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Topic: Is Nintendo resting on its laurels?

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Yorumi

@ReaderRagfish I think the switch will do ok in the end, it's mostly to point out that the complaint that it's not getting games is fairly valid. The n64 didn't do great compared to the others but the system with "no games" had a better start. That's concerning to a number of people. I think it leads credibility to the idea that nintendo isn't really trying as hard as they could.

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RunGMhx

@Therad You mean the 3DS? Ok but the new one shouldn't be a switch replacement but more of a entry tier portable no? Seems to me like to lines of hardware and therefore two different lineup... Also I'm not so sure about the new portable not being the switch, because previous portable exclusive are now scheduled for the Switch (Pokemon and Fire Emblem main series are what I have in mind...)

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HobbitGamer

@GrailUK @Yorumi

Maths, because they're not nostalgic.
Famicom/NES lifecycle releases, per month, world wide = 7.98
Super Famicom/SNES = 14.64
Genesis = 9.34
N64 = 4.014
PS1 = 21.53
Xbox = 12.46
Gamecube = 9.14
PS2 = 16.33

Not even doing last or current, because the trend is visible. Save for the SNES, Nintendo has had fewer total titles for systems. This isn't some new thing. I think that's the whole quality vs quantity argument

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Mountain_Man

People love second-guessing Nintendo. But you know what I've learned over the years? Don't second-guess Nintendo. They've been in this business for a very long time, and they actually know what they're doing.

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LuckyLand

I wouldn't say it's resting on its laurels, it's more that it has become incredibly arrogant due to the fact that their latest console have been such a huge success. At first that console totally deserved that success, Switch could be really great, but not now that Nintendo is behaving this way and being so arrogant with their own customers.

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Cobalt

@GrailUK

You're right but :

MARIO 64
GOLDENEYE
STARFOX64
WAVERACE
PILOTWINGS64
KILLER INSTINCT
TUROK
STARWARS

God, you know how iconic those licences are ? I'm sorry but when I see exclusives such as :

1 2 SWITCH
Snipperclips
Nintendo Labo
ARMS
etc...

_+ Wii U ports
_+ inferior PS4/ONE ports (Ys VIII/DOOM etc...)

What's left ?

Xenoblade 2 which is not the best of the 3(for me) and unpolished...
Mario Odyssey (the most overated 3D Mario for me)
Splatoon 2 which is really a big enhanced version of the Wii U one.
Fire Emblem Warriors mehhh
etc...

I just wanna point the fact that the N64 exclusives are really stronger in term of impact.

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@LuckyLand

Yeah and I'm almost convinced that if we have to pay for the online service IT'S BECAUSE the Switch is a success.
There is something wrong in the mentality behind it.

Cobalt

SwitchForce

LuckyLand wrote:

I wouldn't say it's resting on its laurels, it's more that it has become incredibly arrogant due to the fact that their latest console have been such a huge success. At first that console totally deserved that success, Switch could be really great, but not now that Nintendo is behaving this way and being so arrogant with their own customers.

Care to point to phrases from NIN that says that? Successive comes with risk and thinking Outside the Box why else would we get a NSW that can Dock and go portable. Just like the other poster said Mountain_Man just reiterated we not NIN so don't go thinking you know what they know better. I think there's alot of second guesser here not those in the trenches of NIN that knows from what they read only. Maybe their line of thought to them isn't arrogance remember they are from a Japanese culture not yours. But Shrewd business minds knows when to look around and know what works and don't work as well to as well. Let's put this thought the NSW is 1.5 years old and we got complainers I call that a good job. If we didn't hear that it means they aren't doing good.

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Aozz101x

2018 wasnt bad. could use more original non port release from 1st party.
2017 was not bad, less 1st party ports. more 1st party original games (weather or not you like them. most were original. Arms and Snipperclips to be exact. )
2019 could be better.

imagine if they delay Kirby: Star Allies and Mario Tennis Aces from Fall 2018 to 2019. yes, would had the worst year, if these two didnt came out and more people complain. but, then we may gotten better games out of them. (although, Kirby on switch was just fine. )

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Cobalt

@ReaderRagfish

Yes it was but without solid infos. I see that more as a test to have a global view and if it could impact the sells or not.
I'm almost convinced if the Switch wasn't a success from the start, Nintendo would have probably stop that idea.

Maybe I'm wrong but it's really what I think about the online.

Cobalt

Yorumi

@ReaderRagfish @Cobalt It's actually hard to say if it was planned from the beginning or not. It was announced in the big event before launch. However, they had that pre-launch teaser in October and nothing about paid online was said there. That teaser generated a lot of hype. So it's possible they decided to go with it thanks to that, but it's also possible they were testing the waters in the event, and it's also possible they had just planned to do it anyway.

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Yorumi

@8-Bit_Superman they're using one of the absolute most unethical and scummy business practices in the game industry to make extra money. I wouldn't count on their benevolence.

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Cobalt

@8-Bit_Superman

No absolutly not...
Do you remember the "lootboox episode" with EA ?
They tried, they did, and when they saw the terrible impact on the sells, they changed their politic because the players were smart enough to be united against that infamy.

Even if it's not the same, I think there is something in the same vein.

Cobalt

Grumblevolcano

Isn't it usually 3rd parties that force paid online, the concept of "If you don't do paid online, we won't release games for your system"?

Grumblevolcano

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Mountain_Man

I don't understand this mentality that if the Switch doesn't see one AAA smash hit a month every month then it's somehow a disappointment. Even with its current "meager" library, there are more games for the Switch that I want than I have money to buy or time to play, and there's more on the way. That's more than enough for me to consider the Switch a success.

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Snaplocket

@Cobalt Even if you never owned a Wii U, there are still more then enough games both first and third-party to satisfy customers. I bought more games for my Switch year one then any other console or handheld.

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Yorumi

@Mountain_Man it’s not that people actually want to buy a game a month(some might but not most), it’s that we want to know there’s always going to be something we want. If we were getting more games then we’d likely be getting a larger variety. This year if you had a wiiU and aren’t into smash do you have much to look forward to the rest of the year?if we were getting a game a month and you didn’t like 8 of the, that’s still 4 games. On the other hand if we get 3 and you don’t like 1 that only two games.

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Grumblevolcano

Wii U's first year was terrible (barely anything worth playing until September 2013), its second year was a lot better but didn't manage to improve hardware sales so year 3 onwards went downhill.

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