Last December, there was a reported "leak" for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate on the Japanese textboard 5channel, supposedly revealing who the next DLC fighter. This rumour gained traction when a separate part of this leak, by the exact same leaker, was officially confirmed. The same source also revealed more information about Joker's DLC fighter pack at the time, which made reference to the character's stage.
With this in mind, a dataminer by the name of Dr. HyperCake has now found a reference to "Jack_Menentoes_" within Ultimate's game data. This apparently matches certain stage name strings and the above-mentioned rumour. Read about how it all adds up in the below tweet:
If you haven't played Persona 5, Mementos is a stage in the game, so the inclusion of this in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate would make a lot of sense. Joker will arrive before the end of April and is the first of five DLC characters.
What do you make of this latest Smash Bros. Ultimate rumour? Tell us below.
[source resetera.com]
Comments 37
Here it goes again
Don't care about Joker so meh lol
Why do they put these files or name strings into the game so early again? I don't really understand. It seems a little silly to me since they're not in the game yet and I'm sure they're aware of the datamining issue too.
@Yosher I mean, if these "gaming news" sites (and I use that term loosely when it comes to NL) didn't report on it, it wouldn't be a problem, and we wouldn't hear about it as much, but their integrity is in their butt these days.
@nate83km Disagreed. If people datamine it, people will talk about it on forums and such anyway regardless of whether these news sites report on it. It'll be less of a problem yes, but still a problem.
Also you seem to have a problem with NintendoLife in the first place.
@Yosher I feel like these workers put the stage names in there on purpose just to stir online publicity when data-miners discover them. It would be so simple to just put "joker_stage" or something as a place holder.
@wiggleronacid I think this is exactly it. It's no secret that data-miners pry apart every single update that goes out to games these days; I'd wager most AAA developers know exactly what they're doing.
@wiggleronacid I'm not sure if that's really the case. Remember Smash Wii U/3DS? Ryu was datamined a fair amount of time before his official reveal, particularly due to an update containing the Street Fighter 2 victory theme.
@Lizuka Smash Ultimate is full of spoilers though, I don't think that would stop them.
I'll be disappointed if it is Mementos as it's probably the blandest dungeon in the game. Pretty much all of the Palaces are far superior and would make much more sense to have in
A name of a stage from a fighting game is considered “spoiler”? I feel sorry for the persons who will live in the hypersensitive future world.
@Yosher this is Sora and Bandai way of making new announcements and making people salivate at every tiny detail. I highly doubt skilled programmers just leave casual references there just for kicks.
@Yosher because it's a basic stage for a character that is already announced. These aren't state secrets that got leaked.
@nate83km yeah, lets only report on press releases that get put out by the marketing teams. Why are you even on sites like this? Just subscribe to the official news letter
@Kmno I doubt they put this in just to make people salivate at details. Look at my previous comment regarding Ryu as well.
@HumanDog That still doesn't explain why they put it in there ahead of time. Besides they also put stuff in there for as of yet unknown characters (Brave or something) which has since been removed, not to mention my previous Ryu example. It's just weird.
@Yosher it's not weird, they are developing these things on a tight schedule, with updates getting pushed out every few weeks. As a developer i can ensure you there is nothing weird about a reference in the code.
Casino or Mementos are the only logical options.
@Lizuka It's tough - Mementos is probably the most important single area, but also the least interesting visually (unless they do use late-game Mementos). I feel like the best scenario would be some kind of transforming state, a la Pokemon Stadium, that switches between Shibuya and different parts of the Metaverse. But that would be a pretty big ask.
I'm more interested in what they do with Joker's moveset. My guess is his specials will each summon a different persona, maybe to use the 4 different elemental spells like Robin. I'm just not sure who is iconic enough to be included, apart from Jack Frost.
@AlienigenX
It kinda kills the surprise for some people. I'm not a Persona fan, but from what I've read in other forums, there were many better stages than the one in the leak.
However, If I remember correctly, there have been occasions in Smash history where they put a different codename in the files to mess with hackers. So.... who knows?
All we need is Persona (you choose which one) on Switch... the rest I don't really care honestly
Anything further confirming the prior DLC leak is saddening, I have 0 personal attachment to anyone of the other 4 supposed newcomers. I can't believe they really think that many people will get excited about a Ninja Gaiden or Doom rep, and it seems mostly preteen or younger children play Minecraft but maybe I'm wrong there, either way a stack of blocks with a pick axe sounds dreadful, even if they did manage to make a plant great fun.
@HumanDog I'm sure it's not weird if you actually know the reasoning but nobody has explained the actual reasoning to me yet.
@turntSNACO Arsene’s a given, Jack Frost too but his up could be a teleporting move like when you move behind cover in P5. I would say that All-Out Attack is an obvious final smash but those who have played the ending of P5 might say otherwise...
Saw the text after Menentoes was obviously Japanese and tried to decode it to see if that was anything useful. (Was wondering if it was mementoes too)
'b0uÁ0§0Ã0¯0' becomes bytes ?? 62 30 75 C1 30 A7 30 C3 30 AF 30 which is ?田チェック (The first byte was reduced to a dot by the hex viewer, so is unknown)
It probably said 'Jack_Menentoes_成田チェック' in full ('Narita Check', 10 62 30 75...), which sounds like a test name, maybe put in by a programmer in Narita.
@Yosher Well I'm not a developer, but I did programming at college & it's not uncommon to leave tags & notes in code for other people to pick up later.. it speeds up work later on knowing were certain things need to fit.
This is likely where the data strings come from, the real question is why they didn't use more cryptic code names.
@DanteSolablood This is definitely a response that makes a lot more sense, I can imagine it being tough to find your way through all that coding and having to figure out where all the stuff had to go. Thanks very much!
And I guess what they have now is cryptic enough already for them? I dunno.
Even a random skyscraper would be intriguing by applying the Persona black/white/red aestethic to it. Whatever Joker brings to the table, I'll bite.
I... I mean, er, I kind of already did by buying the Pass, anyway.
Do people here actually play all those stages in the original form? It's always Omega form here. Same for items, I only used them in that story mode.
hope its not mementos
Mementos seems to be the most uninspired part of Persona 5. All the other dungeons are much better choices
@HumanDog Yes, I do. I hate turning off all the fun - like stage hazards/movement and items. I play Smash for fun, not super cereal competition
@turntSNACO I'd think they would use Arsene as one of the persona's although most won't use Arsene for long it's one of the more distinguishable ones. I think we can all agree Mara won't be making the cut lol.
@turntSNACO I'm with @dougphisig: they're going to use Arsene in some way for sure. That's the persona that sets the tone for the character. Other than that...who knows? Overall I'm not expecting anything too special out of the moveset.
@nessisonett That would be pretty cool, but my bet is on All Out Attack. It's an easy way to "add" the rest of the Phantom Thieves - similar to Megaman's final smash.
@Lizuka the casino would be spoilers too.
Velvet Room would've been better as representative for the whole Persona series.
It could be a transforming stage. It goes deeper and deeper. The final form being the bottom
I was figuring it was going to be the casino, since that's probably the most prolific dungeon in the game.
It would be neat if the stage starts in Mementos but it transitions between the other palaces.
Persona 5 will eventually come to switch one day.
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