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Grumblevolcano

Given how impressive the Dreams creations are getting, I wonder when someone will create a Direct using Dreams.

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FragRed

@Grumblevolcano It will be the Direct to end all Directs!

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StuTwo

@Dezzy The thing is though that there are literally tens of thousands of "commentators" on the internet making predictions all of the time. There are only 365 days in the year - if every completely uninformed commentator picks one at random and says "there'll be a direct on this date" then a fair number of them will pick the right day just by chance.

A commentator who has some intuition - not insider knowledge, just a vague idea of how the industry works - can easily focus down a particular topic to a much smaller set of days than 365. We all "knew" there would be a Animal Crossing direct before the release. We all "knew" that it would be on a weekday. We all "knew" it would be within 2 months of the release (and more than 2 weeks before). We also know that the distribution of directs within a week are skewed towards the middle of the week and rarely on a Monday or Friday.

The odds of someone guessing the right day are actually quite high.

It's like the famous story about how to become a successful business consultant: send 100 letters to CEO's telling them you've analysed the industry and they will fail to beat the average results in that industry over the next quarter. Half of them will. You then send 50 letters to the CEO's who you'd correctly predicted results last time and tell them the same again. Half of your predictions will be correct. You then send 25 letters to those CEO's and so on. Eventually you end up with a small number of CEO's who think you basically have super powers and can cash in.

None of which is to say that these particular commentators don't have insider contacts or information (they may well do so) but we don't know it.

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Just as an aside - last year I correctly predicted on this forum the content of a Nintendo Direct being the reveal of a Bravely Default sequel. It was just an educated guess but had I been on Twitter (and been an amoral idiot) I could have built up a group of followers on the back of that.

Another educated guess would be that there will be a decent sized indie Direct with several timed-exclusive indie games revealed (and also a good look at both Hollow Knight Silksong and Sports Story) next Wednesday (26th).

I think a full fat direct is waiting until Sony or Microsoft decides to end their Mexican stand off on releasing more information about PS5 / XBox series X - specifically games and prices. Honestly I think Sony is terrified of going first because Microsoft has resolved to significantly undercut them on whatever price they announce. Microsoft isn't stupid - they saw what Sony did from a marketing perspective last time around (and what they have done in the past - the way they castrated the Saturn with a simple price announcement for instance), they'll wait. They have no reason to go first.

Nintendo doesn't need to talk about autumn and Christmas until they know what Sony and Microsoft are releasing so I don't think they will. The current default in a quiet market (Switch selling the most and perennial Switch favourites like Smash, Mario Kart and BoTW filling the best sellers charts) suits them perfectly. It might be that we don't know what their big Christmas anchor is until E3.

They could even keep (say) a Mario 3D World port under wraps until September to help them control the narrative if Sony are still being cagey about their launch line up at the end of May. The worst thing Nintendo can do is put all of their cards on the table and then Sony announce an absolutely killer launch line up for the PS5. You're not only old news then but also compared unfavourably.

The flip side is that Sony don't want to announce an underwhelming launch line up and price and then have Microsoft announce "oh our new studios have half a dozen gorgeous RPGs and FPSs ready for launch day and our box is £100 cheaper" and Nintendo then announce "oh BoTW2, Bayonetta 3 and Metroid Prime 4 are all November 2020 and Switch Lite is now just £100". It's so cagey and I don't see how Sony wins this one. They look a bit snookered to me.

But then they've always been the best company out there marketing consumer electronics (aside from Apple) and that's not random chance - they know what they're doing and they'll do it well as they almost always have in the past.

StuTwo

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StuTwo

Grumblevolcano wrote:

Given how impressive the Dreams creations are getting, I wonder when someone will create a Direct using Dreams.

Directception.

StuTwo

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link3710

@StuTwo Just wait, now that I got the AC direct date correct, once we have an April 1st general direct I too shall become internet famous.

Except not actually cause I don't care to hide these are just educated guesses.

But yeah, all companies being silent is so weird for a console launch year, even if you highlighted why it's happening.

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Octane

@link3710 Nintendo was silent on the Switch until four months or so before the release, and that was only a trailer with little information, and it worked. I don't understand the idea that Microsoft and Sony need to reveal everything now. The industry moves so fast these days. An April or May reveal would be fine as well. Preferably before E3, so third parties can announce stuff for the consoles, but other than that, there's no reason to.

Though with COVID-19, it's hard to say if they'll even make it this year. So many tech companies cancelled meetings and events. It doesn't make predictions easier...

Octane

Grumblevolcano

@Octane While they were silent on the system itself until around 4 months before launch, the main launch game (BotW) was promoted a huge amount 9 months before launch. Things are rather different for Sony and Microsoft, Halo Infinite is a BotW type situation but Microsoft's seemingly staying silent about that until E3 2020 and on the Sony front the big 1st party launch titles are probably PS5 exclusive.

So unless coronavirus is delaying the consoles to 2021, news needs to coming soon.

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NotTelevision

It made sense for Xbox to come out the gate first since they want to get fans of the brand excited for something. They did some pretty cool reveals at the last Microsoft event/game awards, so the message is “be there in late 2020 and 2021 because now we have games for you”. Most of 2020 is a dry year for them.

Sony is going to have another big year with PS4 and there is no reason to have platform holders looking too far in the future. Everybody already knows about the PS5 anyway.

NotTelevision

TheAwesomeBowser

Where's the Direct?

Own up to Joy-Con Drift, Nintendo. We all know it's your fault

link3710

@Octane By the initial launch trailer (October 2016) 6 months before launch we already had a ton of information. The play anywhere idea had already been established as the main selling point, and we knew a new 3D Mario, Breath of the Wild, Skyrim, Mario Kart 8, NBA 2K, and Splatoon 2 were coming early on in the system's life. In other words, we knew a ton of flagship system selling items from Nintendo, and had confirmation of two companies that usually ignored Nintendo were on-board.

So while we aren't quite 6 months out yet... (maybe?), I'd expect that they need to at least get some sort of 'this is why you should buy this system' point out by then.

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JokerCK

Guys, this is the job of a man called Bowser.We haven't seen a real Nintendo Direct since he arrived.What do we expect from someone with a last name of Bowser?Really.

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Anti-Matter

"Bowser" has kidnapped Peach again inside Nintendo HQ ? 🤣

Anti-Matter

Octane

@link3710 It didn't help Nintendo that they had no games left for the Wii U I think. On the PS4 front, Sony just released Dreams, The Last of Us is coming up, and so is Ghost of Tsushima. And while FF7 isn't made by them, it's exclusive I think? And Microsoft has Ori at least. Not sure if there are any more 2020 scheduled, though I guess that Halo Infinite is coming to Xbox One as well. So the situation is a bit different.

Though yeah, I definitely expect some news from Sony before E3. And Microsoft has already sort of announced the system, so they can easily wait until E3.

Octane

StuTwo

@Octane I think there are differences between Nintendo and the Switch & Sony/Microsoft just now.

1. Sony and Microsoft are in a very direct competition with each other. They can’t stand a “softish” launch like Nintendo had - a failure to establish an early lead could be devastating for either Sony or Microsoft.

2. The timing of the release being Christmas and the expectation that both new consoles will sell 2-3x what Switch did in its first quarter.

Some of that momentum has to start rolling soon. In particular they have to let the public (and retailers) know soon: are we talking about a console with the edge to sell 4 million units or 6 million units this Christmas.

Games are part of that but the price is probably bigger and I don’t think either wants to risk being gazumpted.

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Grumblevolcano

XB1 1st party titles left are:

  • Ori and the Will of the Wisps (March 11th)
  • Bleeding Edge (March 24th)
  • Minecraft Dungeons (April 2020) - Also releasing on PS4 and Switch
  • Wasteland 3 (May 19th) - Also releasing on PS4
  • Grounded (Spring 2020)
  • Gears Tactics (TBA, PC is April 28th)
  • Microsoft Flight Simulator (TBA 2020)
  • Battletoads (TBA)
  • Psychonauts 2 (TBA 2020) - Also releasing on PS4
  • Halo Infinite (TBA 2020)
  • Everwild (TBA)

For the PC side of Microsoft 1st party there's also:

  • Age of Empires IV (TBA 2020)
  • Age of Empires III Definitive Edition (TBA)
  • Halo CE Anniversary (TBA 2020)
  • Halo 2 Anniversary (TBA 2020)
  • Halo 3 (TBA 2020)
  • Halo 3 ODST (TBA 2020)
  • Halo 4 (TBA 2020)
  • Hellblade II (TBA) - Also on Xbox Series X (not yet confirmed for XB1 so could be for after the crossplatform window)

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Anti-Matter

@Grumblevolcano
(Seeing the Xbox games list)
NONE of them are interesting to me.
This is the reason why Microsoft cannot sell their games to casual gamer like me and other gamers.
Microsoft needs to provide more casual and cute games for some audiences.
Not everyone bought Xbox machine for playing shooting games or action games all the time.

Anti-Matter

Anti-Matter

@link3710
Um...
Not interested by the character design, gameplay and Dark color vibes.
I prefer something bright and colorful.

Anti-Matter

Dezzy

Octane wrote:

And while FF7 isn't made by them, it's exclusive I think?

1 year timed exclusive. They haven't said anything explicitly but the implication was that it'll come to Xbox and PC after that.

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Don

How likely are we to get a general Direct this week?

Don

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