Video: Resident Evil 7 Cloud Brings Both Good and Bad to Nintendo Switch

...that is, if you got good Connection!

It is the stupidest thing ever, it's lazy and impractical, crapcom are meh anyway, they used to be great but got worse over the last 10 years ... I defo won't be doing this cloud dribble

I wouldn't touch this unless they start loading multiple games onto the one "pass". Obviously would prefer non-streaming options

When OnLive went off air it took my 3 games with it (no refunds) You could buy "steam games" that you could stream at "full settings" on a tablet.

But it worked just like Nvidia shield... Once the internet dipped the game became more compressed. Sure, it at "full settings" at the server end. But at your end it depends on your connection at home.

This makes even less sense on a handheld.There is a reason why Spotify and Netflix let you download your content and play it off the hardware also.

I absolutely hate the idea of this. While I think it would be cool to have this game on switch, I don’t think this is the way to do it. What happens when the “service” goes offline? You lose everything. I hope this fails really badly so that CapCom doesn’t think of doing something as horrible as this ever again.

The only way this would make sense to me is if it would download a chapter of the game at a time for play, and if you were away from an internet hotspot, you could still play the amount currently downloaded until you got to another internet hotspot. Kind of like... Episodic gameplay, almost.

I'm glad to see them doing this, as far as I can tell it's a first on Switch, but other than the name - nice they call it "Cloud" so you know what you are paying for - and "proof of concept" it seems pretty poor in the execution.

15 minute demo is stupid. That isn't a demo, it's a commercial. 1 hour minimum, anybody who suggested anything less should be fired. Anybody who ok'd it should be blacklisted from the industry.
Price is too high to rent one game.
Time limit is too short for the price.

For everybody saying "this is stupid on a portable" well Switch isn't a portable, it's a tribrid, part of which is a home console, and my home console Switch has a wired internet connection.

$5, 1 hour demo, live for a year. And advertise it as a rental, the industry should be used to that word, PS+ has been renting games for many years now but nobody ever calls it that. EA has Access, MS has Gamepass. This is the future, digital rentals. Streaming sucks though, if they are going to charge this much it should be a download. PS Now isn't cheap, but it's a whole lot better than this.

Personally I think this is a good way to get games on Switch that it probably won't be able to run and ultimately these would likely become Netflix style services for games. People worried about games disappearing but that won't happen as much as you'd like to believe, they will want to keep them to make the packages as attractive as possible. Yes there are some potential negatives, however some of them are just things we assume could happen, the biggest tangible issue is input lag and performance.

On the flip side there are a lot of potential benefits such as games we wouldn't normally get, storage space no longer an issue and potentially cheaper overall. Lets see how this experiment goes before declaring it to be so bad.

Stop cloud gaming and stop it now

It's an interesting solution to a problem that never existed in the first place.

They could easily get this to run off the switch without having to stream it. But I guess they got this idea of a renting system down the line.

Would probably only play at home as its a dark game and not easy to play on the go!

@alex Is phantasy star online a cloud game?

I downloaded Phantasy Star Online 2 Cloud last week since it's a free download on Japanese eShop. Didn't connect with me that the word "cloud" actually means that it's streaming the game. I didn't have time to try it earlier but got curious now that Resident Evil is doing the same thing. I got an error while trying to play PSO2 but I saw it trying to stream the game in the background. It was very much unplayable. I'm not an expert when it comes to this stuff so I would like to know how well it runs in Japan. Also, not a horror fan so I probably wouldn't have gotten Resident Evil even if it were a normal physical/digital release.

@Late was the error due to not being in the same region?

I DON'T WANT MY GAMES AS A SERVICE!!!

Bad thing, at least for the Switch as it defeats the purpose of the device: 'any time, anywhere with anyone'.
Also it rents you a game, something that for many is not ideal as, normally, people prefer to collect games.

Only Capcom would be gutsy enough to try and bring back the Sega Channel.

I really hope enough people have enough common sense not to support this. Port it right, or don't do it at all.

I'm usually one for seing both sides of an argument, but... how could there possibly be anything good about this?

@Lord I don't know. The error message was in Japanese and I was too lazy to search for translation. I saw how badly it was running anyways so I quit.

Well... don’t like that.

Not for me

@Yorumi

Absolutely. And worse, this is only available for 180 days, that's not a very long time. People who like this idea need to wake up and understand this is a very slippery slope. If this gets traction, there's no going back.

I like some of Capcom´s IPs and when there´s a reason to be optimistic, I am. But this is just.....wrong. There´s no reason to get this version over any other one. Since it´s streamed, you can´t take it with you anywhere like other games. I think the idea has a potential. Imagine that there would be a real, traditional, but graphically inferior port of this game. You could play the game normally or by paying an extra fee, you could use the cloud streaming service and get the aesthetically best version (with higher resolution, better framerate and textures,...). That way, ports like this could earn these companies more money as many TV Mode players who have access to a good internet connection would likely pay for the service to get the best experience possible. However, releasing Resident Evil like this will probably make many people unhappy (it already is, look at the official video of the announcement), because portable gaming is a big thing in Japan and by not giving people the option to play a certain game portably (which, by the way, is the main selling point of the console), people will lose interest and not buy the product.

I think the reason to stream gaming is to block piracy. So that way people all are forced to get subscription. Welcome to new age. Capcom made their movement. It will be like Netflix service in future. Mark my word

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, this is the future. And devs and publishers will try to dictate how that future works and it is will obviously be with their benefit in mind. It’ll be up to consumers to determine how that future shakes out. Personally, I’m all for a peaceful coexistence of digital and physical media. But I’m also realistic on how the market can work.

@Yorumi Are we operating in "what ifs" or reality?

The biggest problem for me is that if this kind of thing becomes popular you'll be paying an individual rental fee for each game for a limited only time, which I just hate the idea of. If this were a single-fee digital subscription service where you got access to hundreds of games as part of the service and for as long as you were subscribed to the service, like Netflix does with films/TV, then that would fine imo--but this is definitely not that. And I shudder to think that some people will actually consider it reasonable that they'll be asked to pay for rental of every single game individually for a limited time with literally no ownership at all. It's like taking a trip back in time to what it was like with Blockbusters with video rentals, but at least that kinda made sense for its time and was pretty cheap to just rent a film for a couple of days. This, however, just seems absurd in a time of services like Netflix and Amazon Prime imo. Man, in the future we're going to own nothing!

This comments sections resembles a DVD forum circa 2010.

"But I won't own the box sets"
"They can just decide to remove content at any time"
"Consumer rights blah blah blah"

When a company suddenly does a Netflix and provides a high quality, reliable and value for money service then streaming will forever change the way we play games.

I often spend £40 on a game and play it for two hours. What's the point? I'd rather be able to jump in and out of different experiences, sticking with the ones I enjoy.

Streaming is coming, we're not there yet but fighting the inevitable seems a bit daft.

@UmbreonsPapa bring it on! Are you really nostalgic about paying £30 for one series of a TV show as a box set?

Streaming is a million times better than that. And it could be the same for games.

@jaglufc That [physical] game you spent $40 on that you played for a few hours . . . you could sell that and get quite a bit of your money back. With current digital games at least you own them for as long as you have the system/service so you still have a choice to play them again whenever you want, and they're even starting to look into a model where consumers can sell on their digital games for a small amount of money back. But this thing that Capcom is offering is you paying to have access to a single game for half a year and then after that you literally have noting. If we didn't know better we might think that were a good deal for us--but we do know better.

@impurekind The ownership and resale arguments were made with DVDs.

In reality consumers don't want the hassle and clutter. But it took someone offering excellent content at an accessible price point to really win people over.

As soon as someone does that then it's game over.

@jaglufc I agree, which is exactly why this particular RE7 example is terrible in its current form as far as I'm concerned.

Well, that's it. After download codes in a "physical" collection of RE Revelations, now you don't get to "own" the game AT ALL. Not a cartridge, not a card with a download code, not even the digital code itself. Oh, and on-the-go gaming, anytime, anywhere? Who wants that, right?
Admittedly, at, say, €10 a month for a vast catalog of games from different genres, developers,... I might consider.

Actually disgusting

@Yorumi Ok do you mind elaborating on why it shouldn't be compared to netflix? As the comparison seems perfectly logical to me. Both industries have streaming, digital, and physical aspects to their business model.

@Yorumi Like I said, consumers will determine how this all shakes out. You will get a Capcom or a Ubisoft (just for hypotheticals) who think they can get away with a streaming, one rental at a time deal with no benefit to customers. You’ll have others who will capitalize on that mistake and have, as some pointed out, a Netflix style setup that gives you more bang for your buck and softens the blow of any pitfalls that might come with streaming

Meh decision, terrible idea, by the time people actually are interested the game will be gone from the service anyways and the ones who aren't interested already got their filled with the PC version. A big waste of time, money, and resource that isn't worth anything. Old game, inferior service, and weak practice will killed this from day one.

If RE7 comes to Switch in the West, it better not be like this! I feel so bad for Japanese Switch owners right now. Why isn't Capcom just content with a regular retail/digital release?

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I'm not averse to the idea in general (and spare me the consumer rights talk, I have to condition myself to tolerate "consumer" and "fiction" in the same sentence as it is), but this deal doesn't gel with my gaming habits and abilities personally either. Switch's native resolution is proving beyond the current streaming prowess of the local LTE, so between the actually manageable 540p and getting a digital copy to access at my own pace (yeah, and at Remote Play's darned mercy, but still)... yeah, RE7 would be a crazy rare case of a multiplat I'd prefer on PS4. I didn't really buy a Switch to stream games.

Frankly, whether it'll ever get localised is a bigger question. Japan sees these experiments growing and finding support because their online services are more up to snuff. Hence all these RE7s, DQXs, PSO2s... all while Sony's been struggling to make PS Now a hot topic in the west for years now. Game streaming subscriptions still seem to be largely ahead of their time tech-wise, regardless of what we think of them business-wise.

@impurekind I genuinely can't understand how paying £13 for a game which would surely cost over £40 on a cart is a "terrible deal".

The majority of consumers would finish this game in a couple of weeks and never touch it again. The cart itself would easily depreciate that much in that time.

£13 seems cheap compared to what AAA games cost now.

I think a good example of how this can become a slippery slope can be explained like this. I have an Amazon Prime account. Amazon Prime does not include just one service, but one of which is you get music. Prime was awesome because I had an Echo and I could play pretty much whatever I wanted, whenever I wanted. If you've kept up, Amazon moved much of the Prime music library to yet another subscription service called Amazon Unlimited. So now if I want to listen to anything other than "samples" I need yet another subscription for the subscription I already have. See, that's the problem you're going to eventually have. Who's to say Capcom makes one streaming service? Maybe there's a stream for some content, but then there's a stream of Megaman games, a stream of Monster Hunter, a stream of Resident Evil oh and that's an extra $10 a month, please and thank you.

@MoonKnight7 the real problem is people who expect to access pretty much every song ever written alongside literally hundreds of TV shows and films for £6 a month.

@jimi no it is not the same. sony gave everyone the time to download everything they owned and re authenticated it so the server was no longer needed.

This is the same set up Steam has said it will use if they ever disappeared. What Sony said was that you can no longer store your games on their servers for future download. You can simply backed up your Vita games on your PS3 Or leave them on the card

When you stream and they go down you loose everything. There is nothing to download. OnLive gave me no chance to do anything. Basically they emailed a FAQ and informed us that prior purchase were gone.

@jimi I have no idea why you place so much important on owning a piece of plastic. I remember before streaming when new albums were £16 standard.

Now I have access to pretty much every song ever written for a few quid a month.

It's immeasurably better. And it will come to gaming eventually.

@Yorumi tbh th current system is a joke in so many ways.

Literally hundreds of millions of people are expected to routinely buy new miniature PCs in small plastic boxes every five years. These invariably end up in landfill eventually. Even worse that, if you want to play all the best games you need three different boxes in your house. Again, all with their own online subs.

A truly hardware decoupled experience where you pay a flat fee for remote access to every game would be so much better than the status quo. Or even mutliple competing services like we see with film and TV now.

Because you lot seem to love having ten consoles all linked up to one Tele. I'd actually prefer to be able to legally jump from Super Metroid to Halo to whatever.

@jaglufc

I never said any song ever written (I don't appreciate you putting words in my mouth). They just had a lot of what I liked whether that's coincidence or not. But it was something I used often, and is now utterly useless to me. Oh and don't get me started on Prime's movie selection, it's trash and you know it. They'll take that away too, mark my words.

Oh, but I, the selfish consumer can have access to just about every song, but that's an extra 8 bucks on the subscription I have already, until they decide on how to break that apart yet again.

@MoonKnight7 The current state of music streaming services means there's so much choice and competition that I cannot at all understand anyone complaining about paying a few quid for it.

@jimi I dunno mate, I am not particularly materialistic. I'm into games for the fun and the experiences.

I think the digital movement has been fantastic in so many ways.

It has made retro titles available and accessible to new generations. It has allowed people to play previously rare and expensive games affordably. It has allowed smaller developers to access consumers without the expense of publishing in physical form.

It's easy to think that the 'old' system of spending £300 every few years for a new black box under the tele is perfect. I don't think it is and I think that the current Netflix/Prime/Iplayer services are far better than the old DVD box set system of a decade ago.

why are people assuming that you will be able to play it from outside of japan? it might well be IP locked to japan, just like PSO2 cloud ver. also, even if it's not ip locked the experience won't be great streaming from servers in japan to america/europe...so don't complain if it doesn't run well outside of japan.

@Yorumi I literally own about fifteen consoles. I am a normal bloke though and there's no way I'm getting away with having all fifteen set up simultaneously.

So inevitably some of them sit gathering dust and don't get played.

I'd love a monthly streaming service where I could access every game ever made for a set fee a month. I wouldn't be losing any 'rights' because I'd be fully aware that I only have access for that period. And if they made the service worse I'd leave and find a better one.

@jaglufc

I don't know why I'm wasting my time, (I've got selfish things to do today too) but you've completely missed the point. Prime was this, and now it's this. That is my point The rules can change at any moment, and there's really nothing you can do about it.

Who's to say Capcom makes a streaming service, then down the line they take titles X, Y and Z away but they are their own service now. You don't see a problem with that? I guess we see things very differently.

@MoonKnight7 It's a strange argument you're making. Yes Prime changed (because they actually added a lot more songs and it became unfeasible to offer at that price) but you didn't lose out really.

You had access for the time you had it and now you're free to switch to any of the other excellent streaming services in a very competitive market place.

I think this could work for an MMO with constantly updated content--a few of them require monthly fees anyway. But for a limited experience game like RE7? It's the ultimate goal of the games-as-a-service push and I'm not interested.

Well, I wasn't interested in playing RE7 anyway. But Phantasy Star Online 2 is another matter.

@jaglufc

When Capcom owns Resident Evil, and I want to play Resident Evil, remind me again what kind of bargaining power I have if I want to just "switch to another excellent streaming service?"

@jaglufc The problem isn't about the majority of casual noobs out there who don't see the problem because they don't really know any better.

Paying $20 for a single game I will never really own and will never be able to play again only half a year down the line either is a problem for me, and I expect quite a few people like me.

If I'd went out an bought a SNES game for 20 quid many years ago I'd still own it now and be able to play it whenever I wanted (and there's many SNES games I play every now and then even today), and I'd even be able to give it to my siblings/kids or just sell if on for a few bucks if I were skint and in need of cash.

The world is different now and the things we're having to sacrifice for really only "convenience" often don't sit right with me. And I know a lot of people feel similarly--rightly so imo.

@MoonKnight7 Yeah and that's a problem faced by us all currently with Game of Thrones and Sky. But there'll be competing services and the market will find a way or people just won't pay.

The current system doesn't exactly work brilliantly for me considering I own a PS4 and a Switch but quite like Halo...

@jimi You're arguments are bordering on tinfoil hat lunacy.

Disks are a technology of the past. Expecting future consoles to have have DVD rom drives to allow backwards compatibility is like expecting a PS2 to have a floppy disk dirve.

REVII is the worst-selling mainline RE game ever in Japan by a wide margin. I don't understand why Capcom thinks stealth-releasing a cloud rental version of the game exclusively for Japan is a great idea, but Capcom will Cacpcom I guess...

@impurekind Most people don't see games as investments. They wanna watch top TV shows instantly, enjoying the experience.

Netflix achieves this and at an excellent price point due to the worldwide market they've generated.

There's no reason this can't be replicated as soon as the technology allows it. And it will.

How is this any different from going to a cinema to watch the latest movie for $15 ?
You don't own that viewing you just had, yet you don't complain about spending the money - unless of course you didn't enjoy the film. THIS IS THE SAME!

I think as long as the costs are reasonable and the streaming capabilities can keep up with latency, this will be completely fine in the future.

Physical media is a thing of the past, folks. It's only a matter of time before consoles all become fully fledged streaming devices. This thing Capcom is doing will test the waters. If it fails, then we know it's too soon to work out. But eventually, Netflix for games (or Games On Demand(NOWtendo? Lol)) will be the norm.

@jimi you have your Vita fixed. They took off the DRM from the service you just linked... And Sony was not the publisher of any of those games on Playstation Mobile. So your claim that they cant as a general rule is wrong.

That is the standard license agreement Sony uses for everything. Box, download... It is clarified on the first paragraph

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/legal/softwarelicense/

All PS software is a "license"... Even the one you get on a disk.

And that license agreement would have applied to Playstation Mobile! And in the end of the day SONY still found a way to let you keep the "Licensed" software after the server went down.

You can find it in archive... It reads exactly the same way.

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/legal/mobile-eula-us/archive/

@rjejr but what about the portable part? Your saying that we take the Switch and eliminate one of the reasons it's so successful? That doesn't make sense to me...

I'm pretty much in the camp of this is a bad idea but for the major reason of how quickly the gaming industry takes on new things and #@$! consumers over.

A streaming service itself isn't bad per-se but it would quickly become the only option. I can still buy dvds etc.

Also,how often do you rewatch a film or series compared to replaying a game?

Guess it's dependant on each person.
But it's all about future choice.
I currently think there's too much online dependance and splitscreen abandoning as it is lol.

@jimi I can still use all my comics as CBR files for ever. As long as they backed up it won't matter.

You can get your NES fixed? You are guaranteed a working one for ever? All your old NES cart game have a "License" to be used only on a NES. Until nobody cares about it and you will emulate it - just like will happen for the Vita.

No, you cant sell it... You cant trade it... Lend it... Or give it away.... Why physical media should never disappear. That I give you 100%

I also more about SonyMobile and Onlive. I had media on both. And the One that was a "Digital distribution" came out a lot better than the one that was a "digital service provider" for me.

But now I try to buy most of my games physical.

@Yorumi "It is the most ridiculously anti-consumer practice I have ever seen from this industry in my lifetime."

But that's the way the whole world, not just the industry, has been going of late. But since I'm sick of talking about the world being destroyed I'll try to stick to video games.

We live in digital rental world, that's the way it's becoming. Not that way now, but it's headed in that direction.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-04-19-digital-sales-now-represent-74-percent-of-the-us-game-market

Kids today - I'm old - don't know about buying physical video games. How many people have physical copies of Pokemon Go, PUBG, Fortnite or Hearthstone? (PUBG along has sold over 40 million copies, none of them physical that I'm aware of unless you count a code in a box, which I don't.) How many people playing on phones own a single physical game? And it's headed that way on consoles as well. It's been almost a decade since PSPgo, the no physical media handheld gaming console. And look at the Switch. 32GB storage. In some cases that's not even enough for 1 game. So companies sell us half the game on a $60 cart, then we have to buy an SD card to download the rest. And if the servers go away you've spent $60 on a useless half a game. If I have to buy a $300 console, a $60 game, and a $20 SD card, well I might as well just stream the a game rental on my phone.

So I don't think this is the worst thing the industry has done. Nintneod shipping a $300 console that requires us to then buy an SD card for some individual games is worse. Yes X1 and PS4 have external storage, but neither have ever had a single game that required extra storage as of yet, 500GB has been enough for any game. And companies selling half a game on a cart that requires a download for the rest is just as bad. Doom should have cost $30 to buy the single player on cart, then an extra $30 to download the multiplayer, at least break the cost up.

So Capcom being up front, telling people it's a rental at a rental price, well I think it's stupid for people to pay it, but I think it's good that companies are trying to bring streaming to Switch. Because in 2 years when games are built from the ground up for PS5 and X2, Switch won't be able to run those, streaming may be the only solution. And if Capcom can get a streaming rental game to work on Switch, well more power to them, once they price it accordingly.

And kids today are used to paying for multiple of the same thing. Netlfix $12, HBO Now $15, Prime $120, Hulu $7. If they can have 1 device, say an PC, that streams Sony, Nintnedo and MS games, well they'll be more than happy to pay for multiple services if it means only having to buy 1 box, and not having to buy a PS5, X2 and Switch 2 to get all the exclusives.

So in a way digital streaming is better than owning, less hardware to buy. If you can get the 1 magic box that plays them all. And you'r eok w/ renting. And kids today are so ok w/ renting, ask Netflix and Amazon. Nobody buys blu-ray discs anymore, and Sony didn't even put a 4k blu-ray player in the PS4 Pro.

Here's another take. Not about Capcom, nobody cares about them, but how digital renters view the world.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3268999/gaming/sony-playstation-now-pc-streaming-review.html

So if you want to look at it as the end of gaming as we know it, or at least the end of Ntineod - who died w/ Mario Run as far as I'm concerned - it's fully understandable. Gaming died for me when single player FFXV turned into the game that wouldn't die and wouldn't stop taking my money. Gaming as we know it is dead. "A rushed game is bad forever, a delayed game is eventually good." is dead forever. It's all about ever changing rentals from here on out. Capcom doing this on Switch doesn't destroy gaming, it let's Ntinedo hardware keep up w/ the others in a world that's already destroyed. Better than being left behind. There's no going back to ownership. I traded in my copy of God of War but the box is still proudly displayed on my shelf. That's as close as we get to game ownership these days, owning the box art.

If you think this is bad better brace yourself for when Ntineod announces Super Smash Bros. is launching with only 12 playable characters and we'll have to buy the rest 2 a week for the next 6 months.

I will not support this, Cloud gaming is a scam.

@jimi well I mean that the software in your NES cart is only license by Nintendo (to you) to be used on the Nintendo Entertainment System. So in theory, the day that there are no working NES... You cant legally play that game. Why emulators are not legal even if you own the game.

Yeah... Not my times but the NES does look like a little bunker - and probably just as tough. Enjoy your games 👍

i have a 300mbp/s connection so i guess im ok.
i hope these games can be rented, i never buy full for the full price, for something i will never own, and with changes it will be unplayable due to connection faillures.

but i already predicted 4 years ago, that once this is the way we are gonna play games.

@MasterJay "Your saying that we take the Switch and eliminate one of the reasons it's so successful?"

No, I'm saying if you mainly play the Switch as a portable don't rent this. But just b/c you play the Switch mainly as a portable doesn't mean I shouldn't have the opportunity to rent this game on my home Switch. Should Nintnedo not sell games like Labo Variety Kit and Voez that don't work on the TV? Switch is both a home and portable, some games work better one way, some work better the other, some work both. I honestly don't think this will work very well either way but really don't think anybody should try streaming a game over Wi-Fi. Sony has been trying to do that for nearly a decade w/o great results. But for people who really want to play this and have their Switch dock wired I think it's worth a go. If it works. That demo time really needs to be at least an hour. First 15 minutes of the game is probably just credits and a cut scene, can't judge lag watching a cut scene. Unless it's a 15 minute fast paced action packed part of the game, then that's ok. Details seem a bit limited right now. Perhaps I'm reading it wrong and you aren't limited to 15 minutes, it's a 15 minute long demo you can play as often as you like?

This could be great, but only if it's centralised. Like PS Now (which I've used with great pleasure on my Mac to complete such classics as The Last of Us, Heavy Rain and Uncharted), which is run by Sony, and we can say with much confidence that it will close only if Sony goes out of business.

This is what Nintendo should've included in their upcoming online service (or maybe introduced as a separate product, again like PS Now). Then I wouldn't hesitate to buy it and be sure it sticks for quite some time. But if every company does it on their own, it's a recipe for disaster and servers going offline in a couple of years.

As for the performance though, no worries here. PS Now isn't officially available in Russia, yet I signed up through a workaround, and playing on European servers (the closest of which is in Germany as far as I can tell, several thousands kilometres away) is pretty much a seamless experience except for occasional lag that doesn't disturb me much.

@jimi Wait how does making a single game with poor quality equate to not caring about quality anymore?

@jimi "new Nintendo"

I wouldn't' be so fast w/ that "new", Wii U had some horrible things going on.

Like a tennis game w/ only 1 arena and no motion controls. The entire game was practically little more than a tech demo. Not sure if we'll get "Aces" but it has "swing' mode at least. And the advanced "we're a 2D fighter game w/ break limits" mode.

And Animal Crossing: amiibo Festival. I picked that up at bankrupt TRU for $5 b/c I'd read good thing about the assortment of minigames so I think for $5 why not? But I can't find them in game. So I think, ok we'll play the board game first then unlock them. Only after playing still no minigames to be found. Finally my kid looks it up and you have to play the boring board game twice, then buy the minigames w/ tickets? What kind of crud is that? The minigames are all over the back of the box but I can't play them? Wrong. And it seems I need 6 cards for a few of them but the box only has 3. And good look finding any more of those.

So if by "new" Nintneod you mean the Ntinedo that put $100 worth of DLC in SSBU, yeah they've been broken for awhile now. But not new new.

what capcom does, is basicly destroying the console industry.
if you can run pc or ps4 game quality on a nintendo switch, why would "someone" not setup a illegal server in china or russia to stream even their games to any device? what about every nintendo backlog.

think about it, with in the movie industry this is happening for quit some time(kodi)

if this way of gaming is going to be populair, we are heading back to the 3,5 inch disk era, where piracy was at its peak.

It’s a great idea and I’ll support the heck out of this. I’ll take streamed quality AAA games over shoddy ports on my Switch anytime. It’s all about the experience.

@Yorumi "Who would have though vinyl records would be as popular today as they are?"

Is anybody under 40 buying records though?

Apologies if you were focusing on the streaming, I thought you were focusing on the lack of physical ownership in a rental society. Yeah, streaming sucks and I'm not sure it will be big for at least another 20 years, the tech just isn't nearly there yet. (20 years from now when we're all walking around wearing Google Glass Overlord MS will have us on a short leash, voluntary Big Brother enslavement.) All I could think while playing games on PS Now was "Why can't I download these and play them locally?" And that was even before MS started doing just that w/ Gamepass recently.

So yeah, streaming hasn't impressed me yet. And Capcom should be doing a lot of beta testing with this before charging anyone a cent. And anybody who buys it is just asking to be disappointed.

But, and this is a limited knowledge but, I do think Japan has better infrastructure, and since this is Japan only it's possible they can set up a few servers and get it to work well enough. Japan is only the size of 1 coast of the US, and it's more cohesive than the EU, so maybe in Japan streaming works?

Usually this is the part where Id' say "guess we'll find out" but if nobody buys it we wont. And that will be that, the market will have spoken, as it should be. Maybe this is really just Capcom's way to stop supporting the Switch going forward?

day one updates are a thing we have to get used to.
it takes alot of time to develop games these days, everyday a game is in development costs more money then previous systems.
im not a big fan of nintendo, but nintendo is one of the few companies that release games in almost perfect state.

now i owned a xbox one and ps4, these games where horrible. mass effect andromeda for instance, even the updates where shamefull.
i dont think we have anything to complain on the switch

NOPE.

LOL 18 dollars to rent a game for a few months 🤣

jimi.
you make it sound if the composer of the orchestra died.
the problem is not one person at nintendo, but the whole "old and rusty" leading staff.

i know a guy from nintendo japan who is been working their since the mid 2000's, who claims the company is very depressive to work for, ideas only come from higher hand, its depressive and dictatorial. only a group of important people in nintendo's history, decide everything. and they hate internet, critisisme, and still think gaming is for little kids.

thats why things dont change there.

@Yorumi I will quit gaming and become a retro collector if this becomes the norm.

I want Resident Evil 7 to come to the Switch, but not like this

It's a big no-no for me. I would gladly support Capcom and their succesful revival of the RE games - but this is unacceptable.

capcom half@$$ing everything these day their becoming like ea now.

@jswhitfield8 Storage Solutions aren't keeping up, when we have SD cards that hold several hundred gigabytes? Get real.

i love how people are raging when we dont know what the european or american release looks like.

having the cloud version in japan makes sense cause of the way better wifi than in europe or america.

i agree though if they do release the cloud version outside of japan, yeah wont get it, but tbh i feel like capcom might give us re7 as an eshop release.

this cloud version also brings the question, will mhw come to the switch with the same technology?

@jswhitfield8 storage solutions are keeping up fine. That's like when the iPad came out journalists claimed the death of PC gaming, console gaming, laptops, PC's and big screen TV's and we all know what happened there.

Cloud streaming is really just another option.

I guess not the worst thing ever, and the pricing+ time you have is way better than PSNow, but with my internet connection, it'll never work. Assuming of course they do this same model over here in the States.

However, the thing is, why couldn't they just do a port like regular? Sure, it wouldn't look as good but that wouldn't be news. And sure, there would probably be an extra download for the physical release, but that 's nothing new either.

I just have a hard time imaging that running it on server is some night and day difference. Re Revelations 1+2 collection sold best on Switch, so it's not like Capcom should be too hesitant on a working on a port..

I'm not buying into this, Capcom. No way. Too many ways for you to abuse our wallets. If I buy a game I want to own it for a duration of time that I see fit. Period.

ATTENTION VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY-CLOUD STREAMING VIDEO GAMES IS THE WORSE IDEA YOU COULD EVER CONSIDER.

@jimi First of all Super Mario Maker was the first Mario game with a day one update. Second Mario Tennis US and Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival were both dated in the trailers for a holiday 2015 release date (Sorry for just the links using a mobile device right now) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yIQQxHIiRgo
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj1v4HC7kkQ Is there any evidence to show Iwata would’ve moved the release date out of the kindness of his heart?

Yeeeeaahh no! I'd prefer to own my games. Cool in theory of playing AAA games on it but that's it. Great internet needed and dont actually own it? Meh. No thanks!

@bogofet Ya with the services you can mention, you can actually buy and own that content. Not the case here.

Until there is the minutest amount of lag, this won’t be worth it. This game requires precision and quick reactions. After playing it in VR, I can’t play this game any other way. I hope that those with Switch and without Pc, XB1 or PS4 have the option to play this game if they choose to.

I'd much rather have physical media. That way, whenever I get tired of playing them, I can just put them away on a shelf or in a box, then in a few weeks or months, I can pull them back out when I'm ready to play them again without having to pay for them again.

Boy, over 150 comments and some are quite the paragraphs. Need some popcorn before diving in.

On a side note, I'll just play RE7 on another platform since my internet is slower than a turtle. More power to anyone with fast internet that's up for the game streaming format.

If I really wanted to play RE7 I would just get it on PS4 or Xbox One instead, No Way am I going to pay $20 to stream ONE Game to the Switch and have a limited time to play it in. Either port it the right way or don't bring it over at all.

I frankly have no interest in legally "owning" a game. I play for the immediate joy of playing, tend not to re-visit old titles, am not a collector and have never re-sold a game in my life. If I can rent a title more cheaply than purchasing it I'm happy to do so. If I want to invest in games I'll buy shares in Nintendo (I wish I had during the WiiU days). My main concern is how well the games would play in practice. I live approximately 10 km from the centre of the largest city in Australia, and can't reliably check my email for around one day a fortnight such is the state of telecommunications here.

@carlos82 input lag and bad internet connections are the biggest turn offs though. No one should ever support this practice and tbh Capcom couldve kept this.

@jaglufc OK, imagine if you had to pay $20 for each and every individual movie that you watch on Netflix and you never own it and it gets removed in around half a year. . . .

This is an utterly terrible idea and model for gamers/consumers.

Giving us access to a huge library of digital games for a yearly fee (with new ones getting added regularly too), if we're going down this kind of streaming route, is more the way to go.

What Capcom is doing here is just fleecing people imo.

I'm guessing Capcom is not competent enough to port it to the Switch.

Looks like I'm gonna have to wait till Friday to find out if it works in the UK!

There’s nothing good about this and I hope this is the first game to do it and the last.

@Yorumi

Yeah, it's pretty crazy that some people not only want to go along with it, but actually champion it like it's a great idea. Here's the issue for me. Yes, companies have the ability to do what they want with their properties, however, companies also almost never do things out of the customers interest. It's all about maximizing profits, always has been, always will be. That's not to say that companies are openly nefarious, however, sometimes we as consumers have to push back if there's something we don't like. Streaming games is a game over in that respect.

Another example you could use is I have Adobe Cloud since I'm a graphic designer. Back in the day, about 5 years ago, it wasn't necessary to buy new products from them every year. I could go maybe 3 software cycles before I would feel the need to upgrade. Now, with the cloud, you have to pay by the year (they say by month, but it's misleading and is actually by the year). The benefit is that you can work anywhere. Ok, that's a nice perk at least. However, their other "benefit" is that you can now download any adobe software they have. I don't know about you or how familiar you are with Adobe products, but there are too many programs to count. I can't bother trying to learn all these programs, and half the time they discontinue them anyway, aka Adobe Muse is on the chopping block now and won't be supported anymore.

I guess the point is, my company pays a massive amount of money for all this software, and we can't even use half of them because we're human beings and we can only know so much at a time. If you could buy them individually, Adobe would think a little harder about what they put out. Instead we get these half efforts of stuff I've never even heard of. All I need is Photoshop, Illustrator, Indesign and After Effects, and I'm pretty good. Instead I get a huge catalog of crap I can't use under and insane price tag (and the price just went up too of course). You either pay the ridiculous price, or you get nothing. Oh and since the switch to the cloud, their programs are so buggy, but there's no need for them to care because Adobe essentially has zero competition.

Anyway, sorry I'm being a bit TL;DR but it's a slippery slope and it concerns me that people actively campaign for it. Games are more personal to us cause we invest more time than say, a movie, which has been the crux of many people's arguments.

Edit: It is possible to buy just one program which I wasn't aware of, however you can only buy one app at a time. Adobe used to put them in packages back in the disc days, but that's no more. People like me need multiple programs and if you buy them individually, it really isn't worth it. The idea is that they just push you to get the whole package. So sure the "option" is there, but most people I know don't just use Photoshop, they need a handful of programs. There almost needs to be a middle option, but there isn't because it's basically a pay for one or pay for all template.

@Yorumi

That's right, I think I remember you talking about coding before in prior conversations, didn't mean to lecture you about something you already know.

God that's awful. That's generally why I've never been a coder, other than for basic stuff, it's just something I can't keep up with. I'm more of a visual person anyway. My company did a ton of Flash stuff years ago, but we had to get off it cause things got too difficult to maintain. I think much like you talked about with code breaking, if a client wanted a change years later, it was a problem. I think our current programmer uses Unity, but that has some issues too from what I understand. All I can say is I appreciate the heck out of what you programmers go through, it's not an easy job, that's for sure.

But going back to what I said, you're almost forced to update all the time, and they're stuff is really buggy. More buggy than it used to be in the programs I use. I get that bugs happen with new software, but you shouldn't be afraid to update and I always am these days.