
Update: Netflix has now confirmed that it is indeed expanding into the world of video games.
In a shareholders letter (thanks, Gamespot), the company says that it is "in the early stages" of its new initiative, confirming that games will eventually be included as part of a Netflix subscription at no extra cost, as previously reported:
"We’re also in the early stages of further expanding into games, building on our earlier efforts around interactivity (eg, Black Mirror Bandersnatch) and our Stranger Things games. We view gaming as another new content category for us, similar to our expansion into original films, animation and unscripted TV.
Games will be included in members’ Netflix subscription at no additional cost similar to films and series. Initially, we’ll be primarily focused on games for mobile devices. We’re excited as ever about our movies and TV series offering and we expect a long runway of increasing investment and growth across all of our existing content categories, but since we are nearly a decade into our push into original programming, we think the time is right to learn more about how our members value games."
Original Article (Thu 15th Jul, 2021 12:00 BST): TV and movie streaming giant Netflix could offer video games as part of its subscription from as early as next year, a new report claims.
According to Bloomberg, a person "familiar with the situation" has stated that video games could appear "within the next year", being available alongside the service's current content as a new, standalone genre. Apparently, Netflix doesn't have any plans to charge any extra for the video game content on offer, presumably meaning that current subscribers would be able to access the games with no extra steps required.
The report notes that Netflix has hired former Electronic Arts and Oculus veteran Mike Verdu as its vice president of game development; previously, Verdu worked as Facebook’s vice president and was in charge of helping developers bring their games to the Oculus VR platform.
The idea of Netflix adding games to its service isn't new, of course; reports surrounding the possibility first appeared back in May, and the company itself has expressed that it's "excited to do more with interactive entertainment." We've also seen Netflix properties appear on Switch, such as Stranger Things 3: The Game – but will games like these end up being exclusive to Netflix's service going forward?
Are you a Netflix subscriber? Would you welcome games to the service? How do you think such a thing could impact Nintendo, Xbox Game Pass, or other areas of the gaming world? Share your thoughts with us in the comments.
[source bloomberg.com, via eurogamer.net]
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I am convinced Wesker is behind all streaming services now; ensuring complete, global, saturation.
Free for now, but soon too follow will be that increase in subs... If they are interested in breaking into the gaming market hey should at least test the water by buying some old IP and reuse in a retro gaming section..
They have a better chance of success than Stadia, but that's not saying much. Good luck.
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can't wait to play The Division 2 yet again but on Netflix this time
Today's most unsettling news headline.
I have played what I suppose can be called "videogames" on TV apps using a remote control, before. I really hope they have something better in mind. The bar is set so incredibly low here.
Stadia says hi!
I hope Disney does the same with Disney+ and offers licensed games based on their properties as well as old LucasArts games?
Who's up for some Classic Battlefront II on Disney+? Or Jedi Academy on Disney+?
@PoliticallyIncorrect Same its an absolute joke. I watced their bonnie and clyde thing last night on my brothers account and was astounded and amazed not to see any wokeness in it! It's the first non woke thing on there since breaking bad.
I don't own any non-Nintendo consoles (can't afford them), so it would be nice to play something new and outside my usual experiences! Does anyone know if they will port Xbox or PS games?
I'm already knee-deep in their services, so bring it on.
Maybe Netflix will publish their app to the Switch to try and reach as large of an audience as possible
I thought that's what the Nintendo online Nes and Snes Apps were. Basically Netflix for games locked behind a subscription instead of letting you buy the games like VC. Plus we are drip fed new titles every six months or so. What a deal!
Yeah, but being Netflix they'd have a separate charge to play your games in HD. Seriously, they still charge extra for HD video
I would rather Netflix just continue to focus on streaming movies and shows. Netflix has the best streaming for slow internet, I would hate to see that impacted by a gaming service.
No interest in streaming either movies or games at all.
Player 1: Cool Netflix is bringing Cloud game closer!
Player 2: You think that is good?
Player 1: Hell yeah I can play all game anytime I want.
Two days later.
Player 1: Nintendo sucks they are not bringing out a physical copy of Metroid 6!
Player 2: But you can play any game on Cloud gaming?
Player 1: ... no my internet is down...
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If they can barely put anything of worth in their film and television collection then why should they bother with gaming?
@JHDK
If they’re not charging more for games, I’d say they have a fantastic chance of success. Exclusive games plus great exclusive streaming content would be a great combo in the increasingly competitive streaming world.
If they charge a separate or increased fee for games, then yeah, I’d say their chances of success are pretty low.
Fingers crossed it gets Skyrim. haha
So a streaming service that will include TV shows, anime, movies and now video games? If they get the price right then this could become "the" streaming service to have
It could only run very basic phone type games presumably unless it came with some kind of hardware. Expecting lots of Puzzle Bobble clones and the like.
I don’t understand this or how it could work…. Unless they have an app on ps4/5 and Xbox/ switch and I can play there I can’t see this being popular to anyone…. People keep refusing to move away from consoles yet these firms keep trying. Mobile gaming satisfies a whole segment of the market. PC gaming another chunk and then a console gamers….. these types of services just appear to be appealing to no one yet they are constantly touted as the future
I'm really hoping VR is a part of that at some point, but it's probably just basic streaming of games from a cloud server to devices like the Switch, Series X/S, PS5 and PC, etc.
I'll stick to dedicated consoles and my PC, but there will eventually be a market for streaming games. HOWEVER... that will only happen when A-internet access is universally strong enough for widespread adoption & B-the service providing the streams have a suite of compelling exclusives that will bring in gamers.
Glitchy streams of half decade old titles will attract no one.
My internet is crap so there is no chance I would be able to use this service at all, in fact I can't cloud game at all lol
Try again Netflix, but hey at least their TV series and movies are reliable so who knows about the gaming side of things
Any news of companies pushing cloud only based gaming is bad news to me personally. We should never lose physical media. It is yours to keep, usually far cheaper, and keeps far more people in work.
I would be happy if it turned out to be just interactive movies like Black Mirror Bandersnatch, but bringing over games such as the ones developed by Welsh Interactive, etc. I'm not interested in another stadia-style experience.
@ryancraddock The idea of Netflix carrying games goes back to 2011 when Netflix announced they were splitting their service between two companies Quikster for DVD and game rentals and Netflix for streaming. The idea was quickly canceled due to customer backlash.
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Bloomberg once again "reporting, so this can be considered as BS at the moment.
@PoliticallyIncorrect Yeah, their politically correct BS is stupid. It happened to me as well.
I am not sure how I feel about this. Because of streaming services, we are absolutely saturated with repetitive TV shows. I find it impossible to get excited for new TV shows anymore . If we have gaming on demand like this, games will be churned out to increase subscriptions.
I already find it hard to get excited about new games like I used to, due to less new ideas for franchise updates or not so much new franchises, as well as the bastardisation of the indie scene. Having an over saturated streaming service will make things even worse.
I hope I am wrong.
@PoliticallyIncorrect well what did you say?
Nintendo is reasonably safe with its handheld consoles, which is all two and soon to be three of them.
But it's home console (games on big screen TV's) is what's in danger.
Netflix will do things correctly and in a big way, it may do a deal with Nintendo to offer Mario Zelda etc games on its service.
We all know that this is where the future of gaming is heading. Handheld gaming is a separate issue, but to play Nintendo games on a big screen in 4k without the need to invest in a console does look attractive, especially when Nintendo doesn't even have a 4k console for us to purchase.
Is there somewhere saying it's a cloud streaming service? Maybe it's downloads like Xbox Gamepass. Someone is going to need to give Microsoft some competition in that space before they run away with it.
One thing is for sure — Nintendo didn't go for a Netflix app as-is, they're certainly not going to allow one if there is streaming games on it too.
@PoliticallyIncorrect What was it? Can you paraphrase so as not to get it removed again?
@Clyde_Radcliffe, the games would presumably be running on high end PCs somewhere in a Netflix warehouse, with the image streamed to whatever device you're playing on. Assuming your internet is good enough, the experience would be the same no matter whether you're streaming it to your phone, console, or TV.
I have Xbox Game Pass, and while my internet while out & about isn't quite good enough for xCloud, while at home I can play on my phone or tablet (either using one of those phone controller grips or using my PS4 controller) really well.
Way too many streaming services. You no longer need to cut the cord. As for this, who is it for? Casuals won't use it. Dedicated gamers will stick to their consoles/PCs. Streaming won't be the future unless Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo make a console only dedicated to that, and thankfully none of them have yet.
@CupidStunt I understand the fear, but the inverse is just as likely to be the case... because the financial pressure is distributed across the network rather than on any single title, it can allow developers to take more risks and worry much less about padding out for a "full-price" experience.
Really, it's going to be Microsoft's (or any service's) internal metrics that determine the marketplace and what devs are going to be incentivized to do. We'll likely want some kind of insight into how they choose their titles so we as gamers can still affect the market.
@Spiders I hope you are right!
@kingbk Gamepass rocks, and definitely has it's place in the future. Xbox can be considered a "streaming box" with vestigal legacy hardware attached to it. Performance is the only issue that holds the things back for "dedicated" gamers, and both Gamepass and PS Now allow downloads.
There is some future version of this that could be successful. Stadia blew it, but there's no reason someone else couldn't do it well. I think the '$400 console / $60-70 dollar per game' model is a lot less future-proof.
@CupidStunt Me too! All the positive articles coming out from devs saying Gamepass was huge for them gives me hope. I just subscribed to Gamepass on PC (I don't have an XBox) and I've got about 6 indie titles downloaded — games I wouldn't be able to afford to support otherwise. If just downloading, wishlisting, or playing becomes real "support" for these devs and kinds of titles, I think it's possible.
The thing is, there are so many questions!
Will the only be offering their own content? Will they be carrying third-party content? Will players be able to use specific controllers? Will it be mostly story-based "choose your own adventure" type games like that Minecraft one? Or will it be actual videogames streamed like is done on Stadia and PS Now?
So many questions!
Google, Apple, and Amazon have been threatening to dominate the gaming market for ever and have never been able to get it together. Microsoft have put more in than they ever got out. Facebook promised to support VR and now they’re subsidising it with ads.
I wonder if Netflix will do any better? I have a feeling I know.
STADIA anyone....????????
With a proper setup Stadia is pretty amazing. I use it more than my XOne.
I do think it's the way to go, just too early to really take over the current market.
@ChrisHoi google has all but killed it, sadly
@InkIdols google has all but killed it, sadly
Well said sadly the NA infrastructure isn't up to par with Fiber to everyone Home or Business or if they could even afford that. Leave it to the Insurrection Repub to be a truly DO NOTHING Senate.
Purely cloud (Servers Farm) isn't the future of gaming if game developers want to survive. Having gamers buy physical games guarantee they have a vest interested in making games long term. For iNdie that is more nuance as some became blockbuster and some died before going live.
@Switchforce My thoughts exactly. Physical games should always be a part of the industry. The current hardware can't support the games NOT being on the system itself.
@NotGeno I just said that I cancelled Netflix because I'm sick of politics and wokeness in my movies. Nothing more than that. Watch, this will get deleted too, even though all I'm doing is telling you why.
@PoliticallyIncorrect What are some of your favorite movies?
@Bret Movies without any type of indoctrination in them. I'm an atheist, and don't believe in pushing beliefs on others.I mostly watch horror and action flicks, but I watch other genres.
@PoliticallyIncorrect but this is about Netflix venturing into gaming and not your interest in anti-woke TV shows and films. Whatever that even means.
@PoliticallyIncorrect Guessing Black Panther wasn't your favorite Marvel movie.
Sounds fun! I'm excited to see how this works out for them! And what games will be supported...
@Bret I never saw it. Don't get into superheroes. If you're trying to insinuate I'm a racist or something, you're way off base.
@Absol And if I cancelled Netflix, I'm obviously not interested right? I have a right to state why I'm not interested right?
@PoliticallyIncorrect Nah, that wasn't the intent, it's just probably the most "political" and "woke" Marvel movie overall.
@Bret Just making sure. I've been called all kinds of things I am not just because I don't agree with someone. Most people think I'm Conservative, but I'm not that either.
no Mario Games; than its no thank you on the netflix video games.
As a long time Netflix customer, I find this intriguing.
If it doesn't cost anything extra, of course I'll try it out.
But RE: Nintendo, it is the IP that me and my kids like. Mario. Yoshi. Zelda. Donkey Kong. But glad that games like Minecraft and Among Us is available on the Switch as well.
What I really want is Netflix to introduce Audio Books, and old time Radio Shows!
I lot of the time, I have Netflix on in the background as I do other stuff. Like clean the garage, or work on the computer.
If Netflix had audio books, I'd listen to them in the car while I drive to work!
@Bret I’m anti-woke culture and I loved Black Panther. It having a story about and reflecting on black culture does not make it woke. I wouldn’t put it anywhere near Disney/Marvel’s worst offenders.
@NintendoDad Spotify has a selection of audiobooks and a many podcasts - some are the modern day equivalent of old radio dramas. Not sure what is all in the free tier, but check it out!
@Spiders
Thanks for the info.
I did not know that.
I'll check it out!
If anything, it'll be a handy excuse for them to avoid too many complaints about jacking up the overall price next year, in accordance with general inflation.
@Sourcecode
If it's any consolation, Netflix has already sold off sevaral canceled shows, for other distributors to continue them.
So at least they're not try to be the dragon sleeping on the biggest pile of bones. Unlike Disney, or more familiar to us in the game world: Electronic Arts and Ubisoft.
Remember when Netflix added Minecraft Story Mode to the service as one of the choose-your-own-path/adventure things?
This is a bad idea, they should stick to streaming video and maybe make more shows based on games
Gonna fail like the others
Makes sense. With all the new entrants to movie/tv streaming Netflix is just one option now instead of THE streaming source. Streaming is becoming like cable tv packages now, theres a while bunch you have to buy separately if you want all the options. By moving into video game streaming they are once again trying to get into a nascent market and also try to differentiate themselves as THE streaming service to have, at least for people who play games some. They'll probably offer this free for a few months to get people hooked and then you'll end up paying like $10/mo more to add in the video game service. All depends on what games they get though.
Wrong big N, Nintendolife!
I hope the games aren't just ones based on Netflix movies, I'm not really into those sort of things (games based off movies).
@Zeldafan79 I don't mind the annual 20 bucks, but put some more effort into the service. Same with the E Shop. I wish they would make online a priority and not a tacked on feature.
Streaming games is a great alternative for some people. Looking forward to see where Netflix head with this. More ways to play is good.
Stranger things 3 was actually pretty good on switch. However, it had some REALLY hard difficulty spikes. Being that I love the show so much, I looked past it some of its shortcomings.
@Bret Haven't seen Black Widow yet?
Start hoarding your games, everyone. One day, everything will be “games as a service,” so we won’t be able to own anything but subscription services.
I'm getting subscription service fatigue.
Cloud gaming……..ummm?
without a proper controller you wont be able to play these on tv. And how many non-hardcore gamers will invest on a 60-70$ peripheral?
And yet they still don't have a netflix app on the switch
Some people need to chill
They said its just mobile games.....
They should just stick to what they're good at. Netflix already dominates the living spaces of so many households, their games won't be necessary and I'd imagine they will pale in comparison to the offerings of actual game companies.
their stranger things games were ok but not that great. Mobile games still got issues. Even Apple's subscription service isn't getting any momentum
@HolyGeez03 I have now!
@kingbk
It’s devolved from continuing the golden age of TV to 90% of it being an endless all you can buffet of bad junk food and it only gets amplified as more streaming services are forced into existence that necessitate dumbed down trash to attract the most people rather than something intelligent or different.
Well, glad they're not increasing the price tiers
Considering it's just going to be cloud gaming and mobile garbage, it already sounds like a fail. It also sound like if you already got the Netflix app on your PS4 or Xbox One you could just play those garbage games from there as Netflix aren't offering their own hardware to stream from or even a unique controller like what Steam, the Ouya, Amazon Luna, Google Stadia, Xbox, Atari VCS, and OnLive did. Now it does kinda make sense why Netflix aren't coming to Switch, it's the only console that had everything to do with games and now they see Nintendo as a competitor.
Mobile isn't what I was expecting from Netflix. That said, PS has a lot of connection to Netflix, and I know there's been rumors, so it's always possible if not probably some sort of PSNow connection will be part of this in the future.
@SalvorHardin So, basically like satellite then?
@BloodNinja Why reduce everything to subscription only when you can con suckers into paying $70 for a content unit, twice, that they otherwise get included in the subscription they're otherwise also paying for?
....and yes...I'm guilty...
@chapu2006 IDK, I'd rather play a game based on a movie than a game that wants to be a movie...
KNOW YOUR LANE
@NEStalgia Good point! LOL
@Brummieendo90 hate to break it to you bud but the show presenting a man's speedy decline into evil after being entirely screwed by the system in his country is actually a criticism of said system.
I haven't tried any of their interactive productions yet, but maybe I will. Then I'll have a better idea of whether it might pay off to pitch them something myself. :3
Who here thinks this will fail, like every other attempt to bring "game streaming" to the masses? I know it's Netflix, but every other outsider has failed at this.
@MS7000 Does that include eggs?
@InkIdols Hard argee! Netflix is already bleeding money from asking studios to put their stuff on Netflix, rather than make their own service and put it there. The real problem is that Xbox Game Pass exists and not only has the backing of many major Triple AAA studios, but also Microsoft's MASSIVE back catalog dating over two decades now, which is equal to 50-60 years in movie/TV land.
I can't see Nintendo really doing anything with the GameCube onwords because the games are massive compared to N64 games. If they did, that requires streaming, which Nintendo can't understand, let alone do. There's also the fact that unlike with the Virtual Console back in the Wii days, third party publishers have realized that their back catalog is valuable and want to profit on it, rather than license it to Nintendo for less money. That's why we've been getting B-tier 3rd party games for the SNES NSO app. (As why we haven't Earthbound yet...)
@PoliticallyIncorrect Somebody is out to get you dude, and guess what? it looks like you have to like there movies to.
Also just a mobile game? Wow, I really wasn't thinking that LOL.
@HolyGeez03 I'm not even going to with that movie, I'm just going to watch the end or whatever but ugh god.
@Bret
That goes to falcon and winter soldier
So this is the answer to why Netflix has been conspicuously absent from the Switch. Nintendo must have caught wind that they were planning to make a push into video games.
Obviously nothing Netflix can put out can possibly compete with the likes of Jelly Boy and Claymates!!
Another streaming service option for something. I’m not looking forward to the day where you don’t own anything and instead are steadily milked dry for any and all content.
@blindsquarel Not a movie, but otherwise you're right, no contest. I loved those bits of Falcon & the Winter Soldier
@Bret
Keeping the political parts out of it because that is very subjective, I hated the show. It felt like so much wasted time with the episode where they just repaired a boat and did a montage. Also the finale was pretty bad. You can tell that the pandemic changed the plot of the show pretty drastically
@blindsquarel OMG I'm so glad some won has my opinion, that had all sorts of of woke messages in there.
Sad it's not actual physical games. Gamefly could use a rival
I’m convinced those critical of Stadia haven’t tried the service. I’m currently playing Jedi fallen Order via Stadia and it looks and plays fantastic. Xcloud a huge disappointment by comparison
@LavaTwilight honestly, if they don't adopt a different input method, that's really all they'll be capable of doing, if they're trying to include as a "separate genre" on their app's interface.
I wouldn't mind that. I enjoyed Bandersnatch as well as Kimmy Schmidt's interactive thing.
@Ulysses no. Netflix claimed again and again that they could support the Switch, but Nintendo wouldn't open it to them. After the WiiU, Nintendo was just very cautious about customers mistaking the Switch with a mobile device like a tablet or an iPhone and to draw a line, they excluded as many traditional apps as possible. I guess they still let Youtube in, because people could watch games related stuff like walkthroughs and so on (although I never use it for that as its easier to watch a guide on my phone while playing). Also assume they didn't want too many video-apps as the Switch' battery wasn't really made for that. Its OK to have short Youtube Videos playing, but in theory the Switch might only play a movie on Netflix which might hurt the impression users would have from the console.
About this whole topic: According to Apple's current terms, they won't allow a service like this one, just like they don't allow Gamepass or XCloud. Stadia seems to be available and I wonder how that works, as its also breaking the rues, but in any case Netflix might not just be able to throw that App onto iOS like that.
I really don't want what has happened to TV shows and movies to happen to video games because they move onto streaming services. It's not great already that sometimes games are released on only one console so you have to buy a specific console to get a certain game, but at least it's understandable; Nintendo are no doubt terrified that if they were to release their first-party games on their competitors' more performant consoles, consumers would just buy them, and destroy Nintendo's console offering. But if streaming services should take over for games, then everyone would be forced to pay for a subscription for a whole bunch of games they didn't care about just to access the ones they do. Consumers already don't have a lot of power in the video games industry; I don't want to lose what little I have.
Netflix is already getting expensive so good and also, how come every article leads to comments ranting about "wokeness" and "political correctness?" I thought we were discussing games.
I thought we already had video games with minecraft story mode 'InTeRaCtIvE'.
@NIN10DOXD I also thought this was a video game news site. Guess not
The extra cost news came to me today: 20% more, starting in August or September. By doing this, they won't need to charge more for the games. They justified the increase with something in the line of "we're expanding our catalogue and optimizing your experience", but no mention to games, as expected
Nothing is free for NetFlix you must first have a subscription to get anything. And if you don't have a ISP or free or paid wifi forget even having NetFlix for your games. So alot of stuff isn't being told that people should know first.
1. Need Subscription to NetFix
2. Need your own ISP or paid or free wifi if you can find it.
3. Why even have this when you can get Physical or Digital games and play where-ever/when-ever.
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