Getting really old now. If you hate the service so much, please do move over to the PSP.
I would but in terms of the Minis, they are even MORE of a ripoff. lol
Also I always find it hilarious and ironic then when someone complains, the person, instead of just making a counter argument, complains about complaining. lol See you all could explain/enlighten me how why you feel that this game is worth $5 and why the pricing structure with DSiWare is acceptable, but instead just resort to omg you complain too much.
PSN, App store and XBLA exist, they are in the same world and can't be ignored or not compared to DSiWare. DSiWare is overpriced, or at least some of the release prices/content ratio make no sense, such as this one... And those God aweful DEMOS that Nintendo released.
As for devs making money? Do you think that the sales would be the same if this game was 200? I gurantee you that they would at least double if this game was 200 points. Look at the Sims camera, it's 200 points, garbage but is beating most games out there as opposed to the great Pop+ which think is unfair, but it's BECAUSE it's 200 points that it's getting so many more sales. This is what I don't get about Nintendo.
As good as a game this is, my opinion still stands. It just doesn't have enough content/variety to make me personally believe that this is worth 500 points. In my eyes it's 200. If it had 1 more board and even leaderboards then for sure, but just 1 board... No. 200 points. I mean look at Pop+ solo. That game is pack with enough content and variety/modes to justify 500. Same with DQ Wars (Well the online really justifies it lol) but this game is just one board with a small amount of VO and fancy retro video up top. Still a good game but not worth 500 points to me.
So you could counter my argument with an argument or just tell me to qq more. I don't care it's you opinion. lol Silly people. Oh and if you think I complain on these boards, you should see my survey comments to Nintendo! LOL You can't make a service better by saying how great it is all the time, not that Nintendo will ever listen.. They'll probably get their online right in the NEXT generation or the one after.... ANYways. lol
Here's a really simple counter that wins the argument instantly:
Value is entirely relative. You think something (or, well, everything) is overpriced. To me almost every single DSiWare release (and I have nearly every 500 or 800 point release, and some 200) has been justified.
If you don't like it than please do sell the DSi and go back to the iPhone. It's clearly not for you if you personally think it's overpriced. I'll continue to enjoy it for what it is.
End of story. You lose for trying to claim some kind of objective truth in your opinion.
I also don't understand this SD card thing. I save my games to my SD card. When I want to play them, I copy them to the system memory. It's not that big of a deal.
that just takes to long and it is pointless if i want to play a game i want quick acsess to it! like i said email nintendo becuase we need this soon or dsi ware dies.
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I also don't understand this SD card thing. I save my games to my SD card. When I want to play them, I copy them to the system memory. It's not that big of a deal.
It is if you had a Wii pre 4.0... Why they would make people go through that god aweful set up twice is beyond me. My GUESS is that they're afraid of dem dar pirates! GARRRR! Taking advantage of that transfer system somehow that is.
I can't believe how amazingly lazy people are who don't have the patience to wait 10 second to access a game - what did you do when you had to swap physical cartridges? Man that must have been hard work.
that just takes to long and is pointless if i want to play a game i want quick acsess to it! like i said email nintendo becuase we need this soon or dsi ware dies.
You too. It would take longer to swap physical games in a disc or cartridge based system.
I also don't understand this SD card thing. I save my games to my SD card. When I want to play them, I copy them to the system memory. It's not that big of a deal.
It is if you had a Wii pre 4.0... Why they would make people go through that god aweful set up twice is beyond me. My GUESS is that they're afraid of dem dar pirates! GARRRR! Taking advantage of that transfer system somehow that is.
I can't believe how amazingly lazy people are who don't have the patience to wait 10 second to access a game - what did you do when you had to swap physical cartridges? Man that must have been hard work.
that just takes to long and is pointless if i want to play a game i want quick acsess to it! like i said email nintendo becuase we need this soon or dsi ware dies.
You too. It would take longer to swap physical games in a disc or cartridge based system.
10min is rediculas and yes im not a lazy video gamer but if you have up to 60 games you saved on your sd card would you take 20 min to look threw them to find the one you want to save to your systime memory that takes another 3min.
i realy think you should look at how happy people have become with there wii's after firmware update 4.0 also the online rants for that ended and finaly peace was brought to ign and gamespot and nintendo life ect.
also it might take days to put all your games on your sd card one by one then delete them from the dsi's 518MB or memory. gosh its a waist of your time if it will take 20min i can take 10min to the max and after that im just so mad i just want to get to my games!
also that is not true about it would take longer to swap cartridge. it takes only about 20sec to get into your game becuase you can swamp out out your game cartridge on the dsi's menu. also for dowloads i get fromthe dsi shop i want itto be atleast the same time as a cartradge would take.
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I also don't understand this SD card thing. I save my games to my SD card. When I want to play them, I copy them to the system memory. It's not that big of a deal.
It is if you had a Wii pre 4.0... Why they would make people go through that god aweful set up twice is beyond me. My GUESS is that they're afraid of dem dar pirates! GARRRR! Taking advantage of that transfer system somehow that is.
I can't believe how amazingly lazy people are who don't have the patience to wait 10 second to access a game - what did you do when you had to swap physical cartridges? Man that must have been hard work.
that just takes to long and is pointless if i want to play a game i want quick acsess to it! like i said email nintendo becuase we need this soon or dsi ware dies.
You too. It would take longer to swap physical games in a disc or cartridge based system.
10min is rediculas and yes im not a lazy video gamer but if you have up to 60 games you saved on your sd card would you take 20 min to look threw them to find the one you want to save to your systime memory that takes another 3min.
i realy think you should look at how happy people have become with there wii's after firmware update 4.0 also the online rants for that ended and finaly peace was brought to ign and gamespot and nintendo life ect.
10 minutes? Ok. Just as a test I will, right now, time the length of time it takes to copy the last game on my system's SD card memory to the DSi.
1 minute. At it was one of the larger games too - Yummy Yummy Cooking Jam is 96 blocks. 1 minute.
Once again, I ask - what did you do when you had to physically swap cartridges? That would take a minute too.
This is such an unbelievably lazy attitude I honestly wonder if you haven't bought yourself a motorised wheelchair so you don't need to go to the effort of actually walking <_<
also it might take days to put all your games on your sd card one by one then delete them from the dsi's 518MB or memory. gosh its a waist of your time if it will take 20min i can take 10min to the max and after that im just so mad i just want to get to my games!
No, when I decided to copy literally everything to the SD slot so I would only have one game running on my DS' memory at any one time, it took, at most, 10 minutes. To copy everything
Exaggeration to the level that you're doing it is only going to hurt your argument.
um you had to go into options go to data menu go to systime find your game who knows you might have lots of games in that old sd card then select copy. then go to menu then play. why do all that when you can go to a sd card menu and launch it from there. also we are talking about the DSI not the ds or ds lite. dont put R4 into this fight
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um you had to go into options go to data menu go to systime find your game who knows you might have lots of games in that old sd card then select copy. then go to menu then play. why do all that when you can go to a sd card menu and launch it from there.
Yes. It takes a minute. A minute. You are complaining on having to take a minute to access a game.
I take more time deciding what game I want to play FFS.
Okay people can you stop arguing in this thread? Pretty much the only allowed argument is "Does this game justify the price tag?" which I am interested in knowing.
Highly recommended to anyone who likes/loves pinball. I certainly wouldn't mind seeing this franchise grow. This arcade pinball game is great fun. I've been waiting for such a game for a long time, since MP Pinball showed that the DS was definitely very capable of delivering a very good experience. It sure is the first one to really deliver. 500 points really is a good price for this game; anyone who thinks this should be 200 needs to think about the amount of work that goes into such. I don't at all mind it being one table only since I prefer quality over quantity, and it is certainly very well made. Kudos to Fuse (creators of Metroid Prime Pinball).
I really like the LCD display. Talk about old-school, including the LCD-screen-based minigames. I'm very much digging the Greek mythology theme; I've always been quite drawn to stuff like that and it works well for the game as there's good variety in objectives and goals here. I found Medsua's challenge to be quite clever. She turns your ball into stone, and once you turn it back to silver (by shooting it into Zeus's/Hera's mouth) and shoot it back at Medusa you defeat her by her looking into her mirror image. Add to that the excellent visual polish, great ball physics, the somewhat cheesy but enjoyable voice-overs and you got yourself a great portable game of pinball. Yup, this one's a sure winner to me.
Now where's my Pinball of the Dead DS remake?
Wow. I didn't realize that's how Medusa's challenge worked! LOL. I did see that she turns the ball to stone, but I never knew what to do after that beyond racking up Stone Ball Bonus points... Thanks for clearing that up! Wow, what a great game.
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Getting really old now. If you hate the service so much, please do move over to the PSP.
I would but in terms of the Minis, they are even MORE of a ripoff. lol
Also I always find it hilarious and ironic then when someone complains, the person, instead of just making a counter argument, complains about complaining. lol See you all could explain/enlighten me how why you feel that this game is worth $5 and why the pricing structure with DSiWare is acceptable, but instead just resort to omg you complain too much.
PSN, App store and XBLA exist, they are in the same world and can't be ignored or not compared to DSiWare. DSiWare is overpriced, or at least some of the release prices/content ratio make no sense, such as this one... And those God aweful DEMOS that Nintendo released.
As for devs making money? Do you think that the sales would be the same if this game was 200? I gurantee you that they would at least double if this game was 200 points. Look at the Sims camera, it's 200 points, garbage but is beating most games out there as opposed to the great Pop+ which think is unfair, but it's BECAUSE it's 200 points that it's getting so many more sales. This is what I don't get about Nintendo.
As good as a game this is, my opinion still stands. It just doesn't have enough content/variety to make me personally believe that this is worth 500 points. In my eyes it's 200. If it had 1 more board and even leaderboards then for sure, but just 1 board... No. 200 points. I mean look at Pop+ solo. That game is pack with enough content and variety/modes to justify 500. Same with DQ Wars (Well the online really justifies it lol) but this game is just one board with a small amount of VO and fancy retro video up top. Still a good game but not worth 500 points to me.
So you could counter my argument with an argument or just tell me to qq more. I don't care it's you opinion. lol Silly people. Oh and if you think I complain on these boards, you should see my survey comments to Nintendo! LOL You can't make a service better by saying how great it is all the time, not that Nintendo will ever listen.. They'll probably get their online right in the NEXT generation or the one after.... ANYways. lol
You make very valid points. You do tend to complain about DSi an awful lot though. Sometimes maybe you should give it a break. Overall your right. Nintendo does suck at all things online. I just hope it doesn't bite them in the butt as the market expands. I stopped caring about their clunky services a long time ago and just focused on the quality of individual games as it's clear Nintendo didn't make any of their systems "future proof" like their competitors.
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also it might take days to put all your games on your sd card one by one then delete them from the dsi's 518MB or memory. gosh its a waist of your time if it will take 20min i can take 10min to the max and after that im just so mad i just want to get to my games!
also that is not true about it would take longer to swap cartridge. it takes only about 20sec to get into your game becuase you can swamp out out your game cartridge on the dsi's menu. also for dowloads i get fromthe dsi shop i want itto be atleast the same time as a cartradge would take.
Just to correct you there, from my math, DSiWare actually has around 105MB of space from the 256MB of space on the DSi. Give or take a few MB. The rest is put aside for photos, the sound editor, OS and junk. Which I think is incredibly short-sighted since 105MB of space when most games are around 10MB is just not enough space. The whole point of on board memory is having fast no hardware access to games/apps/whatever. Having to "clean out your fridge" so to speak every week just defeats the whole point of it. The games should just be retail then (Which many of Nintendo DSiWare games actually are lol)
Also I'll recommend this game, cause it IS a good game, but I still don't personally believe it to be actually worth the 500 points it's valued at.
Okay people can you stop arguing in this thread? Pretty much the only allowed argument is "Does this game justify the price tag?" which I am interested in knowing.
Ditto. And yes, it is justified. THis game rocks!!! Read the IGN review...
I am raising my 7/10 to an 8/10 for this game because I truly believe it is the best DSiWare release us puzzle and arcade fans have had in a long time. $5.00 for us Americans is a great deal for this game, even with the one table. It's just so magically put together and very responsive and real, so please go grab it before I scream. LOL.
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Okay people can you stop arguing in this thread? Pretty much the only allowed argument is "Does this game justify the price tag?" which I am interested in knowing.
I say no, but get it anyways. It's a solid game and the only pinball on DSiWare, I just don't think it's worth 500 points, but there really isn't any other choice for probably well over a year lol if you want a pinball DSiWare.
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