Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@JaxonH my only issue with special joycon is that means devs won’t make games with those in mind. Then again I only want the triggers in hopes that Nintendo starts selling/NSO gamecube games. (Which I don’t need since I have my gamecube collection intact) If they can via mix of NSO, collections and eshop have a line up similar to the WiiU VC (and build on that) then that’s it for me.

Nintendo knows the switch works and have sales/sub numbers for collections and NSO. If the internals of the successor mean they get a similar level of 3rd party buy in as switch (with perhaps more ports or remakes), it’s pretty much a money printer at that point.

@Ryu_Niiyama
For sure.

The Nintendo Switch is unique in its demographic. It doesn't explicitly cater to the core PS/Xbox crowd, but instead caters to a variety of smaller niches which, combined together makes for a massive install base of gamers with a wide variety of preferences.

Switch appeals to the core Nintendo fan (obviously), it appeals to indie fans that would otherwise play on Steam (thanks to the hybrid advantage), it appeals to retro gamers for the same reason, it appeals to casual gamers and mini-game fans (thanks to the unique controller properties), it appeals to fans of local co-op (thanks to split screen with single joycon and local wireless), it appeals to RPG fans (thanks to the hybrid advantage), it appeals to STG/shmup fans (thanks to TATE mode), and it appeals to fans of other various genres (including many AAA titles) who love the games enough to buy a Switch to have it in hybrid format. It also appeals to gyro aiming fans (thanks to gyro becoming standard on the system). Most of all it appeals to handheld gamers, which are a massive demographic dating all the way back to the Gameboy. There's a lot of overlap between these various groups, but they still each contribute to the overall install base.

So many ppl are under the impression that, if Nintendo would just "focus on the same gaming demographic PS/Xbox focuses on, prioritizing power/performance above all else" that would be the ticket. And yet... they're already on pace to surpass the PS2. The demographics they appeal to now is a far more successful strategy than the core demographics of PS/Xbox.

Not that it would be a bad thing to also appeal to those gamers in addition. But they're too high maintenance, imo. You'd almost have to give up the hybrid approach, or make the system $600 to provide a level of fidelity those ppl are happy with, and even then, they're probably so loyal to PS/Xbox from playing on those systems so long, they wouldn't buy in anyways.

@NeonPizza
It's not that I don't care about latency, but it has to be severe enough that I can notice. And when saying, "oh, this Switch version with hybrid handheld, console, tabletop and TATE mode has 5 frames instead of the 4 the console only Xbox version has- you should skip this" I can't help but facepalm.

Even then, it's fine. You do you. If it bothers someone, no problem. Everyone has their preferences. I take no issue with that. But when you then mock and deride anyone who dares not share such an obtuse mindset, that's when you've crossed the line. Be as picky as you want. That doesnt concern me. But ostracization and marginalization of anyone who doesn't agree? Now we've gone from having an opinion, to being a radicalized ideologue who attacks anyone who doesn't drink the kool-aid of the cult.

You're preaching to the choir with the gyro. Believe me, I'm with you on that.

It aggravates me to no end seeing ppl dismiss it as "worse" when it's quite literally and objectively proven to be superior.

Every time an FPS gets announced for Switch, first thing I do is post a comment toward the devs, "is gyro confirmed? If yes = BUY, if no = NO BUY". It's that simple. It's no longer a nicety or luxury feature. It's mandatory. If you release an FPS, not including gyro aiming is akin to not including analog movement and telling gamers, "just move with the d-pad, it's fine". Nooooo.... it's not fine. We moved past d-pads for 3D movement decades ago. Likewise, we moved past dated, archaic aiming methods a decade ago. And I'm not going back. It's non-negotiable. Include gyro or I'm simply not buying your game. Exceptions for Steam where I can map it myself. Just talking Switch here.

Curiously, here in the UK, Game has the Diofield Steelbook editions available for Diofield & Crisis Core, @JaxonH .... But not for Tactics Ogre Reborn, it has an 'exclusive' mini poster for that, instead. Obviously, they do say those are limited & 1st come, 1st serve, so if anyone here wants those, pre-order ASAP
Alternatively, for those of us that don't mind plastic cases, you can preorder the games cheaper on Game Collection or Offer Games here, which is what I've done

I feel... compelled... to buy this game. How could anyone not, after watching this gameplay video

@BruceCM
It's a mess. And NA consistently gets the short end of the stick nowadays, for steelbooks, collector editions, pretty much everything barring actual physical releases. Which makes it all the harder having to import from various EU retailers and selling the game on eBay to recoup costs (as that's cheaper than buying just the steelbook on eBay).

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Also, why is nobody talking about Rain Code? This was legitimately one of the most impressive games shown at the Direct.

It's like Ace Attorney x Persona x Danganronpa. Game looks fire

@JaxonH A new HD Monster Rancher has been on top of my most wanted list for years, but I really don't know about this weird Ultra-Man crossover. I really like the original monsters this series is known for.

I'm so conflicted.

@Ralizah
It may not be exactly what you wanted, but the gameplay will be the same and, let's be honest, these are pretty cool monsters 😎

How bout that Rain Code though, ya? Seems like the kind of game you'd normally go nuts for

Yeah, I know a few people in forums that often import the European Special/ Limited, etc, editions for games, @JaxonH ... No idea why they don't just release the same ones in America, most of the time, since there doesn't usually seem to be any reason for it
Personally, I just want the basic game, unless there's worthwhile extras in a Digital Deluxe, etc, version (not soundtrack & art book for me, I want in-game things) but I thought I'd check the UK situation for the things you mentioned, for anyone else here that might be interested

@JaxonH I pick the Red Seed. (Sonic)

@JaxonH I was disappointed with the Direct, mainly because there were so many farming sims and no Metroid Prime announcements (the latter killing the show for me alone), so I was less excited about anything that did end up catching my eye during the Direct. Rain Code was definitely one of those games though, and I am interested to see how it turns out. If I was more enthused about the show, I probably would have said it was my 2nd or 3rd favorite game of the show (behind Fire Emblem at least).

Whether I get it on Switch or wait for the inevitable PlayStation release is the question. I guess it depends on when it actually comes out.

@KilloWertz
There are some gamers who have interest with farm sims games including me.
I was disappointed by Nintendo Direct last time due to too many popular games announcement like zelda, splatoon, xenoblade, just dance, etc that I never like them.

@Anti-Matter I know, and that's fine, but there was just a ridiculous amount of them. I personally wouldn't have cared as much if we got an actual Metroid Prime announcement, but as is they still could have catered to you and not had so many of them. Also, while they are popular, you are still in the minority as for gaming tastes. Not knocking that, just saying.

@KilloWertz
Well because I'm different.
I don't have interest with popular games like zelda, xenoblade, splatoon, just dance, fortnite, metroid, etc.
I played mostly unpopular / niche games that I have interest about.
Fae Farm and Story of Seasons A Wonderful Life were really caught my interest for farming sim games since I have ever played Harvest Moon A Wonderful Life from PS2 version long time ago.

@Anti-Matter I know your gaming preferences and why from when you explained it on Push Square. I wasn't criticizing it. You can play whatever you want to play, but that also doesn't change the fact that the Direct had a ton of farming sims, and honestly too many for some people that don't have any interest in them. It was compounded for somebody like me that sat through mostly the whole thing waiting on an announcement for a game that I never got.

@JaxonH I guess my concern is whether this is a full-fledged Monster Rancher game, but with Ultra-Man beasties, or more of a fanservice side-game for Ultra-Man fans. Monster Rancher games usually feature ways of bonding with the monsters, a lot of original characters, emergent plots as you play through the games, etc. and I'm skeptical if those elements will be well-represented.

Rain Code is a day one for me unless it reviews poorly. Looks interesting, and I obviously love the pedigree behind it.

Hating something because it's popular is something I used to do. It's a nice feeling to have this "special secret" game that nobody knows. It means you get to tell people about it.

But honestly it's so nice meeting like-minded people to share your experience with.

This

@KilloWertz
I was hoping for Metroid too, but I settled it in my mind beforehand to not expect it, because it had been rumored so many times before. I personally believe it exists, but my guess is it'll be a launch window title for the next Switch revision in fall 2023.

But ya. I've never been big into farm sims, until my brother told me Rune Factory 4 was one of the best games he ever played on 3DS. And usually I share his taste in games. I also played Dragon Quest Builders 2 and really enjoyed planting my own rice and lettuce and all that stuff, but also adventuring and fighting enemies. Rune Factory 5 was a disappointment, so I was looking forward to Harvestella. But that game's demo turned out to be not as good as I'd hoped (it's a good game, but I want legendary), so now my sights are set on Fae Farm. Rune Factory 3 Special was also nice but it's an older DS game.

I quite enjoyed the Direct myself. I was very pleased with Fire Emblem Engage, Pikmin 4, Octopath Traveler II, Zelda Tears of the Kingdom release date and Final Fantasy VII Crisis Core release date, Rain Code, Kirby Return to Dreamland, Theatrhythm, Tales of Symphonia, Fatal Frame, Atelier Ryza 3 and, last but not least, Radiant Silvergun.

But I feel for you. After Metroid Dread's success, I don't think Nintendo will keep us waiting too much longer before we get more.

I love Ultraman and have wanted to try monster rancher but never cared for the monster designs. So the new kaiju game is a win win for me.