Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

No.

SMT is fine. V sold the best of any of the mainline games to date in a much shorter period of time. Not amazingly well, but for a hardcore, combat-focused JRPG with an intimidatingly Japanese title, it gained a lot of visibility thanks to Nintendo.

Sega seemed reasonably satisfied with SMT V's performance, which is all that really matters in the end. It's a passion project sorta series for Atlus. Not one that anybody expects to sell millions of copies.

So I just transfered all my data from my newer Switch to my old Switch in prep for sending the newer one away for repairs in order to fix Error 2168-0002 and everything's fine and dandy: all my games are playing grand, my save data's intact and I even fully beat Mario Bros 3 for the very first time. I decide to go and send some screenshots/videos to my phone now that I'm on a different Switch aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the exact same error came up again. But this time on a different Switch. That just went through a factory reset. That's also completely out of warranty. Life is pain.

I'm not nearly as worried about it as I was for my other Switch (since I'm only going to be using this one for 3 weeks max), I'm just more frustrated than anything that I can't use this opportunity to actually send my screenshots/videos on from my Switch while the faulty one is away. Anyone have any tips for other ways to move them off? Because man would it be helpful right now.

@Fizza If you have a PC and an SD card reader you can put them on your PC, it might take bit though.

@Kermit1 I've tried doing that in the past with a Chromebook and it never seemed to work for me. I'll see what I can find though (maybe use a school computer if they'll allow me?).

@Fizza I wouldn't use a School computer (you never know what might happen to them, even if they're just copies).

idk normally I'd be able to give some advice but this is more limiting.

@Eagly ...it's not, though. Persona isn't just popular because it's called Persona. If people pick up a game with "Persona" in the title and it's a grimdark monster-collector that plays almost nothing like actual Persona games, it'd just erode faith in the brand.

@Buizel
Not nearly as much as in the past, that's for sure, but it's still their default. Granted, I don't blame companies for having that default because Nintendo failed to provide a viable platform for 3rd parties for a very long time. Fixing that isn't going to happen overnight. That said, it has been 6 yrs. Still hearing, "Nintendo for kids, might hurt my game's big boy image" is incredibly embarrassing. Idk if it's Sony loyalism from that guy or holdover resentment toward Nintendo from the 90's , but if Sega had any sense they'd put their man in check, and port those games over whether he likes it or not, and tell him to shut his mouth moving forward.

Right now, Switch's capabilities are a genuine hindrance, so I let a lot of it slide. But once Switch 2 drops, with approximate capability of a SteamDeck, I better not see nearly as many games skipping the system, or I'll start boycotting those publishers across all other platforms. I may not buy much on Steam compared to Switch, but I do still buy.

@Eagly Casuals don't care about that connection, though. Very few of them are going to want to play a game like SMT V.

There's room in the market for hardcore RPGs. SMT has carved a niche for itself. Atlus just needs to keep refining their formula.

@JaxonH @Buizel Then there's Mega Man Battle Network Legacy Collection and Octopath Traveler 2 skipping Xbox for some reason, with the latter coming to PlayStation despite the first game still not being on there.

Publishers are weird.

@IceClimbers Octopath 2 on Playstation is a bit weird. I guess they're testing the waters to see if some level of demand exists on that platform.

As for it skipping Xbox this time, my pet theory is that the original only made the jump in the first place because Microsoft paid out handsomely for the game's inclusion in Game Pass, but almost nobody played it on there, so Microsoft probably didn't bother making any offers this go around. Would also explain why there's no word of Triangle Strategy going to Xbox.

Whereas, say, the Yakuza games have clearly high engagement on the platform, so Microsoft seems intent on renewing their deal with SEGA to keep the games available.

Square-Enix doesn't seem interested in porting games to Xbox unless Microsoft negotiates a deal with them.

Are PS only fans excited for Octopath though? It seems like except for Squeenix classics they aren’t looking for pixel based games.

I saw on Push Square an article where Square Enix says Japan isn't enough so I think they're seeing what fits on PS4/PS5 to appeal to a more global audience.

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2022/10/japan-simply-isnt-eno...

If the primary focus is Japan, everything that isn't blocked by Sony paying for exclusivity comes to Switch given Switch dominates there meanwhile if you change that focus to global then Playstation becomes more important (compared to Japan) as PS5 takes off after finally getting good stock levels. Then you port to Xbox several months later because a big proportion of the Xbox audience seems to only care about getting games for no additional cost on Game Pass.

@Grumblevolcano That article was weird. Japan hasn't been enough for Square-Enix since the 90s, lol. Global releases have been the norm for at least a couple of generations now industry-wide for the major players. The main holdouts have been smaller companies like Nihon Falcom, who are still stuck in the early 00s mentally.

I doubt it'll change much regarding Square-Enix's support. Old / pixel stuff will still sell better on Nintendo consoles, and stuff like Final Fantasy XVI was never going to Nintendo consoles anyway. Sony's timed payouts are more about kneecapping the Xbox brand.

@Ryu_Niiyama I'm guessing that's the answer Square-Enix is seeking with Octopath 2. If it's like Final Fantasy and almost totally disconnected from the original, then it's a good choice for branching out.

@Ryu_Niiyama
It'll do reasonably well on PS, I'm sure.

But Switch will, by far, be the leading platform in sales, as is already evident by Amazon sales rankings. When the listing went live, Switch version shot up to top 100 while the PS version was languishing around #2,000.

There's just very little reason to buy a game like that anywhere but Switch. For something like say, The Witcher 3, or Doom Eternal (gyro notwithstanding), it makes perfect sense why ppl would buy elsewhere. But Octopath Traveler II isn't going to look drastically different on other platforms.

Can't even begin to imagine how bad an Xbox version would do.

$50 eShop cards for $45 at Newegg (10% Off). This is when you stock up for all these games releasing.

Add in the 5% back in gold coins you get when spending it on the eShop, and the 2% back you get when purchasing the credit with your CC, and you're looking at 17% off total for any digital game day one. That's almost as good as the famous GCU discount.

https://www.newegg.com/nintendo-50-00/p/N82E16832074004?item=...

@Ralizah That's why I think by global they mean more about platforms and types of games. Forspoken, FF16 and DQ12 appear to be going for that early to mid 2000s edgy tone, much more Playstation presence, etc.

@Grumblevolcano If anything, this generation is one of the first since the SNES where it hasn't felt like all of their great games automatically go to Playstation exclusively. They've maintained a fantastic presence on the Switch. We only really miss out on a few blockbusters that never would have hit the platform anyway.

My birthday gift from me to myself from Hong Kong should arrive today.

Dis gon be gud, fam.

Probably will put Persona 5 Royal on hold and get right into Signalis.

@Ralizah I was meaning in the sense of looking forward. If you look at the past, the most successful systems in Japan were supported the most. There's a rather big overlap between successful systems in Japan and successful systems globally so Square Enix providing global benefit may have been a side effect rather than the focus.

Now we're at the point where there's a big divide, Japan's interest in PS5 appears limited meanwhile global interest in PS5 is huge and we're seeing an increased Square Enix presence on PS5.

@Ralizah True enough, I just suppose I assumed that Squeenix would have had enough data for that but demographics change and renewed interest is a thing. So we shall see sales wise. I'm getting it on Switch though.

@JaxonH thanks for the eshop card heads up. Stocking up now as the physical discounts don't look really great this year. I think I'm just going to wait on games to go down naturally (like gotham knights for instance). I have several years worth of unopened games on my other systems as is. I bought my tv, which will be here on the 18th, and a flash cart for my n64 (just going to put what I own up there but I don't have the space to have several generations of games on display) and that's it while I save for my new av receiver. Gonna buy my mom some tires for her car anyway so that's a few hundo.