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mav-i-am

I was having a discussion here about "system selling" games, it proved interesting enough I feel it deserves its own thread.

What do you consider to be System selling games for Nintendo? do you think any are waiting to step back from this status? are any going to become system sellers in there own right?

Finally, What do you think Sony and Microsoft have as system selling games?

For me "Our" system selling games are...

Mario Bros,
Mario Kart,
Smash Bros,
Animal Crossing,
Pokemon,
Zelda.

The Games I feel "may" step up to this status are..

Splatoon (to early to tell with only one version out so far!),
Wii Sports / Resort (If this returns it will be interesting to see if it can recapture an audience),
Fire Emblem (seems to be growing every version since awakening).

As for MS and Sony?

Halo,
Forza,

FF,
Killzone,
Horizon,
Uncharted,
Gran Turismo
Ratchet and Clank
God of War
Spyro

(I await cries of how did you miss X or Y!)

I am genuinely interested in what others think.

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Anti-Matter

Ah...
I will mention my two of System Seller : Nintendo and Sony.

From Nintendo :

  • Animal Crossing games
  • Pokemon games
  • 3D Open World Mario games
  • Bokujou Monogatari
  • Mii games
  • Wii Party
  • Any cute games
  • Style Savvy series
  • Cooking Mama series
  • Mario Kart games
    etc. Still so many.

From Sony (Based on PS1 & PS2) :

  • Dance Dance Revolution
  • Para Para Paradise
  • Guitar Freaks & DrumMania
  • Pop'n Music
  • Beatmania IIDX
  • K-1 World series
  • Street Fighter series
  • Final Fantasy Roman number series
  • Bomberman
  • Cute Puzzle games such as Magical Drop / Puzzle Bobble / Magical Tetris feat. Disney
  • Kingdom Hearts
  • Monster Rancher
  • Any unique games

Top 8 Konami's Rhythm games:
1. Dance Dance Revolution
2. Para Para Paradise
3. DrumMania
4. Beatmania IIDX
5. Pop'n Music
6. KeyboardMania
7. Martial Beat
8. DANCE EVOLUTION

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FullbringIchigo

honestly for me, announce a Legend of Zelda game for a new Nintendo system and i'll buy it and as long as PlayStation keeps getting a majority of Final Fantasy games exclusively i'll be buying those too

as for XBOX it doesn't really have any "System Sellers" i'm interested in

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BigBadJohn

Of these suggestions I find Pokemon the most interesting. It has definitely been a system seller for portable consoles, will it do the same for a hybrid.

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skywake

A system seller is pretty much any game that can move a significant number of units. But the real trick is that it has to be a game that will move units for the current platform. It's not as simple as scrolling down a list of best selling games of all time and picking big titles. It has to be something that's still relevant.

So for Nintendo I'd probably say only these games:
Pokemon, Mario Kart, Mario, Animal Crossing, Smash Bros, Splatoon, Zelda

And for the industry in general I'd say:
GTA, CoD, FIFA, Minecraft, Uncharted, The Last of Us, Halo, Forza

Edited on by skywake

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JasmineDragon

@mav-i-am Fire Emblem and Splatoon are definitely system sellers at this point. Monster Hunter probably qualifies, too - definitely in Japan, debatable for the rest if the world.

Metroid Prime used to be one. Now, I'm not sure.

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mav-i-am

skywake wrote:

A system seller is pretty much any game that can move a significant number of units. But the real trick is that it has to be a game that will move units for the current platform. It's not as simple as scrolling down a list of best selling games of all time and picking big titles. It has to be something that's still relevant.

agree 100%

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gcunit

I doubt one game will ever 'sell' a system to me. And as soon as you start grouping them, saying "Well I bought the system to play X, Y & Z games" then those individual games are not system sellers.

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Timppis

@JasmineDragon

Fire Emblem is no way a system seller. It is a beloved series and that's it.

Metroid has never been a system seller. It's more of a fan favourite, but definitely not a system seller.

For Nintendo there really are only few Franchises that stand out, Mario (Kart as well), Zelda, Pokemon as the head honchos. Animal Crossing, Smash Bros. as second tier with Splatoon really climbing up there it seems, but we can't really tell until we see how Spla2oon does.

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KirbyTheVampire

skywake wrote:

A system seller is pretty much any game that can move a significant number of units. But the real trick is that it has to be a game that will move units for the current platform. It's not as simple as scrolling down a list of best selling games of all time and picking big titles. It has to be something that's still relevant.

So for Nintendo I'd probably say only these games:
Pokemon, Mario Kart, Mario, Animal Crossing, Smash Bros, Splatoon, Zelda

And for the industry in general I'd say:
GTA, CoD, FIFA, Minecraft, Uncharted, The Last of Us, Halo, Forza

I pretty much agree with this list, although I would add The Elder Scrolls and The Witcher to it. Probably Fallout as well.

KirbyTheVampire

rallydefault

Nintendo's system sellers are and always have been ANYthing Mario, Zelda, and (somewhat recently - showing my age) Pokemon.

Metroid, by the numbers, is NOT a system seller no matter how hard we try to say it is. It just isn't.
Stuff like Animal Crossing, Kirby, even Yoshi - nice to entertain the thought, but ultimately not system sellers.

The only borderline title is Smash, I think. But I think that can probably go under the "ANYthing Mario" category.

It also gets interesting when you consider culture. Splatoon is now HUGE in Japan, so perhaps can be considered a system seller in Japan only.

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rallydefault

Octane

@rallydefault Animal Crossing does really well on handhelds, on the DS and 3DS the franchise sold around 12 and 10 million respectively. It's one of the better selling games on those systems and I'm sure the franchise has moved a fair amount of handhelds. So I would say those are system sellers.

Octane

Krull

Thanks, @mav-i-am I'll pitch in!

I'd argue a system seller has to be exclusive to, if not one platform, at least only a few, so that people are channelled into a particular format to play. Therefore, though people go nuts for the likes of Grand Theft Auto and The Witcher, the lack of exclusivity means they aren't technically system sellers. Though a new GTA indisputably bumps hardware sales.

Only Sony can rival Nintendo for system sellers these days. God of War, Gran Turismo, Uncharted, The Last of Us, possibly LittleBigPlanet and now almost certainly Horizon Zero Dawn. I'd put titles like Killzone, Bloodborne etc, in a lower tier, maybe.

Microsoft has Halo. I'm not a racing fan, so can't comment on Forza. It's exclusive, I guess.

I'd throw in Dragon Quest with Final Fantasy as a system-selling RPG - they're up there with Monster Hunter, in that I suspect people will actively change console to keep playing the latest in the series - particularly DQ and MH in Japan. Can't really think of many modern system-selling WRPGs, as they tend to be multi-platform, but I'm sure others can.

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JasmineDragon

Timppis wrote:

@JasmineDragon

Fire Emblem is no way a system seller. It is a beloved series and that's it.

Metroid has never been a system seller. It's more of a fan favourite, but definitely not a system seller.

There are people who will buy Switches when, and only when, those games come out. That's what "system seller" means. Those franchises aren't as big as the usual suspects mentioned here, but I think they qualify.

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rallydefault

@JasmineDragon
Yes, they are literally "system sellers," but if you're going to take that pedantic approach to the phrase, then what use is this thread? EVERY game can then be considered a "system-seller."

rallydefault

JasmineDragon

@rallydefault Wait, this thread has a purpose? I thought it was just a couple of Nintendo fans kicking titles around. Nobody told me we were supposed to have a purpose!

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skywake

I know of a LOT of people who will buy a Nintendo console just for Animal Crossing. To the point where when I brought up the Wii U the first question from some of them was "does it have Animal Crossing?". If it had Animal Crossing they would have brought it.

I don't know of anyone who feels the same way about Metroid. Well, nobody who isn't also a big enough Nintendo fan to be buying Nintendo consoles for the menu.

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KirbyTheVampire

skywake wrote:

I know of a LOT of people who will buy a Nintendo console just for Animal Crossing. To the point where when I brought up the Wii U the first question from some of them was "does it have Animal Crossing?". If it had Animal Crossing they would have brought it.

I don't know of anyone who feels the same way about Metroid. Well, nobody who isn't also a big enough Nintendo fan to be buying Nintendo consoles for the menu.

I would buy one for Animal Crossing, lol.

KirbyTheVampire

gcunit

Wii U really missed an Animal Crossing type game hopefully it's absence means the Switch version will feel even better.

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