
It’s pointless Nintendo will never act on what we want. They only believe in what they want.
@Savino You know how many games take 5 years or longer to develop? A 5 year generation doesn't make any sense nowadays. Also we're seeing more third party games on the Switch now than in any previous year.
I've had three pairs of Joy-Cons with drift, but the last time was in 2020. No issues since then.
@boxyguy I'm in England and there are loads of UK based sellers on eBay, eg
For me digital vs physical comes down to three questions:
1. Where do I want to store the game data?
It is enormously handy to have certain games available without swapping cartridges, especially if they are things that would only get played for a little while in between longer stuff like Zelda. I definitely prefer it to cartridges, except that micro SD still has size limitations. So I will also buy physical games to reduce the amount of storage that the SD card needs to use.
2. How many other people in my family will want to play this?
I own Super Mario Odyssey, Breath of the Wild, Kirby and the Forgotten Land, and several others physically because they can be inserted into my wife's switch (or our damaged TV-only switch which I let my kids use with less supervision) and it'll work without any fuss or oversight, or having to manage account credentials or access to the eShop.
I own Street Fighter 30th anniversary, BlazBlue, and a few others as digital downloads because only I will play them.
3. What is cheaper?
Usually but not always a determining factor. Publisher sales on the eShop make this a bit of a wash.
It would be great if developers were to look at the data collected in these surveys and do as consumers ask. There’s no reason why more FPSs haven’t been ported or developed with the Switch in mind. Even more baffling is Atlus, considering the anniversary of the series, not bending to consumer demand for Persona ports to other consoles and PC.
It’s a fairly sizable survey. Just how big must a survey be for you to accept it as above any doubt? News Flash many people turn up their noses at surveys. Even taking a small sampling of a product I could tell you if it was milk or orange juice.
I was so honored to have been one of the people anonymously quoted in this! I was the quote about Animal Crossing and 2020 / 2021 blending into each other!
That aside, the survey was a fun read! This was my first year participating in it, or even reading it! I'll plan to stick with it going forward, I think!
@GameOtaku I wasn't attacking the survey, just pointing out its limitations. This is what we're supposed to do when analyzing results. Its not a scientific survey, but thats fine if thats the point.
My dream is something more powerful than PS5/XSX (it will have been over two years; those consoles are obsolete now so anything new has to be significantly beefier) and not portable. I don't go to rooftop parties, and I just can't understand how anyone else does.
I know I'll be dreaming forever. But that's the way it is being a Nintendo fan.
My drift issues were resolved once I sent in my joy cons to Nintendo and then updated. Haven't had an issue since doing that. And, good to see that physical is holding strong.
I knew you weren’t attacking the survey. I was merely pointing out that the results were fairly indicative of the majority of switch owners and what they want. The survey (in which I participated in) is pretty much in line with my opinions with one exception being the online (which I absolutely am against).
... but they didn't ask about the switch pro?🤣
Joy con drift has been a huge issue for me. I think I may have had 3 previous pairs of joycons suffer. Besides that it has been a superb console. Here's to the Switch Advance!
Still got and using my original day 1 Joy-Con on my OLED. Had a little drift once but contact cleaner sorted that and been fine since. Hundreds of hours use and outlasted two PS4 controllers during that time.
So called stick-drift affects all controller sticks, but most the time it's an easy solve with a bit of cleaning.
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