Pokémon cards being banned from official tournament events isn't anything new - usually, a card might be deemed illegal if it turns out to be too powerful or if it affects the game in an unfair way - but this new ban is a particularly odd example.
Blaine's Quiz Show, a card from the most recent expansion on the market, Unified Minds, has been banned thanks to the potential complications it could cause when a game's two opponents speak different languages. Here's the card's text:
Put a Pokémon from your hand face down in front of you and tell your opponent the name of an attack it has. Your opponent guesses the name of that Pokémon, and then you reveal it. If your opponent guessed right, they draw 4 cards. If they guessed wrong, you draw 4 cards. Return the Pokémon to your hand.
Now, reading out the card's description and then acting upon it wouldn't usually be too difficult as translators are on hand at World Championship events; the issue actually goes a little deeper than that, as some attack names face quirky changes when translated from one language to another. French player Stéphane Ivanoff noted the issues it could cause online (thanks, PokeBeach), which appears to have resulted in the ban taking place:
"Here’s a simple situation: if I play Blaine’s Quiz Show at Worlds, using a French Pokémon card, should I announce the name of the attack in French or in English?
-> If it’s in French: unless my opponent speaks French, they probably can’t guess the Pokémon. Is this an intended effect of the card?
-> If it’s in English: What if I don’t know the English name of the attack (since my card is in French)? Also, even if I know the name, what if my opponent doesn’t speak English (say it’s a Japanese player)?"If using translators, there is one major issue: attack names don’t always map one-to-one between languages. Here is an example:
Lillipup (BLW 81) and Gliscor (UNB 99) have the same attack Collect. In French, Lillipup’s Collect was translated to 'Collectionner,' and Gliscor’s Collect was translated to 'Collecte.'If I play against a French-speaking player and announce “Collectionner,” they know it can be Lillipup and not Herdier. If I play against an English-speaking player and announce “Collect,” it can be both. This means that doing the exact same game action has different results depending on the language used."
Thanks to the nature of the issue, the card has reportedly been banned from Worlds events only - events unaffected by language barriers are still good to go. Having said that, it would be quite a surprise to see someone using the card in an official tournament anyway - it seems pretty risky to us!
[source pokebeach.com, via uk.ign.com]
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Yeah it's kind of obvious that this kind of card can't be allowed in an international tournament.
Anyone who is at least sort of bilingual should know how language is very rarely directly translated. And names especially don't work that way. Jokes and puns - which Pokemon cards have many of - very rarely translate well, if at all. Usually they have to be totally reworked from one language to another.
This is the sort of quirky news I signed up for. Lovely stuff!
Confusing for internationals, yes,
Fun card to use though.
Haha who would've used this at worlds anyway honestly?
I've always wondered how international TCG battles work. Does everyone use English cards or do they use their own language cards and are the attacks translated for the other?
@sanderev Usually you can use any language. You usually recognize the card by artwork alone. Uf there are discrepancies between different versions of the same card, there is one official version which is binding. At least that is how it is handled for Magic in tournaments.
"Memorize this word in another language for later" Pokemon company is just like "yeaaaaaah no"
it can be hard and unfair in pokemon trading card games.
life is so unfair....is it?
@Mr_Persona quick tell me a pokemon with the move
rods strike
@StableInvadeel
don't you mean lighting rod?
because l never heard of a move called rod strike.
@Mr_Persona It’s tail whip in German (according to google translate)
I guess this means I draw four cards.
@StableInvadeel
i don't play pokemon trading card games, so idc.
The educated player who speaks multiple languages should not be penalized for their opponents illiteracy.
The exact same thing is happening with Hero in Smash, so it's funny that this happened at almost the same time.
(He's not being banned but something is going to have to be figured out if both players speak a different language. Especially if they both want to use Hero. Then one of them won't be able to read their own moves no mater what language you pick!)
@Heavyarms55 I was also thinking of Pokemon names too. Oshawott is terrible. I liked Mijumaru ☺.
I miss that old style artwork.
@J-Plap Drawing 4 cards is a huge boon in any TCG type game.
The restriction isn't too bad either since the likelihood of someone having memorized every attack set on every Pokemon card is extremely unlikely (not to mention you only get the attack name and no other details).
For example, if I said Double Slap it would be very difficult to get the correct answer especially if I were running a colourless deck.
@MrVariant I have a lot of disappointment with that particular Pokemon family. When it was first shown as being themed on a Samurai, I was so excited for a start Pokemon to evolve into Water/fighting or even another water/steel type. Then instead we got just plain water with underwhelming stats, generic ability and the same cookie cutter movepool that a dozen other Pokemon already had. At least Emboar got a good ability and unsual move pool despite being the 3rd fire/fighting in a row. And Serperior's contrary was one of the coolest abilities in the game! Samurott was a joke... Can you tell I am still a little salty?
@ALazyUsername128 I agree wholeheartedly! At this point I only collect the cards, I don't play anymore - mostly because the online client uses that stupid code from physical pack system, and the classic artwork on cards from like gen 1-4 is much more appealing than the more modern cards. Some full art cards are real nice and I really like them - but then you get others that basically look like a rectangle of one color...
I find it funny in the context od Keyforge, where if you don't know the language of your opponent's cards, It's your problem. I know It's a different situation, but nevertheless.
@Heavyarms55
I've never used any of the online services for the tcg myself..was an early player back near the beginning, but pretty much stopped late third gen or so. Think the holon lab/Delta set was the last one I got boosters from. Can remember the early fourth gen sets kind of being flat with cg artwork on a lot of the cards, really haven't been a part of the loop since then.
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