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Topic: Why did Shigeru Miyamoto cease directing Legend of Zelda games?

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Jacob717

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lol...yeeeeaaah let's pretend those don't exist.

It's easy to pretend that the CD-i games don't exist, but there's no denying that "Freshly-Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland" and "Tingle's Balloon Fight DS" exist.

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Why haven't they localized those games yet? xD

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One of the big reasons why Miyamoto is General Manger is because he sees value in teaching his skills and philosophies to others - rather than merely using them for himself.

Nintendo cannot rely on Miyamoto forever, and he himself has acknowledged this. It's better to teach others now, rather than retire and leaving his students in the lurch.

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myonlyvice

Kage_88 wrote:

One of the big reasons why Miyamoto is General Manger is because he sees value in teaching his skills and philosophies to others - rather than merely using them for himself.

Nintendo cannot rely on Miyamoto forever, and he himself has acknowledged this. It's better to teach others now, rather than retire and leaving his students in the lurch.

That's a great point.

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DefHalan

Kage_88 wrote:

One of the big reasons why Miyamoto is General Manger is because he sees value in teaching his skills and philosophies to others - rather than merely using them for himself.

Nintendo cannot rely on Miyamoto forever, and he himself has acknowledged this. It's better to teach others now, rather than retire and leaving his students in the lurch.

I would pay to be one of his students

myonlyvice wrote:

Bear in mind, I'm coming at this as a person whose primary interest is classic Zelda (and also Mario). I'm not really interested in his other projects.

That line right there is a problem. You aren't interested in his other projects, I am and plenty of other people are. If you just want him to work on Zelda and Mario his whole life that is your choice, I want to see him tackle new and interesting games, even if some of them fail. I want to see Miyamoto do the work he is interested in and not be forced to work on a particular series that he feels he has nothing to add to. You might argue that he could add more but maybe he doesn't think so, or maybe he would rather display those new ideas under a different light. Miyamoto wasn't forced into the position he is in now, he could have left and any number of companies would have paid him to keep making Zelda games if that is what he wanted.

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People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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myonlyvice

myonlyvice wrote:

Bear in mind, I'm coming at this as a person whose primary interest is classic Zelda (and also Mario). I'm not really interested in his other projects.

DefHalan wrote:

That line right there is a problem. You aren't interested in his other projects, I am and plenty of other people are. If you just want him to work on Zelda and Mario his whole life that is your choice, I want to see him tackle new and interesting games, even if some of them fail. I want to see Miyamoto do the work he is interested in and not be forced to work on a particular series that he feels he has nothing to add to. You might argue that he could add more but maybe he doesn't think so, or maybe he would rather display those new ideas under a different light. Miyamoto wasn't forced into the position he is in now, he could have left and any number of companies would have paid him to keep making Zelda games if that is what he wanted.

Whoa! Easy, my friend. I started this thread merely to learn why Miyamoto no longer directed Zelda games. True, I wish he still were doing it and I'm not ashamed to say it because that's my favorite franchise. But, I also acknowledged earlier that he is free to do whatever he wants with no explanations to anybody. According to what I've heard on here, he wanted to be a manager and, by all accounts, he's a good one. We're all very fortunate that he's still involved in the industry. But, like I said before, I think he is a better game director and I think the Zelda and Mario games he directed in the 80s and 90s are superior to the games that he has "produced" since then. But, this is in no way meant to be taken as a slight regarding Miyamoto because I don't think being a producer really amounts to much. I don't even consider the games released since '99 to be Miyamoto games. They are Aonuma and Koizumi games. And I think these are great games, too. It's just that everybody has their favorites, you know? At any rate, I appreciate you voicing your opinion and I hope we can have more friendly conversations in the future. I think we can both agree that Nintendo, regardless of who is making the games, is still numero uno.

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DefHalan

I wasn't attacking you in that post, I was pointing out how viewing under such a small scope is what caused the perspective of him not doing much or not having much to do with a certain series. I tried to keep all my dialog friendly.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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It does seem quite narrow-minded...

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myonlyvice

DefHalan wrote:

I wasn't attacking you in that post, I was pointing out how viewing under such a small scope is what caused the perspective of him not doing much or not having much to do with a certain series. I tried to keep all my dialog friendly.

I don't think we're on the same page. Based on everything that's been said in this thread, I think it's pretty clear that in recent years Miyamoto has had much less creative input as a manager/producer then he had as director and this can be plainly seen in the games themselves. This is the source of my consternation and the impetus for asking my original question. I appreciate that he's busy working on many other projects which are popular in certain circles. But the current iterations of Zelda (and Mario) can no longer accurately be called Miyamoto games. Whether one views the current state of things as a positive or a negative is a separate issue and is merely a matter of opinion. It sounds like most folks here miss Miyamoto less as a director than I do. Anyway, I feel this thread has served its purpose and I'm getting tired of it, as I bet are you. I don't really want to post any more replies. If you want to reply I'll read it but I think I'm done.

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RegalSin

In Japan they have the notion of stop doing things more then once. Zelda ( our Zelda, the original ) ended a long time ago and Miyomoto probably does not have the mental power to program games like he did before. When your co-workers are the same age as your kids; things get kinda weird. So right now Nintendo ( the company ) is trying to PAST THE TORCH DOWN to the next generation.

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