This week brings a delicious nostalgia overload on the 3DS, with Pokémon Red, Blue & Yellow making their way to the portable on 27th February, while Mega Man Legacy Collection lands on 23rd February. That's nine games across the two franchises, considering all the parts in Capcom's release, and fans of either series will have a chance to party like it's long before 1999.
The releases are interesting for their different approaches and the respective value they offer. That's especially relevant with the download-only release of the Mega Man collection in Europe, where it costs just €14.99 / £11.99 - don't forget that includes six NES games, Challenge stages and extras such as galleries of concept art. It makes the previous individual Virtual Console releases of the games, which cost $4.99 / €4.99 / £4.49 each, seem like an extravagant cost. It's worth noting, though, that the physical retail release in North America has a recommended price of $29.99, albeit it includes two HOME Themes and some stickers.
Then, on the other side of the coin, we have the generation one Pokémon releases, which Nintendo and The Pokémon Company are happy to milk for all they're worth. We don't necessarily blame them for that, or perhaps it's more accurate to say we're not surprised that's the case. Virtual Console releases of the Game Boy originals have been on fan wishlists for quite some time, and in selling them individually for $9.99 / €9.99 / £8.99, along with hardware bundles of various shapes and sizes depending on region, there's an evident desire to maximise the hype around the Pokémon anniversary.
Yet we also understand why some are unhappy with the pricing around these releases. Though Game Freak has implemented local wireless trading to take the place of the Game Boy Link Cable, which is a lovely touch, it's debatable whether the premium price is fully justified. A typical Game Boy Virtual Console title is $3.99 / €3.99 / £3.60, so we have a mark-up of an extra 150%, with no notable bundle discount of any kind. An offer of progressive discounts if you bought two or three of the releases (2 for $16, 3 for $20, as a rough idea) would have perhaps taken the edge off, but no such luck. If you want them all, cough up the money.
This is simple hard-nosed commerce, ultimately. With high demand comes a high price, even when the supply is endless courtesy of the download environment. Nintendo would also argue that you need not buy all three in any case, as you choose one and then trade with friends, as was the case back in the day. Based on votes in our European download update page, too, it looks like the winner out of the three could be Pokémon Yellow: Pikachu Edition, but all three evidently have their fans.
Nostalgia comes with a price, then. In Capcom's case it's scraping what it can out of its over-exposed and frequently re-sold NES Mega Man games on 3DS - following an equivalent release of the collection on home consoles and PC in 2015. Many Nintendo gamers that have wanted these Mega Man games have had frequent opportunities to pick them up, so the collection comes at an attractive price-per-game along with extra goodies to enjoy. Pokémon is on the opposite end of the scale, utilising its desirability and previous unavailability to extract top dollar with a fairly minimal change to the source material.
That's all to be expected, but Capcom's Mega Man Legacy Collection is perhaps a useful indicator of what we could see from Nintendo in the future. As we've suggested previously when considering how Nintendo can harness the Virtual Console in the next generation, while 'new' retro re-releases command a premium price Nintendo has already burnt through many of its reserves, with the GameCube - and Virtual Boy, if you're being picky - being the only systems to be entirely left out of the Virtual Console so far. If Nintendo tries to sell a lot of its iconic retro games to us again in the next generation, in some cases for the third or even fourth time, it'll need to re-assess how it makes the proposition attractive.
There are ways and means to try and do this - simplify and re-use formatting, save state functionality code and digital manuals on the as-yet-unnamed NX hardware, for one. Utilise the Nintendo Account system to offer convenient options to re-purchase at a cheap price, rather than require a Wii transfer as was the case on Wii U. Perhaps even offer some Virtual Console re-purchases as free downloads on new hardware, as loyalty / customer reward promotions. Finally there can be bundles - the Mega Man Legacy Collection is a strong example of how a solid price and multiple classic games can be attractive. We only need to look at how enthusiastically Metroid Prime Trilogy was received at its discount launch price on the eShop, also, to see how older games at a bargain price can generate current-day buzz.
The fact that Nintendo's 'premium' and untapped Virtual Console resources are increasingly thinned out suggests a future of deals, bundles and loyalty offers may be a way forward for the Virtual Console. Yes, there are multiple Pokémon generations to be re-released (should Nintendo, The Pokémon Company and Game Freak decide some are off the table for remasters), and there's also the GameCube and some varied offerings across other systems yet to be re-released or even localised. The days of relatively expensive Virtual Console games will likely continue in the near future, as a result, but the question is whether a new approach to this retro market will make them the exception rather than the norm.
Such is the strength of Nintendo's history and the quality of much of its back catalogue that there's certainly a future for the Virtual Console. Yet it's now stretched across three systems (Wii, 3DS, Wii U) with little change to its pricing model, with only occasional promotions in recent years showing a shift in strategy. With the concept now being a decade old, the time is right with Nintendo's next hardware to try some fresh ideas, with the Wii U and 3DS potentially offering useful grounds for early experimentation.
We want to know your thoughts on these topics, and the pricing and desirability of the Pokémon releases and Mega Man Legacy Collection, too. Hit up the polls and comments below to share your thoughts.
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I am going to pick up Pokemon Yellow at launch, along with Red and Blue with the New 3DS bundle, although that won't be for another month. However, I am debating on whether to pick up Mega Man Legacy Collection, only because I'm playing Fire Emblem Fates, Splatoon, and will be playing Twilight Princess HD and Pokemon later. I may just get 1 or 2 of the Mega Man games on Virtual Console then. Oh well...
I think the Legacy Collection can be a good way to package old games in a way that seems attractive to people who didn't grow up with the games. I'm skipping this one, but I know that approach has got me looking at the Sega 3D Classics collection. Just something about having multiple new-to-me classics in one place that appeals over just randomly grabbing one off the VC.
As far as Pokemon goes, I really have no interest and I think they're way overpriced. However, I also think they'll still sell tons at that price point and Nintendo must know that too.
No rip off option for Mega Man, even though it's cheaper to get each copy individual and for the price they want it doesn't even include 9 and 10 (although I guess asking for 7 and 8 is way too much and would get white knights flock up around)?
Fascinating...
It's surprising to me how many people chose the "I'm not a Mega Man fan" option. Like intensely surprising. But everyone's I titled to their opinion I guess...
Need to add option for Mega Man "I'm only getting it for the gold Mega Man Amiibo".
I have the gamecube version which is totally superior to what's on the 3DS. Not only do you also get 7 and 8, but you also get two of the arcade games, a redone soundtrack, and some maps and tips for each level in the games.
If they included 9 and 10 in the collection I could see it being worth it. But the gamecube version is about the same price and gamecubes are totally cheap nowadays. The only plus to this I see is the HD/3D support (I don't actually know if ti has 3D support).
Let's just say for how many times Capcom have re-released these games, they could've done better on making the collection more enticing.
I have never played a Pokemon game, so I have no idea if the price is good or not. Does seem high with what limited knowledge I have.
My MegaMan Collection with Amiibo has shipped, so I am looking forward to that, even though Fire Emblem will take priority for awhile.
So the European download version of Mega Man Legacy Collection is only 12 pounds?
Holy crap, that's a good deal.
Meanwhile, in North America, Capcom thinks that just a few stickers is enough to hike up the price to $30 and not $15.
Love you, Capcom
I'll be getting Blue and Yellow at launch then get Red later when I have more money. (I'm a sucker I know.)
As for Mega Man I already have the anniversary collection for the Ps2. So I'll pass.
I don't mind the price on the Pokémon games, $10 is definitely less than the go for second-hand and being able to have them digitally on a new system. The problem is that they are so much more expensive than the other Game Boy VC games have been. $2 more or so, since they added the ability for local wireless trading, would be much easier to swallow. They definitely will need to give a discount for buying more than one.
Figured out @ThomasBW84 wouldn't resist the potential offered by the timing of Pokémon Generation 1 and Mega Man Classic Collection's simultaneous release for an editorial
If I wanted to play Pokémon red, blue, or yellow, I'd pop in one of my many cartridges of each on my Super GameBoy. While I know this isn't realistic for everyone, I love playing the games the way they were originally intended. Same goes with Mega man, but I'll have to buy that since I'll need it for the amiibo collection (damn you Nintendo and capcom).
Unless you can play the Surfing Pikachu minigame in Pokémon Yellow, I won't be buying any of the VC releases since I have Red and Blue on cartridge. I'll rather buy Pokémon Yellow cartridge just to be able to experience the only part in Pokémon Yellow I've never experienced before. As for Mega Man, I've already bought 1-6 individually so no need for them either. I'd like a Mega Man X collection though since I haven't bought any X games yet.
I'm avoiding Mega Man Legacy Collection and the Pokemon VC since they're screwing over Europe with these.
With Mega Man Legacy Collection, they're not releasing the Gold Mega Man amiibo in Europe, and this will be far too expensive to import since its bundled with a region locked game.
As for Pokemon VC, Japan got codes with theirs to get a free Mew in the VC games, but they don't appear to be doing this in other regions.
I would have happily chucked money at these games if Europe received the same content as everywhere else. Instead, I'll spend my money on other games.
LOL @ forever whine about the price even though there's more to it than a normal game now that they tweaked it. Also considering the time you'll spend on Pokemon if you play it through to the end, it's worth $10. If you play it "properly" you'll probably spend more than 10 hours on it so it ends up being less than a dollar an hour of fun. Properly, meaning without cheating or speeding through it to reduce the time to the smallest amount you can.
I couldn't care less about free Mew codes with the JP versions, I'd never use Mew anyway. I can understand the Mega Man thing because of no Amiibo but the Mew code? Aye....
I'll be getting Yellow at the very least, I'll probably get Blue too seeing as I have a cartridge of Red still. I'd like to get the other two cartridges but it's at least $20 to $30 each for Blue and Yellow so this is a much better value.
Only reason i'm getting yellow is because i won an eshop voucher otherwise it would be a big fat no from me. £6.99 yes but theprice is just greed. This will be my first pokemon game so nostalgia doesn't affect me. I understand the cartridges are more expensive but sometimes no wonder people go down the non-legal route
I am getting all of it. I really truly want mega man digitally because it would just be more convenient to be able to just fire it up but since I don't get a gold Amiibo, postcards, or themes, I'm going physical.
As far as Pokemon goes, red and blue are coming preloaded onto the bundle I have preordered and I'll probably end up getting yellow just because... Well... You gotta catch em all.. Even if it's Pokemon games and not Pokemon.
I'm just so very excited for this month and March 1st with PopoLoCrois since all these big releases are coming out.
Bring on the golden days!
EDIT: Despite my enthusiasm, I do definitely wish there were options to play red/blue in color mode but it's seriously not a deal breaker by any means. What SHOULD be the deal breaker is the lack of mega man 7-8-9 in the "legacy collection".
I understand what the word legacy means and all but that would've made for a sweet(er) deal overall. I got for convenience, that is having it all on one cartridge or download. If they come out with an X collection or something where there's half X collection and 7-8-9 on it I'm going to be upset. Anyway, I'm buying it all anyway so whatever. Can't always get what you want.
I'm planning to pick up Yellow for those times when I've only got my 3DS with me on a trip, but otherwise I really enjoy popping in one of my original cartridges and playing on those.
As for Mega Man, I'm pretty bad at the series, so I'd be willing to put myself through some abuse if it was priced at $20, maybe even $25 would get me thinking, but for $30 I'll buy a new game that I might be good at.
Used to own Yellow. Personally I prefer Leaf Green. Better Pokebox organization and the sprites are a bit nicer.
@medalofhonorfan
6 games for 30 bucks isn't Highway Robbery for a physical copy. Especially considering the fact that we in NA usually pay 40.00 for a 3DS game that has one title on it. Especially its from a big, well known company. Anyone who whines about 30 bucks for a 6-for-less-then-the-price-of-1-deal but ignores 40-for-the price-of-one is a tad hypocritical.
I dunno, I think $10 is fair. $30 is a bit much to get them all, but I think most people will only need to get one.
Where's the Pokémon Green option?
I admit, I'm likely to, eventually, end up with all 7 Gen 1 games across my various 3DSs.
@Yorumi Take into account the development time spent on porting and adding wireless capabilities for trading.
This wasn't a free process for Gamefreak/TPC.
There's nothing wrong with people liking the gen 1 games despite being inferior to their remake counter parts. They're the games that started it all and thus hold a special place in the hearts of many across the world. Just because you personally don't care for them and would prefer releases of their remake counter parts doesn't mean that everyone else would. Those don't have the same nostalgic value as the first games for a lot of people.
@TheHeroOfTime333 My only guess as an explanation is too many people are too young for the Mega Man games. I mean prior to Mega Man 9 in 2008 the last Mega Man game was released in 1997. I think the majority of Nintendo fan's presence is largely in the teens so most people were probably born after MM8 even came out. And likely they find the older games (and 9 and 10) too hard.
I don't have a gameboy nor the original cart so buying both would end up being more than 10 bucks for me. My 3DS XL is fairly new as well so I think I'll get more out of it for a longer time than trying to just play the original carts on the gameboy. I never played Yellow so I will be grabbing that one and maybe R/B later on.
@KrakenSoup
ZX games, Mega Man Zero Collection, 8, 9 and 10. Dunno what your talking about.
@Yorumi That still requires work, time, and money. While the process is different, in the eyes of a casual consumer emulation and porting aren't all that different. Don't be that guy who gets all bent out of shape when people use the wrong terminology. No one likes that guy.
Still think Nintendo's pricing for these games is a bit off when looking at their competitors. Ideally, the best games from their history would have a bit of wide-screen spit and polish, and get bundled together for say £15-£20 for four. Great games, but Nintendo's competitors have shown that great games from yesteryear do not deserve a premium price tag, especially when there's been nothing added to them to update them in some way.
@Yorumi $10 isn't a lot of money, and they still had to work on making wireless trading possible.
I'll likely get the Megaman collection, never played any game of the original serie despite always be tempted to try out their devilish challange.
Regarding Pokemon I'll skip, the nostalgia is huge for me, but I'm not much into replaying games I already beated and the price is a little too high for my taste.
Althought in this case it really helped out that I managed to retrieve my Blue cartdridge a couple of days ago (I prefer Red, but I don't have the heart for delete the 200+ hours I putted in it as a kid XD ).
Sure, I'm afraid the battery could give up any moment and I'm too lazy for trying to change it, but luckily restarting the game made me found out I really could be not so interest in replaying the whole thing as I already stopped playing after beating Brock ^_^;
Even if I have to admit that replaying the begin of the 1st gen was an amazing nostalgia trip!
Whatever,I'm probably going to buy Pokemon Yellow anyway.Everyone here can stew in their negativity.
@Yorumi
Is Yellow in color?
@Tempestryke Way to completely miss the point of what I'm saying. I'm not talking about the value of MM: Legacy Collection compared to other games. I'm talking about the value of the exact same game but in different regions.
Let's throw out the $50 NA collector's edition for the sake of ease.
The European download is $15. The NA physical copy is $30. What are the benefits of getting the NA physical copy? 2 themes and stickers (so basically nothing). What are the benefits of getting the European download? 15 dollars in your wallet.
Why Capcom didn't make the $15 download, the $30 physical copy, and the $50 collector's edition available everywhere is beyond me.
@Yorumi Oh no, you have to pay a couple more bucks for a game that sells for quite a bit on Amazon new, and is hard to get in an acceptable condition used. Not to mention they had to work on making trading possible. But oh goodness, that's such a small thing that it's completely trivial in your mind.
The gaming community complains about anything and everything. I'm pretty sick of how entitled everyone is.
Picking up Pokemon Yellow this week for sure.
As for Blue (which I've still got) & Red, I will as it'd be awesome to have my fav pokemon games all on one handheld (especially if Gold/Silver or HG/SS ever come to the eshop in future), but more likely April/ May onwards though - I'll have more than enough to keep me occupied til summer with Bravely Second, Stella Glow, Legend of Legacy, PSMD, Hyrule Warriors Legends & Pokken Tournament too plus others in my 3ds backlog.
As for the MegaMan collection, I'd be tempted if there was a physical version for UK/EU otherwise I'll wait til I finish the above or am need of a fun platformer.
@medalofhonorfan
Still, its a good price and other people's currencies are different then others.
@BlatantlyHeroic
Boy ain't that the truth?
I've got Mega Man with Gold Amiibo being shipped from US GameStop and plan to get the Japanese version of the game to play. Or I'll pick up the US New 3DS with Pokémon faceplates.
I also plan to get all 4 Japanese Pokémon 2DS systems.
I'll be getting Pokemon yellow,not sure about mega man, I've never played or been interested in mega man so don't know about that
I've been gaming since the mid-80's and was an original owner of a Game Boy. I remember when the Pokemon craze first came on the scene in the mid-90's but I guess I was too busy playing Mario Kart 64 and GoldenEye007 that I never paid Blue and Red any attention.
To this day, I've still not played one Pokemon game. Ever. Any of them.
I always said the only way I would play Pokemon was if Nintendo released the Gameboy color originals on VC.
Will I get these? You damn right I am!!! Better late than never, eh???
I've downloaded 1-6 on my 3DS and 1-4 on my Wii-U, still bought the Legacy Collection. Mostly for the extras (gold Amiibo) and so my wife can play the games on her 3DS.
I'm sure this has been covered, but I'll ask anyway. Is there any option to have red or blue appear in color the way they did when played on a GBC? I always played blue with the blue tint, and red in red. It'd be silly to have to play in greyscale, in my opinion.
Price on the second hand market does not have a bearing on whether a Virtual Console release is good value or not.
That Pokémon RBY is being sold at the same price as Metroid Prime Trilogy was at launch is nothing short of scandalous.
Having said that, I will likely buy Yellow. I am so weak...
@Yorumi No, I just think criticism on something so trivial is pitiful.
If they charged $15 and over? Yeah I'd criticize. If they removed gameplay features? Yes you bet. However those things haven't happened, and those are the only things that warrant criticism.
Im a sucker for Nostalgia and Bundles. Keep it coming Nintendo!
@Yorumi Dude, you need to chill. I'm just saying that the price point is justifiable, and that the price point is pretty cheap compared to what the games are going for on Amazon when bought new. Not to mention wireless trading is a feature that makes it arguably superior to the original titles.
You can think what you want, but this shouldn't be a big deal like you're making it out to be. Twilight Princess's price on the other hand IS a pretty big deal because the work done on the game isn't equal to that of a new title made from the ground up. $30-$35 is truthfully the price point it should have been, because all they did was update the resolution and textures.
I'm fine with $10 for old Pokemon games. It's not like they're pure ROM dumps, given the fact that they're making the trading work wirelessly.
I totally understand the people who do think they're overpriced, but frankly, I'd much rather pay $10 to replay my favorite Pokemon gen than $40 for the recent GBA remakes.
If Capcom had sold the amiibo individually I wouldn't be getting the collection. But at least I only have 2 of the games, only one on 3DS. Thankfully the Wolf Link amiibo can be bought on its own, worldwide.
Regarding Pokemon, I have issues going back to HG/SS, so I will probably be skipping those. I do think they are using the titles themselves and their nostalgia to overprice them.
I have Mega Man Legacy Collection on PC but as a portable release it still makes me consider buying it again. The idea of playing it on the go is interesting.
Pokémon is too expensive for me. I don't see the point of buying these games if I can still play the superior GBA remakes FireRed and LeafGreen. If there had been something substantial in these games not in the later titles in the series, I'd have liked the idea of having them in digital form. Unfortunately, the first generation is just too bare-bones to still show its depth in an age of online multiplayer, breeding and Mega Evolution.
For those who will download Red instead of Blue: why? Blue has much better Pokémon overall by gen 1 standards, and even if you want to get red because "fire Pokémon are so cool", there are actually MORE fire Pokémon in Blue (but actually Magmar is probably the only Blue-exclusive Pokémon that's worse than its Red counterpart, Electabuzz).
@Yorumi I'm not saying you can't give your opinion, that's perfectly fine. I'm just explaining that the $10 is pretty justified when looked at from a different angle. Having discussions over things is a part of socializing. It's good to have discussions.
Also, insults aren't chill man. Not chill at all.
@AlexSora89 Of course!
It seem that the yellow version is the enhaced one... will it have colors?
I still haven't decided which one I'm getting. Not super happy with the price point so I'm only picking up one instead of all of them like my original plan.
Also apropos of nothing Mirai DX is on sale on amazon for 20 bucks and everyone should buy it.
Pokemon not having a bundling option doesn't bother me because why would you buy more than 1 version on the same system??? If they're on the same system you can't trade so what's the point. My wife and I both have a 3DS and my kids share a 3rd one so if I do get more than 1 version of the game we'll get it across more than one system and therefore we'll be able to trade with the wireless functionality.
If we do it, I'll get Yellow for my kids (they'll really want the color) and blue for me (blue is the one I had as a kid)
Getting both Pokemon Blue, and the Mega Man Legacy Collection.
What i would really love to see is a Mega Man X Collection on PS4, XB1, PC, Vita, NX since you can't buy those on anything but the Wii U Eshop, and not even all of them. I know the PS2&GC both have it, but i didn't grow up with Mega Man, and i want to play the X Series.
I already got the Mega Man collection on Xbox One where it released months earlier, so I have no reason to buy it on 3DS again.
For Pokémon, well I probably get Blue and then my bro gets Red (or the other way around) so we can trade like back in the day.
I really do wish Nintendo would cut the price of their VC releases. Paying $5 for Zelda 1 or Super Mario Bros. has gotten old to me. It is far too much to ask for, especially since these games are turning around 30 years old. The other frustrating aspect is that these VC titles almost never go on sale. Meanwhile Sony has sales all the time on old PSX titles.
I can't see how people say the pricing is unfair while the masses resell the original game paks at a range of 39.99+, Plus we are getting an added wifi options which alot of eshop ports lack.
Between me and my wife I could be spending up to $40 for these Pokemon games. Red and Yellow for her, Blue and Yellow for me... To me it's worth it, because we can battle and trade together, truly bringing gen 1 back, but at that price... I wouldn't mind them updating it with wifi battle and trading, too lol.
A slight discount and the ability to trade with yourself and I'd buy all three Pokemon games on day one. But otherwise, I really don't have an interest in playing through a substantially large game twice in a row. It's between classic Blue and new-to-me Yellow for now.
There's no point in downloading all three Pokémon games. Just one will do.
I really do wish Nintendo would cut the price of their VC releases. Paying $5 for Zelda 1 or Super Mario Bros. has gotten old to me. It is far too much to ask for, especially since these games are turning around 30 years old. The other frustrating aspect is that these VC titles almost never go on sale. Meanwhile Sony has sales all the time on old PSX titles.
So take advantage of the sales that are available and even out the costs.
@BlatantlyHeroic LOL So $10 is ok but if it were $15 you'd totally complain too? Value is obviously subjective, but how can you criticize someone for speaking out against prices and then say you'd do the same thing with a different arbitrary number? That's complete hypocrisy.
There's no doubt that more work went into these VC games, but there's also no doubt that Nintendo's expected profit margin here is high, and that the prices could easily be much lower.
in case you couldn't tell, i love pokemon.
Why do you need both Red and Blue on the same 3DS?
I love Pokémon, but I don't care for playing Gen 1. I hold no nostalgia for it, and I'm too spoiled by the polish of later Pokémon games to want to go back to the bugged mess that is Gen 1. Maybe if it goes on sale. I'm getting the Mega Man Legacy Collection, but mainly because I managed to get the Collectors edition for 20 bucks, which is a steal for all it contains. Not sure if I would have gotten it otherwise, but I'm excited to play Mega Man for the first time!
Don't forget the collection of Sega games coming for 3ds in April, with Altered Beast (again?! What the heck!), and Sonic (again!) and Puyo Puyo (the best game), plus a few others. It's kind of funny, really. New games don't really come out much anymore so they just cash in on re-releasing the old ones over & over. That speaks volumes about the state of the game industry, wouldn't you say?
I already have yellow and red on cartridges so I'm just gonna get blue, I was looking at the trade functionality and was hoping since the 3ds sports an IR receiver I could have moved over some of my old pokemon before the batteries go in them but it doesn't look that way
@Spin not really. The gamecube version doesn't have the complete work music for the games, due to space limitations. Only the PS2 and Xbox versions have the redone soundtrack.
@Gridatttack Ah well, I know it has some tracks in it. I believe 1-6 had a new soundtrack available, which is more than you can say for the Legacy Collection I guess.
I'm willing to and most likely will get Pokemon Yellow (my personal favorite of the three), especially now that Fire Emblem has proven to be a colossal waste of money. I'm not liking the higher price point of course, and what work Nintendo did to make the games function as close to the original hard copies as possible isn't much to convince me of the $6 price hike.
But it is an RPG, no matter how old or weak. And I'm starved for one until we hear of a release date for Dragon Quest VII.
I'm picking up yellow and that is it.. I already have those Mega Mans so what is the point. Boss battles wow. (sarcasm).
Sega has good ones Phantasy Stars. All four would be awesome. They can totally do dreamcast as well. I don't know why SNES isn't on 3DS, but again I have them for Wii/WiiU. SquareEnix can bust old school Dragon Quest and they are already remastered. I'd throw down for the first four. Konami can totally take my money with Mystic Ninja games. I already own the Contras. They could do Castlevania DS and may more. Capcom has classics as well they can bundle.
I don't know why SNES isn't on 3DS,
Because Nintendo doesn't care for 3DS VC now. Pokémon is a special event, not a resurgence of interest.
I don't know what to think, while I still love RBY and the three games have the nostalgia factor to me, the fact is, all of them are extremely dated games, and I can't think a reason to play the first gen above the remakes (FireRed LeafGreen).
That said, MegaMan Collection still awesome, mainly because they are not dated games or simply doesn't have a 100% better counterpart!
Surprised they didn't charge an extra buck for Yellow having color.
I'd like to know how the language options work. Do I have to buy it twice if I want to switch to Spanish? That would be a step down for me, since I like to compare scripts for jokes, puns and other things that either get lost in translation or are over-localized.
@Spin well, the games themselves don't.
You only have access to a gallery which includes some remixes across the games, but that's it.
Shame, because the music was too much for the size limit of 1.4GB of the gamecube discs.
I'll see about importing a PAL Pikachu 2DS (if there's a decent price anywhere), but I won't waste money on an expensive, old ROM.
The Pokemon prices on VC are ripoffs. If we're going to pay that much for them, I'd prefer to just use physical GB copies, use the GB/GBC enabler mod on 3DS, or use Visual Boy Advance (VBA) Player for online/mods like Brown/Prism versions and Kaizo Crystal. (Which I've been using for over a year now.) My parents supported Nintendo and Pokemon enough on my behalf back in the day, and I've supported the local retro shop through buying Pokemon Crystal. That's enough support for the retro Pokemon titles for me.
Bundling retro series like Mega Man is something that has been done for years now, especially in the PC market. It's nothing new, and frankly I'm surprised it's taken this long for Nintendo to get the ball rolling on this. In fact, Nintendo used to be masters of this craft back in the Super NES/Famicom days, with many NES/Famicom titles being remade and remastered. I don't know what happened to them...
Licensing and legal issues aren't the real problem there, either. GOG.com expends a ton of effort to bring back retro games with entangled licensing and legal issues, even if it takes years to untangle them, so Nintendo has absolutely no excuse for being unable to do it too. They should have an entire section of their company dedicated just for this purpose, anyways.
That being said, certain games might not make quite as much sense in such a bundle. (Especially when they play differently or are generations apart.) This would include Pokemon, since you can't trade between versions on the same device.
@Yorumi
Cool, thanks. If I get one, then Yellow would be the winner!
@KrakenSoup The last Classic series Mega Man to be released before MM9 in 2008 was Mega Man Powered-Up in 2006 and before that Capcom released Mega Man & Bass for GBA in 2003 and Mega Man Anniversary Collection in 2004, Classic Mega Man took some breaks but it was never as gone as people made it out to be, and while those games weren't released, We got Mega Man Battle Network , Star Force, X, Zero, and ZX games to hold us over.
I'll be picking up my Legacy Collection collectors edition tomorrow, but honestly If there's a new Mega Man collection I'd like to see from Capcom, I'd want a compilation of the Mega Man Star Force games, They're heavily underrated I dare say the most underrated Mega Man series, and there's so much that could be done for a compilation, If they brought back the online multiplayer from those games in a new compilation I would pre-order in a heart beat, seriously those games had a crap ton of depth and content and I enjoyed every bit of them.
I really want that MM Collection. I wouldn't mind having it on 3DS and getting it on home console too. But don't have enough money to do all that right now, plus I am sorta burned out on Mega Man atm (just went thru the original on Gameboy recently).
Going to get Pokemon Blue this Sunday and that's it for now.
Was planning on getting one or two of the Pokémon rereleases, but at that price I could only justify it if they added online functionality or some other bells and whistles, or they had some sort of "buy 2 get 1 free" deal. I still have my Yellow cartridge anyway.
I'm surprised at the Megaman collection's low price, though. I'd consider it, since the only one I played through to the end was 9, but as someone already said the GC Anniversary Collection is better value.
There is literally no point in downloading more than one of those Pokemon games to the same 3DS.
I'll be getting Pokemon Red for sure. My sister is excited to get Yellow. I'm sure at some point I'll get the other two just to have them on my 3DS. Even though I still have a copy of Blue, it'll just be more convenient for me to have it on my 3DS since I play it so much.
I feel the price is fair, with or without the wireless capabilities. I actually think people should be grateful they added that. They could have easily just put all three on the VC, they're the first Game Boy/Color games to have the ability to use wireless communications on VC.
@Verg Online functionality is honestly impossible on such old games. Their coding wouldn't allow it, the only reason why added wireless communications is because that's not much different from using the link cable just without the cable.
Nostalgia can only go so far. Again I'll probably buy Yellow if I ever have spare eshop money but the price for the digital release is kind of steep. Not to mention I own the GBA remake Leaf Green and the original Pokemon games haven't exactly aged well.
I'll be downloading Pokemon Red and Mega Man Collection for now.
The prices for the Pokemon games is a bit steep, but more work did go into these versions. Also, Nintendo knows that these will sell like hotcakes on the eShop so they could squeeze as much profit out of them as possible. While these games haven't aged well, it'll still be fun to go back and relive the original Pokemon games.
I don't mess with emulators on PC so this will be the first time I've played the originals for a long time.
I won't be getting either. I own both Red and Yellow on cartridge, but I just don't find them to be that fun. They are very glitchy, and pretty unbalanced to say the least. I would rather have a port of leafgreen and firered to be honest.
As for mega man, I own the GameCube collection, but I also just don't find the games to be that fun. Sorry if I sound like a stickler, but that's just my opinion.
The pokemon games are definitely worth the money though, they're just outdated a bit.
If you don't already own the Mega Man games then yes those are certainly a solid deal in that collection, but the Pokemon games are a little different for me. I feel that they are a tad overpriced but considering that I have no interest in playing them that may play a part into my feelings on that. Ten bucks isn't much to ask for a nostalgia down memory lane, and with games of that much renown and popularity I can understand the increased price, I just won't bite.
I'd be more inclined to buy the Mega Man Legacy Collection if it weren't for the rampant chatter about the technical issues. To make it worse, there still isn't a patch to address those issues even though the developer mentioned a patch was in the works.
All said, I might buy and keep it sealed in the hopes that a patch does get release, if not, then I'll return it.
Eh, I was going to get red but my eshop balance is just about 75 cents short of ten bucks and I'm flat broke aside from rent money so I won't get it...Not til next month after rent and stuff is paid, at least. I really wish they didn't make the price so high. Really, one dollar cheaper and I could have gotten it on release day. I need a second job for video game monies.
@Yorumi: I agree with you're argument 100%. Nintendo/Game Freak is being greedy, not too mention this is going to be the 1st 3DS VC title we've received in almost a year. This is exactly why I strayed from my NEW 3DS XL and bought a Vita on Black Friday 2015. Sony seems to know what they're doing when it comes to their version of the "VC". Hell when you buy anything from the Sony store, they don't even change you tax. Aside from a handful of physical releases over the last 2 months, Nintendo has really dropped the ball.
The poll results for "which Pokemon games are you getting" add up to 100%, implying that nobody picked more than one even though we were allowed to and some people definitely did. The "pick up to three answers" polls need different coding.
Why didn't they do fire red as well? Your pokemon than will be compatible with future games. Also, don't forget that Earthbound got the same treatment.
I haven't played a single game in the Pokémon series with the exception of the 'special' demo on the 3DS, which was anything but special. I was surprised at how dated and restrictive the gameplay felt, and that was supposed to be the latest entry in the series. . . Perhaps, the earlier games are better, so I should still check them out, but that demo was one of the worst I've seen: exploration is not rewarded, most player-driven choices return nothing, and there's that annoying bumping sound when you walk up to things. The latter pretty much sums up the whole experience. Bump.
@KnightRider666 You've bought a Vita for Sony's version of the "VC"?
That's like buying a coffee machine expecting it to make you the best tea ever, or buying a snowmobile to take you across the Sahara Desert. I just hope that the deal you got on Balck Friday was a good one, because I don't see any other good things your purchase could have.
I'll let Jim take over here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUn7Ye8mDXU
@Popful I personally thought that Gen V on DS was the best gen. There's more story, great music, and fun minigames. Gen VI on the 3DS is very poor, with code that barely runs on the 3DS. The older games are definitely far better.
@Sonic4life
Don't expect the colorpalooza seen in Gold, Silver and Crystal (especially Crystal), but yeah, Yellow is more colorful than its brethren.
Well....my GBC was getting actively played for DKCII, Game and Watch Gallery, Pokemon Red nuzlockes/speedruns, and the pokemon TCG until recently. With these releases, my 3DS has my most played handheld games of all time on the system- just as my cartridge batteries are starting to go. I wonder how long the 3DS itself will last? I don't know why, but it just seems....a bit more fragile than nintendo's other systems.
Really hope someday for a VC release of firered instead, though. The originals are still fun, but firered feels a lot more modern.
It should be all 3 for a tenner
I'm in the camp that thinks that those Pokemon downloads are an absolute rip off. Yes, the Pokemon games have a large fan base but this just makes Nintendo look incredibly greedy. For that kind of money you might as well ditch the 3DS entirely and just buy a physical old school copy. They could have made a dent into the high prices on eBay but I doubt these will have any significant impact.
My theory is that they were priced highly to make the New 3DS bundles look better. Sigh.
@RainbowGazelle
I'll give it a try. After all, there must be a reason why these games are so popular.
Man, I thought it would be cheaper. Probably still going to get Yellow and eventually Red. Nostalgia wins again.
@Zyon @Verg On the contrary, online multiplayer simulating a link cable multiplayer session for GBA games has already been achieved by the VBA Link program. (Which means Fire Red/Leaf Green can already be played online with multiplayer.) That program's online functionality doesn't work for GB/GBC games... However, multiplayer specifically for Pokemon Yellow has been achieved by the Pokemon Yellow Remote 2nd Player mod for VBA-M. It even allows the 2nd player to control the CPU trainers that the MC encounters.
Nintendo has no excuse for being unable to do something that 3rd parties have already done, they just don't want to put the effort into it. As for GB/GBC online multiplayer, it would be difficult, but I doubt it would be impossible. They just don't want to expend the time and resources for it.
@Spin I'm surprised by your statement that the GC version is the better version- I'd love to have a copy as I find the Japanese language port on my PSTV to be ANNOYING to navigate menus (can never remember how to save or load save files, arrrgh!) but aren't the buttons reversed on the GC version? I am pretty good at that version after a beer or two (!!!) but it's a bit of a deal breaker for a lot of people, I thought.
@mjc0961 can I borrow that Vita football comparison forever please? Because it's one of the best things that I've ever read on this site, though that's not saying much. Though what you do say is 100% right on the money, I don't even understand why Sony dedicated the 2-3 seconds they did to showcasing the Vita in their E3 conference, it's borderline insulting considering how they've treated us owners who bought into their tripe.
@gba_girl Well I guess a lot of people would prefer the PS2 version instead. But no, I don't remember the buttons being reversed, Pretty sure A is jump and B is shot. You also get to switch weapons with the L and R buttons instead of going into the select screen. Which I found very nice.
@Gridatttack Well I know that's not right. I specifically remember being able to go to the options menu in the game, flip a setting and boom all games 1-6 have new music. Because I for sure didn't hit the gallery for said music. And I know it was the gamecube version because I didn't have a ps2 growing up.
Maybe I got a special GC version?
In all my years of Pokémon playing I have never had two versions of the core games and occasionally dip in to the third entry.
I don't think an offer on buying more than one Pokémon game would of been wise. You wouldn't be able to trade between the two on the same DS and would need 2nd 3Ds with another copy to trade between them. People would of complained that the mere presence of the offer implied who could trade
I know I've downloaded Mega Man 1 and 2 on my 3DS already, but I planned to get all the NES ones anyway - the Golden Mega Man amiibo is just icing on the cake.
@gba_girl The Japanese firmware on the PS2, PSP, PS3 & PS4 have:
X = Cancel
O = Yes
On Western firmware, it's the reverse:
X = Yes
O = Cancel
That's because the X button to Japanese players is like pressing the No / Cancel button, which is why it is set up like that.
The button layout is the same on PlayStation controllers in all regions.
@Yorumi it's a good job you don't have any credibility, otherwise that would've damaged it quite a lot. You're not Colin Moriarty by any chance are you? Comparing the 3DS to the Vita is a fallacy ring any bells from your most read article? Good times, good times.
@TheLastLugia: Yeah, I did. Not too mention all the great exclusive RPG's that are on it in cartridge form.
@mjc0961: Laugh like a moron all you like, I love my vita. I have more games for it on cartridge alone(76 thus far) than I'll ever be able to play completely. I happen to love having PSX and PSP games on the nicer screen than the PSP itself.
@Yorumi: Thanks for having my back:) I was a "Vita Hater" too. That is, until I actually gave it a chance after really looking into it and seeing all it had to offer. I agree with you 100% as well. I love the cross buys and the fact that they don't charge tax! Those 2 guys don't have a clue.
@KnightRider666 I loved that part when Sony talked about it that one time, do you remember that?
What memory card did you have to buy for all those fantastic games? An expensive one I presume?
Get used to these things dude, the Vita is a sham that Sony did a Sony on and abandoned years ago.
Welcome to the club.
@Yorumi and you just throwning that 'fanboy' word around makes you the next Obama? Get off your high horse.
@TheLastLugia: Talked about what? I never said the Vita was a perfect system. Yeah the expensive memory cards are a drawback, you win that argument there(I bought 2 64GB cards and they cost me $170 in total, and I'm going to be buying 1 more sometime this year.) However, I'd rather do that than be limited to the "300 app cap" on the 3DS. You have to take apart the new 3DS just to get to the micro SD card. Dude, you need to get off your high horse. How does @Yorumi calling you a fanboy make him the next Obama? Get over yourself.
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