I love smartphones. From the very first moment I scooped up my T-Mobile G1 (AKA: the HTC Dream) way back in 2008, I knew this piece of technology would change my life forever. Over the years I've changed smartphones more often than I have my socks (that's not actually an exaggeration, which is why my wife and kids find it so hard to occupy the same room as me) and the allure of a shiny new phone (which does exactly the same things as the last one, but ever so slightly faster) never ceases to get my pulse racing. In short, I'm an unashamed slave to smartphone technology.
Given my gaming background you'd logically assume that over years I'd have fully embraced the entertainment potential of the smartphone, too; granted, the lack of physical buttons is an issue when it comes to traditional games, but the likes of Angry Birds, Threes and Canabalt have arguably overcome this to present addictive and compelling gameplay experiences which as rightly snared millions of players. But not me.
I've found that gaming always tends to be forgotten on my smartphone; I typically have very few – if any – games installed on my device, with apps such as Twitter, Instagram and WhatsApp being the first things I download when taking stock of a new handset (the exception to this rule being my beloved Sony Ericsson Xperia Play, which quickly became packed with emulators for a whole host of retro systems – that doesn't really count as smartphone gaming, though). I prefer to game on dedicated hardware, and right now that naturally means Switch. The console's delightful portability – combined with its amazing library of AAA games – presents a pretty intriguing gameplay proposition; the idea of playing a smartphone title designed to do little more than cynically empty my wallet via in-app purchases doesn't exactly thrill me in comparison.
Despite this, I've found myself increasingly turning to my phone for my gaming fix, and it's all thanks to Nintendo. The company's decision to move into the realm of smartphone games with partner DeNA was met with skepticism when it was first announced, and its debut – the non-game Miitomo – did little to change that. However, Super Mario Run and Fire Emblem Heroes have delivered polished experiences which, while still subject to traditional smartphone tropes such as in-app purchases and cool-down timers, have enough of that all-important Nintendo magic to be addictive, compelling and entertaining. Add to this the Niantic-developed Pokémon GO – a game that I have booted up every single day since it launched last year – and it's impossible for me to ignore the fact that Nintendo, of all companies, has turned me into a dedicated smartphone gamer.
I was perhaps a little in denial of this fact until recently, when I downloaded Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp to my phone. I've never been what I'd call a massive fan of the series, despite thoroughly enjoying past entries on the GameCube, DS and 3DS. I could clearly see the appeal of the game, its daily tasks and its massive selection of talking animals. However, having it on my phone takes things to a whole other level; I'm addicted in a way I'd never before believed was possible, certainly not in the smartphone arena.
Every spare second I have each day is now devoted to running errands, chatting with campmates, trading goods with other players and – most importantly – paying off that accursed loan so I can pimp out my camper van. The cycle of work and reward is perfectly pitched, and while cool-down timers are used quite excessively, it's not an issue when you can put your phone down for a couple of hours safe in the knowledge that when you next pick it up, there will be more tasks to complete, friends to hand gifts to and items to craft.
Nintendo's smartphone output may make some of the same mistakes that other mobile games are guilty of – in-app purchases are, sadly, a core part of the experience in the free-to-play market (and are becoming part of paid games too, as those who have been following the Star Wars: Battlefront II debacle will attest) – but I've so far managed to play all of the company's smartphone games without spending a penny. That might make me Nintendo's worst smartphone gaming customer – the company is in this to make cash, after all – but given that I've previously kept mobile games at arm's length, the Japanese veteran has clearly done something right.
What's your milage been with Nintendo's smartphone games? Let us know with a comment.
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I have only really enjoyed Mariorun. Any other Nintendo smartphone games I just haven’t gotten into. I’ve tried them all but animal crossing and that’s just because I need to clean up iPhone memory to fit it.
Other the other side, I just finished a couple matches of hearthstone. Need to get quests knocked of each day. Plants vs zombies and a couple other tower defense games have taken up quite s bit of my time as well. Great games can be on any platform. PC games had bejeweled before there was a candy crush craze on iPads.
Couldn't agree more. While I eventually fell off the Pokémon GO bandwagon, I've never booted up games on my smartphone on a consistent basis as much as I have over the last few years - and that's thanks to Super Mario Run, Fire Emblem Heroes, and believe it or not, Magikarp Jump.
I only now play Super Mario Run now and again, but it goes to show that it did indeed take Nintendo to turn me into somewhat of a smartphone gamer.
Not even Nintendo's efforts have been able to get me into smartphone games. Yes they're good, but I'll always prefer playing Switch or 3DS.
I don't even own a personal smart phone! Not even Nintendo is able to turn me into a slave of the pocket computer. . At work I am the only person riding the elevator not looking down at a tiny scream, furiously tapping at the screen in dead silence. Very sad, very sad.... I guess in the end, Skynet won. Too much hassle, too easy to hack, too insecure. I am glad Nintendo is spreading it's magic to the cell phone generation but for me, i will tick to the classic definition of video games
Meh not for me. I still hardly play phone games. Even Nintendo doesn’t keep me playing for more than a month. If you like them, by all means play them, but this is largely why I have a Switch.
While I think the Nintendo made games on Smartphones are a distinct cut above the rest still have serious trouble enjoying them. I have FE Heroes and Animal Crossing Camp on my phone. I played Heroes a good bit, but AC has failed to draw me in.
The fact is that all Smart phone games tend to be freemium microtransaction riddled messes built around lowest common denominator game play. Touch screen only controls are only okay for me in very small specific environments. I want buttons, I want a d pad or joy stick, I want a proper control scheme, without having to link some 3rd party add on that barely works has to be individually set up for games not designed to use it.
In my honest opinion Smartphone games are the absolute bottom of the barrel of gaming, they are the Tiger Electronics of the modern age. They are good for companies, bad for consumers.
And the Gacha style, loot box, RGN based, Pokemon card pack random pull style of games prey on those of us who are vulnerable to addictive gambling-like features. And I know that is more of us than we want to admit.
I do think I'll enjoy Animal Crossing if I play it more, but I'd also love to get rid of my smartphone tbh
I'm playing Animal Crossing Pocket Camp and Mario Run the most on my phone at the moment. I liked Fire Emblem Heroes, but it's not my kind of game so I stopped playing after a while.
I think it depends what you want from a mobile game. Either you are looking for an experience, you'd also engage with sitting down on your couch looking for some 'serious' gaming, or you are looking for a distraction while waiting for a bus or something like that.
I'm not really one who falls in the former category, because I normally just use my phone to listen to music or a podcast, while surfing or chatting, when I have to wait somewhere, hence I'm in favor of more substantial experiences, that are equal or at least comparable (given the limitations in terms of controls) to games I would engage with for purposes other than to pass 10 minutes of wait time.
Hence there have been definitely mobile games I enjoyed, like The Quest, Anomaly, Downwell, King's League, Tiny Guardians, Mage Gauntlet, Crowntakers, Battlevoid, Plants VS Zombies, Wayward Souls, Table Tennis and certainly some board-game adaptions like Splendor. Some of these games I actually initially played on PC, like Crowntakers, Anomaly and Plants VS Zombies.
Sadly, I cannot say the same for any Nintendo game. Sure, I'm absolutely willing to sit down at home and play any FE for hours upon hours, but the same is just not true for FE Heroes - the same goes for Mario and Pokemon.
I get that this was not the purpose of these games, I do, but unfortunately, for me this means that these games turned out to be entirely pointless, as I already liked their 'proper' console counter-parts (I'm still not into Animal Crossing though ^^) and on the mobile side, I already hat 'proper' games to occupy should the need arise. In short, Nintendo was aiming at a gap, that did not exist for me personally.
I'm glad that their games found an audience, because I feel like they were well made in terms of what they were actually shooting for. In a way, the fault clearly lies with me for being so far outside the scope of what they were getting at. Still, not for me is not for me.
im very happy nintendo is finding success in this market, but freemium style gatcha gaming is a pathetic cash grab, nothing more
I think the reason why I don't really dig mobile games is I play games not to waste time, but because I want to actively put time in a particular experience. I don't know if that difference is clear to everyone, but to me it is.
Nintendo's efforts so far seem pretty polished, but at its core they don't seem to differ that much from other games.
EDIT: Basically what Ralek85 said
When the app store launched in 2008 I played iphone games all the time (in fact I was one of the first to play Angry Birds before it blew up!) but have since dwindled over time to the point now where I don't play them at all.
I prefer console gaming so my game time is exclusive to that these days.
Just Mario Run for me but only because I’m the biggest NSMB nerd. Otherwise I always have some handheld from the last 20+ years in my pocket (and sometimes two of them if I can’t decide 😝).
I'm having fun with FE Heroes, but smartphone games are a side distraction for me. The 3DS (and someday in the future, the Switch) is where gaming lies to.
Then again... I can't bring my 3DS to work, but smartphones are ok
Absolutely no. I had a phase of heavy iOS gaming from about 2009 to 2012 but once that died out I returned back to console/portable gaming and I am never going back. I have a real problem with how impermanent everything feels on mobile. Of course nothing is permanent but especially so with mobile. Everything feels like junk food. Nothing will be remembered 20 years from now.
Even Nintendo's best efforts have failed to make me even remotely interested in mobile gaming. Any free time at work is spent on my Switch and whilst I have tried all there games, every time I play I just think why am I not playing one of my real games on a console which are far far better
Zero interest in mobile phones and their games.
I only play a few mobile games, and Mario Run is definitely one that made it viable. The game has no micro transaction BS (at least in the content that seems even remotely interesting, which is the main campaign) Just a reasonable buy-once model. It does kind of feel gross when I step into parts other than the campaign, when it wants me to do utterly inane things for... stuff I don’t care about, but the core game is fun, and it’s entertaining enough to retry a stage for the next level of purple coins when I’ve got a few minutes to spare.
The Rayman Jungle Run game is along the same lines. I guess there, they have the “Unlock all levels” thing, but there’s no BS to speak of if you play it like a normal game. It also works fantastically on a phone screen, since it’s just timed taps.
Neither matches up to a console game, but they don’t have to. I can slip my phone in my pocket without thinking about it. The Switch? I need a coat for that thing.
While I’ve put countless hours into Mario Run since the launch day, FEH and the new Animal Crossing one are super annoying because I just wish there was a “Pay £10 an get the full experience” version.
Then again I’m not the target market
Like others have said, I’ve had trouble getting into Nintendo’s mobile affairs. Miitomo bored me fast. Super Mario Run was a short amusement that I deleted after a couple days. And Pokémon Go was really innovative the initial month or so of it’s release, but I fell off the bandwagon fast. Gen 3 May spark my interest again for a another month or so.
Animal Crossing Pocket Camp is pretty neat so far, but seeing how I’m only level 3 after about 5 days of playing shows that I’m not playing a lot. It’s fun and I love Animal Crossing but I’m more inclined to go on Reddit or something. Amazing how I’m such a huge gamer but I have such trouble getting into gaming on a mobile phone.
Looks like Damo wasn't kidding about buying new phones frequently, I thought the screen got bigger in each of the 3 photos. That last one may have a bigger screen than the Switch.
I did buy SMR for $5 and still play the remix levels about once a week, downloaded FEH and played for a few days, and downloaded and played AC:PC for 2 hours then never touched it again. But that's how I am w/ a lot of mobile games, though I don't think I've played nay ion a couple of years now, burned out on the sameness. So Nintendo did nothing new in my eyes, just blended in with the rest.
@Manjushri I believe that nintendo has a strategy with its smartphone releases, they try to appeal to the mobile larger demographic in the hopes that it will bring more people to console when they release the same ip on Switch. Super mario run came a year before odyssey , fire emblem heroes before fire emblem warriors, so i believe (hope) that an AC on switch is not that far away
I think I'm just not into Smartphone games. I've tried out Nintendo's offerings, but I've lost interest before too long.
Mario Run looked like it might be the ideal game to play on the tube on my way to work, but the Always Online requirement put paid to tgat, so I never bothered beyond the free levels and the odd Toad Rally effort.
Fire Emblem was enjoyable for a bit, but then felt repetitive and I'd rather play a full FE game on my 3ds.
Miitomo started out as a daily play to earn coins for My Nintendo until I realised they didn't have much purpose.
Pokémon Go was a novelty, but I didn't really want to be wandering around with my phone out for would-be scooter thieves to nick.
And I haven't looked at Animal Crossing because I'm too busy with Stardew Valley in my Switch.
I'm not dusregarding these games. They obviously have an audience and work for sone people, which is great if it gets more people playing Nintendo games in sone form, but I'm quite happy to say it's not me. I'll be over here playing on my Switch.
Doomgles, Shadow Warrior and Dead Effect 1&2 and Emulators are the best for mobile devices. I use a JXD which has integrated buttons, D-pad, no touch screen for me. Nintendo's offerings are all garbage, mediocre at best, can't see smart device owners wanting to buy a switch after trying the poor output Nintendo are offering
I just only have Miitomo in my smartphone, but i Rarely play it since i play 3DS a lot.
Miitomo allowed a real dark side of me out with the photo editor thing. The rest of the game was shallow. I hated Mario Run. Fire Emblem Heroes was good, but I couldn't get into it. But I am loving Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp. I'm already Lvl 20 and haven't spent a penny.
I've dabbled in nintendos smartphone games and they're decent. Thus far the only smartphone game that's had staying power with me is plants vs. Zombies 2. It's free to play but i don't actually spend any money on it.
@PokerFace
Any tips for me to convince someone who is addicted with very crappy smartphone games (Like Growtopia) that he/she think is the best of all , to like Nintendo machines, at least 3DS or Nintendo Switch for Best Experience ?
I wanna "brainwashing" someone with Nintendo stuffs...
Because looks like you have return on Real gaming habit, Consoles / Handhelds. Congratulation !
@cleveland124
I have one student (Primary 4) that she play All Freebies Smartphone games. When i explained about real games that should be purchased, she said she didn't want games that has to pay because she play Freebies from App Store all the time and thought All the games Must be FREE.If there is a game has to pay, she said don't buy that game.
I was laughed, so i explained about the Real Gaming Industry that All the games must be bought by money, Never Ever any one game that completely 100% Free. Even she thought she can download the games for Free, but the Reality there are some Micro Transactions in Every Single Smartphone games. Even Cooking Mama mobile has a lot of Paid-to-play Recipes.
I think she still too Naive, never knew the truth about gaming industry since she lives in Medium High Economy class, her Mom can't buy / didn't allow to buy expensive stuffs like that due to Non Gaming mindset in Indonesia by mostly then she grew up with crappy smartphone games all the time.
So, my question is, How do i explain the Truth about games that we have to purchase, Not the Freebies that we can download for Free ?
I think smartphone games are great. It's great when you want to shut the kids up for a short time.
@Anti-Matter just buy her a Nintendo switch. Maybe she's not interested in games like you are and about all it's history. She just wants to play games she likes. Let her be
I've played FE Heroes a fair amount but apart from that I haven't been interested. Miitomo acted as just a way to easily get My Nintendo coins but quickly became pointless even in that way as it didn't take long to find out My Nintendo is a terrible rewards program especially when compared to Club Nintendo. The Super Mario Run demo wasn't good enough for me to buy the full game and Animal Crossing in general doesn't really interest me.
@1UP_MARIO
"It's great when you want to shut the kids up for a short time."
Ooh...
IF I am the parent, i will NEVER introduce any smartphone games.
I will "brainwashing" my kids with Tons of Nintendo machines and games. I will Discourage their interest about smartphone games if they saw from their friends. I will ask them to play together with me as their Daddy and also with other family member to join in Nintendo madness.
Easy way, i will shut my kids with New 2DS XL for cheaper choices, Not by Crappy smartphone games.
Btw, i said IF....
@Anti-Matter I don't know man. They already have 2ds and 3ds but we don't take it everywhere with us.
"So, my question is, How do i explain the Truth about games that we have to purchase, Not the Freebies that we can download for Free ?"
Tell her games cost money but then again if she's having fun with the games she's playing which are free then why do you want her to spend more money if she's already happy with free games
@Shiryu all those damn slaves, conveniently paying bills, communicating with loved ones, knowing what time the bus comes, when they could be looking at the doors of an elevator instead.... poor people
@Shiryu it's nice to know I'm not the only one without a smart phone!I have an old Nokia phone that I bought for a tenner 5 years ago and despite me dropping it more times than I can count it still works perfectly.You can talk and text on it but that's about it and I'm fine with that.I have had smart phones in the past but honestly it was just one hassle after another full of apps I don't even use.
It's good Nintendo are trying for the mobile market so long as they don't try too hard.Gaming for me will always be with consoles.
I don't think Nintendo's smartphone games are worth playing and, to be honest, I don't expect that to change in the future
@Anti-Matter I started off as a Nintendo gamer from the SNES days, so it was more a matter of me returning to the fold. As for weaning someone off of mobile... all I can suggest is recommending games with the most immediate punch. Games that show a clear distinction between mobile and console/portable. For 3DS, my choice is 3D Land, or maybe Ocarina (A Link Between Worlds would also be a good starter Zelda!)? Anyway, I wish you luck in introducing your friend to Nintendo games!
There are some fantastic games on mobile - and the Nintendo ones are decent but really only B rank. Sorcery, The Room series, Crashlands and others offer better experiences and without any of that microtransaction nonsense. Smartphones are also dream machines for RPG lovers, with everything from the Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest series to Baldurs Gate and Planescape Torment. Currently playing Final Fantasy Tactics for the first time on my phone, and it's just a great game. What I'm playing it on is hardly relevant - but the fact I can pull it out of my pocket and play for 10min or two hours is great. It is seriously likely to keep Xenoblade 2 on the back burner for a week or so.
@jcurls How about proper conversation with another Human being? In person, I meant. I know, fantastic concept...
I only like my iPhone for iTunes. I will never play a video game on a cellphone
@1UP_MARIO
Because...
If she thinks All the games must be Free, her mindset will be wrong.
I think her mindset can be changed.
But, before that...
Back to my case.
4 years ago, i was NOT an Original Gamer.
Used to be i play with Modded machines, Pirated games all the time, never ever consider to buy the original one.
Until there was one day i saw FF XIII PS3 in Red Box displayed on the glass shelf in one of game shop. I was curious so I asked the price and it was very cheap. I was convinced somehow, never ever have any feeling like that. So, I DARE myself to buy that game even i didn't have ps3 yet. When i got the game for the first time, my reaction was soooo Excited, never ever so excited when i got an Original game for the first time.
Then, my adventures continued by purchasing LEGO CITY Undercover 3DS for the first time, I was Convinced enough to Start my Destiny as an Original Gamer. Moreover, i met with someone near of game shop. He was a gamer. He had some Original 3DS games. When i noticed his belongings, i asked him what was that. I was so Fascinated to see a lot of Original 3DS carts inside his Card case. Short story, i had some chit chat with him and at the end, he gave me his phone number to get older 3DS games and his friend phone number to order Original games. Since that first meeting, it was changed my Mindset completely from Pirated gamer to be Original gamer. On 2nd November 2013, it was my First time to buy An Original 3DS XL despite i still had 2 3DS games ( Lego City Undercover: The Chase Begins & The Sims 3 Pets). At the end of 2013, i could manage to owned 12 3DS games.
At the beginning of year 2014, after i got my 3DS XL for the first time , i was convinced with Original NDS games. So, i called my friend to order FF III NDS. I was hoping a Second handed games in box, but i got Even Better than i thought. My friend ordered FF III NDS from playasia. It still Brand New condition, never expected to get Brand New condition. I was Sooo excited to get my first Original NDS game. But sadly, he couldn't take my order anymore. So, i dare myself to contact his friend number, i had some chit chat from phone and then i tried to order two NDS games from playasia. After that, on other day, i decided to meet him at his home. After i introduced myself, he could take my request. After several weeks, my two NDS games arrived, and i was sooo excited again. After that, i really depended on him to order Original games. So i made a list what games that i want to buy, i planned what games that i will order from him. At the same time, i Boxed all my Modded machines such as Modded Wii, Modded ps2. I Put them inside a box, didn't play them for 1 year, to let it go my feeling about pirated games mindset. At the end of 2014, i had removed my modded Fat ps2 with All my pirated ps2 games. I started Clean Slate. Could you imagine about my feeling to let all of them go ?
On year 2015, i could manage to Exhange my modded Wii with Soft Modded USA Wii (My modded Wii was Asia region, couldn't play USA Wii games) . I managed to Reset my USA Wii to became Back to Original. I also updated my Wii to unable play pirated games anymore. During year 2015, i built a lot of games library.
On year 2016, i expanded my gaming library with Gamecube and Wii U. My collection grew bigger and bigger.
On year 2017, this is the year that i spend More games and machines. I bought White New 3DS XL on February 2017, bought PS2 Slim on April 2017 (i had asked to remove the modchip inside since ps2 in Indonesia will be installed with modchip) , started to buy PS4 games under Unexpected circumstances. Later, i will expand again my gaming Kingdom with Switch & PS4.
Phew... i had collect more than 90 Original games , both Nintendo and Sony games. I was thinking when i was 4 years ago, i have never think about collecting original games. But look at me now. My mindset has been changed. I had convinced from someone, someone that inspired me to change my bad habit of gaming. If I NEVER knew him, I will NEVER had Tons of Original games displayed tidily inside my shelf. I thanked to him for helping me to order Original games from playasia or Ebay.
So... from my History, if i can be convinced to change drastically, i believe my student can be convinced too. One change can change her mindset forever. And that's i want to share to my student. I want to encourage them to buy Original games.
Well, what do you think about my history ?
I've tried a few games on mobile including Mario Run and it's just not doing it for me. Maybe a Mario kart or a Zelda could turn me. Maybe next year...
@Anti-Matter yea your mind set has changes along with your money.
@1UP_MARIO
Well, that's fine.
As a Hobby collector, spending a lot of money for Beloved things feel worthy for me.
I got the things i want.
that's only problem of yours ...we, the others, havent been plagued by this dangerous virus called mobile gaming
@Shiryu Unless your circle of friends and family is really small, I don't see how you can see them on a daily basis instead of conveniently sending... gasps, messages. Or you know, you can do both things.
I feel like such an old geezer, because the smartphone fever haven't caught me at all. Sure, it's nice to be able to browse the web and text friends anytime, anywhere, but I much prefer to do it on an actual computer, with an actual keyboard.
Gaming is no different, as actual physical controls are a must for me - plus I simply loathe the popular methods of monetization that have become a synonym of the platform. So I've never been a smartphone gamer, and probably never will be - even with my favorite gaming company embracing it. Just not for me, I guess.
@TheGameSquid I see your point and I play games for both of those reasons. I actively wasted 25 minutes playing hearthstone this morning while cooking breakfast. Then I just spent 2 hours playing skyrim on my switch. Back on phone for 10 minutes to put dog out then kids wanted to play board game(trouble). Gaming can take lots of forms.
@Anti-Matter that's great man. Main thing is as long as your happy 😊
Can't do it. I don't care if it's Nintendo or not.
I mean, Super Mario Run was decent fun. But I had to put away FE Heroes before spending my entire bank balance. I knew I would too. Didn't even bother with Animal Crossing.
@Anti-Matter
I had a modded Wii, before I really got into gaming. It wasn't until I got a Wii U along with NSMBU that I started wanting physical copies. So I bought one, and that turned into two, and so on and so on... and pretty soon I was buying up as many good GameCube and Wii games as I could afford. That was about 5 years ago. Now I've got 500-700 games spanning DS, 3DS, GC, Wii, NSW, Vita, PS4 and X1. Once you start investing in a physical Collection it's hard to stop.
@ricklongo
I think this is very interesting to compare the difference between us as from Old generation ( I was born on 1984) and 2000's + 2010's generations.
The 2000's & 2010's kids are Very hard to be convinced with nowadays consoles or handhelds, because mobile take over their mindset. While for 80's / 90's generation, there are some people who still fond with Retro and Newest Consoles / Handhelds.
What do you think ?
Should we convince the 2000's & 2010's generations with Switch or any consoles ?
@JaxonH
Wow, 700 games ?!
I think you have Very Large shelf to store all of them.
Tried both Pokémon GO and Mario Run. I feel like both are shallow in terms of gameplay in comparison to their console/handheld counterparts. GO, to me, is a glorified museum the size of the entire planet and lacks the leveling up and battle system I am used to and like in the mainline games. Mario Run ... well, not much of a 2D Mario fan, especially because of the NSMB series, so ...
I‘ve tried some mobile ports of classic games like Sonic CD and such, you know, games built with controllers in mind. And I go and say it right now - I need my buttons, my d-pad, my control stick, anything that I can physically press. It simply was such a weird experience, I stopped mobile gaming altogether until Nintendo began to advertise their games in the mobile space.
It kinda did. I got my first smarthphone few months before Pokémon GO launched and like the writer, I have used it every day since. Not because of gameplay but because somebody made something interesting to do while walking and running: catching and hatching Pokémon. I've tried Mario run, FE and AC but only little. It's POGO that gets daily use. Other times I'll just play with my Switch or other consoles.
@JaxonH
Wow, that's impressive! The largest I have seen personally was my friends collection of 450+ games. I "only" have 200 games in physical form.
I think the biggest problem that Nintendo has is that many people think mobile games should be equal to their console/handheld counterparts. Looking over the comment threads about Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp and I've seen people requesting such extensive content that is normally reserved for the full console experience. Mobile games are meant to be shorter, bite-sized pieces of fun, and not a deep, long-term game that you'd get the same mileage out of as you would a Switch/3DS/Wii U version.
For what they are, I have enjoyed half of Nintendo's games so far - Super Mario Run and Pocket Camp have been great for me. I don't mind spending a small bit of money on F2P games if I really enjoy them as a way of supporting the developers since the game was actually free to download and start. They have been good to have on my phone to play on commutes when I didn't feel like bringing my actual Nintendo hardware with me. For what they are, I think the games have been great and have served a purpose to keep Nintendo's brand names out there in the public eye.
And if you don't like them, they are easy enough to ignore and won't detract from the enjoyment you already get out of the other console games.
lol!... tons of mobile games better over all this crap - another running game?. Half the retro garbage on the Switch eShop NL always keeps raving about are also on Mobile.
This more about you and the Nintendo Logo, and not about mobile gaming.
Phone gaming is not real gaming and is not allowed in my house..
I don't consider Nintendo's apps the best mobile gaming has to offer. Far from it actually. And folks that write off phone games as Candy Crush and Angry Birds don't know what they're talking about either.
Smartphone games are just so bland to me whether they have a Nintendo coat of paint or not. I've tried all of Nintendo's and they just seem like watered down versions of the full games.
I've been playing smartphone games for a long time, and yes, as in the consoles, those games started being very simple games, but, since then, over the years they improved that nowadays ""there are"" very good/great games and some of they are on par with AAA games.
I've actually seen and played very good games, however there is something very true, most of those games (or rather, the companies behind those games) have used the fame of the model "free to start", which have really damaged to many of those games turning them into "slot machines", that to play the game completely, you have to pay and worse, the challenges to win prizes end up paying even more because they are exaggerated challenges, they really damage the traditional model of winning the things for your merits; the good thing is that they are not all games, but even so, it is something that has already reached all platforms, but it is not necessary to blame smartphone games, really are the companies and ourselves that have allowed those things.
Pokemon Go and Mario Run (maybe Fire Embleem) are the only games that I am interested , but, until I get an Android smartphone that allows me to use SD memory to save applications, because that has been a problem when I buy a smartphone and I forgot ask for this problem.... oh well!!
@deafswin37, @BlackenedHalo, @Anti-Matter
oh please, not again with that "idea"...
I think most people here don't understand the purpose of mobile gaming. It's not going to replace your 3DS and Switch. But if you're standing in a busy bus, isn't it easier to take out your phone (which you only need one hand for) instead of your Switch?
Even though Animal Crossing Pocket Camp is one of the biggest cash grabs in the play store, it's still fun. I start the game every 6 hours just to see which clothes / furniture are in store.
I do enjoy their mobile games, but they still aren't good enough to keep me playing for more than a week. Console games are still the best
@Agramonte Can you at least troll in understandable English, please? I literally have no idea what you mean.
I still prefer dedicated gaming platforms, but I'm not against mobile games by any means; in fact, I had quite an addiction to Sonic Dash for a little while. XD
The only mobile games I dislike are the ones that are clearly pay-to-win, or the ones that are cheaply made just to grab a quick buck.
Not for me. I mean, once in a blue moon a genuinely fantastic mobile game releases, but even the best ones don't hold a candle to a better-than-average game on a dedicated game console.
Some of Nintendo's games are OK. Some are boring. I'd trade all of them for one extra game developed for the Switch, 3DS, or, hell, even the Wii U.
The main gaming use my iPhone and iPad get are the PDF manuals for hundreds of retro games spanning from the NES up to the Gamecube and PS2. Compliments my retro gaming nicely, means I can access the manuals without forking out hundreds of pounds on complete retro games on eBay. Thanks GoodReader.
I don't have a smartphone,but I play the pc versions of Sonic Dash and Yugi-Oh duel links.
So may great games for mobile devices now. So many. Why anyone would rob himself of that enjoyment just to prove some weird, shortsighted point is beyond me.
@samuelvictor
"Never really got into Animal Crossing "
Really ?
That means you don't play Animal Crossing New Leaf ?
I play that game for 4 years and still play that game until today.
I caught the game is really interesting once i know the Objectives in the game.
My Objectives in ACNL are here :
1. Getting specific Dreamy Villagers. I prefer Boys Animal Villagers such as Jay, Rooney, Sterling, Colton, etc. So, my time mostly spends just only looking for specific Villagers by doing a lot of Tricks. I use Second Character tricks to Peek who will be landed on my Town. If they are i'm looking for, i will Save it. But if not, i will Reset by Quit from the game, ReEnter again. Also, since i have two 3DS and 4 copies of ACNL games ( 3 of them are Physical, 1 is Digital download) so i use Digital version as Villagers Supplier that means, i can get specific Villagers from the Digital version Town , try to make my specific Villagers Move Out, then i use my other ACNL game as Receiver to Move In the Move Out villagers ( they boxed the belongings before they move out) to stay at my desire Town. So far, i have managed well 3 Towns with a lot of different Villagers. Once there is no more Dreamy Villagers from my "Supplier" Town, simply i Delete my Digital download town, Recreate from beginning again to get another specific villagers while i keep going with my other 3 Towns as Receiver. So, from that point, whenever my Dreamy Villagers want to Move Out, i simply reject their request, i ask them to stay forever in my town. Pretty clever tricks, huh ?
2. Beautify my Town. I spend my time by collecting a lot of Public Work Project from All type of Villagers (Jock, Cranky, Lazy, Smug, Normal, Peppy, Snooty, Uchi), then build some PWP objects to beautify my towns. Also, i scanned some QR codes for beautiful path roads and patterns to cover the grassy areas with road paths.
3. Getting all K.K. slider musics, furnitures, clothes, wallpapers, floors, etc. Also i try to get all Emotions from Dr. Shrunks, breed the flowers to get Rare color flowers, get all fishes, bugs, etc.
4. Now since i have two 3DS, i can visiting each other between my towns to upgrade my Train Station / Office design after 100 visits.
So those are my Objections inside ACNL game to help me for not being Clueless. After i understand the Tricks, i can enjoy the gameplay. Why don't you give it a try ? I'm sure you will start to like once you know the Objections.
@SakuraHaruka
What idea ?
omg i only come here these days for the anti-matter lolz
but i am in agreeance that mobile phone games are pure rubbish. (or trash, garbage as they say in america)
@Shiryu Although I agree with you in general, I found it quite amusing that you say they are too easy to hack and too much hassle - I have yet to put my life in jeopardy due to someone ‘hacking’ my phone or it becoming too much hassle haha. I find that reasoning quite funny.
@FTL Social hacking: Lose your phone or get it stolen, then tell me how amused you are afterwards.
Smartphones do not deserve gaming snobbery. There are loads of really good games on phones, from Horizon Chase all the way back to Super Monkey Ball on the original iPhone. My iTunes purchase history is testament to this fact.
One could be equally snobby about home consoles. The Xbox store is littered with just as many crap games as the app store.
@Shiryu Done that many times - Still breathing.
@Anti-Matter
Sorry, well, I mean about of Mobile games are not "true" gaming, for me, That exclamation / idea / thought is already too much exaggerated for people who do not like or hate games for smartphones and personally, it is annoying; if you don't like, as I've always said, it's okay, it's normal that something is not to everyone's liking, but to find for something negative and in some cases, to annoy those who like that (mobile gaming in this case), it's not fun anymore, even for the internet drama.
Sorry, I know that your don't bother people, however, your statement in a post:
"""Because looks like you have return on >>>Real gaming<<< habit, Consoles / Handhelds"""
Well, I don't like, but, well, no problem; All this in this post is also, my opinion, well, Sorry again.
I started with Kingdom Hearts Unchained/Union Cross. And that's embarrassingly enough because my crush started playing it.
What I've found is they're very addicting games, but they're also horribly repetitive and the "microtransactions" are not "micro" at all. When someone told me microtransactions were a thing I was thinking $0.99 not $15.
I have no interest in the Mario game. The Animal Crossing game is cute, and thankfully the motivation to spend money is currently almost entirely for those who aren't patient. That's the way it should be. Although having to wait the same amount of hours for a table to be crafted as a building is a bit absurd, don't you think?
call me an old geezer but phone is used for calling, texting and googling stuff when arguing with someone or when your brain refuses to remember things
Sure the mobile games Nintendo has been making are good...but only by mobile game standards, which for the record is much much lower than games on actual dedicated gaming devices. Games I can just pay up front for in full that don't come with microtransactions (Mario Run aside, but if I want to play a 2D Mario game I have a million better ways to do so).
So no, Nintendo hasn't ever been able to grab my attention to any mobile game for very long, because I have so many much better choices on hand if I want to play a game.
@SonOfVon
Ah, me too.
I use my smartphone for WhatsApp, phone calling, browsing Google, Youtube, email, etc. Not for gaming even i have installed Miitomo.
@RadioHedgeFund
If the smartphone games are Ports from previous consoles (FF IX, FF Tactics War of the Lion, FF III, FF IV, FF V, FF VI, etc), those games are really great. Also, we have to pay those games to play.
But if the games are for Casual (Non gamer), usually the gameplay and graphic quality are pretty Rubbish. Not even a game at all.
I still don't have any interest in playing these games. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
@WaveBoy
I'm 33, about to be 34 come January.
I had a NES and SNES growing up, N64 as well. But I wasn't really "into gaming". I just happened to play video games sometimes. Bought a GameCube to play Metroid Prime after watching my bro play every day, and checked out my beloved F-Zero with the new, "cutting edge graphics" F-Zero GX, but even then it was just a passing interest. Even 3DS was more a passing interest. PS2, PS3, PSP... all passing interest with one or two games I never really played.
It wasn't until the Wii U that I actually got into gaming.
Feel like there's a lot of dismissal of mobile games as predatory trash and just general smartphone doom and gloom without bringing up the topic of personal responsibility.
Personally, I do game on smartphones. It's not my first go to for gaming (that would be my Switch and to a lesser degree now, my 3DS). But there are some genuine, high quality experiences to be had in mobile gaming. Whether that's on an iPhone, iPad, Kindle Fire, etc...
As for Nintendo's offerings? Super Mario Run is the only one I've connected to. I tried FE and just didn't click with it. I'm trying AC and I think having played New Leaf for probably almost 400 hours, I really just want a full fledged console game.
For me, it took Sonic Dash to ease me into smartphone gaming. That said, I'd rather play Super Mario Run instead of Sonic Dash, or even Christian Whitehead's Sonic 2 or CD ports, as impressive as they are.
Nintendo's smartphone offerings have only made me realize how much better their Switch offerings are. Smart device games with Nintendo's polish are ultimately still smart device games.
I don't like mobile gaming (nowadays I don't have any installed) and the only game from those I tried was Pokémon go but I deleted it after 3 days as it misses the best part of the game (battle system). I don't care about runs so I never even tried the smr demo and I hate free to play games. I am loving the loot boxes debacle and I would love that all micro transactions would be put under a gambling/18+ note so less whales and children are catch by it. Mt are a cancer to the gaming world and need to be fight back.
I’ll never be a mobile gamer. A part from awful controls, mobile games are made for impulsive people to spend money. They are never designed to be fun, as from the outset they are designed to revolve around micro transactions
Hhahahah same here. I hate smartphone crap, but FEHeroes is my main "on the go" game right now!
Not really a fan of Nitnendo's smart phone offerings.
I did spend a fair amount of time with Pokémon Shuffle, but ultimately I can't recommend it. Too full of gatcha and convenient grind-dependant level design mechanics.
I wanted to like Mario Run, but it ran quite poorly on the device I have, and the demo/free-to-start payment point felt too arbitrary.
I’ll admit i only play Nintendo smartphone games.
The mobile game experience is different than handheld consoles. Its like a photographer that is used to putting in the time and effort for a deeper photography experience eitj a real camera versus having to use their phone simply because they don't have their real camera with them or didn't have the time to invest in a deeper experience. In that situation a mobile game works well. On a train between stations and have 5 minutes? Maro run is great for that.
@Anti-Matter I think there's a bit of depth in that discussion.
For example, I would say most young people who would have been console gamers back in the 8 bit era are actually console gamers these days. The NES, which was a huge worldwide success that single-handedly revived the industry, sold 60 million copies. These days, the most successful consoles tend to sell well past that - the PS4, for example, has already tied the NES lifetime total, and is still very much alive and selling well.
Smartphones actually tend to appeal to a different type of demographic. A lot of smartphone gamers are people who would never be interested in a dedicated console anyway; they play because the games are available right there on a device they're taking everywhere anyway. This also helps explain why the free-to-play model is so prevalent in smartphones, as their audience isn't really the kind of people who wants to shell out more than a few bucks upfront for a game.
Sure, there's some overlap, but the crazy numbers some smartphone games achieve is only possible due to this situation. Smartphones and consoles really are different animals with different audiences, so it's hard to really compare them in a straightforward manner.
"the exception to this rule being my beloved Sony Ericsson Xperia Play, which quickly became packed with emulators for a whole host of retro systems"
Confused. Wouldn't it make more sense to get a new smart phone every other year instead of every year, and use the money left over to purchase legitimate copies of the retro games?
@ricklongo
About smartphone gamers, is it possible to convince them to leave from smartphone gaming to become console gamer ?
Because, i think it depends on environment and situation that built their mindset about gaming. If there are a lot of people tends to smartphone gaming, they might have interest with smartphone games mostly since only that things familiar with them, they see those things everyday. But if those peoples have introduced by consoles or handheld since they were baby, i believe at least they still have interest with console gaming.
Sadly , not all console gamers stay forever. I can see my siblings and other my family relatives (Cousins, Auntie, Uncle, etc) tends to be a smartphone gamer while i still manage myself to be console. / handheld gamer until today.
It felt like kind of Betrayal from them.
What makes me wonder, why can i manage to stay in console / handheld gaming, but they leave from console / handheld gaming ?
Sometimes, i feel envy whenever i watch Nintendo machines commercials that portrayed dedicated gamers that can accept the existence of console or handheld gaming, also when the commercial shows a Happy Family from Daddy, Mommy, Son, Daughter, Relatives, Friends can get into the games. That situation is very contrary with what situation that i found in my family life. There is NO dedication or any interest about console / handheld gaming , especially the Elder. Whenever i tried to introduce my gaming gadgets, they rejected to accept the existence. They think it shouldn't be exist, it just for kids, i shouldn't be play video games like that just because i have to be behave with 100% adult manner or they behave like they will never understand and able to play console / handheld games because they think they don't deserve or not suppose to play those things as Adult or Elder. I felt sick. I felt a lot of Rejection and Betrayal from a lot of people around me. That makes me become a Rebel, Rebel in good way. I made some statement that i will not change my mind whatsoever. I feel that i have a Mission to convince someone to get into my hype about console / handheld gaming. I felt the world nowadays are my Worst enemy.
@Anti-Matter Like I said, it's complicated. I fully believe a kid, who is used to smartphone games because that's what their parents introduced them to as an infant, can end up being enthralled by consoles if they get the chance. Others, namely older people who use their smartphones because of its convenience, are going to be a tougher sell. And some, like my girlfriend's 60-year-old godmother who is hopelessly addicted to Candy Crush, will never in a million years be interested in sitting down in front of a TV to play Zelda.
Of course, those are broad stereotypes; at the end of the day, it really depends on the particular person. If you think someone could be into the wonderful world of consoles if properly introduced, by all means go for it!
@Anti-Matter As for why you keep playing consoles while your relatives have moved on, it's a matter of taste, like anything else. They probably found other hobbies as they grew up, or maybe they have a real life situation (like a child, or a long-hour job) that makes smartphone gaming much more suited to them.
Miitomo was meh. Despite it's mehness I played it until it came out with that big Update. The Update was nice but I was still bored so I uninstalled it.
Super Mario Run - played the demo for 1 or 2 stages. Was fun but never purchased the full game. I was irked at Nintendo for delaying the android version of the game for months. I would have bought the full game had it came out simultaneously with the iOS version.
Fire Emblem Heroes - I played so much of this that once at my friend's house I actually used up all of my phone's cell data and was charged for overages (He doesn't have WiFi and I only have a measly 2 gigs of data). I loved this game but it's now uninstalled. (As with all of the other DeNA/Nintendo smart device games, once I'm done with them, I'm done.)
Pokemon GO - this is still my only experience into the Pokemon universe and I love it! I've got the Pokemon GO Plus accessory and usually take it with me when I go out jogging. I'm currently at Level 29. This is the only smart device game game I've actually spent money on. A dollar here, a dollar there. But that was last year. I still play it just about daily but refuse to give it anymore money. I have over a hundred pokeballs and I'm good, bruh.
Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp - I love what I've played so far. Have been too busy to really invest much time into it though.
And look at the time, I must be up and out of here.....
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