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@TheLZdragon I agree, the Switch is very rapidly gaining on the Wii U's game library. And at the end of its life, there is little doubt that the library will be quite large. I am sure there will be even more games from the Wii/Wii U library that could be updated similar to the likes of Go Vacation.
I know the Switch does so many things better, it has such a faster UI it drives me nuts why Nintendo did not do more to speed that up on the Wii U. But there are many small things the Wii U does that I wish the Switch would do. For example, I still use my Gamepad as a remote for my TV. I got so use to that convenience that it always irks me that I cannot change the volume when I am on the Switch. Or how about not knowing when someone is online except when they are in a game. Or...folders.

But one thing that I greatly prefer the Switch over the Wii U, is the option for a corded controller. Nothing drove me more nuts with the Wii U than being forced to use a wireless controller with no options other than the one corded controller with Pokken Tournament.

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Dezzy

I still have more Wii U games than either PS4 or 3DS games. It did have an incredibly good library of games.

I'm still buying more as well. I still haven't got round to Pikmin 3, Paper Mario Colour Splash, Hyrule Warrios, Yoshi's Woolly World.

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TheLZdragon wrote:

While I loved my Wii U, after playing the Switch, I realized how awful the execution of the Wii U was in terms of...well...everything.

I agree but I don't think the Wii U was awful. Outclassed by the Switch? Sure. But I certainly never had an issue with the execution other than the fact that the library was a bit thin.

I guess I'm more accepting of its "flaws" given what it was trying to do. As a portable console for home use? Nothing did better than the Wii U until the Switch launched

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OptometristLime

The pilfering of a previous generations games, and then claiming them as belonging to Switch needs to stop. You wanted an uber console with a bunch of ports? Also it discredits the Wii U in its era for having those titles when they were exclusive. Seems like it happens every generation, but in this case it's even more insipid because it pits two consoles of the same company against one another. And thus it's just fan against fan like some silly civil war.

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I mean, it really doesn't matter and life isn't fair anyway. If it was, Sega Dreamcast would've been the most popular console of its era.

I will say if nothing else, I'm still enjoying my Wii U. Kinda a hold-out on buying a Switch because that costs a lot of money and I have games I missed out on or needed to play again. I'm still playing BOTW, I have 3 more games to play, I wanna get back into Smash 4 again, I wanna play Wonderful 101 again and Shovel Knight still has a new campaign coming out.

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@Cobalt I know this is not a popular opinion, but I agree with you. I still love the wii u and in many ways prefer it to the switch. If you take away the ports on the switch its library is quite small. I've only actually bought a few games for the switch, Mario+Rabbids being the highlight for me. Arms and Splatoon 2 do not interest me at all. I borrowed Odyssey from a friend and found it kind of dull. I'm not going to re buy wii u games, and there are so many indie games now on the eshop it's hard to sift through them to know what's worth getting.
Your list shows just how many fantastic games the wii u has, plus on wii u I have access to practically my entire history of Nintendo games.
I also find the gamepad extremely comfortable, while I find the switch in handheld mode kind of uncomfortable. I still don't particularly like the joycons. With the wii u I didn't have to buy any new controllers since I could use all of my wii controllers.
I understand why the switch is popular and I'm glad many people are enjoying it, but it annoys me when people trash the wii u and I never understood the hate for it.

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Alucard83

No! It was a weak console since it was after xbox 360 and ps3. We expected better. It wasn't next gen at all. It was a snoozefest. That's why many 3rd party were not released on it because it didn't have the power. THey would have to dumb down all the games which does not represent the gamestudio qualities. With that said glad it kinda flatlined. If it didn't I don't think Switch would have these specs at all, but would even a tad lower and still very expensive to buy. And that 8gb/32gb HDD was just horrible. Overpriced console for very little except Mario titles. It flatlined with a reason guys. Accept it and own it

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Alucard83 wrote:

No! It was a weak console since it was after xbox 360 and ps3. We expected better. It wasn't next gen at all. It was a snoozefest. That's why many 3rd party were not released on it because it didn't have the power. THey would have to dumb down all the games which does not represent the gamestudio qualities. With that said glad it kinda flatlined. If it didn't I don't think Switch would have these specs at all, but would even a tad lower and still very expensive to buy. And that 8gb/32gb HDD was just horrible. Overpriced console for very little except Mario titles. It flatlined with a reason guys. Accept it and own it

Power is nothing, it's the quality of the games that is important, and the Wii U had quality games in abundance.

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@tedko

I have exactly the same point of view.
Every single words that you have written fits my thoughts.
The gamepad is way more confortable, in term of shape, texture quality and you get A REAL D-PAD not those horrible buttons instead.
The gamepad has an ergonomic shape when you hold it. The Switch is flat as possible and I personally think that the sticks and buttons are really low quality on Switch.

The Wii U is the most underated home system ever.

A lot of people say that it's nintendo's fault because of the marketing that the wii U made low sells.
There is a part of truth but the real fault is about "THE GAMERS" !
You have to go back end 2012 and understand the mentality at the moment.
They started to show the 1st PS4/ONE footages(with a lot of Bullshoot BTW) and when the "gamers" started to compare, yeah the Wii U bashing was on rails...

Because that was the end of a period (PS360), gamers wanted so much to feel an impressive technical gap that the Wii U was at the wrong place and at the wrong time.
I remember how Zombi U was critized, the gamers said " Yeah it's really bad, it's ugly, it's even less than a PS2 game blablabla...". They wanted to be impressed, I mean TECHNICALLY.

The thing is, if you don't take the gamepad in your hands, you cannot understand how incredible that game is. But whatever, to make it short :

  • The Wii U is gonna be a CULT system in the 5/10 years to come for a lot gamers, even for the ones who spat on the system back then. (A kind of Dreamcast effect manner of speaking)

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Grumblevolcano

@Cobalt At the current rate Wii U games are being ported to Switch, I doubt it'll reach cult system status. Other cult systems still have fantastic games are still exclusive to the original system like the Gamecube has TTYD, F-Zero GX, Super Mario Sunshine, etc.

By the time Nintendo's finished with Wii U ports, the Wii U will probably only have games like Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival left.

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Moroboshi876

Definitely ports will lessen its cult status, but I think it will have it at some point. I still love it, some ports I preferred not to buy them and keep Wii U version (Captain Toad, for instance, is better for touch controls and has Super Mario 3D World stages, what actually makes worth it to have both versions).

Anyway, when Switch came out people started to appreciate Wii U, strangely.

I still love it and want to find the time to use it. Some games are still exclusive, it has a few but good multiplatform games too...

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LittleOtus wrote:

it's the first Nintendo console not to have an exclusive Zelda game, there's no Metroid, StarFox Zero was horrible and it lacked third party support.

Except that Zelda Breath of the Wild IS THE Wii U Zelda game.

Nintendo has ported the game to the Switch but BOTW is the Wii U Zelda such As Skyward Sword is the Wii Zelda, not Twilight Princess.

Zelda 1 and 2 are related to the NES.
A link to the past, to the SNES
Ocarina and Majora, to the N64
Windwaker and Twilight Princess, to the NGC
Skyward Sword, to the Wii
Breath of the Wild, to the Wii U

It's the same as Twilight Princess which was ported to the Wii !
At the time, it's the Switch which have no Zelda related to the system.

It's not because Nintendo used Zelda BOTW to sell the Switch like cupcakes that I forget from where BOTW comes from... THE WII U !

About Metroid, where's the N64 Metroid ?

About StarFox Zero, I must say that I thought like you when I tried it. But guess what ? With time, understanding and patience, I totally master the game. It's a pure joy NOW to play this game.
I know it sounds crazy, I know, but StarFox Zero is not horrible at all, it's a game with a steep learning curve.
The game still has flaws but if I have to rate it TODAY, I'll probably give a 7.5/10... (Back then it was more like 4/10).

And about third party support, I'd say that AT LEAST they made a good job for some of them because they really made dedicated Wii U versions of their games.

Resident Evil Revelations gamepad support.
Deus Ex HR gamepad support
Batman Arkham gamepad support
Splinter Cell BL gamepad support
Need for Speed gamepad support
Mass Effect 3 gamepad support
Darksiders 2 gamepad support
Zombi U gamepad support.
Tekken Tag 2 gamepad support...

My point is that even if that's totally true about the support of 3rd party games, the Wii U had really something "more" added to its own version of games.

Look today with the Switch, you have LESS than other versions.

Lego City Undercover without a gamepad, really ?
Ys VIII, graphics, Framerate, textures everything is less...
Doom, Wolfenstein, Crash Bandiccot etc... it's the same, less...

So basically if you don't care to play on a handheld, you have not added value to get a Switch version.
With the Wii U, generally you got something that made your experience better...

It's only my point of view but I can't deny that I was happier back then with my Wii U than with my Switch right now.

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Moroboshi876

@Cobalt You're totally right. I own a Switch because I need portability, but Wii U games had something "more", as you say.

Besides, I always have a soft spot for doomed systems, secondary characters, small sports teams, et cetera. Lol.

And I love little gems like NES Remix. Really. I love those two games.

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I've been compiling a list of my games collection. Currently I've got twice as many Wii discs to Wii U discs (c.120:60 ratio), but so many of my Wii games are 'casual' (which I happen to like) iterative releases, whereas I'd say very few of my Wii U games are.

Many of my games are unplayed, but scanning through the lists, there are many more in the Wii list that I would likely rate 7/10, compared to my Wii U list where I would have a tough time coming up with many that I didn't think deserved at least an 8/10.

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@Cobalt I said it previously, but I will say it again, if I had to pick one console and I could have every game officially supported by it there is no doubt that I would pick the Wii U.
As ergonomics goes, it is funny because I see a lot of aftermarket covers for the Switch that make the back of the Switch look very similar to the back of the Gamepad. I would much prefer to hold the gamepad for long gaming sessions then the Switch. And the Wii U Pro Controller is still my favorite dual analog controller, I just wish it had motion control and could transmit data via a cord. But my Wii U still sits next to my Switch and gets used every day. It's not going anywhere. There are just some things the Switch still cannot do, like type this message as I am doing now.
Similar to the Dreamcast, I think there will be a life for the Wii U after all is said and done. But the biggest difference will be Nintendo doing all they can to make sure people forget the Wii U and embrace the Switch. Sega just walked away.

But I know there are people who never buy current generation and always pick up what others are unloaded for cheap. They will have a lot of fun with the Wii U. But one thing I am noticing is some of the eShop games are not available for purchase anymore. That is a real bummer for anyone wanting to pick up some games later in the console's life. I know there are at least one or two on my wish list that are unavailable. I wish I would have know they were going away, I might have wanting to pick them up before they were gone.

I use to champion for the Saturn and Dreamcast all the time. Don't let people get you too upset, remember even Nintendo is activity working against the Wii U's legacy.

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Cobalt

@Hikingguy

Man, what you just wrote is so true.

I'm 200% OK with every single words of your post.

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SKTTR

@Cobalt Well, the motion controls added in DOOM and Wolfenstein II more than make up for the lesser graphics, but in general you're right.

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