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Topic: Do you think it's our fault that Nintendo has gone lifeless and bland with the Switch?

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glaemay

I prefer lifeless Nintendo. I don't like when a megacorp pretends to be my friend. I judge them on their games not on their behavior.

glaemay

MetaCrystal

Me neither, but we're here talking about their corporate ventures fondly, no? Their strategy was pretending to be our friend. I think, at the very least, that they brought us together with the whole faux friendship strategy.

The SNES and the Genesis have their strengths. They both do what they do so well. Nothing beats the echoed SNES sound or the Full-Sounding FM synthesis of the Genesis. Did you know that the N64 had built in audio effects, like delay too?

HammerGalladeBro

This does make me think, how much time have I spent pondering about my day or chatting with friends on my phone at night while the Menu music of the Wii, DSi, 3DS or Wii U plays in the background after I finished a session before going to bed?

That's something the Switch doesn't offer me. At most it's the clicking sound (which only sounds when the system is not docked, meaning most of the time I don't hear it because I'm mostly a docked player) or the eShop bootup sound.

I'd rather have personality over a fast OS, especially when we're talking about a system where, more often than not, I have had game/app crashes during normal gameplay/use, as normal as normal can be.

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TheBigBlue

@glaemay this is a surprising take, but a real one. Nintendo aren’t your buddies, they are a multi million dollar corporation that don’t give a damn if you want the 3rd port of Wind Waker again on a Nintendo console.

I play the switch for its convenience and impressive game library, and so do most people anyways

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MetaCrystal

Big corporation loves our money and not us. End of story.

The SNES and the Genesis have their strengths. They both do what they do so well. Nothing beats the echoed SNES sound or the Full-Sounding FM synthesis of the Genesis. Did you know that the N64 had built in audio effects, like delay too?

Rambler

Stabbed in the Face by Wolf Eyes would work a treat

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squisan

MetaCrystal wrote:

@Squisan Do you also remember what it was like? To browse the Wii U eShop endlessly, listening to the soft synth Instrumentation? I used to record the songs from the Virtual Console game trailers in the 3DS Sound app, and listen to them over and over. We need to continue supporting those Programmers and modders that keep the Wii U alive, even if it just by mentioning their name.

Of course, who doesn't? I have each eShop theme saved and put into my Spotify local files, so I can listen to them whenever I want. I sometimes search on youtube for different theme songs that play in certain apps on the Wii U and 3DS. And I still have those two songs on my SD card that I used to listen to in the sound app over and over again, while messing around with the music visualiser (Play-Yan visualiser was the best in my opinion), I miss that era of Nintendo music.

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MetaCrystal

It's good to know that I'm not the only one unironically listening to these. These songs bring me back to my childhood, especially the farther back we go to the Wii. The menu music barely counts as a cohesive song but it is just too nostalgic to stop listening to.

The SNES and the Genesis have their strengths. They both do what they do so well. Nothing beats the echoed SNES sound or the Full-Sounding FM synthesis of the Genesis. Did you know that the N64 had built in audio effects, like delay too?

MetaCrystal

Man, I made this thread depressing as hell. I didn't mean to do that. I guess I feel really strongly about the 3DS. What good memories do you folks have of these menus? I'll start. I remember as a child my family would go camping once a year near the coast. I had a 3DS, and took it everywhere with me. I remember at some point on the long car ride back from that good week of camping, I had my headphones plugged into my O3DS, and I went to switch out game packs;But I stopped in the home menu. For the first time, I stopped to listen to the home menu sound, and realized for how many years I had listened to it and had not acknowledged it. I think I fell asleep listening to it, next to my very young brother in the car.

The SNES and the Genesis have their strengths. They both do what they do so well. Nothing beats the echoed SNES sound or the Full-Sounding FM synthesis of the Genesis. Did you know that the N64 had built in audio effects, like delay too?

Anti-Matter

@squisan
"Do you think it's our fault that Nintendo has gone lifeless and bland with the Switch?"

NO
It's Nintendo decision to be different, not our fault.
It has nothing to do with our fault.

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squisan

@Anti-Matter Of course, it’s true that Nintendo makes all their decisions themself, but it’s also true that their decisions are influenced by their users. BOTW wouldn’t have gotten a sequel if people didn’t love BOTW in the first place. It’s possible that Nintendo’s huge change in design happened due to the failures of the Wii U.

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squisan

just realised i used “of course” two replies in a row, oops

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Anti-Matter

@squisan
Different leader have different vision for their company.
If current Nintendo CEO decided to be clean slate with Switch, less fancy than Wii U / 3DS so be it.
It was their decision, not our decision.
Nothing we can do to change their mind.

Anti-Matter

Anti-Matter

@squisan
And what do you mean by being lifeless and bland just because Switch UI being sterile, no fancy music like Wii U / 3DS / PS4 ?
Even NDS didn't have fancy UI and music.

Anti-Matter

squisan

@Anti-Matter never said it was “our” decision, i just said we could’ve influenced that decision in some way.

And yes, that’s exactly what I mean by lifeless and bland. Nintendo Switch’s UI personally brings me no joy, no nostalgia, or anything, even after 6 years of its release.

I’ve never used the NDS, so I can’t really give much of an opinion of that. But one question I want to ask is, why are you (and someone else in this topic i don’t remember who) saying that the NDS, a 17 year old device, had no “fancy UI or music”. Of course it didn’t. It’s 17 years old. It’s a small handheld device. The technology wasn’t there at the time.

But now, the technology IS there, and they’re not taking advantage of it. If anything, it makes your argument worse, because it implies that the Switch is going backwards to the roots of the NDS.

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Anti-Matter

@squisan
I personally don't really like with sterile Switch UI too, compared with Wii U, 3DS, PS4 UI that still have some ambience music. Even after waiting for 6 years, still no improvement of Switch UI.
But at least, it looks like sterile version of PS4 UI, not really bad UI design after all. The sterile UI made Switch have faster booting time and shut down time.

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Tanookduke

This entire thread can be summarized as this: people loved (and still love) the personality and charm of older nintendo system's ui. And while the switch has some evidence of charm with its sounds on the home screen, Some people would like it to have similar charm to the older consoles. Some, not everyone, so it's possible nintendo decided a straight forward ui for the switch would be better.

The tanookduke strikes again!

TheBigBlue

Tanookduke wrote:

This entire thread can be summarized as this: people loved (and still love) the personality and charm of older nintendo system's ui. And while the switch has some evidence of charm with its sounds on the home screen, Some people would like it to have similar charm to the older consoles. Some, not everyone, so it's possible nintendo decided a straight forward ui for the switch would be better.

Spot on. And besides, it’s not the extra widgets on a console like the home menu song or whatever that make a console successful, it’s the games. And that’s why the switch is killing it, and it’s gimmick of course

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progx

Anti-Matter wrote:

@squisan
Different leader have different vision for their company.
If current Nintendo CEO decided to be clean slate with Switch, less fancy than Wii U / 3DS so be it.

Satoru Iwata helmed the Switch design before he passed. He was still overseeing development in the final months of his life too. He was giving directives to the team developing it. It was a restart for them and signal to the end of their home/handheld consoles with a move to mobile device SOCs with super locked hardware. I think they're better off using Arm-powered SOCs then these hand ovens from AMD.

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dmcc0

I wish I could make my Xbox home screen as bland and lifeless as the one on my Switch! Get rid of all the crap and just let me pick some games.

dmcc0

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