Topic: I want a WiiU for those 1080p games, but 720p TV says MEH

Well if you're looking at a 30 grand 80 inch then duh. Dem graphs bro dem graphs. Science is never wrong.....

PS: I saw those glorious 80 inch 4K and they are absolutely crazy. Only If I could afford one...sigh....

And I suppose you're gonna tell us that the human eye can't see over 30 frames per second next.

Yup. However, although our eyes can't tell the difference between 30 fps and 60 fps, we can definitely "feel" it. I can't really put them in words but 60FPS definitely feels a TINY bit smoother compared to 30.

Should be fine, I wouldn't worry about it. A lot of the games that are "running" at 1080p are actually running at lower resolutions and upscaled. So it's not that big a deal. There's also a chance that there will be no perceivable benefit anyways depending on how close you are to the screen.

In a bedroom you can probably see the difference of 1080p at 32" because you need to be closer than 4' away from the screen. By my estimate in a bedroom you'll be sitting anywhere from ~10' to maybe as close as 2' from a 32" screen. At 2' 4k makes sense even at that size, at 10' you could get away with 480p. So depending on where you're likely to be in relation to the TV is how much it'll really matter.

but it'll work either way so... just go for it

I think it was a....erm, medium-sized TV. Can't remember, it wasn't huge, though.

I can and can't tell the difference. If I'm aware that the content is 1080p, I'll pay more attention and realize, but otherwise I don't really notice most of the time.

EDIT: My bro has a 32" 720p, and I have a 39" 1080p. I can tell the difference, but I wouldn't even know if there wasn't a 720p display to reference.

From my experience it goes something like this:

The Wii U GamePad looks ok with 6.2" at 480p
A 10" 1080p tablet looks fantastic
A 13" 720p laptop screen looks decent
A 22" 1080p monitor looks meh
A 32" 1080p TV looks fantastic
A 46" 1080p TV looks decent
A 60" 1080p TV looks meh
A 60" 4K TV looks fantastic
An 80" 4K TV looks fantastic

144p resolution Youtube videos on a 4K TV.

Do you have a legitimate source on that? Not saying you're wrong, I'm just curious. From everything I've read, there doesn't seem to be a limit to the frames per second that the human eye can see because the human eye doesn't see in "frames". The optic nerve gets continuous light from the environment. I'd think it would be more of an issue with the brain not being able to process information fast enough at certain points.

With that said, I think most people can detect (see or otherwise) a difference between 30 and 60 frames per second. I certainly have no problem whatsoever. Show me a 30fps clip and a 60fps clip; I'll be able to tell you which is which every single time. It's incredibly obvious to me if I'm only getting 30fps in a PC game.

I can tell the difference between 30 and 60 frames per second, all the time, except for once. I thought Wind Waker HD was 60FPS, but that was the only time I ever couldn't tell the difference. Once I read that it was 30FPS, I was able to notice.

You can definitely notice the difference between 30fps and 60fps. Anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves. What's more at lower framerates you tend to get more stutter which happens when the frame output doesn't match the refresh rate of the monitor. That cause both variation in input lag and a jumpy image. Also happens at higher framerates but the variation is much, much smaller.

also........

Uhhh..almost all Wii U games are rendered at 720p, some even sub-HD (COD.)

Rayman Legends, Wind Waker HD, and maybe Smash Bros are/will be 1080p...

I think ZombiU is 1080p. Supposedly, Mario Kart, Bayonetta, and X(?) will be 1080p. CoD running at sub-HD just proves Acttivision didn't know how to get better results from the Wii U, though. The same could be said about alot of games, but it isn't a big deal, either way.

In the situation the OP is in, I would either get a Wii U or invest in a good audio system, instead of another HDTV.

Now you're just spreading blatant lies. This is in no way true at all. http://frames-per-second.appspot.com/

I bought a 32" 1080p Samsung TV just before the Wii U was released for my bedroom and I have to say it's been fantastic. I then went and played my Wii U on a friend's cheap 720p 32ish" TV and I noticed the difference instantly. Now I'm not sure if that comes down to it being a cheap brand rather than being 720p, but I would much rather have the 1080p TV. Although in my case I simply spent a bit extra to get a 1080p TV rather than buying a 720p TV and later upgrading it.

When you play 720p games on a 1080p TV, the image is a lower resolution than the screen. So it seems that you're implying that it bothers you more often than not

They released a Wii U for your bedroom!? WHERE IS THIS WONDROUS MACHINE!?

About the OP, I would hold out until you can get something larger in 1080p. The Wii U upscales games to 1080p, so technically you'll get a 1080p signal out of it. Since most of their games are native 720p, the upscale only serves to make it marginally clearer. However, Nintendo's excellent mastery of graphics hides this flaw. Wind Waker HD is 1080p, SM3DW is 720p. Both played on a large 1080p TV, you can see that Wind Waker HD is clearer, but ONLY when you play them one right after the other. Basically, for some odd reason, Nintendo makes 720p look insanely good, and as a PC gamer, I'm all about the highest possible resolutions at 60 fps or above, yet SM3DW looks absolutely phenomenal.

In other words, you'll live at 720p, and if you want to go 1080p, go with a much bigger TV