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Kit

Is anyone else disappointed about the launch price of the Nintendo Switch?

From a UK perspective in a world of Brexit and plummeting value of Pound Sterling we are looking at paying the steep price of £280. But wait, that is basic and not including anything to play on it. Factor in another £60 for Zelda: Breath of the Wild (lets face it who won't be getting it). But hang on what about accessories, we need to be able to charge our Joy-Cons so another £25 for a joy-con charging grip, unless we're content to just charge them up on the base unit (optional). But either way just to get playing we're looking at spending £340-£365 outright.

Granted it's the latest and greatest that Ninty have to offer, it's new, it's exciting, but in comparison to the other market leaders out there you can pickup an XBoxOne or PlayStation4 for £240 now-a-days. And then theres the excessive cost of the Switch games and online services too. What is the appeal going to be to anyone outside of the Nintendo fan-base at this price? Low I would wager. Once again Ninty are shooting themselves in the foot with the excessive launch price and excluding vast swathes of potential customers. Now if the Switch had a competitive launch price of £200, bam! The uptake would be exponential. However I expect in 6-12 months post launch we will see retailers cutting the price of the Switch, just like they did on the over-priced under-hyped WiiU. C'mon Nintendo why won't you learn from your mistakes and stop trying to line your pockets, get the Switch out there at a price the people can afford (especially us cash-strapped Brits) because we all know the most money made is on the games not the platform itself.

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Kit

mav-i-am

It would have been nice to have bundles to choose from but I am not sure the console is overpriced tbh.

The peripherals yes, but that is usually sorted by 3rd parties anyway.

I am yet to pre order mine but that is because I need to decide what games I will buy at launch, Zelda yes but want another to go with it.

Switch games list,

Legend of Zelda BotW, Human resource machine, NBA Playgrounds, Street Fighter 2, Super Bomberman R, Snipperclips, Overcooked, World of Goo.

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AlliMeadow

Let's get one thing clear once and for all. The Nintendo pricing for Zelda Breath of the Wild is £49.99, same as Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Arms. And 1… 2… Switch is £39.99. That's it. Some retailers choosing to sell the games for more is not Nintendo's fault. Do you want Switch games for the same price as Wii U games, then buy them at that price and stop this nonsense that Switch games are more expensive when in fact they aren't.

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jump

AlliMeadow wrote:

Let's get one thing clear once and for all. The Nintendo pricing for Zelda Breath of the Wild is £49.99, same as Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Arms. And 1… 2… Switch is £39.99. That's it. Some retailers choosing to sell the games for more is not Nintendo's fault. Do you want Switch games for the same price as Wii U games, then buy them at that price and stop this nonsense that Switch games are more expensive when in fact they aren't.

The official Nintendo store is selling the normal edition Zelda Switch for £59.99. You do however get a "free" shirt with it though.

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Alright, I gotta stop getting into arguments with jump. Someone remind me next time.

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AlliMeadow

@jump that must be because the regular version is sold out, a couple of days ago they did have the normal edition without the "free" shirt at £49.99. I checked it out because of the same kind of claim as OPs, but didn't speak up because I thought it wouldn't escalate. Seeing how more and more people are complaining about the price though, I feel it's necessary to point out the mistake. I'd bet that the official eShop price will be £49.99 / $60 / 499 kr / etc. as major Wii U titles used to be.

AlliMeadow

gcunit

The price of the hardware I can just about accept, but without any pack-in software, and a worrying lack of 3rd party support, coming off the back of the Wii U era, are making me stop making the investment. I want one, but it's too soon for me after other purchases to pay this much on a bit of a gamble. Nintendo, I like your hardware, and I like your games, but I'm finding it hard to like your business practices right now.

The price without a game and before an online subscription is too high for the mass market. So far, in the UK, it seems like the Switch is perceived even worse than the Wii U was, which is likely to see UK retailers again offering very little, if anything.

If Sony was releasing the Switch I think it would do well. But Nintendo's reputation is shot to pieces, and the amount of porting going on is not helping. Switch needs new, impressive games on show asap.

I have a pre-order for a neon Switch in place, but unless something changes between now and launch I will be cancelling and waiting for something to change for the better before I jump in. I love my Wii U and have many hundreds of hours left to play on it either way.

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Luna_110

I don't mind the price of the console - I wish it would have been around $250, but $300 isn't terrible.

As for the pack in game, I have to admit that I've never had much use for them in the Wii or Wii U. I always get another game focused on single player, since I don't have much people over for local multiplayer. At least for me, it's something I assumed from the beginning.

I agree, though, that the official accesories are expensive. But I disagree with everyone saying that they need the whole set of accesories.

You can play with a normal controller using the joy con grip, so unless you're too picky, you don't need the pro controller on day one. And you can charge the Joy cons by connecting them to the Switch - leave them charging at night or play as a handheld until they are charged. The battery with Zelda lasts 3 hours, and the Joycons charge in around three hours.

For me, the need of accesories (excluding cases and screen protectors) isn't a something you need on day one, you can perfectly wait for discounts or cheaper third parties accessories.

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jump

AlliMeadow wrote:

I'd bet that the official eShop price will be £49.99 / $60 / 499 kr / etc. as major Wii U titles used to be.

How much do you want to bet? #freemoney

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Andrzej777

In order to play zelda botw on switch I would have to invest about 440 EUR.
300 EUR for the console
70 for the pro controller (if I was so inclined as its not madatory)
70 EUr for the game (amazon.de price)

In order to play it on the wii u
about 44 EUR

The pricing is annoying me, it looks way overpriced and greedy to me. Its not about they money for me, its just the feeling that the value is not there, at least not for me.

Like everything this is a consumers choice. If people buy it like bread, they have made the right business decisions and the price will stay for some time. If most people wait and see what happens and the console doesnt sell well, then they will have adjust the prices (same as with the 3ds). I am somehow unwilling to support them on this level of pricing. If it werent for a couple of nintendo games, and thats the only reason why I buy their consoles, I would say that sony and ms offer a lot more value for a lower or comparable price. They even give you the best controller right from the start and not some gimmick.

Christmas 2017 at the earliest for me. - will see where they are going with this -. I dont think the pricing is fair, and buying it very early would send nintendo the wrong message.

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Grandpa_Pixel

You know, I was curious at the price. Why are people upset about it? So I went to have a look comparing it to the consoles (I can do handhelds if people want) and it really is not all that bad. Seems to be mountains out of molehills. Granted I threw it tougher relatively quickly, it should be good enough for what I noticed. I threw a screencap below to see what I looked up.

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Now that I look at it this way, the Switch is kind of a steal. I was lucky to try out the Switch and given the extremely high quality compared to previous Nintendo and current gen consoles, the £280 is 100% worth its price for me. It feels like a grown up's console.

Also, I am really confused given what I researched what people are complaining about? It does not seem as people make it out to be

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Ryu_Niiyama

Personally I was expecting 400USD and no game (So I had put aside 800USD to cover system, games and maybe a case) so I am very happy that I will get the system, a case and a game for less than that (thank you Amazon prime) and I have added a few other preorders and accessories since I will have some extra cash to spend.

The costs are only "hidden" if you feel you have to have those extra items. As is the 300 USD and whatever you pay for a game gets you a fully functional system day one. So 360USD plus tax (give or take discounts). At best you can say you need to buy a new hard drive...but honestly the 32gb is fine for launch. Unless you are all digital and you would want a bigger HDD with the twins as well so that isn't a Nintendo tax. You don't have to buy multiple joycons, or a procon or a case or anything else to play day 1. Also every system has these hidden costs. For instance whenever I buy a new system I expect to spend at least 200 in addition because I am going to buy a fightstick. Most systems come with one controller and at launch no games. You don't have to buy an extra anything but you may want to. Your wants aren't a hidden cost. You are choosing that upfront.

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Andrzej777

Grandpa_Pixel wrote:

You know, I was curious at the price. Why are people upset about it? So I went to have a look comparing it to the consoles (I can do handhelds if people want) and it really is not all that bad. Seems to be mountains out of molehills. Granted I threw it tougher relatively quickly, it should be good enough for what I noticed. I threw a screencap below to see what I looked up.

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Now that I look at it this way, the Switch is kind of a steal. I was lucky to try out the Switch and given the extremely high quality compared to previous Nintendo and current gen consoles, the £280 is 100% worth its price for me. It feels like a grown up's console.

Also, I am really confused given what I researched what people are complaining about? It does not seem as people make it out to be

Of course the switch is what it is, and compared to the xbox or ps you get not just the console itself but also a screen to play and technically would never even need a tv for it. While that might be true you also get an underpowered machine specswise compared to the other consoles. I dont know the specs but I wouldnt place a bet on it being on par with the consoles that came a couple of years BEFORE the switch.

The price for the switch itself is not bad at all IMHO, even without a game. Its an ok price. However, you need to take into account that many people will want a proper controller for it - the pro controller which is at 70 EUR I think - thats a little bit on the steep side IMHO - they could have at least provided the option of using the wii u pro controller - I think this would have worked. So in order to play it in a desired fashion you have to buy that one, too. The joy cons are expensive as well, if you or a child breaks on accidentally, you have to pay 50 EUR, buying a spare set makes it 80. If you want that charging grip thats another 30 I believe.
Another thing is that flash memory of AGAIN 32gb. They put that one into the wii u, which came out in 2011 I presume, and they still go with it. Sony and MS provide even 1TB harddrives, or at least 500gb, be that as it may, now you have to make an additional investment and buy microsd cards - thats fine with me, as I basically buy physical games and care little about downloads.
IMHO this is adding up and in the end you will be paying a lot. I wouldnt even be surprised if they made online gaming more expensive than ms and sony.
To me, like I said, it seems overpriced, never before did I really felt that cheaped out when it comes to nintendo.

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Andrzej777

I think this vid sums it up pretty nicely

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Nin10dad

I think if every single Switch had 1,2 Switch pre installed, nobody would be complaining about the price point. As it is, maybe it's a bit steep, with all the accessories and a collectors edition Zelda, I've laid out £465. But you know what, lemons and limes. I can't wait!!

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rsbrowndog

I don't think it is too expensive. I think the problem is that so many people put too much stock in rumours that we would see a sub £200 price point or £250 with a pack-in game and a pro controller.

People need to get some perspective on the prices. Comparing to PS4 or XB1 is apples and oranges. Does the PS4 have a screen? Can I play it on the bus or in my lunch break at work? And let's not ignore the fact that the launch price for PS4 was £349, making it £70 more than Switch.

Speaking of Apple (okay, tentative link but I did say "apples and oranges" in the last paragraph!) let's compare the prices of Switch accessories with Apple products.

Basic headphones? £29.
Airpods? £159.
Charger? £19 for the unit, £19 for a 1m cable (add another £10 if you want a 2m version)

Oh and while we're at it, the price of a 32 Gb iPad Mini 4 (WiFi) - arguably more comparable to the Switch than a PS4/XB1? £379, so £100 more than the Switch.

Prices don't look so bad now, do they?

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Octane

@rsbrowndog To be fair, anything is inexpensive when you compare them to Apple products.

Octane

rsbrowndog

@Octane This is true, but I do wonder how many people complaining about the Switch price own an iPhone, iPad, MacBook, etc.?

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JamesR

I think it is pretty steep, especially considering the pre-launch rumours.

There are a few things to be grateful for:
-Zelda does indeed cost "only" £49.99. That's the price on Amazon and I'm sure that it will drop in the days after the Switch launch.
-With 32GB of internal memory, you'll probably be able to keep Zelda, Mario Kart and Splatoon on the system along with a bunch of eShop/VC games without the need for an SD card
-The joy-con grip is getting a lot of love from those who have tried it. This probably makes the need for a Pro Controller less pressing.
-Personally, I'm not getting the charge-grip. With 20 hours of battery life, I'm happy to have them charge with the system (personally, I will be using the Switch as a handheld).

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Octane

@rsbrowndog I know for sure I don't, I can get way better quality products for those prices

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JamesR

It's been mentioned above but I really think the comparison is with an iPad Mini. I know Nintendo want this to be a home console that you can take with you (rather than a handheld you can plug into the TV) but I would imagine that many people would consider this as an iPad replacement for the kids. I have a bunch of kids and we are buying multiple switches in the same way as we bought multiple 3DS. (And while I'm on the subject, is Nintendo would sell me a Switch without the dock I would be grateful)

IMHO, the reason why they want to keep the 3DS alive is because (a) they can sell a lot of games given its install base; and (b) there are significant games (some from third parties) that have yet to hit market. Nintendo can't burn these games' developers by indicating that support for the 3DS is gone/going. The Wii U is a lot safer as there are very few games left in the pipeline.

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