I have to agree with the dock seeming overpriced. I initially thought about getting one for use when I visit my younger siblings at my parent's place, but it is just too expensive. I actually entertained just getting a second switch for awhile because I knew I wanted another set of Joycons for multiplayer with the family and another grip which together with a dock would cost $185 in the US. At that point another $115 for the console seems like a reasonable purchase.
The DLC has never been expensive. $20 is half of what most publishers charge for a season pass and the standard (and lowest) price for an individual story expansion to a singleplayer game. If any DLC was expensive it was the Smash Bros. characters on Wii U.
And finally, when PS4 launched for a hundred more dollars, its controllers which clearly do less cost $60 each. That's enough with the Switch alarmism. It's like people went into election mode all over with this thing — exhausting!
And finally, when PS4 launched for a hundred more dollars, its controllers which clearly do less cost $60 each. That's enough with the Switch alarmism. It's like people went into election mode all over with this thing — exhausting!
But just like Trump, the Switch wil win nonetheless.
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@MrHero The dock is relatively small, you can easily fit it in a modest sized bag. It's incredibly portable, so the need for a second dock is superfluous.
@Scal_Capone Right, and that is what I will do for now, but carrying the dock makes it not much more portable than the Wii U. The difference between dock and no dock for me determines whether I need a dedicated, albeit small, bag to carry the system in if I am going to take it for a weekend. It would be great if there was a better way to do TV play in a second frequently visited location without shelling out another $90 for a dock or toting the dock along. I just have a hard time believing that the dock makes up nearly 1/3 the cost of the system.
Thinking about it, and after reading this thread. I'm starting to realize they do get you with the accessories, and high prices of the accessories. Plus the fact that, at least for now. There's no console bundles with games as well. And honestly I've even seen a few other people on this site say. 1-2 Switch should be included with the console for free. Plus if I'm not mistaken. They did something similar when the Wii U was released. But I think and wish they would have included it for free.
Plus to Shell out all that money, at least for now. For a new console with a very very weak launch title lineup. I mean I don't know! I mean they could have done slightly better than what they're doing!
I think the problem is a lot of us here are looking at the whole picture. We're all buying a lot of stuff. Accessories, games, 2nd Switches (yes I know people who are). Heck I am buying 8 playstands for our gaming area at events
But the thing is, there are people out there who are just buying a Switch and 1 game. No Charging Grips. No lots of games. No extra accessories. Just the console and a game. So it is easy for us to say all of it is expensive. Because we are a community buy far more than the majority of gamers (casual and hardcore).
At the end of the day however, for someone to play either 1-2-Switch, Bomberman R or Zelda, all you need is a console and the game. Everything else is optional. Even a second pair of Joy-Cons. So for me personally, any extra costs is because I chose to make them regardless of the price.
@Grandpa_Pixel
Any console is expensive at launch if you buy all of the accessories you could possibly want. The difference with the Switch is that out of the box you have all the accessories most people will need. I've argued in this thread already that I think the Switch is, if anything, cheaper in this regard than most other consoles.
Going back to the Wii again, with that system you didn't get everything you needed in the box. You kinda needed to get a second WiiMote for two players. You needed a Classic Controller if you wanted to play N64/SNES VC games. I eventually got component cables and they were pretty necessary if you wanted the best picture quality. None of this was included in the box and it added up. It was also pretty mandatory to the point where you couldn't find it on the shelves. The Switch does all of that by default.
I know that in the first few months owning this thing I'll play Zelda, Snipperclips, Mario Kart 8 and probably some VC and indie games depending on what's available. I don't need any extra accessories to be able to enjoy that content as intended other than maybe a Pro Controller because of the D-Pad.
Going back to the Wii again, with that system you didn't get everything you needed in the box. You kinda needed to get a second WiiMote for two players. You needed a Classic Controller if you wanted to play N64/SNES VC games. I eventually got component cables and they were pretty necessary if you wanted the best picture quality. None of this was included in the box and it added up. It was also pretty mandatory to the point where you couldn't find it on the shelves. The Switch does all of that by default.
Eh, to be fair, the Wii was fully functional out of the box as well. You didn't need a Classic Controller, a second Wii Remote or component cables. In that case one could also argue that you need a second pair of Joy-Con for multiplayer/co-op, because not every game support the single Joy-Con configuration. Or what about an SD-card? I don't think the Switch is any different to other Nintendo consoles in that regard. It does what it has to do, and if you want more, there are umpteen million overpriced accessories to choose from.
@Octane
Yea, but still being fair, you need to acknowledge that the majority of launch games do accept the single-Joycon control scheme, and that makes the console 2-player ready directly out of the box, which zero consoles have been at launch in... who knows how many years? Just because a couple or a few games out of dozens doesn't take the configuration doesn't mean you can scrub out that achievement, because it is pretty awesome.
People saying that the dock is so expensive you're almost as well to buy a whole extra console... well I think that is generally the intention. Nintendo would much rather you buy a second Switch than just a spare dock, so things will be priced to tempt you to make that consideration.
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@rallydefault That's true, and I'm not ignoring that. I just disagreed with the idea that previous consoles didn't include everything you ''needed'', because every console has been functional out of the box.
@gcunit Wouldn't they make more profit of a dock than a Switch though? That doesn't make sense at all.
@Octane Based purely on a simple cost/income analysis of that transaction, then yes, there probably would be more profit just selling the dock.
But that's ignoring the rather more complex dynamics our consumer electronics sales. Nintendo could sell 10 docks for every Switch sold and the world won't notice, and it won't do much long-term good for Nintendo, but if the Switch itself starts selling, the sales themselves will breed sales - of a product appears to be popular it will convince fence sitters that it's worth buying, and as the numbers go up, gradually Switch and Nintendo becomes a good news story and Nintendo are back in the game.
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