Rumour: DLC Fighter For Smash Bros. Ultimate Leaked On Japanese Textboard

Whatever, I don't even care anymore...

Let me grab my grains of salt from the pile...

But If it is Erdrick, then it's a good retro choice IMO. Not the most recognizable Dragon Quest character (I'd presume the protagonist of DQ8 is more well known), but still a good choice.

But if Square is involved, then they really have to release more than two soundtracks

Man, I need to play DQ series, which game should I play and in which order, any recommendations?

Holy crap

I was thinking literally the other day "Wouldn't it be dope if they added a Dragon Quest Character as a fighter in Smash"

As always, salt will be taken, but I certain won't be upset if this turns out to be true.

I say the more the merrier...

My problem with more Square Enix characters is how stingy they have been with Cloud.
I'm going to be cautious about this one since the DQ licenses are all over the place, with the music alone being owned by its composer.

I'm pretty neutral on this one. I'm not terribly excited, but I'm not upset about the possibility. It does seem a bit lackluster as a SE rep though. I love Dragon Quest, but the protagonists always feel so generic to me.

All that being said. I don't really trust the leak.

I want Geralt of Rivia!

Nice to have Edrick here, he probably won't be release as DLC until Dragon Quest XI's Switch release perhaps.

Finally some Toriyama representation for the people that have been clamouring for Goku or Crono.

@Greator If you're not going to start with #1, then 4, 5, & 6 would be good, as they are a trilogy.

DQ would be a very popular choice. Time will tell.

I honestly don't care about leakers, they are never right and just get lucky guesses.

I mean I wonder if this guy had other posts and then deleted the other ones when Joker was announced and was like "see I guessed it"

I am running out of salt here, even with all these grains of salt I have given everything!

I just hope we eventually get Contra’s Mad Dog & Scorpion!!

If it’s true, then expect a Capcom, Konami and Namco character to go with the Sega and Square ones. Nintendo supporting it’s Japanese partners.

As long as he is using sword, that'd be awesome!

Nice, not a bad choice. I‘m still waiting for 2B, though!

Nah 😂

Although the chance to see him trying to bury Link in that grave for real is an exciting prospect

That would be great, as a huge fan of the series!

I mean, that would be AMAZING if true, but if anything, you'd think it'd be the protagonist of DQ 11, since it is indeed coming to the Switch... eventually...

Female Erdrick huh?

Fake

I honestly doubt this rumor. Considering how little Final Fantasy content is in Smash, with only 2 songs and no spirits, I doubt Square Enix would let another character in Smash. And anyways I'd much prefer Crono from Crono Trigger as DLC.

The characters in game are already perfect so any extra dlc would make it even more great.

Now its a 10/10 for me. When the DLC arrive it will be a 11/10 (super effective)

@MrGawain Since the main game had new Capcom and Konami characters, I think it would be unfair to expect more from them. Namco, in the other hand, seems quite probable. I know they couldn’t get Heihachi to work in Smash 4, but they couldn’t get Ridley to work before, so...

Until tney announce Angela Merkel, I'm not interested.

i take this rumor as a grain of salt.

@Ashunera84 Erdrick is a name bestowed upon the protagonist from DQ3. You can choose a male or female protagonist in that game.

@Trvial maybe not the most recognizable but it would still be possible to be the most "iconic" for the history of the franchise.
The Erdrick trilogy is how the series started and the erdrick equipment and iconography is the most well known the franchise that even other games would often include it even as Easter eggs on a greater frequency than even the more recent Zenithian trilogy.

@mikegamer the soundtrack would depend on sugiyama. He's the one who owns the dragon quest soundtrack ad it's creator.

Though from his reputation I guess the guy wouldn't mind more royalty money anyhow

I’m still waiting for an actually shocking dlc choice like Bayonetta was.

So, the leak came from a Japanese forum and called the character "Erdrick"? Feels off considering his Japanese name is "Loto". Also, a female model of the character doesn't make sense to me. To my knowledge, he was always depicted as male.

The Square Enix character I want is Fei Fong Wong.

Fair if true. Not one of my most wanted characters, but not an awful choice either. I certainly think DQ has enough history to gain a representative in Smash, even if I'm not familiar with the series.

@thatawesomedude Wouldn’t it be ‘Roto’ due to Japanese not having the ‘L’ sound?

@nessisonett You're not wrong. That's indeed a legitimate alternate transliteration.

DQ would be a decent franchise to add to Smash.

Nice to know Square is only doing it to boost brand awareness, despite not localiaing the 3DS release of 11 for that very reason.

@Spectra No one in Japan has likely heard it either because his Japanese name is "Loto".

even if this is true nintendo and sakurai would change the character to someone else because they dont like people spoiling their stuff.

I was pondering Dragon Quest getting a character before this. We'll see but I would rather get Geno.

Awesome if true, but also means I'll actually be paying for at least 1 DLC character, and I wasn't exactly thrilled with the pricing for them.

@Ludovsky Not holding my breath

zzzzzzzzzzz....

No idea who it is, but as long as they bring an interesting and new playstyle, let’s have ‘em!

Not true if they are to reveal a dragon ball charcter my money is on Goku. And it says he has a dodgy track record with leaks so what's the point of nintendo life posting it in the 1st place lol.

This is a great choice and fits with the other guest characters quite nicely.
Dragon quest games on NES were huge sellers in Japan so a representative would make total sense.

@bones

This isn't a dragon ball character, and they will never have Goku in Smash. Get over it.

I don't think I'm going to get the DLC. I already got the game and paid for their online, I'm feeling kinda tapped out.

Well, at least Erdrick's main games have appeared on Nintendo systems, much unlike Cloud and Joker.

The next fighters will be the Chef from Cooking Guide: Can't Decide What To Eat, and Bowling Ball from Wii Sports: Bowling. Moving backwards will cause all other fighters in play to scream in terror.

@AxeltheBuizel Magus could be fun, too.

@personauser0893 i agree and it pisses me off that some people enjoy spoiling stuff for everyone.

@mikegamer heh.
While I won't be surprised to see another character, there's a lot to not be surprised if it's a dragon quest character as well.

A sort of example why would be the wiiu smash DLC. When Capcom decided to add a new character it wasn't a new Megaman character they added but instead they used the occasion to introduce a new IP altogether in the form of street fighter's ryu(which is amusingly the one they decided to flesh out with an echo fighter in the new game rather than flesh out the original megaman ip they first introduced).

In comparison unlike Konami and Capcom who now already both have two showcased IP from their portfolio(megaman and street fighter for Capcom, Metal Gear and Castlevania for Konami), SquareEnix is still only at a single IP being represented in the lone form of Cloud.

And Cloud already being perhaps the most iconic Final Fantasy character(especially of that 7+ "modern" era), it'd be hard to make a DLC that would be as compelling if it was "just another FF character".

Meanwhile, while the series is lesser known worldwide... Japan actually remain probably as huge a market for Smash than the rest of the world combined and Dragon Quest there may actually be an even more visible IP than final fantasy.

So by that choice Square would not only get two fighters representatives in the game, they would get two completely different IPs represented further advertising their nature not just as the developers of a single franchise but as the publishers of multiples ones instead.

Plus even nintendo would get a "visibility win" from a Dragon Quest rep because the nature of localization was such that many dragon quest games(especially remakes) were actually published and localized by nintendo in the west even though they were originally developed by Square(as opposed to final fantasy being near-exclusively published by Square even in some of the late localizations).

So a Dragon Quest representative would be a direct occasion for Nintendo to highlight their own personal history with the franchise(certainly more so than a lot of FF characters who were playstation exclusives).

And it could perhaps be an occasion to market/advertise the Switch ports of Dragon Quest XI or Dragon Quest Builders 2 that are both supposed to be due next year(2019) for the west.

Or even a surprise western localization and Switch port of the 3DS remake collection of the original trilogy which all got released on NES even in the west (unlike final fantasy 2-3 which took many years to get localized via remakes) which would make even more sense if the representative was Erdrick.

It's still a longshot but not necessarily one to be completely handwaved away.

This seems very unlikely. I love Dragon Quest but its main characters are never very memorable or iconic, especially Erdrick in the west. And I fully expect each dlc fighter to be characters that are popular in the west considering they announced Joker at the Game Awards. The protag of 8 or 11 would make more sense and even those I would doubt. Not to mention Square Enix's stinginess and hesitation when it comes to sharing their properties with Nintendo. If it were to be a character from them, it'd likely be someone like Sora or 2B, if anyone at all.

As someone who's a big fan of Dragon Quest 1-3 (some of the earliest RPG's I played), this is exciting for me.

@MH4 if it's anything like standard dragon quest heroes: I would expect sword and shield but bolstered by a lot of magic.

One of the major traits of the hero "class" in dragon quest games has always been that they combined not just solid physical stats, but also very decent spellcasting. Notably they are almost always the only character able to use the "Zap" family of lightning spells and often the only characters able to use the "omniheal" ultimate party-wide healing spell.

Other common spells are the Buff/Kabuff defense boosting family of spells and the often hero-unique "Kaclang" spells that turn either a single character or the whole party into metal which make them unable to move but invulnerable to any attacks for multiple turns(which can be a tactic to exhaust enemy MP, or protect yourself against monsters who have more fixed attack routines when their biggest hitting ability is about to be used).

The series is also known for it's greater emphasis of status effect spells in the the late metagame compared to the more pure damage dealing elemental weakpoints of FF. Examples include Sap/Kasap to lower enemy defense, Oomph/Oomphle to boost your own attack, Snooze for sleep effect, Fuddle for confusion, Expel as a sort of "repel" spell to force weaker enemies out of battle without killing them(the effect is often represented as a gust of wind in some games saying the enemy was "blown away"). There's also the bounce spell which is basically "reflect" and more recent games have often introduced an ultimate move to the hero that's often called either Gigaslash or Gigagash(particularly notable in the "Heroes" spin off that features large scale real time battle in the style of Dynasty Warriors).

That's just to say that even as a character that might look like a more standard sword user from the outside, they could still end up actually closer to Robin in practice especially if that introduce a MP mechanics to limit that spellcasting.

Leaks can only come from two sources.

1. The developer team members
2. The testing team members

Public can't leak something they have no access to so they should look in-house before thinking it was someone else.

@subpopz It actually wasn't JUST the early translations. In the DLC for DQIX, they went back to using "Erdrick" again. So, modern games probably would be more likely to use Erdrick over Loto. It's the fact that he was supposedly called Erdrick on a Japanese forum that got me suspicious.

@UncleJungle I understand your point about the visibility of the franchise but I find ironic that you mention the "stinginess" of Square Enix with their iP because a ton of the dragon quest games were actually published and locations by nintendo themselves for the west.

Like the DS remake of Dragon Quest 4, 5, 6.
The 3DS remakes of VII and VIII.

Even as recently as the Switch, Dragon Quest Builders 1's Switch port was actually localized and published by Nintendo rather than Square themselves in the west. And there's a lot of hint that Dragon Quest Builders 2 might also be Nintendo-published in the west(which has some wondering if the west will even get the PS4 version this time).

If there's any Square IP that has a lot of connections to nintendo out there, it's very much Dragon Quest.

Even the Switch port of XI is only late because it was developed on the Unreal engine, and the version of the engine that supported Switch development was only ready months before the game's Japanese release.

Can't wait to have two songs for that stage!

No Mach Rider, No Deal!

@thatawesomedude it depends if the Japanese actually did use Erdrick or if they instead indeed used "Loto" and people reporting this then decided to simply use the name the west was more familiar name for the west rather than lose time doing "Loto who is actually known as a Erdrick in the west because localization reasons".

More importantly, P5 is indeed on the way (!) (according to the rumor , anyway)

@Paraka sadly knowing Sugiyama that may well be the scenario.

Unless people decided to be generous with royalties for every single songs that might be used of that's the case(the guy actually owns all the music for Dragon Quest as it's composer rather than Square Enix as a very unique case).

This said, while I hate the guy for a lot of personal reasons, he IS quite a celebrity in Japan's game industry so Smash not only featuring a Dragon Quest rep but any tune from him would be quite ...the inventive for anyone to get the DLC in japan.

And like, in japan ...the incentive itself would be so huge that such a DLC would in itself be an incentive for more people to buy Switch consoles exclusively for this(as if it were possible for the console to sell more units in japan but this is the kinds of thing that would succeed to somehow. The IP is that big there)

If this means getting the Dragon Warrior trilogy on NES online, then: yes, please...

DQ is one of the few major non-Nintendo but somewhat Nintendo affiliated franchises left without representation so this would be neat !

Online "leakers" are the equivalent of that kid in grade school whose uncle works at Nintendo and was hell bent on convincing everyone that Sonic was a secret character in Melee.

Dragon Quest in Smash makes perfect sense.

In Japan, the series is huge, and would boost the sales of Smash Ultimate even more.

Outside Japan, the series is unknown and unpopular, but it would do the opposite, millions of Westerners would be introduced to the series and make it more popular in the West, just like Fire Emblem was introduced to Westerners by Smash.

Yeah, so many Smash "leaks" have been proven fake over the past several months, so two handfuls of salt here.

With that said, hopefully P5R is Persona 5 on Switch. In that case, I really hope this is true.

I’ll believe when I see it.

@SuperCesco Don't you mean quadrilogy?

Not impressed if it’s true. Enough with the sword characters

New main if true.

Oh, very sensible choice if true.

We were told Nintendo headquarters was choosing who the characters would be. So obviously politics, PR, marketing and backdoor deals are in play here. Headquarters isn’t going to override the sovereign choice of Sakurai unless the DLC spots are being used as leverage or a tool of barter.

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All 5 DLC characters will likely be advertising a series in lieu of an incoming Switch release. You can bank on Persona 5 coming to Switch, and with Dragon Quest XI on the way, I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if the series also received representation. As for the remaining 3, I guess we’ll just have to wait and see.

To be honest I had wondered how Cloud got in before a DQ rep considering you only need a 3ds and a wiiu (jpn versions) to play the whole series. (Please Nintendo make a 3ds player. My eye would thank you) Granted I am sure the announced FF dump was not something that just happened. I suspect Nintendo allowed him in 4 to help iron out that eventual deal. They didn’t expect wiiu sales to tank so badly.

I will still take this with a grain (read salt shaker) of salt but this would be nice. It does make it seem like no more Nintendo reps as they want to build 3rd party relationships. After all the Marth effect helped save FE. Holding off on persona 5 though.

@Ludovsky
Sorry, I meant stinginess when it comes to Smash Bros in particular. I worded that poorly. I know Dragon Quest has a strong history with Nintendo. Though much of that history is from when DQ was owned by just Enix, before their merger with Square. But you're right in that the series has had much more traction on Nintendo platforms in recent years, but I still feel like this would be a very odd choice. Especially when Joker from P5 kinda shows that series relevancy on Nintendo platforms isn't the biggest deciding factor at play here. I think overall character relevancy and business politics make more sense. But idk for sure, I'm interested to see who comes next either way.

I like that they’ve included the franchise but it’s not one I know about. Googling the character he looks like Link or half the Fire Emblem characters, what does he do that’s unique? I hope he has a unique twist : )

I do hope the next 3 are Nintendo owned characters though. There are still so many great characters they own in IPs not yet with a fighter on the roster that would be an amazing fit.

As far as the Square Enix rep goes, I was personally hoping for Geno but I understand why they wouldn't go with him since he isn't relevant anymore. Its just sad that a cool character like that is just sitting collecting dust because Square aren't wanting to play nice with Nintendo. But Im a huge fan of Dragon Quest so I'm happy with this

I don’t know why anyone would believe another Smash leak after the last one.

Maybe I would have prefer the character from Dragon Quest XI, but Erdrick is the only one who have a name, so it's alright
I've always wanted some Dragon Quest representation, it's not because Dragon Quest is not that recognised in Western territories that we can't have it, we shouldn't forget that around here people prefer Final Fantasy way more than Dragon Quest, so it does make sense, the game is meant for everyone

sitting in the corner hoping the DQ rep is Slime

If this does turn out to be true though, what will series' emblem? Will it be the symbol from the shield, or a silhouette of a slime?

I dig this, as I am a huge DQ fan back to the first game when I was like 9, but for the first two dlc characters to be from JRPGs seems a bit short sited. While Persona and especially DQ are Rockstars in Japan, most western gamers don’t share my love for the series. I think some mega man characters or More LOZ or even Skyrim or Doom or Diablo characters if you want to go 3rd party switch would be a little more universally accepted.

@Ludovsky - Not knocking the choice of DLC (Maybe just for the fact it's another third party), just that Square has a decent track record of... Being handsy of their property.

I know fully well why a DQ character would be chosen, I would have simply wagered on Jessica (due to her own popularity) as opposed to Erdrick, who was the face that cemented the series into to what it is now. He's the DQ Pikachu.

Really interested in how well Persona and DQ will expand in the west with them around in SMash. Surely they'll have a similar effect as Fire Emblem received when Marth and Roy were a thing.

honestly, how has a Dragon Quest hero not have been included with all the 3rd party fighters? if only Wart somehow got tossed into the game next

Slime would be my top DQ choice, but I'd still flip a nip for Erdrick. DQ absolutely has to be in Smash at this point and I'd hate if they pass it up entirely after the DLC releases.

@Luigi_Skywalker If they had to put another LOZ character in there, one of the Champions from Breath of the Wild would have been an inspired entry. My pick would be Urbosa. She’s my favorite new character to the series

@Greator If you play one Dragon Quest game then that will be enough for awhile. This is because a lot of them are very traditional and the fighting system takes time. However, I hear the newer ones have improved this somewhat. If you want a very good traditional Dragon Quest game then try 8 (VIII) which is on the PS store, 3DS, and PS2. If you want the new version then try XI for PS4. A Switch version is said to be coming soon.

@RadoGoji good to know then. Just thought Erdrick was always male due to all the other references in the other games implying male, and none of the ones I've played having an option. It would be strange, though, with how protective Square is of all of their content.

Coincidentally, my Japanese coworker and I were just discussing possibilities for the remaining 4 DLC charas. He said a DQ hero would be a logical choice, being probably the all-time best selling series in Japan. Maybe he's right!
I'm indifferent as I haven't played a single DraQue game. I was hoping for Arthur from Ghosts & Goblins, or maybe Bionic Commando, Capt. Toad, Dirk the Daring or Space Ace! 😄
I really doubt Nintendo will squander the DLC on obscure niche charas, though - more likely we'll see more AAA choices a la Cloud, Bayonetta, and Joker.

Let’s be honest, this sounds realistic regarding the Persona 5 games, but Mementos being the stage sounds a little to uncreative for Sakurai. It’s the least imaginative dungeon in that entire game unless you are talking about the depths if you go for the true ending.

Great, more trash.

@shoeses I’m not sure I’d call one the biggest franchises in Japan trash.

Talk about an uninspired pick. As if we needed yet another fantasy sword user.

If Square Enix brings anybody else, it's gotta be Crono. Just GIVE ME CRONO.

@Spectra No one heard of Marth until Melee. No one cared about Lucas until Brawl.

DQ might not be reputable a franchise overseas save for a couple titles (but mostly VIII) and Erdrick might not be the rep we know, but they're the rep the series has and needs.

What the DQ fanbase lacks in size, it more than makes up for in recognition. Not that I believe this, but if this is real, you best believe another big series announcement would be alongside it. Smash is a celebration of gaming history, after all. I'd gladly welcome this if it's true~

@Spectra Lol, No one knew who Roy was but he was in Melee. That kind of thing has never stopped them.

@Greator It's such a great series. 1-3 are a trilogy of sorts, as is 4-6. 7, 8, 9 and 11 are stand alone, and 10 is a Japanese only MMO (for now). In terms of which one to start with, 1is awesome but VERY retro and quite grindy. 4 is great as well and by that time has a lot of the series' established iconic bits. 7 is good but very long and if you don't want to beat your head against a wall, the DS version is the way to go. 8 is awesome and many fan's favorite, I know a lot who were drawn in by this entry. 9 is sort of weird and divisive, a lot of online elements that sort of changed the game, but it has it's fans. XI was, IMHO, the best game I have played in a while and definitely my GotY.

Now that I think about it - it would be kinda cool to have someone from the Yokai watch series in Smash. Either Jibanyan himself or Nate/Keita. I forget, did the anime come first or was it the games? I hope it was the games, anyway. Because seeing some Yokai Watch love might encourage Level 5 to bring Yokai Watch 4 over to the west muuuuch quicker.

@UncleJungle heh persona's possibly a bit of a stretch but on the other end the character did appear in a somewhat visible 3ds game and persona's Shin Megami Tensei sister series have established a rather solid presence on nintendo consoles in recent years(both SMT 4 titles have been 3DS games and Shin Megami Tensei 5 will be similarly a Switch exclusives if I recall well).

That's still more of a presence than mainstay final fantasy titles since 7. I know we're getting a bunch of remakes next years but it's only likely only that much because it's literally been literally been 9 generations of numbered final fantasy games being non playable on nintendo consoles that they have to catch up on.

@Ogbert well the classical archetype of a Dragon Quest hero is not just a swordfighter but also very much a spellcaster. And unlike final fantasy where a lot of main characters could still learn a somewhat freeform selection of spells, traditional dragon quest games had different spell lists for each spellcasting characters.

Notably the dragon quest heroes often have access to many spells exclusive to them, both in the healing and attack spells categories. Notable is the Zap family of lightning spells and Omniheal, the game's ultimate but mp-guzzling healing spell, are exclusive to the main hero. Other notable ones include kaclang(which turn characters to metal rendering then invulnerable for many turns but being unable to move for the duration of such).

Otherwise the hero is one of the different characters that can also often learn the Buff family of defense buffing spells, fire attack spells of the Frizz(for single targets) and Sizz(for groups) family of spells as well as being one of the few classes able to cast the fast travel Zoom spell(traditionally the only other classes are the Wizard and Sages, and Sages only do because their whole trick is being able to cast both wizards and priests spells).

@Paraka mind you Dragon Quest is not a certainty. After all it's rumored that Square Enix specifically dispersed a variety of names across the company specifically to try and track where leaks might have come from.

This said there's still a lot of reasons to believes Dragon Quest remains a strong contender since it would further establish Square as a publisher of multiple IP and cater to their massive fanbase for this specific IP in Japan which remains a strong market for Square. Meanwhile Smash would be the perfect vehicle to get the IP better known

@Heavyarms55 like people go "but X franchise lacks worldwide appeal" as if Japan wasn't a super huge market for them in first place.

Dragon Quest in Smash wouldn't just sell the DLC in japan. It'd somehow find a way to sell even more Switch in Japan but itself alone.

@Ludovsky I would go a step further and suggest that people are underestimating the appeal of Dragon Quest. It's not big in the west, but it is hardly unknown. There will always be the naysayers who want characters A, B and C in Smash... I mean I want some real Xenoblade 2 representation... but we have to understand, there are only so many slots in the game and someday Sakurai does need to sleep. I suspect it's been a few years since he last did that.

@Ludovsky - Well of course it's not a certainty. I only spoke as if we're in the situation it already was. If anything, the more we peel back what would make DQ something to consider, more reasons we'd likely see why it could be a potential thing.

@Heavyarms55 - Xeno2 just had poor timing, Sakurai was already well established in what the roster was going to be before he probably saw why its contents of the new game was. Likely he wanted to do something, and mapping out a pre-determined model with a skin and throw in a few stickers was likely the easiest way to do it.

Ultimately the "slots" were already established before the art for SSBU was even being implemented.

Of course, I'm drinking with Capt. Falcon in our little lonely hovel in Smash for some time now. It's likely it'll not change anytime soon.

@Paraka Oh I totally know why we don't have a XC2 character and consider Sakurai's reasoning totally just. That doesn't stop me from hoping one of the DLC characters is from XC2.

@Heavyarms55 yeah. Plus something tell me the dlcs will be more used to showcase both new third party IPs to the franchise and new first parties characters from upcoming IPs for Nintendo.

So far a trend I noticed from third parties in Smash has been to introduce new IPs over new fighters in an already represented IP, considering the wiiU era Capcom DLC introduced SF's Ryu rather than adding new Megaman characters, whereas Konami added Castlevania fighters in the new Smash rather than more Metal Gear).

Meanwhile when they were done bringing back old fighters in the WiiU DLCs, nintendo instead added Corrin from one of it's most recent Fire Emblems games. I would not be surprised for one of next year's DLC to specifically come from the new Fire Emblem game that will release in 2019 as well.

Which despite all the expected groan might still end up surprising people since, of you look at it, the last two(non clone) fire Emblem characters very much bucked the traditional swordfighter trend by having Robin being more of a warrior mage and the fire emblem dlc on wiiu featuring a dragon shapeshifter Corrin.

@Kevember wait for the fire Emblem game and I bet you there will be a Nintendo announcement

@Heavyarms55 - Honestly, would prefer Xenoblade 2 and FE characters over more third party.

Not being a purist, just... It's more likely Nintendo reps return in a Nintendo game than a third party would.

I sure hope so. We need a Dragon Quest rep in Smash, and the only real choices are Erdrick (male or female options), Dragon Quest XI character, or Slime.

Dragon Quest at this point has earned a rep, i'd be down.

@Paraka Whether the game is 1st or 3rd party is over little importance to me. I am more interested in the quality.

I want the rabbit from 3DS Mii Plaza.

@ThatNyteDaez The games came first. The anime is just a parody/comedy/skit show that is (extremely) loosely based on the source material and really has no plot whatsoever. I know there's a manga and even a comic version, though I'm not sure whether those two follow the games more closely.

Considering how large of a franchise DQ is in Japan and its Nintendo history, this makes sense. So given the Blast Corps spirit/Rare data, the Nintendo/Minecraft endeavor, Thursday's suspiciously-whopping 2 hour No More Heroes show, and the text leaker/Vergeben being vocal about another SE rep, the potential DLC list looks like:
Joker, Banjo-Kazooie, Steve, Travis, Erdrick

But then that leaves out Goku and Monster Hunter. Two wildly more popular choices. I'd love to talk up Shantae, but given Joker, it looks like Spirits mean Deconfirmation. Daisy could be butt-bumping female leads from Minecraft, DQ, or MH.

@thatawesomedude Yeah, sorry: my bad...

@Ichiyama mii fighters are still in the game so you could just make a mii of her and put her in the game. So you interested now?

@BlackenedHalo Then go play Soul Calibur 6
Geralt is a book character first, not a game character. And none of the Witcher games were ever on a Nintendo system.

No, what Smash needs is DOOM SLAYER to RIP N TEAR

@Sanya_Claus wait, why not? just because the online is bad?

@Ludovsky Cool thanks for explaining! Sounds like he might be a sort of Robin & Shulk mash-up if ture? That could be cool

I’ve never played Dragon Quest, but i’d be cool with it. Just as long as no DLC is a Fire Emblem character. Hope the P5 release on switch turns out to be true

@SmaggTheSmug After all the ports Bethesda deserves some love ! Either doomslayer or Dragonborn

@Kevember as a consolation, with the promise that no DLC characters will be echo fighters and Smash Ultimate, whole deal of having brought everybody back(so stuff like Roy dlc won't happen since he's already in), a Fire Emblem character might still surprise us by being something closer to Robin than Marth's industrial grade collective cloning vat.

So a spellcaster, a spear user or even an archer or anything else are possibilities now.
Like even if Corrin was a "swordfighter" their dragon shapeshifter abilities really stretched the envelope.

@Whalehome hey if Fire Emblem happens at least we now know that Marth's industrial grade cloning vat will be finally shut down this time around thanks to the promise of no echo fighters in the paid fighters pass.

So that actually increases the possibility of another Robin moving away from the pure swordfighter envelope.

That might even means something like a pure spellcaster, spear user or even an archer/etc.

I said I wasn't going to click on "leak" articles anymore, and here I am. Now I'll be underwhelmed if this turns out to be official. Thanks, Internet...

I mean, I wasn't expecting Geno or Sora. Am I the only one who wanted slime instead of a normal generic hero?

@siavm Good thought, dawg.

Um, the more important story here is that Persona 5 is coming to switch.

Totally fine by me. So long as the new Square fighter is anyone but Sora or any other KH character, and I'll be more than OK with it. Sure, it'd be nice to see Geno, Neku, or Chrono instead, but Dragon Quest is a huge series, and it does make a lot of sense for a character from it to finally come to Smash. Plus maybe this will help appease those demanding the likes of Goku in Smash, considering he was both never gonna happen, and that Erdrick was also designed by Akira Toriyama (of course Chrono could have fit the billing in that regard as well).

@NIN10DOXD Guess I should clarify that I don't think it's a trash series, just a trash pick for Smash. Doubt that changes anything with most people, but eh.

@Greator hah. Good luck! There are so many of them and each one is pretty good! I haven’t finished any as they’re too long and game playing is but a minor part of my life. 8 might be the most fun one I’ve played, though.

@SmaggTheSmug Geralt is a book character, but since 2007 even a game character and one of the best

They should add that roller skate kid from Steets of Rage 2