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Lotice-Paladin

WaltzElf wrote:

Starlight wrote:

You forgot Neir.

Not a SE-developed game, that's why I left it off.

That said, it probably should be there. Cania was in most ways SE's playtoy, what with Drakengard before Nier.

Man I miss those guys HD Drakengard, please.

I have only heard of Drakengard through a friend (Ironically has the name Drake).

Fosters Adverts here are funny...but the adverts always say "Brewed in EU" which is sort of messed up.

I'd agree about Nintendo using their IP over and over, but SEGA and Capcom? (yeah, I know Sonic and Mega Man get abused but other then that, they rarely go back to their best IPs (Streets of Rage, Chaos Legion, Viewtiful Joe...although the latter had three games last gen)).

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@Starlight: I think Capcom could be guilty of using the same franchises over and over again and not just Mega Man. I've also noticed a slew of Street Fighter's and Resident Evil's titles coming out this gen, both of which are starting to get oversaturate by fans who play them.

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Limelight 788 wrote:

@Starlight: I think Capcom could be guilty of using the same franchises over and over again and not just Mega Man. I've also noticed a slew of Street Fighter's and Resident Evil's titles coming out this gen, both of which are starting to get oversaturate by fans who play them.

I'm not going to stick up for Capcom but Street Fighter wasn't used as much last gen, although they have always abused the Street Fighter series as well as their VS series (MvC, SNK, X-Men...).

I agree with Resident Evil though...although I don't pay much attention to the series as I don't like those type of games.

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They can abuse the series all they want so long as they're still fun. So far I've yet to see them really kill a series besides maybe Star Force.

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@Mickeymac - They killed Battle Networks the same way...it just took a bit longer. And I'd say MMBN 4 was a way worse game than Star Force 3....as was MMBN 5 (never played 6 for good reason)

I think that slew of Resident Evil games should've been one 3DS Resident Evil game featuring Mercenaries as a multiplayer mode...but who am I to stand in the way of gouging extra dollars out of early adopters of the console? ...Except an early adopter of said console....

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Mickeymac wrote:

They can abuse the series all they want so long as they're still fun. So far I've yet to see them really kill a series besides maybe Star Force.

Tell that to Sonic fans.

Although certain IPs can be milked...they still need to have quality in their titles...as consumer confidence is fragile, and can break on just one bad game...I have no history with MM games but they've spread themselves too thinly by giving the franchise different genres (for better for worse), when you can only do so much with the franchise (like Sonic), Mega Man would never have an adventure in a Jungle or even a Pre-Historic setting but he'd be always great in digitalised worlds and Post-Apocolyptic settings.

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Some series are better milked than others! Sonic just wasn't one of them. Playing back through the original Sonic on PSN did nothing but remind me how much I loved the original title. After Sonic and Knuckles it went downhill badly.

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Bankai

I think we can all agree that Nintendo and Square Enix are the most successful at milking their various franchises. In Japan, characters owned by those two publishers accounts for something like 35 of the top 50 favourite characters, according to a Famitsu piece last year.

Sounds about right to me.

Stuffgamer1

Regarding new IP's (that were released in the West, numbers compiled using game release lists from Wikipedia) from various companies over this current generation (PS3, 360, Wii, DS, PSP, download-only titles included where applicable):
Please note that these numbers concern publishing, not necessarily developing

  • Capcom: 10
  • Nintendo: 46 (47 counting Disaster: Day of Crisis, not released in America)
  • Square Enix: 11

Nintendo's is massively bloated due to random WiiWare they just happen to have published, but Nintendo would still win even without that. The acquisition of Eidos and Taito hasn't really resulted in much in the way of new IP's for Squenix, just continuation of existing ones (even relatively new stuff like Just Cause and Kane & Lynch started pre-acquisition).

Throughout this research, I did notice a trend...most of these new IP's didn't really do all that great, although Nintendo had more successful ones than the other companies.

@Popyman: The World Ends With You outsold expectations, but I wouldn't really say it sold "really well," at least not by Squenix standards. According to vgchartz (not the most reliable source, but I haven't a better one in mind), it only did 560,000 worldwide. That beats out The 4 Heroes of Light, but not any other FF title on DS, and certainly not ones on other platforms. Which is exactly my point: Even a new IP that DOES sell can't complete with the FF powerhouse.

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grenworthshero

Just saw Beyond Good and Evil HD will be released on PSN this may. I missed out on that game when it first came out, and I've wanted to get it for a long time. The GCN version is kind of hard to find, so I haven't ever bought it yet, so I may get this on PSN.

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grenworthshero wrote:

Just saw Beyond Good and Evil HD will be released on PSN this may. I missed out on that game when it first came out, and I've wanted to get it for a long time. The GCN version is kind of hard to find, so I haven't ever bought it yet, so I may get this on PSN.

It's for sure May?? Can't wait!! It's a great game, I haven't been able to play it in a long time because my PS2 memory card is packed full of stuff and I've been too lazy to buy a new one. >_<

On a completely unrelated note, I randomly stumbled onto the Final Fantasy XIII International trailer and now I REALLY want to buy that game...

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Lotice-Paladin

@Stuffgamer: You mean the Wii series and Brain Training? Those were very successful new IPs but I am guessing they will be one offs.

As for PS3 IPs (Exclusive). There's been loads! Neir, Demon Souls, Valkyria Chronicles, Motorstorm, Uncharted and LittleBigPlanet. I liked a few of those too!

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@gren... Don't miss out on Beyond Good and Evil again. Considering we are at NintendoLife it's easy to assume that you are a avid fan of Nintendo games, and Beyond Good and Evil has a fantastic Nintendo vibe in it. It's an amazing game, and I highly recommend it to anyone who reads this post!

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grenworthshero

Oh, I definitely don't plan on missing out on it. The only reason I did before was because it's hard to find on the GameCube, and I've never really liked the PlayStation's controller. Plus, I am, as you said, a hardcore Nintendo fan, so I'd much rather have it on the GCN than the PS2.

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grenworthshero wrote:

Oh, I definitely don't plan on missing out on it. The only reason I did before was because it's hard to find on the GameCube, and I've never really liked the PlayStation's controller. Plus, I am, as you said, a hardcore Nintendo fan, so I'd much rather have it on the GCN than the PS2.

I think you will enjoy it. It really didn't sell too well, and it's a shame. The game is just really enjoyable, and has fantastic characters. Jade is one kick-a chick!

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Stuffgamer1

Mutter mutter Microsoft and their temporary exclusive BS...already have Beyond Good & Evil on XBLA...mutter mutter...
Yeah, can't wait! I must absolve my past sin of only getting the game used after it flopped!

@Starlight: "Wii" series, Brain Age, and don't forget Nintendogs! Each of which outsold any new IP from any other publisher, including Sony and Microsoft. Speaking of which, I didn't list those two last night (as they weren't previously mentioned specifically in the discussion), but let's see where they stand (same rules from before apply):

  • Sony: 57. Ooh, isn't this interesting? Including random downloadable stuff from both Sony and Nintendo, Sony actually has MORE new IP's! In fact, Sony has more even if you count retail only, winning 30 to 25 (26 including Disaster: Day of Crisis). Furthermore, a much higher number of the Sony-published new IP's have gained notoriety than those from Nintendo among those lists. It's also interesting to note that Nintendo WOULD have won the sheer quantity war if they'd actually publish more games outside of Japan, a problem Sony doesn't really have.
  • Microsoft: 13 retail and an unspecifiable number of XBLA titles, due to lack of decently accurate info on Wikipedia (it's taking me long enough to do this research there, no WAY I'm searching elsewhere). To be fair, they're only releasing games on the ONE system, but it's still pretty sad.

So there you have it: Sony is the king of supporting new IP's. I guess anyone with a brain already knew that, though.

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