Capcom promised details on Monster Hunter XX for Nintendo Switch during its Monster Hunter Championship 2017 event, and thankfully it delivered. The company unveiled a lot of details and a tasty extended trailer, while also confirming that the game will arrive in Japan on 25th August.
The trailer itself reveals quite a lot. We get a look at the upgraded visuals, which provide a HD sheen and some new textures but still reflect their 3DS origins. The focus of the commercial is typically on Switch as a portable device, unsurprisingly when targeting the Japanese market, but there are some fascinating details. As was the case with the Wii U and 3DS iterations of Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, the game will support save transfers to swap progress between the 3DS original and Switch version. It also seems to be possible to play online co-op multiplayer between Nintendo Switch and 3DS copies.
Check out the trailer below.
Another reveal at the event was a special edition Nintendo Switch hardware bundle, with a unique design on the dock.
All of these release details relate to Japan, specifically. For those unsure, Monster Hunter XX (Double Cross) was a follow-up to what was called Monster Hunter Generations in the West, so up to now there's been no release of XX outside of Japan. It'll be interesting to see if localisation happens, and whether Capcom would opt for a dual release on 3DS and Switch. Also of note, it was shown that save data from Generations (called Monster Hunter X in Japan) can be transferred into XX, so that could be another selling point.
We'll see whether Capcom confirms localisation before or during E3. In the meantime, do you like the look of Monster Hunter XX on Switch?
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Great news!
Looking forward to this if it is released outside of Japan (although I could just download it I guess)!
Looks so freaking hype! Ahhhhhh!!!
Releases in August, insane graphics (was half expecting 3DS graphics, but this game looks gorgeous- certainly surpasses MH3U as the most visually impressive Monster Hunter released to date), 1080p, 4p local wireless, 3DS cross play and data transfer, even Generations data can be imported!
Please bring it to America!! I would not be able to play this well with out English text..
@Dakt I wouldn't read that into it. Capcom churns our remixes / remasters to fill gaps ahead of 'main' series entries. I hope Nintendo and Capcom have done a deal for MH5 to be on Switch, though.
Forget about finding a Switch in Japan for another 10 years.
@Dakt At the last minute meaning a year in advance? If a proper MH5 were to happen and it's not a Switch exclusive, I would bet that Capcom is willing enough to do a PS4/Switch release solely because they can have an excuse to limit the graphical workload on it by using the Switch version as the baseline.
The summer will be an epic battle between Switch demand vs Switch supply in Japan once Splatoon 2 and MHXX are released
I was left monster huntered out after the last game, but with this being on something other than a 3DS I'm much more tempted to get it.
@SCAssassin
Not to mention, they will already have an engine for future games on Switch after this and, unlike Wii U, Switch is clearly the future of the Monster Hunter franchise. 3DS won't be around long enough for more than one more entry, and Switch is the only viable portable alternative going forward.
And... the system is hot, so I'm sure moving the franchise over isn't exactly something they're going to be against, knowing it's gotta slide over somewhere in the very near future anyways.
I think it's a pretty safe bet at this point, barring unforeseen cataclysmic events, all future MH games will be on Switch, even if not exclusively.
Will there be voice chat and USB keyboard support on Switch? These are now my next questions. And if Capcom drags their feet on localisation, would a Japanese file be compatible with a later released NTSC copy?
@Dakt At least it looks like a descent upscale. Let's remember RE Revelations that looked horrible in all "HD" iterations and awesome on the 3DS.
@Dakt Seeing how Monster Hunter games are more succesful on portables than home consoles, I doubt it.
If Monster Hunter XX Ultimately Exclusive for 3DS and Switch, PS4 will be doomed.
@Dakt Monster Hunter is steadily growing in the west.
@Dakt
Honestly, I don't care what they do, as long as I get my Monster Hunter on Switch!!!
FYI though MH4U did crack a million in the west alone, I imagine this game is part of their effort to reach the home console base in the west while maintaining their portable base in Japan. Win win!
@Dakt
There are some Western gamers like handhelds better than consoles, you know.
@Dakt development isn't just about the graphics, it's also about the backend. Namely the fact that you can transfer saves and crossplay between different systems locally and now through online, which 3U 3DS and Wii U didn't do.
@Dakt
"Further reveal soon"
As a longtime diehard fan of the series, I'm counting on it!
In the meantime...
WOW Capcom made my day. Cross play with 3ds!! It will sell million.
I'm so excited. I skipped out on Generations since I didn't want to play another Monster Hunter on such a low-res screen with cramped controls. This announcement was exactly what I wanted. I know it's still the 3DS graphics running at a higher resolution, but it's still miles better than a 240p screen.
Also, I'm curious when (or I guess if) this game will hit the west. Seeing as it's hitting Japan in August, it's actually a bit likely we could see a localization as soon as this holiday season. Nintendo is pushing for worldwide releases and we haven't gotten a Monter Hunter release in about a year now. I'm not going to get my hopes too high, but who knows, maybe we'll see something at E3?
EDIT: I forgot Stories is hitting west this year so maybe not... a guy can dream!
I know this is all about Monster Hunter, but am I the only excited about POKEMON STARS ON SWITCH ALL BUT CONFIRMED!!!!
Think about it, if Capcom can do cross-play and cross-save with MHXX on 3DS and Switch, then you know Gamefreak can with Pokemon. I've read (and partook in) arguments back and forth for which console Pokemon Stars would and should be on, but there is no excuse now, and nothing holding Nintendo and GF back from making it happen. Just like with MHXX, everyone wins.
@burninmylight
Wait, Pokemon Stars = HD Remaster of Sun & Moon ??
@Anti-Matter
Nah, more like the third version, a la Yellow, Crystal and so on. And just like MHXX, it would just be an up-rezzed version from the 3DS. But I'd take it with glee.
@burninmylight I feel like the Pokemon company might not want to do the cross-save system as I imagine it could open the game even more easily to hackers for save modification. I could see cross-play working a la Battle Revolution style, where battles can be shown on the TV through the Switch version of the game though.
Looks great, probably gonna import this then. Though I do hope we'll get a new MH for Switch sooner than later. Really does look about rough around the edges, which is forgivable given its 3DS origins.
That's one hell of a logo
@Danpal65
Good point, but hackers have already been eating GF's lunch for years. Every time a patch comes out for the 3DS or the games, hackers have everything back to normal with a couple of weeks.
I never got the MH hype. I had the Wii U version and for whatever reason it just didn't grip me. However I do know this is crazy popular in Japan so this is fantastic news. The Switch will fly off the shelves over there convincing more third parties to jump on board. The Switch for world domination!
@Tsurii They should take a trip to Ireland. I'm sure someone on here said something about there being loads of stock over there 😉
@Tsurii People are going to start raiding Switch factories, lol
Happy to see that the save transfer and compatibility with the 3DS are there!
Also, DAT DOCK.
I loved the GENERATIONS demo. It fixed a lot of the issues concerning combat and camera movement I had with previous iterations. This might just be my first real foray into Monster Hunter....
@Dakt You're crazy if you don't think Monster Hunter 5 will be on both Switch and 3DS. Japan has spoken, and PS4 isn't even at 5 million there yet. Meanwhile Switch is consistently sold out and Splatoon 2 and the port of XX will tee up the bat plenty, even if 5 is also on PS4.
It's kind of what I expected, it looks like they improved the textures (often in game development the textures start out high res and are downgraded to meet the system requirements anyway) but kept the models mostly the same. It's giving me Twilight Princess HD flashbacks.
It does look better of course, over the 3DS's hardware which was out of date when the 3DS launched, but I'm not sure it's improved enough for me where I'm willing to have to pay to play it online (whatever that cost is going to be).
Its almost E3, so what do you do? Release all trailers BEFORE E3, of course!
@Haru17 the Switch will outsell lifetime sales of PS4 in Japan at around the 2 year point.
Monster Hunter, Splatoon and (if announced) Pokemon will keep the Switch sold out in Japan for a long time.
Capcom, lazy? Never!
It was never going to be as exciting a new entry but I'll take it. It's been a while since I was able to play MH on a big screen so that will be great!
But still, I'm more excited about ARMS atm so I can wait.
@JaxonH "Releases in August, insane graphics (was half expecting 3DS graphics, but this game looks gorgeous- certainly surpasses MH3U as the most visually impressive Monster Hunter released to date), 1080p"
Looks no better than MH3U on Wii U and that was a lazy effort too. A bump in resolution is nothing. The Switch makes that easier. It's not because Capcom broke their back which they certainly haven't. Don't get me wrong, I really like Monster Hunter but Capcom could do so much more with the graphics at least. They're not bad and it never stopped me enjoying the games on Wii and Wii U. But just imagine what it would look like if they really went to town on it.
This is exactly as expected (uprezzed 3DS etc), and whike it may not be ideal for some, MHXX sales weren't exactly stellar according to Capcom so it was clearly a no-brainer for them. Not to mention that the cross-play will go a long way towards convincing 3DS owners to invest in Switch.
The only thing that concerns me is that this may be a bit jarring after Zelda, not bothered about where MH5 ends up because it's bound to end up on Switch too.
Localisation please!
@Dakt It's like any up-res'd MH port. I would've hoped they would've bucked the trend but I'm fine if not. And this is no way indicative of MH5 being on a different platform, that's just wishful thinking for PS4 fans.
@Haru17 I really don't think Capcom would split the base and sacrifice portability with a PS4 version of MH5. I think it's just wishful thinking. If I'm wrong, I'll eat crow. But I don't think I will be.
Are we still saying Capcom is the worst company ever? I can't keep track. 😁
Trailer looks amazing. Still not sure if I want it, since I played so much of Generations.
I've still not got round to getting a Switch, so I wonder whether they'll release the 3DS version in the West.
Looks like a very slightly enhanced 3DS port. Lazy stuff as ever from Capcom. Weak stuff.
@Kenology I'm not staking anything on MH5 coming to PS4 / other platforms or not. Even if it does, it's really not going to look shinier like people anticipate.
@Dakt Less than 5 million consoles.
Of course the games are on a downward trend — they've been repackaging and making tweaks to Monster Hunter 4 since 2013 in Japan. When Monster Hunter 5 releases sales will spike back up, although probably not to Freedom Unite or Portable 3rd levels.
I see a lot of ppl speaking about the graphics...
IT'S FRIGGIN' MH GUYS! Forget your life, embrace the hunt!
@ThomasBW84 "Capcom churns our remixes / remasters to fill gaps ahead of 'main' series entries"
Thank you! I've been waiting for someone to say this. It was funny witnessing many people jump the gun the other day and saying Capcom was the worst company in the world because of a certain article on here before it got amended. All their doing is trying to see which genre on the Switch sells the best for them by releasing games (such as USF2 and now MHXX) and working around that.
Basically, if MHXX sells well expect a MH 5 on Switch. If USF2 sells well expect either SF V or the next Street Fighter on the Switch.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
Yeah I'm sure it could look like a huge awesome AAA game if they really put the money into it but so what?
That doesn't mean the game doesn't look good. Even the 3DS entries were beautiful games and the one on Wii U was gorgeous in comparison. This one definitely looks better than that and I would know since I spent 600 hours in each of these games.
As someone who has been playing this series on the 3DS for the last several years this looks absolutely amazing. This is more than just a "resolution bump". No it's not gonna look like Rise of the Tomb Raider or anything, but this looks pretty darn good for coming from the 3DS and for being a Monster Hunter game.
Even MH3U had some amazing new textures and reworked geometry (the backgrounds were mostly still flat from the Wii entry). But here they've clearly done more than that (the backgrounds here are breathtaking). I think it speaks to how great the games looked on 3DS tbh. Almost as if the 3DS assets were simply downscaled from this and this is what they originally had- whatever the case it looks excellent. But let me tell you, I've been playing the series for years and I have been dying to see a game that looks this beautiful. Not everything has to be a full AAA visual experience to be impressive, and developers don't have to "break their backs" in order to appreciate it.
@Tsurii
I realize there's a difference (I spent 1500 hrs in the last 3 entries alone), but it's been reported that this game will even accept "almost all" save data from the first game. And you don't lose save data- it's not something you convert. It's a wireless transfer and the source save data stays on the original system (that's how it worked on Wii U/3DS)
http://nintendoeverything.com/monster-hunter-xx-for-switch-debut-trailer-first-details-switch-bundle-revealed/
Begining to be interested in the series...
@Tsurii
Oh, yeah I wasn't even considering converting my 3DS data. I was going by the fact they reported "almost all" save data in X can be brought over, which means once it gets localized (assuming it get gets localized) "almost all" Generations save data should be able to be imported.
@JaxonH
I think Sligeach Eire want the games with graphic like FF XV (AAA Visual & AAA titles) and keep bashing with negative comments for every single Nintendo Switch games. I guess...
Well the Switch is large enough that I can read the menus now so I'll give this a shot. I suspect I'll be mostly in docked mode though.
I bought MH3U as my first MH game, and I was very aware I was playing a 3DS port, to say the least. This looks to be about the same. I'll likely be waiting until Capcom releases a proper MH title for the Switch.
@Dakt If you read my post rather than ignoring it you'd know that I just addressed that. And the same attack rate for XX on PS4 would mean a quarter of the sales in Japan, with 5 million being a generous rounding up of the install base. Monster Hunter has sold multiple millions of copies several times over in its fourth generation based entirely on handhelds. The most successful installments in the franchise — Freedom Unite and Portable 3rd — were both on handhelds. You're only convincing yourself that Monster Hunter needs dedicated consoles.
I didn't like Generations and I think double cross is more of that.
@Dakt "Western gamers have shown time and time again with Monster Hunter they don't want it on portable."
Except Capcom said the following regarding Generations' sales in the west:
"Monster Hunter Generations, known as Monster Hunter X (Cross) in Japan and Asia (for the Nintendo 3DS family of systems), achieved solid sales overseas thanks to Capcom's established brand capabilities."
So I don't really know what you're on about.
Sorry for the unrelated comment, but I find it odd/disappointing there was/is no comment section on NL to respond to the first ARMS' Global Testpunch session last night (or other timezone you might be in). @ThomasBW84 @AlexOlney ?
Or can someone perhaps point me in the right direction? (not talking about the discussion forums).
Yet, there are 4 topics on Monster Hunter since then. Although, I do recognise its importance for Nintendo of course.
Can not wate lol.
It looks just like the 3DS port it is, but you know what?
My first MH games were 3 and 3U on Wii and Wii U and with every game after that on 3DS I always missed the high resolution and big screen a LOT.
Now FINALLY there is a new MH I can play on the tv and you can bet that I will buy this.
Now, Generations isn't exactly my favorite MH game, but I don't even care anymore, this is day one! If it doesn't come out over here (would surprise me) then I will import it.
Still hoping for MH5 on Switch with better graphics though.
@JaxonH
(Looked at Screenshots comparison)
So, the Switch version on Top and 3DS version on Bottom, right ?
Looked so different in details and shading...
@Anti-Matter
Yes, the resolution jump from 240p to 1080p has done wonders for this game. You can also see that unlike MH3U, all the assets are high resolution, not just some. And it's based off a far more visually stunning game than MH3U was. And it seems a lot of the textures have been swapped out too (like on palm trees or bricks by water). Speaking of bricks you can notice a lot more of them in the Switch shot, so they've added details as well. I also noticed in the trailer how fantastic the stunning vistas looked.
This is about as good as I could've hoped for. Thank goodness, no more fuzzy low res gameplay on a tiny 4" screen with C stick. I loved 3DS but gosh dang, I am SO ready to move on... to this.
@Tsurii
I plan on starting from scratch I think. I want to enjoy every ounce of this game at all it's HD glory. And want to play with others. I'll be convincing quite a few coworkers to jump in (since people are buying Switches in my department like madmen).
@Dakt But what proof do you have that a home console version would do better?
@Dakt They wouldn't make MH5 a PS4 exclusive. Portability is one of the things that made Monster Hunter so popular.
@Dakt
Okay, can you describe at least 3 Best Things to own Consoles (Not Portable) ?
Because I LOVE Portability, so I can take my gaming devices Anywhere, Anytime, Not Tied on my house. Also, I can share my gaming devices to other players easily so we can play together.
Are you having fun by Stay at your room to play "Non Portable" gaming devices alone, like live in the Rock cave ? Is that "Lonewolf" feeling you want by playing consoles ?
Sooooooooooooo.... It's not made from the ground up for the Switch? Meh.
@JaxonH Thanks for the comparison shots! This looks so much better than I thought it would. I'm not entirely convinced I have the heart of a Monster Hunter, but this is beautiful.
I read that MH5 on PS4 rumor from 4Chan, and holy sh*t, it's hilarious.
To summarize, here's the "rumor":
1) Capcom apparently signed a deal with Sony preventing MH5 from being released on NX/Switch.
2) Then, MHX/Generations was released on the 3DS and, to nobody but Capcom's surprise, became a big success.
3) Capcom then panicked, especially once Nintendo heard of the "MH5 on PS4" exclusivity deal. The failure of SFV on PS4 also scared Capcom.
4) Now, an open-world, dumbed-down westernized MH game, titled MH5, is in development on PS4 by a B-team studio.
5) Meanwhile, to satisfy the massive Japanese MH fanbase, the MH Portable series will be revived on the Switch; the new MH Portable will expand on the current MH formula and is being developed by the main MH studio.
Man, if this rumor is true, then Capcom is in complete disarray and has no idea what to do anymore.
So Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate, then?
@Anti-Matter @Dakt
Dakt has a point. Consoles are more popular in the west. But that's not the whole story. There's other things to factor in like not pissing Nintendo off who is their bread and butter with the series in Japan. So yes they'll want to bring them to console in the west but they'll want to do so without alienating the platform that continues to make their franchise a guaranteed success each entry.
Hence why Wii U got a game in the west, and now Switch. Unfortunately for Capcom, Wii U was not able to see the series to where they wanted it. I think Switch has a far better chance.
Off topic, but I think it was an excellent idea to make this game cross play with 3DS- it would've been a huge mistake to design a game only for the switch where the online base would be nonexistent. Cross play ensures a broad online community, which will help the Switch version thrive.
This could be my first monster hunter.
@JasmineDragon
I think you do 😃
@Jhena
You should give it a real chance!
@JasmineDragon @Jhena
When MH3U released, I bought it and played for an hour. Slow start turned me off, so I got sidetracked with other games at the time. Half a year later my friend at work bought a Wii U solely to play Monster Hunter, and he convinced me to play online with him just once.... that's all it took.
Yes it was a little over my head and I didn't exactly know what I was doing, but I knew I had a weapon in my hand and a monster in front of me, and I did my best to take that sucker down. The first time I cut a tail off, the feeling was so exhilarating...
Each night after work, we'd hunt online together and fight a new monster. I'd never seen any of them- on my second or third real hunt a Rathian crashed the party (this huge female dragon) and my friend was like dude... run! The thrill of seeing this ginormous monster that was so fearsome and could probably destroy us at the time... I'd never felt anything like that before in a video game.
And every time we hunt my friend would have a brand-new armor set he crafted from some monster he hunted off by himself, and every time I would be struck with envy. I'm sitting here in nothing but leather chaps and cotton knit shirt, and he's got talons sticking off of his leather cap, Big broad shoulder pieces and dragon scale armor... and I'm just like, woah. I want that!
I didn't learn the game overnight- it was a gradual learning where I picked up more and more every time I went out on a hunt. But it was so much fun the whole time it didn't even matter. And that's the thing about this game- you don't have to completely master it to enjoy the living heck out of it. You need to learn enough that you know the basic move sets and how to dodge, and learning the monster patterns just comes with experience... but there's a shortlist of crucial skills you'll need and it's not that much to learn. Play a couple times and get through the tutorial quests and you'll be hunting in no time. Pick up the rest as you go and as always you can ask veteran hunters such as myself any questions you have to help you understand the game. The monster Hunter community is notoriously one of the most helpful and inclusive in all of gaming.
Unlike, say, the Dark Souls community and their "git gud" mentality, we actually want to see new players join the hunt. You may have to play a couple times before gets its claws into you but once it does this will quickly become your favorite video game of all time (Or at the very least, close to)
@Dakt The 4chan rumor was debunked already. People need to stop acting like it's even a possibility at this point.
MH5 on the Switch in 2018-- I'm calling it now.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Have you ever taken a look at the Monster Hunter MMO? There is a PC benchmark tool available and it looks great. I'm not expecting that level of quality on my €330 Switch vs my €5000 PC but your point is valid. Even with Switch hardware they could do a lot better with a native game than this.
@JaxonH Dont worry. I promise you ill at least play the demo if there will be one. I really want to want it. Pretty much every year a new big game to invest hundreds of hours into. Why should i let that slip if theres the chance of liking it?
The thing that turned me off were mostly the controls. It was just so awkward to play on a 3ds. Also the screen was to small for my taste for a game like this. Those problems shouldnt be there this time. Oh and the cats sounds were really so annoying^^
The demos definitely werent easy but even a noob like me could get it done. And it was still a little bit fun even with the controls. Thats why i still believe i could like the franchise.
@Dakt it's doubtful that it will be only on ps4. The main appeal of monster hunter games for Capcom is that the graphics are not very expensive and the games sell well. For them to make an exclusive for ps4 it would be way more expensive and risky than making them for Switch which can pass with ok graphics because it's a handheld.
@Jhena
I think one of the best things you can do, is hunt with others asap. You can learn so much from watching and observing others. And that's where the addiction sets in too- in the online play (or local wireless now with Switch!)
I agree about the inferiority on 3DS. Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Wii U was my first game, and going from that to 3DS, on a 240p screen with C stick and 4" screen was... not ideal. But it's such a great game that I still played it.
But looking at this... it looks so gorgeous in 1080p and we'll have dual analog and Z targeting via ZL, a huge portable HD screen for on the go (setting up in tabletop mode, detaching controllers and hopping online via phone hotspot = full console MH experience anywhere).
I haven't been this excited for game in a long, long time. Which speaks volumes about the quality of the series and how fun it is.
@JaxonH Well your 3 day weekend got off to a great start. I'm glad co-workers at your job are buying Switch or you may have gone broke buying them each one for Christmas to play with you over there at Switchworld. Which I may start calling MHWorld when this comes west.
Enjoy your weekend, summer begins!
@WaveBoy and Capcom arcade cabinet and the pair of dungeons and dragons classic arcade games! & Bring the resident evil series over while they're at it
@westman98 They can do what they do like they did Resident Evil back in the days. Release the main Monster Hunter game on Switch and named it as if it's a spinoff while making the spinoff on PS4 and named it as if it's the main game. This will not hurt the exclusivity and Capcom can still deliver a great game to Switch without issue with Sony. They did the same thing with Resident Evil 3 back in the Dreamcast and PS1 days. Resident Evil Nemesis, a spinoff was released on PS1 and was named as if it's a sequel whereas the true main Resident Evil game, Resident Evil 3 for Dreamcast was renamed Resident Evil: Code Veronica.
@JaxonH Yeah i can feel the enjoyment from your words and it convinces me even more to play it^^ Just watched the trailer again. Looks really nice. Environment gives me a little bit of ff 14 vibes which is a good thing.
Now that you mention it im not sure why i never played mh tri. I think i was to late to the party and feared i couldnt play with others so i waited for a new entry which was a 3ds game.
Online coop is defnitely a thing im looking forward to. Played much more competitive games than coop i think. But theres something agonizing about competitive games if i lose too much.
Cross play between 3DS and Switch is a nice addition. I used that feature a lot on MH3U on wii u/3DS and it was awesome playing local multiplayer that way.
In this case I guess it just means those that haven't upgraded to the Switch can still join in the hunt. More inclusivity is always good.
@Dakt
I don't think so. At most, MH5 will be cross platform between Switch and PS4. A console only mainline MH would mean Capcom giving up on the Japanese market for that entry, and why any business with some modicum of sense give up on a proven market?
Japanese like handhelds, west likes consoles. Multi platform is the best answer, but a PS4 only game simply doesn't make sense. They want to expand the brand in the west, not kill it in the east.
@Dakt A lot of people wanted it on a bigger screen, since the 3DS was just way to small. I believe the switch might be the ideal platform for a mobile MH that can be played on a bigger screen at home.
Looks like BotW with muddy textures and less polygons.
Hm let me guess, they developed it for 3DS and then just upscaled it for the Switch version?
Capcom, lazy as ever...
I understand how some would be skeptical. But this just makes sense. It promotes the Switch and the 3ds, which both aren't dead systems yet while also promotes 3ds owner to move to a switch. And switch owner are happy too because they now have another game to play. Win-win all around. If monster hunter was actually my type of game, I would be ecstatic.
@shani
Posted some screenshots above. They actually don't look muddy at all- looks super crisp and clean and very detailed. For being a 3DS port, it's rather impressive actually. No doubt they just upscaled and swapped some textures where necessary, but regardless it looks really great, even more so considering it's origins.
I wonder if they'll even bother bringing XX to 3DS in the west since cross saves are possible between X and XX? Switch upgrade incentive?
@JaxonH Agree to disagree. As long as you can still its origins (and this is definitely the case here - I didn't even know it was really a 3DS port), it looks bad in my opinion.
If they had made it directly for the Switch, it would've looked far better than this.
@shani
Well of course it would have. But judging things as they are, this is the most visually appealing game in the series to date. And as a fan of the series that's exciting.
But there's no dispute that those images are crisp and clear and there's nothing muddy about them. You can say the game wouldn't look as good as if it was built ground up and that's very true but it's definitely not muddy- just look at the textures on the boards or the bricks, or how you can see each individual strands on the rug frays or the individual rings on the palm trees. For being a 3DS port the game actually doesn't seem that out of place on Switch.
Now, if you look at it expecting to see a Breath of the Wild then yeah you might be like huh, this doesn't quite look as good. But if you look at it as a game that traditionally looks like the lower images in the comparisons, it's pretty mind blowing to see the game look this beautiful now. In fact, MH3U looked great aside from some of the textures they didn't swap out, and those looked muddy, but the one thing I notice about this game is the specific fact that none of the textures look muddy like in MH3U Wii U. This time everything looks crisp- not just the monsters and characters
@Dakt MH5 is on ANITHER platform? Seriously?! I hadn't heard that one.
Looks great. I'm eagerly awaiting a western localization with save transfer from Generations... I really don't feel like grinding all those Deviant monsters again.
@Haru17 yeah, mh on ps has zero value in Japan at all. They COULD have interest in trying to leverage the large western install base of ps to grow the series in the West. But it'll cost money, and there are no guarantees the western ps audience would have any mh interest, while the western Nintendo audience had shown tons of interest.
People seem to think the big install base means those people want to play every game type. Recently disgaea and puyo (and snake pass) showed the smaller Nintendo audience can be much more interested than the big ps audience in certain games.
Might be worth their risk to try, might not. This announcement all but guarantees mh5 Switch. 3DS is an unknown. PS is an outside chance.
@Dakt Capcom is never going to make a new MH game a console exclusive. They're not that stupid.
@Flowerlark To add on that: Half the game is already localised anyway, since there are international versions of Generations already. They would just have to localise the "rest".
I imagine one of the reasons why the 3DS version wasn't released outside of Japan is because they wanted to wait for the Switch version.
If it does not have chat it's not worth buying!
@NEStalgia To be fair, MH on Vita has no appeal in japan. To say it has no appeal on Playstation in general is untrue as MH kept the PSP booming for years after it was discontinued, it was consistantly the biggest thing for years.
Although I'm guessing you mean the current playstation offerings, but just saying.
I'm flabbergasted! Wow, what a nice move, Capcom!
That's a smart move. That'll keep me playing Generations on my 3DS till I get the Switch. Then I can continue playing after I buy Double Cross without losing dozens of hours of playtime.
I'll definitely buy it!
Day one buy
they better bring this game to the west.
@JaxonH Jt doesn't look muddy at all to me. I think it's a great conversion
I actually have tried MH3 (Ultimate?...) on 3DS, and it was okay but I really felt like I needed a second joystick to play the game properly. Didn't get too far with it. But that was one of the reasons i bought an N3DSXL, to give the game another shot. But one thing led to another and I still haven't gone back to MH3. It's still waiting for me along with a few other RPGs that require a lot of time. But my 3DS doesn't get a lot of love these days.
I might try XX when it comes out, assuming it does come to the West. It looks like a huge upgrade, and I love those monster designs.
Yes!
@JasmineDragon
If you really look at it, I think it's clear why these games have always been the best looking games on 3DS. It's almost as if they made the game as a console version, but simply scaled down the resolution and textures so it could run. Which makes for a very impressive transition back to console.
I think MH3U is really best played on Wii U- the HD and online + voice chat and full dual analog controls was what made that version stand out. But on 3DS, it has no online and doesn't look nearly as good as MH4U, which was a major step forward for the series mechanically and visually.
Hope to see you in the MH forums whenever this game inevitably releases in the west!
@Luna_110 Actually, the rumor has it that Sony paid off Capcom to make a westernized version of the series, call it "Monster Hunter 5", and put it on PS4-- while the Switch keeps the traditional games.
It's a lose-lose situation for Sony either way.
@Dakt The 4chan rumor states both, I believe. It predicted MHXX by name (its only claim to credibility) and said there'd be a Switch port at launch (which didn't happen and a Switch port is a safe prediction), with the rest I detailed above.
It has no traction.
Please don't westernise Monster hunter to the PS4.
@WaveBoy power stone would be sweet. Still have my Dreamcast discs! RE6 I downloaded on PS4 and xone but haven't played yet! RE5 I enjoyed and of course RE4 was awesome!! Marvel vs Capcom infinite should also be ported! This was a big announcement for Switch and hopefully many more big games will be unveiled at E3!
@westman98 Nintendo need to increase manufacturing Supply!
@Dakt Or it could be that MHGen didn't do as well due to the hunter styles being added (and the lack of balance of hunter arts), no G rank, no story coming off of MH4's much better storyline approach and essentially rehashing all of the old regions from past games?
On the actual MH forums those are by far the biggest complaints about MHGen. Home console complaints are minimal in comparison.
Also, doesn't help that it isn't considered a numbered title by the MH fans.
EDIT: Looks like I incorrectly remembered the sales numbers.
@Ernest_The_Crab It sold 4U numbers in both Japan and the West (about 2.5 million and 1 million). MHXX is the one that sold a bit under 1.5 million (under the 2 million target) at launch in Japan, which can be pinned on 4th gen fatigue and the Switch coming out around the same time.
Styles and arts have received near-universal praise-- which is something the devs have commented on. There's a few purists who don't want any changes whatsoever, but most fans are fine with their inclusion and would just want a bit more polish in the future.
@Dakt The Switch version is coming out half a year later-- that's hardly "launch window". It's still an incredibly safe prediction from an anonymous 4chan user.
You're grasping at straws.
@CrazedCavalier I remember the criticisms of the game but definitely misremembered the numbers. Should've double checked the data before posting.
Even though I'm living in Japan I've never been interested in MH before and I don't see that changing with this game. I find it slow and boring.
But this is absolutely awesome news for the Switch in Japan because MH is HUUUUUGE here in Japan and it will make for a big spike in Switch sales this summer. That can only be good!!!
@Dakt And what makes you say it's just an upscale? Just by looking a video on the internet no one can tell. It might be an upscale or it might be not, we'll never know for sure until August.
I want a new main, in english.
But I'll be playing this once it's released in the West properly though.
Monster Hunter!
@JaxonH
Hey dude, nice to see you so passionate about MH games. Yes I like them and the Toukiden series, can't beat a bit of monster hunting with a bloody big sword
So it's basically just an upgrade of the 3DS? Honestly, still pretty interested S'long as it doesn't look like a 3DS game when it's docked. Hopefully it's priced closer to fifty bucks canadian than eighty, though. If it's a 3DS game being ported, 3DS prices are to be expected.
@Menchi187
Very true, frontier didn't do anything sales wise on vita, it was even outshined by Freedom Wars, Toukiden series and soul sacrifice games. The psp game freedom unite was huge, even now when i chat to many ppl on vita in messages, they all have downloaded it on to their vita. Can't understand why Frontier didn't catch on in Japan, let's just say if MH5 came to vita it would be huge but frontier was left wanting
@JaxonH "Insane graphics"?
Look I'm excited as the next hunter but let's not go overboard. It's a HD port of a 3ds game. Hopefully it's at least 60fps.
@Anti-Matter no. ps4 stil has better games. sorry bout it
I really hope Nintendo does the same cross play thing here with pokemon stars. It would be amazing!
It's not Monster hunter if it doesn't have disapoiting graphics.
@Dakt The whole scale of the rumor feels out of wack. Somebody was playing WoW with their dev friend who spilled the beans on all of this hours before the MHXX announcement.
If it's not a fluke, then the dev friend made up a bunch of stuff for shiggles-- the whole thing sounds like Sony shooting themselves in the foot and Nintendo still "winning" in the end. It makes no sense.
@SecondServing
To a MH fan like myself, this is a dream. We've been stuck on 3DS forever with fuzzy low res gameplay. When I look at this game, the only thought that runs through my mind is how amazing the graphics are.
It's like if they made a Pokémon game in HD with better textures and stuff- fans would be on here flipping out about the insane graphics of Pokémon.
But, I do think this game on 3DS had graphics that could match console games, easily, they were just low resolution with fuzzy textures. Raising that up to full 1080p with better textures is really all the game needed to look amazing.
I see this game and it blows my mind. A MH game with graphics like this is all I've wanted for so long- MH3U was amazing but this is better. So yeah you have to look at things with at least an ounce of perspective here.
@Alucard83
Ah, sorry but ps4 has very bad library games in my opinion. Too much NSFW games, almost no Kid friendly games.
I owned only 4 ps4 games so far, selected very carefully, only Appropriate games I allowed. And I almost have no choices for another Appropriate games (E - E10+, few Teen) and so far I have 7 titles ps4 games on my shopping list :
1. Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Teen
2. Earthlock: Festival of Magic, E10+
3. Overcooked: Gourmet Edition, E
4. World of Final Fantasy, E10+
5. Kingdom Hearts 1.5 + 2.5 HD Remix, E10+
6. Portal Knights, E10+
7. Final Fantasy XII The Zodiac Age, Teen
Guess I will treat ps4 machines as Secondary machines when I have enough budget to buy ps4 after I bought Switch machines. Nintendo is my Primary machines in my place, paired with my PS2 Slim White Japan scph-77000.
@JaxonH
People nowadays are Spoiled too much, I guess.
If not AAA graphics, they said Booo...
What a ridiculous demands...
@JaxonH I'm with you there. People act like if a game doesn't run in 1080p (at 60 fps, with ALL lighting and particle effects on) it can't possibly be said to look good. I'm sorry but I disagree. This looks good. It might not look "AAAmazing" on a good TV, but for handheld it's beautiful.
@JasmineDragon
Ya it's all perspective really. Relative to what has come before, this is definitely the best looking MH game of all the ones I've played, and that's exciting.
MH fans have been begging for this for years. I bet it's going to look stunning on the Switch screen.
People are free to continue playing MH on 3DS if this isn't satisfactory.
I definitely want one MH on my switch - Now I'm really wondering whether I should get XX or wait for MH5
@NintySnesMan
I love Monster Hunter. It's my favorite game series of all time, even more than Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, Persona or Dragon Quest.
If there's one game in the whole world I could ask for, it would be a new MH on Switch. Granted, this isn't new new, but it's still MH on Switch, and that's good enough for me.
I hear Anyonymous;Code is coming to Switch, and it's likely the new Steins;Gate Elite is coming too.
If you get a Switch by the time MH is localized, come find us in the forums and we'll hunt! I'll probably import cause I just can't wait. Can't do it. Maybe if the localization is announced and it comes this year, then I'll wait. Should have most of the menus and everything translated already from Generations. But if they make no mention at e3 or announce 2018, I'll make do with Gaijin Hunter tutorials for the JP menus. Of course, once it's localized I'll repurchase and play all over again with everyone else... just need to satiate my appetite come August.
@JaxonH
The bundle of Monster Hunter XX Switch looks boring with Black and Grey color.
At least Blue/Red and Silver for Switch's main body, like New 3DS LL Monster Hunter X bundle.
Say goodbye boring color...
@Anti-Matter I love the ps4library. Dragon Quest Builders, Bloorborne, Dark Souls 3, Atelier games 2 of them. Disgaea 5. Crash Bandicoot Trilogy is coming. It's enough reason for me to go PS4. Switch sure has Zelda, but it isn't the best... forgettable. Previous Zelda games were better. And lets wait and see how the new Mario will do... don't have much high hopes for that one
@JaxonH
Yep, I will find you in the forums, it don't matter if it's a 3ds game, i downloaded the psp MH freedom unite game on my Vita and enjoyed the hell out of it. Let ppl mock it, but at the end of the day it's still MH. I was and probably still will import MH frontier for vita, don't care much if it's all Japanese menu's, if you played MH before it shouldn't be a problem navigating menu's, don't care for the story much it's all about hunting
@JaxonH
Yeah anonymous code is coming for PS4, psvita and switch. Steins gate elite hasn't been announced for any platforms yet, only that it's coming. I expect both Sony machines will get it, afterall they always support Sony hardware, I also expect it for switch. Many vita Japan games or their sequel's will make it to switch, it doesn't cost them a arm and a leg to develop their games, so it's a no brainer really. Talking of visual novels, my favourite isn't a Japanese developed franchise, it's actually the walking dead novel games. On the subject of Japanese games, I have just ordered the physical version of Drive Girls, it's basically girls that transform into cars to get around, then transform back to human form for full on hack and slash mayhem. The vita umbral star game that's coming to switch is worth a buy, it's very good. I also think vita game valkirye Drive will also make it to switch, it got a steam release recently so I don't see why not, it's very similar to senran kagura but better gameplay and loads of girls striping with bouncy boobs lol
@NintySnesMan
Ya I have Fate Extella preordered, and own Valkyrie Drive on Vita. Didn't like it too much- not a bad game, just not for me.
But ya, there's a stark contrast between Switch and Wii U. Definitely seeing a pattern of getting quite a few Japanese games that, til recently, were only Vita/PS4. Which is a very good thing. Even if it just gets half of them, that's quite a few games. Hopefully enough to convince the Vita crowd. Monster Hunter will help greatly. That's a game where people like me will literally buy whatever system the game is on in order to play it. I buy every console anyways but, if I didn't I'd still follow that game to the moon and back.
@Anti-Matter The ps4 has loads of kid friendly games. Please stop acting like it's only mature titles because that just isn't true. I have close to 100 kid friendly (E and E10 rated) on my ps4 right now as I typing this. Don't be ignorant and educate yourself.
@JaxonH
After the MH announcement for switch, I decided I am getting one, not because of this particular MH but the incoming MH5 that we all know will come to switch, plus Japanese devs are showing a real interest, hopefully the Toukiden series makes it to switch, it's the only MH clone to stand out as it's own game thanks to part 2. I don't need to worry about Japanese games coming to
Switch, it will get many, but I would like to see some of the big games from the west, like a borderlands game or Batman, spiderman game. I prefer Japan games but I do play western developed games sometimes, actually just give me a MGS remaster that would be ace.
@NintySnesMan
Right. I play all kinds of games. Never thought myself a big JRPG guy, at least, not more than any other genre, yet every time I list my fave games it's chock full of Japanese games lol.
Don't play too much of the western AAA, not anymore anyways. All the Call of Duty games, Far Crys, GTAs, etc just don't seem to be as entertaining as other games I could play (like right now, Fire Emblem Echoes and Persona 5). I did enjoy Titanfall 2, but lost interest after a few hours. I think there are a few key games I'd like to see- Skyrim being the first on that list (thank goodness it's actually coming). I would also like to see Mass Effect, but not Andromeda. Just the OG trilogy tbh, but that won't happen. Darksiders 3 would be another, which has a chance of a port given the last 2 made it to Wii U. Rise of the Tomb Raider would be another.
But, I'm not really expecting much on that end. Whatever comes will be a cherry on top. I'm sure Beyond Good & Evil 2 will join Skyrim, and a handful of hodgepodge games sprinkled over the next 5 years, but not much else. What I do expect though is Monster Hunter, Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, Zelda, Mario, Pikmin, some fresh 1st party online games (like Splatoon, Arms and Smash), Tales, Dark Souls, a P* game exclusive (maybe Bayo3?), Dragon Quest, SMT, a Sakaguchi exclusive (think Lost Odyssey or The Last Story), and a truckload of Japanese games from Atlus, Koei Tecmo, NIS, Marvelous, Bandai Namco, and a few select games from Sega and Capcom.
At the end of the day, it's all appreciated because new games are brand new, and ports should offer the only handheld version, or the only HD handheld version, or at the very least the only hybrid version which really, seamless transition is the crux of the hardware's appeal.
@NintySnesMan Haven't you heard about the MH5 PS4 exclusivity rumour? Sure it sounds ridiculous but Capcom have done some pretty ridiculous things in the past like Street Fighter V PS4 exclusivity so it may be true.
@Grumblevolcano
Yeah I heard the rumours, i don't go much on rumours until something is confirmed. Tbh MH5 would sell more on switch than ps4, but I don't see why it couldn't come to both machines, hey what the hell bring it to vita and 3ds, share the MH love i say
@JaxonH
Hmm Sega only release 1 or 2 games a year for vita, this July will see the release of valkirye revolution from them and they have announced a new Virtual On game for vita but due next year. I think that will be the last game from them for the Vita while they lock eyes on switch, virtual on is a old franchise from saturn and Dreamcast days that definitely inspired the Arms game, it's like Ninty took that game and changed charachter design and tried to pass Arms of as a new thing but at its core it's still virtual on. Hmm square are making a final fantasy X Dragon Quest crossover game for vita, I also think this will be one of squares last games for vita, not many more after that anyway
@NintySnesMan
Ya, it's definitely wound down the last couple years, but the end is in sight. I'm sure it'll still get a few niche games here and there for some time, just like PSP did, but I think gamers and thus developers are ready to move on, just like with 3DS. Although 3DS could stay strong throughout late 2018. Which is fine, but I'm ready to move on. The worst part about Switch though is after playing on it, I want every game on the system.
I wouldn't doubt Arms took inspiration from that game- most everything has been done before, somewhere, at some time (like Monster Hunter not really being the first game of its genre, but it's the one that nailed it). But I will say Arms is a heck of a fun game. Easy to learn, hard to master. I think the controls really lend themselves to the fun factor. I've wanted a fighter with real motion integrated for a long time. Not cheap, shovelware motion but real, legit motion that works. I really appreciate the Joycons for allowing games like Arms, and a potential Pikmin- I just wouldn't want to play that game with dual analog- it's one of those rare games where you need 3 analogs- one to move, one to turn camera and one to aim, and without motion to aim it's so much more difficult to control.
@redd214
I had browsed from playasia.com to find Tons of E & E10+ PS4 games, but I only can found Less from 10 titles that suitable with my taste and interest. Most of them that I saw are Tons of boring football / basketball / USA football / racing games / fishing / uninteresting LEGO themes / etc. I have no interest whatsoever with those games.
There are Almost no Kiddie games like I found on Nintendo (Bokujou Monogatari, Animal Crossing, Cute RPG, Girlie games, etc). Don't say I am ignorant because I have owned 4 Appropriate PS4 games (7 titles in my shopping list, look at my previous post on upper) & I have selected my ps4 games carefully and Triple thinking before I bought because last I time I had ever bought Ratchet & Clank ps4, but I didn't find any interest anymore after played for 2 hours. I sold that, replaced with FF X/X-2 HD Remaster for familiar games from PS2 before. And also, I had said that I will treat my PS4 as Secondary machines when I have enough budget to buy ps4 next year ( I play my ps4 games by Rent ). Right now, I am focussing on Nintendo Switch. Okay, you said you had 100 of E & E10+ ps4 games on your library. Good for you but i'm very picky when talking about games. Not every E & E10+ are so easily can be accepted by me. If they don't match with my interest or criteria, I will never buy any of them. I don't want waste my money for the games that will never impressed me.
So if I get Generations I could then transfer my game save over to XX (or w/e they call it in NA)?
@Anti-Matter So basically there arent many games you are personally interested in, thats cool. That is a HUGE diffenence than saying "PS4 has almost no kid friendly games" which like I said, couldnt be further from the truth. Its as ridiculous as saying "Nintendo games are only for kids".
MH XX for the 3DS in EU pleeeeaaase!!
@Dakt It looks almost nothing like Monster Hunter.
And seriously... how petty can you get?
It's not Monster Hunter 5.
@Dakt Reported for spamming.
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