It feels like it's actually been a good long while since we last sat down and mulled over a Super Smash Bros. Ultimate rumour – likely because the majority that find their way to the internet are completely bogus nonsense – but here's one that might just have something going for it.
A Reddit user going by the name of RiuBert has theorised that the game's second batch of DLC, the 'Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Fighters Pass Vol. 2', could well be getting a bonus seventh character on top of the six slots that have already been promised.
As RiuBert explains in their post, all games, DLCs, and product bundles have a unique code (known as an NSUID) on Nintendo's official website. With the first set of DLC characters, from Piranha Plant to the first Fighters Pass' final addition, Byleth, the DLC codes are ordered chronologically from 70050000008501 to 70050000008506. Following on from that is the bonus Rex Mii costume offered to those who purchase the first Fighters Pass, which ends in '8507'.
(As a heads up, those links will take you to Nintendo's New Zealand site, where NSUID codes are helpfully displayed right within the page's URL).
Now, things get a little more interesting when we look at Fighters Pass Vol. 2. As before, the fighters are listed chronologically (Min Min is 70050000018967, up to Pyra/Mythra at 70050000018970, with '18971' and '18972' reserved for the two unannounced characters). This time, though, the Pass' bonus Ancient Helm + Gear costume reward isn't listed directly afterwards, having an NSUID of 70050000018974, rather than ending with '18973'. Instead, this mysterious '18973' is "currently unavailable". Still with us?
It would appear, then, that Nintendo has something still to be announced following the sixth DLC fighter. Immediate, over-excited thoughts jump to a potential seventh fighter, which could well be true, although it could also relate to an echo fighter, another bonus costume, or something else entirely.
What do you think? Is there something in this? Could you see Nintendo pulling out a surprise character to end things with a bang? Let's avoid getting our hopes up too much in the comments below.
Thanks to Greatsong for the tip!
[source reddit.com]
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I would be surprised if WaLuigi didn't get a slot. Mind you, having a character not get an invite would make for some great ongoing narrative.
I still have a feeling that Sakurai might do one more (smaller) pass.
Marth 2
Doshin the Giant for slot 7
@AlexOlney
Now with two swords!
Unconvinced this is a new character, if only because that would suggest Nintendo had always planned for seven - in that case, why announce six?
Although I’d be happy to be proved wrong. Ultimate has been so popular that it would make a lot of sense to keep the DLC going. Sakurai basically owns my wallet at this point.
I have a uncle who works in Nintendo, and I can tell you for sure it will be a playable Sgt. Al Powell from Die Hard.
If true, cool. If not, that is fine too.
I may not have liked Fighter Pass 2's picks as much as I would of liked, but Sakurai and the Smash Bros dev team have been so dedicated to Ultimate that I feel asking for more just feels bad. They all deserve a break.
Jibanyan for Smash!
A brand-new, unannounced character sounds too good to be true for Nintendo... But it would indeed be a nice suprise, even if it turns out to be an echo. We'll see what happens. All I wish for is that some people will not complain if this new character slot they were never promised is not actually used up.
I think we will get a 3rd fighter pass with 4 echoes based on fighters we've gotten over the last couple years. One for Terry, one for Min Min, and 2 more for the last two characters we haven't seen yet. Then the character select screen will be a perfect rectangle. I think this mystery code could be all 4 echoes in one bundle.
Playable Sakurai
I hope for Travis though I doubt it'll be.
I'm going to guess... echo fighter.
Just give us a third Mario Nintendo, we know you want to
@AlexOlney
Electric Boogaloo
Travis from No More Heroes I believe
Probably was just in case pyra/mytthra would require 2 slots in code like zelda sheik
I wouldn’t expect so.
I thought there were going to show off a new character sigh this will do..
Mr. Sakurai is never going to get to work on any other games for the rest of his career, isn’t he.
Not wanting to poop on things... but what makes people so sure it's another fighter and not just another Mii costume yet to be revealed? There's nothing in the number that indicates what it is.
Jack The Nipper or ‘Big Bertha’ from Renegade
Definitely the guy and the woman from Ring Fit Adventure!!!
I think the last fighter should be none other than Satoru Iwata as a tribute! I think he would love the gesture. He could use various Nintendo hardware like the Wiimote as weapons and of course be wearing his usual dark suit and tie.
Gooigi the Luigi echo fighter. Why did everyone spoil it? It was supposed to be a surprise!
Hm, there being 6 characters rather than 5 in Fighter's Pass 2 already seems like a 'bonus' one, so I don't know if they'll do another one on top of that. If I had to guess, probably something else to celebrate the completion of SSBU (maybe a free mii costume or something - as the article points out, Rex's costume already accounts for one of the IDs, so its not guaranteed to be a fighter) or an extra little reward for people who bought both Fighter's Passes.
If it is a character, then yeah Waluigi seems like a good shout, since he'd be easier to develop (he's unlikely to come with music or a stage, and they can reuse a lot of his assist trophy stuff) and it'd be a nice nod to the community.
@GrailUK
Honestly, they have to make it Waluigi as one final character. It‘d convince me buying SSBU‘s DLCs despite not having played it in at least one and a half years.
How about a target mode while we’re on the topic of smash ultimate?
Definitely Metal Gear Rex.
I think it may be a new mode or expansion to World of Light. Sephiroth Challenge seemed like a lot of work just to be a 5 day event so I think it could be part of a larger mode that's released at the end of the pass.
If there was a seventh slot, my 3 picks would be
Doomguy
Crash
Ryu
That's all I want
Nep when tho???
Watch the fanbase kick off when this doesn't happen.
As a nod to everyone thinking about too many swords in Smash, it will be a Pokemon: Aegislash 😉
I always thought Sakurai would throw in a secret extra character at the end similar to Piranha Plant. My money is on another Kirby rep. (Magolor or Bandana Dee?)
Expecting anything more than what Nintendo have said is just asking for trouble. Nintendo don't do secret characters and they certainly wouldn't put a secret character in a fighters pass that promises a select number of characters
The man
The purple legend
The one and only wah
WALUIGI ENTERS THE STADIUM!
Personally, if Dr. Eggman ends up playable, I only hope that Sakurai will be able to add in Shadow the Hedgehog as a bonus Echo Fighter with Two Spin Dashes (or one of them replaced with Chaos Spear), and Chaos Control replacing the Spring move, and an Explosion effect added to the final blow of Super Shadow, thanks to Chaos Blast. If that happens, I only hope that Dark Pit covers this one in the Palutena's Guidance series from Zelda Universe.
It's a sword. You play as a sword. Probably Excalibur but the Sword of Omens would be kinda cool as it grows and shines a light.
I mean, you can play as a plant, why not a sword? Then Sakurai can fall on his sword and never doing anything SSB again. The end.
If WandaVision has taught me anything at all, don't listen to unsubstantiated rumors. If a 7th fighter happens, great, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
@JonComms I'd settle for playable Master Hand. He's available in World of Light, afterall!
Inagine if Waluigi did closee out the roster. Would that be... On the one hand amazing but on the other not the most almighty climactic possible last ever smash character. Though who could satisfy that? Master Chief?
@RetiredR ah yes, Steve, Terry Bogart, Banjo-Kazooie, Piranha Plant, the main characters from Dragon Quest... all those famous cringe weeb characters.
I wouldn't dare expect anything, but given that they'd advertised six characters and we're being insinuated there'll be seven, I could see a Shadow Fighter being included.
Crash and Coco. That's my guess. If nothing else, they'd have different animations and that's enough reason to separate them from being the same character in different costume slots.
I feel like anyone expecting a full blown secret seventh fighter are just setting themselves up for disappointment.
I think the most likely bonuses we could get are, in order of most to least likely, nothing at all, a Mii costume, a stage, an echo fighter, a fighter with no stage or spirit board, and finally a full fledged challenger pack.
I could maybe see the final fighter having an echo, like say Crash and Coco Bandicoot, as others have suggested.
Personally I'd rather expect nothing and be pleasantly surprised if anything comes of this.
If this is true, I think it will be an echo-fighter or a semi-echo-fighter such as Isabelle or Ike. Dixie Kong would be a nice semi-echo-fighter to Diddy and Dixie kinda deserve to be in Smash. She is one of the last remaining iconic characters that Nintendo owns. I don't think it will be Waluigi, since he is already an assist trophy but Sakurai has broken so many rules now, I wouldn't be surprised if Waluigi could end up as the last character of SSBU.
Waluigi he Deserve to be A Fighter.
another pass, plzzz!!!
@Otherboard Maybe they were truly hoping to surprise players with an unannounced fighter? At least, that would be a really nice treat.
I also want to add (not to you specifically) that I don't think we need to keep being reminded to keep our expectations in check. I mean, I get the intention. It's sound advice. And to be honest, there are gonna be people who are going to run wild with speculation, no matter how much you tell them not to be or how much they've been burned in the past. But the piece (as well as the original post) does point out that this number could be for any type of content other than an actual fighter. So we are being warned. I do like to think most of us, at least on here, are grounded enough to engage in some healthy and fun speculation and discussion.
I’m not expecting much any more. I’ve been pretty disappointed with the dlc choices so far, the only one I really cared for was Hero. Of course when you have corporate members picking the dlc instead of the dev team, this is likely to happen.
@Entrr_username I think it's possible, but I'm not expecting it so I don't get let down over nothing. There's some potential evidence for an additional 3 challenger packs, though:
Am I the only one who wants master kohga in smash?
Please let it be L-shape Tetris or the legendary Paddle from Pong or Earthworm Jim so to promote his new upcoming Intellivision Amico game.
i don't think it's a fighter at all, it's either a bonus mii costume, it's just a error that a number was skipped or it WAS going to be a 3rd party mii costume of a certain Activision|Blizzard character (crash bandicoot) but Nintendo told sakurai to scrap it because they don't want Activision|Blizzard to have any representation in smash do to the scummy and crappy things Activision|Blizzard has been doing over the years especially the lawsuit Activision|Blizzard is currently facing
I mean, the sixth character is the bonus. I wouldn't expect another. The developers needs to rest.
I do think there is an extra content there, the evidence is strong enough, could be fighter, could be something else entirely, but I don't think it will be a bonus for the second fighter pass. Those that bought fighter pass 2 likely wont get this extra thing as part of that pass. It will either be a separate thing you can purchase (like Piranha Plant) or something that will be free for everyone whether you bought the second fighter pass or not.
It can only be the one and only Duke Nukem!!!
@AlexOlney more like Marth 9
This is the kind of article that makes me mad I even come to this site.
You really will publish everything and anything.
@AlexOlney lol Marth squared. Even more Marth than ever before.
cmon Phoenix Wright and Sora !!!
As cool as another fighter would be, I'm hoping it's a stage bundle that brings back stages that didn't make the cut before, like Pyrosphere, or Orbital Gate Assault, Wooly World, Planet Zebes, Rainbow Road, Pac-Maze, Jungle Hijinx, etc.
I've been expecting Waluigi as a free bonus for buying both passes or sold separately like Piranha Plant for months now. This just makes this theory make even more sense.
They announce the final character and while it's a fan favourite and everyone is going nuts for it at some live event down the line, it cuts to Sakurai just after the trailer, who stares dead-eyed into the camera for 10 seconds, then reaches down and puts on a Waluigi hat, then says one word to close out the direct: 'Fine...'
Could be Sora from Kingdom Hearts, maybe they are keeping the slot secretly reserved in case Disney finally gives them a yes. (I sure hope they do!)
@AlexOlney Lucina
It's definitely 100% not not Captain Rainbow.
@clvr and then comments like yours are always in tow, because.... you took an interest too! At least enough to complain.
Nintendo itself doesn’t release official info every day, the website has to. Speculation, interesting rumors—it’s all valid. And if you don’t think so, scroll on by 👋
We need another fighters pass where Sakurai gets to pick the characters and not Nintendo.
...Or we can just be done after the 6th, I doubt there's a hidden 7th pass character here. Maybe another bonus DLC character, though.
...
Cat Goomba.
@GrailUK That would actually be hilarious. He doesn't get invited so he just crasheds the party as the final character haha.
Would be cool to have an extra character. I bought the first fighters pass but haven't purchased the second for two reasons:
1. COVID essentially killed local multiplayer Smash Bros. events for my friend group.
2. None of the characters have really gotten me excited. I don't think they are bad additions at all, they just aren't my personal cups of tea.
Still looking forward to who else we see announced!
Probably a Mii Costume in the shape of BotW's golden Korok turd.
Monster Hunter or bust
@DeathByLasagna I know right. Not wanting to tempt fate, but it didn't sound like WaLuigi was planned when they had already decided on the next lot of fighters. An unexpected gatecrash (with no invite) would be hilarious. Or they could give him one if they catch him Waaa'ing in the background hehe.
It’s going to be the South Park version of Mickey Mouse.
I do hope we get something extra after Fighter Pass 2, and honestly I could care less about it being another fighter though, I'm pretty damn satisfied with all the options we do have in that regard. No what I'd love to see is another mode. If Smash Run was the final bonus mode, I think that would be the absolute best thing they could announce, except maybe a full new Subspace Emissary kind of campaign, but I don't see that being in the cards at all.
@Clyde_Radcliffe but how respectful really is it to punch a dead man in the face?
DOCTOR GOOMBA TOWER
Lou Albano Mario!
I am throwing in:
Bubsy from Bubsy
Wobbufet from Pokemon
Claude from GTA 3
Pinky from Doom 1 and 2
Manila from Godzilla
Petton Everhail from Catacomb 3D
@AlexOlney
Hmm, is that it? Can you think of someting more to say?
Probably a Mii costume. I have often considered if Nintendo might surprise Ultimate fans with another Fighter Pass. We will have to wait, and see.
Still won’t be buying this collection lol
@Azuris : Wobbuffet, as well-known as it is (and I quite like it myself), would be a ridiculous choice for Smash, simply because it doesn't attack of its own accord; it only counters. So unless Sakurai and co. ignore Wobbuffet's canonical moveset and make it so that it can kick/punch etc., it will be horrendously overpowered.
And I would love Pinky (Demon) from DOOM over the protagonist that people keep clamoring for. We already have a space marine in the form of Samus, and plenty of other human characters. I would prefer the Spider Mastermind though.
@rjejr. Pyra and mythra are actual swords
It is probably an Echo fighter of the last character
@Lady_rosalina So you're telling me I'm attracted to swords? What does that make me, a swordsexual? 😂
Wasn't there empty data discovered for a third fighter pass?
@NerdyBoutKirby As far as I know, no - just placeholder slots in World of Light for potential future DLC
DLC speculation at this point is basically some people on YouTube's job. It's straight up free advertising and it helps drive sales. Given the fact that the next console is probably going to be a Switch Plus (one that uses DLSS to get to 4K) this Smash game is probably going to last Nintendo for about ten years.
I suspect if they do release another piece of hardware that's just an upgraded Switch they'll probably wait for a year and a half or so after the DLC for ultimate is finished, then release Smash Ultimate Deluxe which will just have the DLC included. Then a year after that is out they'll release a third wave of DLC.
Or they could just release a third wave of DLC soon. Ultimately I think the sales of fighter pass two are going to be the biggest factor in determining whether or not they do another pass or save additions for the next iteration of Smash that will come out on whatever console follows the upgraded Switch in 7 years.
Octoling.
Until my heart has made its final beat, I will always happily live in the delusion that Professor Layton is in Super Smash Bros.
@1ofUs wow that’s all?
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