Sometimes Nintendo takes an established idea and makes it very, well, 'Nintendo'. It made a deathmatch-style shooter but decided it shouldn't be all about killing, so we got Splatoon, for example. It's a broader trend through the company's history, too, especially in the hardware space. So it was with Miiverse, a social network - of sorts - that was given a big push with the launch of the Wii U. Like the system on which it originated, however, it struggled both in terms of forging an identity and in winning over a large audience; now Nintendo is preparing to close it down.
As a product it got off to a great start at the heart of what became - for a time - one of the most recognisable Nintendo memes. The Wii U app was revealed in the pre-E3 show of 2012, which famously brought us Non-Specific Action Figure.
The idea was pretty clear even at that early stage, with Miiverse being a social space for Wii U owners to help each other out in games, share screenshots and chat about all things the big N. It largely achieved those goals, too, on a functional level, eventually arriving in web browsers and on the 3DS.
For a while the network was undoubtedly popular, and deservedly so. It tapped into the key selling points - or not, as was unfortunately the case - of the Wii U and its GamePad, with arguably the coolest feature being the ability to draw posts. Over the years I've admired the genuine artistic talent that's been on show through Miiverse, and it's at its best when users are sharing awesome fan-art or even touching remembrances of Satoru Iwata.
For a time Nintendo gave Miiverse a big push as it equally strove to push the Wii U towards success, with developers playing their part in sharing contests, news and little bits of info on games through the platform. For months ahead of the launch of Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and its 3DS counterpart we had frequent posts from Masahiro Sakurai to reveal news on the game, highlight key gameplay details or even just to share funny shots of Luigi looking very relaxed.
In some respects Nintendo's ambition for Miiverse began its downfall, however. The initial quest to have forums / pages for every game seemed interesting, but as the Wii U got flooded with download games (and then the 3DS Miiverse arrived) it all got extremely busy, and there was the fundamental issue of splitting up the audience between too many segmented spaces. With the modest userbase on Wii U getting spread thin, some rooms became ghost towns.
Nintendo not only spread the platform thin, but it then attempted heavy-handed moderation. I'm not against the idea of keeping Miiverse relatively clean, but it was a tough task that was doomed to a prolonged struggle. Nintendo would sometimes be heavy handed with moderation or rule changes and annoy users, yet it was never hard to find pictures of a certain part of the male anatomy; famously it was one of the first things I saw in Nintendo Land on the console's launch day, and I wasn't alone in that. It was a case of Nintendo being a little too optimistic about human nature, unfortunately.
A bigger problem, and something that turned me off eventually after enjoying the service for a while, is that it was a slow and clunky platform on Wii U and 3DS. Activities were limited on the web browser version at first, and it had lengthy load times on the actual consoles. By the time you boot it up and find the game page you're interested in it's easy to lose interest. Nintendo was likely dealing with technological limitations, and posting screens directly from games was pretty smooth, but when compared to actual social networks it just wasn't slick enough.
On top of all of that, it's not hard to understand why Nintendo is ditching it. Falling user numbers (which is mainly Nintendo's fault, to be fair), the costs of maintenance and moderation, and the fact that it just doesn't fit in anymore. In some ways the decline of Miiverse matches a similar loss of relevant for Mii characters. Yes, Miitopia was recently released alongside the New 2DS XL, but the avatars are not prominent on Switch. You have to dive into system settings to create one on the new system, and plenty simply don't bother to do so. The Mii era is slowly drawing to a close, or at the very least is becoming less important.
It's not all bad, though. I think Miiverse did some good things, and it was a fun part of the first couple of Wii U years, at least. It probably taught Nintendo some useful lessons on internet services, logistical and otherwise.
And the spirit of Miiverse lives on, too, with its recent inclusion (sort of) in Splatoon 2. The Switch 'News' tab is also reminding me a little of the Miiverse game pages, at least in terms of developers and publishers sharing updates. The implementation of 'gifts' through posts for The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild is neat, with the posts having the informal tone we used to see on Miiverse, and some download-only games have their own news feeds that we can sign up to. Yes, the user response and social dynamic is gone, but there are similarities nevertheless; notably, the capture button and speed with which you can post screens to Twitter and Facebook means we can still share Nintendo zaniness through those platforms.
Perhaps that is the way forward, especially with the optional handheld mode / touchscreen of the Switch; revive aspects of the Miiverse idea occasionally, when it's a good fit. I loved its presence in the Splatoon 2's first Splatfest, with loads of player messages and drawings displayed around the hub and even in the new stage.
Miiverse may be remembered as a Nintendo oddity in years to come. That said, it served a purpose, gave us all some memories and asked the big questions.
Why can't Metroid crawl? A question for the ages.
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Absolute highlight of Miiverse came on day one, when the ZombiU leaderboards appeared on walls in the game, as did clues for hidden items to find. Never managed to top that.
Miiverse was a wonderful idea. I never used it much but I see now how much it meant to people.
But doesn't this break all the games? Super Mario Maker uses it a lot! Noooo
I liked Miiverse. It was a cool idea, and as much as I like the Switch, the lack of a dedicated, Nintendo-centric community that is integrated into the system itself is kind of a disappointment.
@olrodlegacy ZombiU remains one of THE best showcases of what the Wii U was capable of, imo. A pity it (and the console it was released on) never took off. Also, Rayman Legends is the game that "sold" me on the system in the first place.
In retrospect, I think Ubisoft had a way better grasp on the potential of the Wii U than Nintendo ever did.
I never really used Miiverse but I am going to miss seeing the Miis' comments/artwork that are displayed on the Wii U's homescreen. It's a pity that Nintendo didn't integrate it into the Switch or relaunch it for the platform.
Splatoon isn't about killing?
Eh, I'm not gonna miss it. It's cool if others enjoyed it, but it never really caught on for me.
I think the problem with Miiverse was similar to the problem of the Wii U itself; It was a solution looking for a problem. People can already get game help online and they can already talk about games and share fan-art with others online, so it wasn't really essential. I rarely felt any desire to go on it. It was just another flood of social media information overload that I didn't really need. Though I think Super Mario Maker made good use of it.
My strangest experience with Miiverse was in Yoshi's Woolly World (where Miiverse posts would come up at the beginning of a level). I was just about to play the final level and one of the pre-level Miiverse posts that came up read; "Disappointing final level". While I was firstly shocked that something non-sycophantic had been written on Miiverse, I also thought; what an odd thing for the game to tell me. I mean obviously, technically it wasn't the game saying that, but in a way it kind of was. I mean, I'm sitting there waiting for the final level to start and on the game screen it's telling me "Disappointing final level". I just found it quite surreal that's all... (For the record, I didn't think it was disappointing, I enjoyed it).
[Insert obligatory Fall Out Boy reference here]
It turned into mostly a haunt of attention-seeking children and terrible grammar, but Miiverse had its charms. Also, I think cutting support in November is a little premature, seeing as Nintendo keeps claiming the 3DS is alive and well.
@olrodlegacy oh loved zomibiU it definitely one of the scarest zombies game ever!
...So no more 3DS screenshots then, huh? Bleh...TwT
I miss Miiverse. The only reason I hardly ever used it was because I didn't play my Wii U very much and (in my opinion) it felt clunky on the 3DS. But I still loved it and thought it was an amazing platform for social interaction among gamers. I'm usually more of a recluse and an introvert but I enjoyed posting on Miiverse. And getting likes from people on my drawings was a good confidence booster. XD
I met some great people in those first few months, I was uploading a Zombi U inspired comic and admiring art from a lot of talented folks.
ToonBen... are you out there?
While I stopped using Miiverse earlier this year I am still sad it's going to be gone. Some of my best memories were posting screen shots with witty captions. I remember when Earthbound was released and everyone flooded miiverse with every funny moment in the game. It was a great way to share in the joy with fellow Nintendo fans. In a way I felt more connected to my friendlist people on Wii U than I've ever done on any console. I got to see what new games they were experiencing through posts and even got to communicate back. It's a shame Nintendo didn't include a revamped version for the Switch. Having friends on it almost seems pointless.
I love miiverse. It's clunky and odd, but that only makes it more endearing somehow. Having said that, it's time has been and gone. I'll miss it, but I think it's right to turn it off now.
If Switch can't have it then nobody will.
"Why can't Metroid crawl?" It'll live on in memes. Nintendo, thankfully can't kill them off.
Reminder: If you plan on collecting all figurines in WW HD, now is the time to get it done.
@Joeynator3000 Unfortunately, not unless you mod your system, either by using custom firmware or installing capture equipment.
@rwq
Indeed, this news is quite disheartening to me. I use in-level comments extensively to include narration in my SMM music levels...
Just so everyone knows, you actually have to go to this page and click "Request Post History" in order to receive the download containing your Miiverse posts: https://miiverse.nintendo.net/settings/download_request
I had a lot of fun times on it and met some really nice people. I wonder if Samus Returns will get a community even though the service would end just a couple of months later?
I'm still mourning for the WiiU. I supported it and used the MiiVerse heavily for Super Mario Maker. I really hope there will be a new SMM on the Switch. I received thousands of comments for my courses.
It's the wait time that always annoyed me. See something cool press home screen then wait for ages for miiverse to launch then finally post something for it to get moderated. If you could line up posts and they post in the background would've really benefited the network.
I only visit miiverse now to get my free 30 silver coins from My Nintendo.
@Rocky2418
I am also known as VinnieMii. Your levels are awesome. The MiiVerse is integral to your levels. But they could still hold on their own because the music you created and how you created them is remarkable.
The best part of Miiverse was cringeworthy memes and sarcasm, but a lot of that has overflown onto Twitter and still exists in Splatoon 2's doodle/message system.
I'm going to miss it.
"y can't metroid crawl"
oh my goodness. that reminds me of the first time i found out metroid was a girl! shocking.
I actually liked Miiverse it was good to get a glimpse of games I hadn't played or had to see what people were up to in them. I find the Splatoon 2 "miiverse" thing really annoying as kids seem to post these weird memes everyday that I don't understand. Like what the eff is a trans-squid?
Miiverse was the best place to share funny ninty screenshots, super accessable too
Nobody in my Facebook feed cares about my nintendo adventures. Maybe I'll start a Twitter lol
Heavy handed moderation.
I got a warning for saying Hacker.
Should have taken down My Nintendo instead of Miiverse, now THAT is a flawed thing.
Can't stand the lose of Miiverse. It's terrible.
I enjoyed Miiverse. I used to post screengrabs on there a lot, I liked looking back over time at those moments in games I enjoyed that blew me away or made me laugh. It was like a lil diary of my time with the machine.
@shredmeister
Hey, VinnieMii! Many of your comments on my music levels were some of the ones I most appreciated - in fact, I believe I included some of them at the ends of the recorded versions I uploaded to YouTube.
Anyway, I appreciate that, and I know the music levels are still fine on their own. But oftentimes a big part of the reason why I choose the pieces I do is for the emotional connection I feel to them, which is largely due to the story/narration that's tied to them. So without that it's just missing an important element, to me.
I'm not upset with Nintendo or anything; they own the service, and I'm sure they had good reasons, like server costs and whatnot. But still, yeah, it's just disappointing.
I liked Miiverse more before they changed it into a chopped up mess. I'm still not exactly sure how that was supposed to be an improvement, it worked a lot better before, I pretty much stopped using it after that.
That comment about heavy handed moderation is very ironic on Nintendo Life. amirite @gcunit ?
Wara wara plaza probably looked really good in theory but it was so broken in practice. Quick launch was the best thing that ever happened to Wii U. How 3DS hot themes but Wii U didn't I'll never understand. I really belueve Wara wara plaza was intended to work the same as the Nintendo Land hub. We would be able to decorate it like Home on PS3 and walk over to start the games we wanted to play. It would have made sense that way, but as is it's just a waste of time.
And speaking of waste of time - Non-specific action hero was a clever idea, but how many of us ever used that camera for video chat? Four years of Wii U usage and the only time I used it was to put my face in Tank! Tank! Tank! Why didn't they make playable games in Wara wara plaza with video chat? Tic tackle toe, checkers, Connect 4, hangman. They never ever marketed the camera, which explains the lack of camera on Switch.
As for Miis, kind of sad to see them fade out, but it makes sense in a world of DLC. Why let people make their own avatar when you can sell them an additional one?
Even when Miiverse had its restrictions, I'll always remember seeing those amazing drawings and the Earthbound protest was the stuff of legend. I'll never forget that.
I hate when servers get shut down.
RIP GameSpy, Star Wars Galaxies, Warhammer Online and Miiverse.
miiverse is cool but i hate my parents
The biggest issue with miiverse was users shared nintendo stuff with other nintendo users and not on other platforms. It acted to decentivize nintendo fans sharing things on twitter and facebook to bring in new fans. Its success was kind of a own goal. Although I say this as a general presumption not knowing or ever used Miiverse.
Thanks for the Miimories...
ha ha...
yeah.
At least the switch can take screenshots; the screenshot feature was one of the most important parts of Miiverse.
Miiverse was great during the early days of the Wii U. The boards were flush with help requests, achievements and interesting play highlights. When they opened it up to the 3DS' kiddie audience the service became dreadful in about three minutes. Then there was the inexplicable revision that brought in the play journals and categorization, and what was intended to organize everything instead created a disjointed mess.
It is time to panic
Just seems way too early for Miiverse to be taken down. It's still a highly active community.
What angers me more though is that there doesn't seem to be any successor in sight for the Switch. Say what you will about the Wii U, but at least it had a fun online community. The Switch currently basically has NO community.
I just wish they would fix the image share thing or come up with a easy way to post photos and/or screenshots to twitter from the 3ds. Mailing photos to myself through the browser is insanely slow.
@rwq "Super Mario Maker (Wii U): Users will still be able to share levels, but will no longer be able to comment on them."
http://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/27329
How will this affect Mario kart 8 online play? Will it be removed?
@Link506 "Mario Kart 8 (Wii U): Players will not be able to upload game-play videos to YouTube since they also post to Miiverse at the same time. The tournament function will also not be available."
Really a shame its shutting down. One of the most iconic features of the WiiU and a rather big missed opportunity that it wasn't continued on the Switch.
Well, so long. And yes, thanks for the memories.
@Link506 Multiplayer on games won't be effected. However, the Youtube upload feature for MK8 and Smash will also be retired along with the Wii U Chat app nobody ever used.
@NinNin So long hints.
I posted to a frustrated Mario Tennis 3DS player I'd be online around 7pm Sunday for a random match. It was rare to get a match in Australia due to it being restricted to regions so I wanted to help. That message was deleted. Goodbye Miiverse!
Certainly, the community was the best part.
The people made MV what is was both good and bad IMO.
I didn't pick it up until late, but I'm glad I did.
As for Wii U Chat, it was an option at least.
The only thing flawed with Miiverse is that it's going off instead of staying on.
Where else can you find all of Nintendo's best gamers, artists and fans united?
Where else do you have a community for every game released on that platform and to share experiences, drawings, and screenshots with so easily?
Not everything about Miiverse was great, necessary or positive, but it did a lot of things that were.
And implemented right, it even enhanced games.
Without some kind of Nintendo community (not necessarily Miiverse but maybe something even better) it feels like we're going back in time, not forward.
Miiverse's closure certainly feels like the end of an era. I will miss it a lot because it added more soul to the games using it. Being a member of it felt like being a part of the Nintendo community, and the fact that a number of developers such as Masahiro Sakurai used it to bring game news made the community even stronger. Miiverse can be seen as a definition of an era where Nintendo had taken a misstep with the Wii U but were also trying to understand the modern gaming community after the Wii, which was strongly aimed at casual gamers.
Also the increasingly irrelevance of Miis is sad. My first Nintendo home console was the Wii and the inclusion of Miis was a joy, being able to see me, family, friends and celebrities in fun and different situations that wouldn't be possible elsewhere. Therefore, I hope Nintendo continue to use Miis long into the future.
Bleh, such a good sharing platform going away. Thanks for the memories at least, no thanks to Nintendo for scrapping it. I'd like to think something better will replace it, but look at how worthless club.nintendo is...
I haven't really used Miiverse as social media in ages, but I did save lots of screenshots using it. Now that ability is going to go on 3DS, and the console isn't even finished yet.
As much as I mocked Miiverse, in the small period in which I actually went on there, I did quite enjoy doing Monster Hunter drawings. I was quite pleased when I got a Yeah from a Capcom employee.
I am gonna miss it, it was a only nice and unique social/screenshot/art place for nerds, and not just any nerds but Nintendo nerds..., now Nintendo is going take that great thing away... But I guess the costs to maintain it just must be too great.
HEAVY-handed moderation is an understatement! I like that they don't allow personal info to be shared, because oh yeah, there were a few creepers hanging around for sure, but the admins could be big time azzes! When this issue came up on NL and someone came to share his misery, there was always some internet Dudley Do-Right to ride in and say, "Ooh, shame shame! You must be a bad person!"
Young people, "family-friendly" sure, if you draw a giant ding-dong that's one thing, but people were reduced to writing disclaimers on their forum posts to the admins in hopes of not being struck or banned. Give people a little power, sheesh. They needed black armbands and cattle prods.
After my first perma-ban, I thought I learned my lesson, but kept stats anyway. Here's what led to my second perma-:
Use of the word hacked
Drawing of Dog the Bounty Hunter's wife in a bikini
Use of the word boosting or variations x 3
Writing a msg to the admins saying, "This is not hate speech."
Root beer stein drawings x 2
Mention of Jennifer Aniston
Drawing a lower-case Greek omega character - "sexually explicit"
Something written in Japanese
"We have received multiple invalid violation reports" - ban
Finishing Move: I said, "In the 1980s We beat the reds." *(Perma-ban plus console ban warning.)
Pucker on some sweaty giggle berries, badmins!
It's a shame to see it go, posting screenshots to Facebook and Twitter is annoying to my non-gaming friends. Miiverse was a really cool dedicated social network for gaming. I wish it had received an update for switch, perhaps loading near-instantaneously would have helped people use it more often.
While I will miss posting screenshots, I'm not sad at all that it's going. All the 'memories' I've ever had there are a bunch of young kids 'talking' to me through the use of typos and poor English. It's rare that I actually find a post that isn't mangled to heck.
@Haywired I can see why. Those drawings are awesome. Could you draw a calico patterned scottish fold Palicoe for me?
Miiverse was originally announced to be available as an app for smartphones which would have been great. As is it was a cool concept to let you experience games with others posting tips and hints for others. As a parent occasionally a comment would slip into a game like New Super Mario Bros U that would be a bit offensive or crude and that's the downside of public posting forums.
The infamous Wii U commercial showed how the potential of Miiverse should have worked.
https://youtu.be/Rwmhfh5YsmE?t=61
Back before E2 2012, Iwata-san shared an informational broadcast about Wii U and especially Miiverse.
https://youtu.be/9AkPdAWfFjI?t=1430
https://youtu.be/9AkPdAWfFjI?t=1707
I didn't use it much, but liked it anyway. I can see why they stop with it though. Twitter has taken over (and specialized sites such as this one).
As for Mii's: I was never a big Mii fan (yeah, that sounds a bit ironic seeing as I chose Mii as part of my username), but liked seeing myself as a caricature in games. I really don't see why they would end this.
By the way: Everything less is NOT more in my opinion for Nintendo. Take the Switch menu, completely music-less. A pity!
I liked it, still do, hosted events on there, fell foul of the admin more than once. But I applaud strong moderation, in a declining civilisation I found it refreshing. With a few tweaks it would be perfect for me.
But hey-ho, the only tiny glimmer left is the online petition at Change.org for Save Miiverse
I really liked the concept. While it was slooow, I never wanted to share my videogame stuff on FB/Twitter. Why not? My friends there are maybe 2% gamers so me posting tons about videogames would be the equivalent of spam to them. And frankly, I have no reason to share with them. Miiverse however - in a more modern/faster form and integrated in Switch - would be perfect for sharing cool experiences with fellow gamers.
And... I miss my Miis in my games. Why can't I play with my Miis in Mario Tennis?
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