Talking Point: Would A Third Wave Of Smash Bros. Ultimate DLC Have Been Too Much?

First Picks For a Wave 3: Waluigi and Oatchi!

I would have definitely taken a Fighter's Pass 3 with Professor Layton, Rayman, Master Chief, Paper Mario, and Sub-Zero/Scorpion.

With what Sakurai said recently on the future of the series, my hope is that Ultimate just gets more Ultimate. Add some more characters, stages and balance changes for the next system, because it is really designed as the "perfect" Smash game.

Anyone else would've been better than Sora because at that time Square was ticking me off to no end with their bs.

#Chibi-Robo In Smash

If Sakurai's health wasn't in the equation then yeah totally!

Every now and then I still think: "Boy, I hope Rayman's doing ok in that ice"

Just make a new game. No need to artificially extend ultimate's lifespan with a port and more characters, the game has run its course.

Plus I don't want to have any more stupid bickering about theorising who can or cannot get in and supposed leaks and patterns to hint at the next character, we had YEARS of that and it was insufferable, and the mario kart DLC has been going through the exact same thing! It's annoying, just move on from hoping there's a port with more stuff. Next game will be fully new. End of.

I'd rather have Sakurai work on a new Season Pass than a Smash Sequel. Just like Mario Kart the series pretty much reached a high point that is rather hard to achieve a second time around. I also believe Nintendo should focus more on remaking GameCube classics, as they did with Metroid Prime, with classics such as F-Zero GX. Upgraded visuals, more tracks and/or characters is all these games need.

Does Anyone Know Why Dixie Kong Never Made It To Smash?

Adding even more characters sounds like a nightmare for power balancing though.

Only if they bring in Marvel vs. DBZ fighters 😉

I find it absolutely mind blowing that Isaac from Golden Sun has never been on the roster. I always wanted Geno as well, but Golden Sun is truly a gem from dare I say a lost age.

Would’ve kept the game alive so the community wouldn’t be in the horrible state it’s in

Give another wave but with less Sword characters. There are SO many sword based characters...

There’s definitely a huge amount of potential now with Microsoft acquiring Activision. Crash, Spyro, Overwatch, Diablo, and Halo could fill 2 waves of DLC alone. Plus Ubisoft is currently reeling right now, so maybe we could see Nintendo make an acquisition of their own. Rayman as a first party Nintendo character always just felt right

For me, by no means. For Sakurai, quite possibly.

@IceClimbersMain I agree with you. Super Smash Brothers Ultimate is too ‘complete’ to leave behind on the platform. They probably have an agreement with the companies that the characters are allowed to be in SSBU, and they could stretch that probably if it gets a ‘definitive edition’ release on the next platform with extra dlc afterwards.

Paper mario with the abilities of thousand year door would be amazing! Or characters like captain toad, waluigi, tingle And I’d love to see other franchises like Monster Hunter, Professor Layton or Resident Evil get represented as a character too.

Honestly, I have that with a lot of Switch games. That feeling of ‘where does Nintendo go from here?’ Since a lot of their games have been stellar. Zelda, 3D Mario, Splatoon, Animal Crossing, 2D Metroid, Mario Kart, and now Pikmin 4 apparently. Where to go from here?

I'm more than happy with the MK8DX Booster Pass which kinda replaced the SSBU DLCs, but that's simply because I like MK8DX more than SSBU

If they want to pull a Mario Kart 8 and release Super Smash Bros. Ultimate: Ultimate Edition next generation with a couple more waves of DLC, I'm all for it.

Even the first 2 waves were too much. The game would be way more balanced and fun to play online without any of the DLC characters but I digress, Nintendo doesn't care about the competitive scene.

Another wave of DLC would mean more balance patches, so I'd love to see it.

Terry Bogard and Kazuya Mishima are fighting games' characters, yes... But! There were no anime fighting games' characters! No Ragna The Bloodedge, no Sol Badguy, no Hikaru Otagi... Meh. Though, they will sound terrible with English voice-overs. And there's NO DUAL AUDIO OPTION SUPPORT in the game! That sucks! It is the main reason why I will never play a SSB. game.

After all of the meltdowns over certain characters getting in over others, the neverending speculation videos, and the fact that it would cost more to buy all of the dlc fighters than the base game, I hope that this game never sees anymore new characters added.

Smash needs a ten year break, then bring it back refreshed with a new line up.

My main issue with Ultimate's DLC is that every character essentially boils down to 3 categories: coming from an RPG series with an anime aesthetic, a fighting game series, or a Microsoft owned IP. And while I genuinely enjoy a lot of the DLC characters and think they did a good job overall, I'd definitely have welcomed another round of DLC that branched out further. There are still some pretty glaring omissions from the first party roster, like Dixie Kong (originally planned for Brawl!) and Bandana Dee, and still many more third party series, Japanese and Western, that could've been really cool additions. I really have to question the decision to relegate series like Resident Evil and Assassin's Creed to Spirits or Mii costumes while far more niche characters made it to the actual roster (as much as I love playing as Terry).

always up for more characters but ive made peace knowing theyre done with this game (unless they wanna pull a mk8d with a remaster)

if anything id want them to bring back some old modes. break the targets, master orders, smash run and tour (needs to be revamped but mario party x smash bros is such a cool idea)

I loved all the hype and reveals but I played Ultimate less than any other Smash. It's just too much. Too much music, too many stages, too many characters, World of Light is bloated to the max. As a single player mostly it would give me decision fatigue every time I went to play. I just want a concise roster again with unlockables that actually felt worth something rather than being constantly badgered with challenger approaching in the early hours. I want a single player campaign that has some fun depth but isn't a flimsy way to string together a million matches and also isn't a ridiculously bloated experience.

Weird to say Melee is my favorite still when I don't care about most anything that the hardcore players love it for. 3DS is a close second because Smash Run was amazing and I can't believe that didn't get brought to Ultimate.

I'm also hoping "Ultimate gets more Ultimate on the Switch 2" and adds these missing musts:
Waluigi
Crash Bandicoot
Phoenix Wright
Throw in Professor Layton and/or Paper Mario & Luigi and you would have a perfect 7x13 character select rectangle grid. My OCD hates seeing that incomplete 7th row at the bottom...

As a Bandana Waddle Dee fan...no, a third wave wouldn't have been too much. Or a fourth. Or a...yeah, you probably get what I'm saying. And I imagine many others probably feel the same way about different characters. I'm absolutely really grateful for what we got, but seeing my dream fighter enter Smash is something I've yet to see, and it just never felt complete without that. But I'm still happy some other fans got their (much more impossible) dream fighters like Banjo and Sora.

But...Geno? Really?

King Arthur from Ghosts and Goblins, please (he could lose his armor after 100%)

If they want to add Ryza or Impa, I’d be all for it.

I would be more likely to buy a third pass if it was mostly first party characters. Smash is a NINTENDO game, first and foremost.

And I want to see Geno in Smash, fight me

I bought both passes and was overall pretty underwhelmed with what we got. I'd hoped for a slate of characters that continued the SSB traditions of honoring Nintendo/gaming history and the chaos of having so many incongruous graphic and play styles being thrown at each other. Looking back at the full list in this article, less than half are what I would call inspired historical choices (Hero, Banjo, Steve, Sephiroph, Sora). Also, 2/3 of the DLC fighters are fairly normal-proportioned humans who with tweaks could feasibly fit into any other fighting game.

There are still characters out there I believe belong in Smash. Even though he'd be another human with a sword, Ryu from Ninja Gaiden should be in there to round out the trifecta of 3rd party NES-era platformers along with Mega Man and Simon. Including Waluigi would appease the fans and further legitimize a character who's largely been on the fringes for the last 25 years. Dixie Kong, Captain Toad, Crash Bandicoot, Phoenix Wright, Master Higgins, Samurai Goroh, the Star Tropics kid... there's a ton of potential fighters out there.

I'd be interested in a third wave, would probably buy it regardless of quality because my OCD would torment me for knowing there's a fillable hole in my roster. But I'd seriously hope Nintendo/Sakurai would approach such an expansion with a true "all killer, no filler" mindset.

Also they should bring back Poke Floats.

Knowing that Smash would take up a lot of time in the next general Direct was rather disappointing after awhile like when E3 2021 started with a long segment for Kazuya but for the most part I do miss the addition of more content for Smash. Also just like Mario Kart, the only way is down regarding a new entry so adding more to the current game would be better than a new game.

Though what I'd like more than a Fighters Pass 3 would be the remaining past stages brought back to make it not just "Everyone is Here" but also "Everywhere is here". I particularly miss 3DS Rainbow Road, Melee Mute City and the DK stages.

A bigger roster doesn't improve the game and it wouldn't renew my interest. This is still my least favorite Smash Bros game (so many characters and very lackluster content imo) so I would rather take a new game over adding new characters to Ultimate.

@Vortexeo what made ya like 4 better?

Yes. But only because Yoko Taro said he would love to see 2B in Smash. And I agree.

Nah, I'm glad it stopped, the Smash fanbase was getting insane.

And honestly, the game would need more than a third Pass to be even better.

@Dragnoran I enjoyed how online actually split up competitive and casual players. Whenever I wanted to play a bit more competitively I could choose for glory, and if I wanted to play casually I could choose for fun.

In ultimate I either have to rely on either preferred rules (which doesn't always give you your preferred ruleset) or arenas. On top of that I actually used to play the Smash Tour mode all the time with my siblings. It was like a smash bros version of Mario Party which we absolutely loved lol.

For my favorites, I'd have to say Terry for overall content (so much music and the best stage) and Banjo & Kazooie for personal bias.

Honestly a third would have been perfect, for me at least.

Fighting games usually only have three at the most, and if we were to get a third after sora, I honestly think I would had been completely set, personally.

@somnambulance in my dreams I’m afraid ):

I think a third wave would be overkill. Honestly, I love this game a ton but the cast is a bit TOO big at this point. There ARE characters you could add but everything feels a bit bloated right now...

My personal favorite DLC character was Terry Bogard by a landslide, but it was also nice to see Pyra/Mythra since they're so easy on the eyes.

I don't see why Smash Ultimate needed to 'end'. It could be the right kind of live service game that's worth buying for its own sake and keep adding more characters. I feel kind of the same about Mario Kart (although I personally don't play it anymore). Certain games just kind of master the mechanics and can just keep going with more characters/tracks/levels/etc.

Kind of unrelated but not: I recently read a post about Path of Exile 2 coming out (a free-to-play ARPG like Diablo) and the developers decided that the sequel would exist concurrently alongside the original game because there was no reason for the old game to stop existing. I know game devs have limited resources and all, but I bring this up to say Mario Kart and Smash could go on and be supported even if new games are added to the series. That would be the greatest, I think.

We need at least two more waves!!!! And real Doom Guy, also more characters from 1st party IP’s like Astral Chain. Also Viewtiful Joe would be great, Leon Kennedy summoning Zombies, or Raziel from Soul Reaver, Tony Hawk or Alucard…. There are too many options so please give us more! Plus Smash needs to compete with the new Tekken and Street Fighter so more DLC is still cheaper than making a new game! Plus they should also release a physical version with all DLC!

I would love to see:

1) Knuckles
2) Dante from the Devil May Cry Series
3) New Funky Mode

Fighters Pass 3 (and more) would have been great, but I'm glad Smash Ultimate ended when it did (my wallet is too!). I do hope this gives Sakurai a chance to work on other projects and it's been really fun watching his YouTube videos. I did feel that Smash could have benefitted from other means of DLC, like more echo fighters, character skins, more mii costumes, more spirits, and other game modes. For example, I think it would have been great to get some sort of Touhou representation in Smash, but it would have best been through Spirits or a Mii costume or a music track instead of a fighter. The game could have easily continued with new content packs and weekly spirit challenges well into the future as new games released, and it was sad to see the cutoff for that was with Sora's inclusion & Metroid Dread spirits. But it's hard to complain with the package we got, and I'm extremely grateful for getting my most requested character in the game (Pyra & Mythra).

JoJo, Fashion girl from Style savvy, Kid Cobra, Ryza, Phoenix Wright, Layton, more Pokémon, more blades.

The DLC characters make the og characters a bit out dated. Its their design

Wave 3 DLC:
Master Chief
Shrek
Goku
Fortnite
Mike Jones & Navcom
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there's never too much smash in my book. Though ever since the game came out this February the only newcomer ive realllllly wanted to see is chai from hifi rush. Imagine if by attacking to the beat of whatever song is playing in the background did extra damage! its unrealistic and a pain in the ass for the devs, but itd just be so cool.

@Fizza he 100% deserves it hed better be there

I don't like dlc.

Would love a wave 3! (and more!)
Loved the game before DLC, love the game even more with DLC, and there are still many great characters that could be added! Ayumi Tachibana (now that Famicom Tantei is out in English) Henry from Codename STEAM, just drop the cloth breaking and give her a black hole under her shirt like other female characters in Smash) Hershel Layton from Professor Layton, Reimu from Touhou, there are plenty of characters to pick from! Would love to see what moveset they would give someone from Idolmaster.

It wouldn't have been too much, and I definitely would be on board, but I can respect them ending it when they did. Sakurai and the team definitely needed the break.

@Desrever Would be fun if they added Goku from Yuyuki instead of the manga character by the same name

Ending the DLC for this game was a mistake both from a content perspective and from a business perspective.
At this point, unless they somehow manage to port SSBU, they are already way past the point of having the next game surpass this game's roster so they may as well throw that reason to the wayside.
It also doesn't help that there's still plenty of viable picks for them to use. There was no Pokemon from gen 8, Monster Hunter, Dante, Geno, Rayman, Isaac, Waluigi, Bandana Waddle Dee, Dixie Kong, Lara Croft, and so on.
Say what you want about the quality of the courses but at least they had the right idea with Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, that game has sold so well and I've no doubt that was 1 of the main factors to why they decided to bring DLC to it. Smash Bros, while hasn't sold as well as that game, has still sold over 30 million copies which is absolutely insane and yet they are just....sitting on it. It's even worse when you realize it ended when the Nintendo Switch still had plenty of life left in it, they could have made so much money with the time between then and now but...nope.

And I know some may say "But 3 waves is too much" but let me tell you 3 waves is nothing by todays standards. Street Fighter V, a game that sold less than half of what SSBU did, got 5 SEASONS of DLC and those games have way more put into 1 character than a single Smash Bros character does.
The same example can be used for Tekken 7 and Dragonball FighterZ as those games also got plenty of DLC despite not selling nowhere near as well.
It also helps that Smash Bros characters typically already have a movepool to work with as all the characters aren't new but are rather pulled from already existing IP's. Meanwhile games like Street Fighter and Tekken have brand new characters that need to be made from scratch.

So no, absolutely not would it have been "too much", if anything they did too little with DLC.

The obvious choice for a new dlc character is the racket in pong. I'd love to see this vertical bar in HD. The pieces from Tetris would also be a good choice.

I don't mean to be controversial here... but the game has plenty of characters already. Arguably a few too many in fact.

What I would have liked is less of the Fire Emblem and Xenoblade characters, and more of the first party and strong brand characters.

Everyone is here is correct in the sense of "everyone" hence we're scraping the barrel with another Fire Emblem person joining... but actually, it couldn't be farther from the truth in terms of the long list of "look at who we could have had..."

So no. Absolutely not a third wave. A better and stronger first and second wave was all I wanted.

@Rhaoulos Pong (or something identical) is an assist trophy, so might already be able to see it in HD

Nobody would have actually been upset if a third fighter pass had happened. Well. Maybe Sakurai would have been.

@JJtheTexan I initially loved this idea! The only downside is that they may nerf/beef up some aspects of the game at any random time. For example, aim assist on Fortnite.

@nocdaes exactly how I feel! I have always said that ultimate has too many characters and too many FF characters. Less is more.

One of the on-going issues with SSBU is that the efforts to making it representative of numerous game franchises have been moderate at best. None of the 1st party franchises have been updated to include their latest incarnations, balancing issues are a major problem with the lack of attention to late DLC, and amiibo is gonna take time to release, so they should've at least waited until those came out before calling it quits.

I've been wanting Isaac for over two decades now. A perfect fit for Smash that keeps on getting overlooked (along with the Golden Sun franchise). With that said, the number of characters and everything else added with the DLC was a lot and the timeframe was extended a long time. So I wasn't disappointed that the DLC ended where it did.

honestly if sakura is having trouble making a new smash bros just keep updating the ultimate one by adding more characters,stages,items,soundtracks and new modes.

Most of who I wanted is there already, I got King K. Rool, Ridley, Dark Samus, Daisy, not-Gohan I mean Erdrick, and even Banjo-Kazooie made it in.

Some others I wanted got them in "Smash for" like Pac-Man, Little Mac, Ryu or Rosalina. Mega Man in Smash is what gave me my first taste of his series, which eventually led me to play The Wily Wars and is what made me a fan of the classic Mega Man series. I was hoping Castlevania did the same in Ultimate, but it didn't.

Only ones I'm missing are Lip, Isaac, Rayman and Bomberman, though the latter is there as an Assist Trophy.

What I actually want them to do is to bring back the "Others" songs to the stages that originally had music from that category. Like the final boss music from The Wonderful 101 in Mario Galaxy, the Tetris music in Luigi's Mansion, Tomorrow's Passion (pretty much Little Mac's theme) from Captain Rainbow in Boxing Ring or Tunnel Scene (X) in Lylat Cruise.

Personally I'm satisfied. I got Daisy, Byleth, Kazuya, and Pyra/Mythra so I don't really have much room to want anything else. My favorite game characters are already here.

Everybody forgets that the core of Smash are the characters fighting other characters. So, no…. A smaller roster isn’t the way to go.

That’s why Ultimate felt like, well, the ultimate game, because before it we got characters taken out and it’s sucked … prompting the “Everyone is here” that made Ultimate so special

Nobody wants their favorite and main character taken out of the next game… duh

Also, no Goku or anime abominations. Smash is a celebration of all things gaming. Stop with the ridiculous requests

Well, we are still missing Crash and Spyro so I don't see why not.
Edit: Uhhh I saw someone mentioned Rayman and Bomberman. Those are good ones too!
Edit 2: Ryza, Phoenix Wright, Layton, Dante, Shantae, Master Chief, Isaac, Geno, Mallow, Hollow Knight and Shovel Knight

We definitely didn’t NEED one, but I would have loved a third wave of characters. I still play Smash on a pretty regular basis, so more support is always great.

It could be cool if there was more new stages and new musics.

I would have liked the old modes like break the targets to come back. I get to an extent they were filler and this game is more focused on fighting but if sandbag keeps coming back….

I cant think of any new characters I would want except perhaps Alear.

I won't begrudge anyone who loves Smash all the content this game was given. But for me, the tragedy on Switch was the game Arms. Such a wonderful idea but woefully underdeveloped. I would have like to see some of this effort given to adding more meat to that game.

If anyone of these six characters will be in the fighter pass, I would buy a third fighter pass:

1. Waluigi
2. Dixie Kong
3. Conker
4. Rayman
5. Shantae
6. Cuphead
6.

@RubyCarbuncle I would be happy to talk it out in a polite manner but calling me selfish and how my opinion is just a "ridiculous statement" is abit uncalled for, don't you think?

No. I think Sora was the perfect ending, but hey, I'd take 6 more. I'd like
1. The protagonist from Astral Chain
2. Shantae
3. Rayman
4. Dante (Featuring Dante from Devil May Cry)
5. Possibly another Kingdom Hearts Character? Riku and Roxas come to mind. Idk im a fanboy for KH
6. Waluigi. It'd be the perfect ending.
Also, replace Min Min with literally anyone else she sucks as a character and wasted a spot on the roster lol

@nocdaes Hold up...We technically only have 1 and a Half of Xenoblade characters, how do we have too many?

Of course. Minecraft keeps getting updates despite having been around forever. Why not Smash Ultimate? If the next Smash game isn’t out for a while (so far, they’ve been strictly one per console), they could go back to making DLC just like they did with Mario Kart 8 (with a Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Ultimate package that includes everything further down the line). And yes, I’d want more first-party characters this time.

I mean, I won’t say no to even more characters. Personally I want more content in the form of stages, modes, and even items. Character customization making a comeback would be pretty cool too, even if it was pretty busted.

@Paulo we've already got our third party 80s hard-as-nails platformer arcade Christian projectile-based demon slaying fighter, two of them in fact but I would love a third. Probably the one character where an install Final Smash actually makes sense with Golden Armor.

Who I'd personally like to see:

Rayman
Shantae
Goomba
Crash
Master Chief
Goku
Robotnik/Eggman

I would say it would have been too much for one reason…

Sakuri needed the break.

I was all in for buying the first 2 waves when the game wasn't even out yet since I loved 4, but now that I've played it there's just no amount of characters they could add that would make me want to play it. Adding extra characters doesn't fix the problems with the game, so I never even bothered with the new characters even though I paid for them.

Yes, it would have been too much, but only because it felt like Nintendo was shoving DLC reveals in nearly every Direct as the passes were going on. I had fatigue after Banjo, got excited again for Min Min and then fatigue. I didn't play as Sora until months after his release, and Sora was the finale for Ultimate.

I imagine the calls for Geno would have intensified (and made more sense) now that there's a Super Mario RPG remake. Among others, I'd also loved to have seen a Resident Evil character - probably Leon since RE4 was such an iconic game and originally a Nintendo exclusive, but Chris or Jill would have been cool too.

They left money on the table by not periodically releasing DLC until the end. It didn't have to be frequent, but if every six months I had another reason to log on to Smash, I'd pay for that.

I’m perfectly fine with my main characters: Pyra/Mythra and Joker.

But I do miss the reveal trailers not just for the character but I thought they were pretty cool and I enjoy watching Ragged Knowledge’s reaction compilations on YouTube.

I would have been fine with more DLC fighters, but I also think 3 years of DLC support was more than enough for Ultimate. I look forward to the next Smash on new hardware, whenever that may be.

My wishlist for a Fighter's Pass 3:

1. Crash Bandicoot
2. Rayman
3. Spyro
4. Waluigi
5. Hades (Kid Icarus)

It's always been my dream but I would love a Pokémon only smash. Doesn't have to be as balanced because Pokémon aren't anyway.
Would be a cool new take after the amount of classic game content in ultimate.

They could have done so (Soo) much better without 7 (or god knows how many) fire emblem characters, im not counting on it but if indeed this ends up being a switch 2 game, they better choose wisely

I would not have been against another wave of DLC. But for the characters that I wanted, there would have been no point in it, as they were already in the game as Assist Trophies. I particularly wanted Midna from Twilight Princess and Krystal from Star Fox (the latter, especially, since we could use a proper staff fighter).

But, if precedent holds, it could very well be that in the next Super Smash Bros. game, one or both of them could be playable. After all, Little Mac, Dark Samus, and Isabelle were both Assist Trophies in previous games (Little Mac in Brawl, and Dark Samus and Isabelle in SSB4) before becoming playable.

And for those who don't remember, Charizard was a Pokémon that you could summon from a Pokéball in Melee before he became playable in Brawl and beyond.

So by that logic, maybe by the next game, they will become playable, likely as unlockable characters or even DLC. But I would love to see other characters from other games make their way in, such as Shantae, Spyro, the Last Dragonborn, or even Master Chief.

If there are 7 rounds of Smash Bros. Ultimate's 3rd Wave I would DEFINITELY Recommend Snivy (Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Series) in 1st round, Shadow The Hedgehog (Shadow The Hedgehog (Self Proclaimed Video Game Title)) in 2nd, Rayman (Rayman Series) in 3rd, Lana (Hyrule Warriors Series) in 4th, Riku (Kingdom Hearts Series) in 5th, Elfilin (Kirby & The Forgotten Land) in 6th & Braixen (Pokkén Tournament) in the last round of Smash Bros. Ultimate's 3rd Wave!!!

Waluigi, Otachi and Geno. Actually, just give me Geno.

they should have focused on quality rather than quantity.

Kamek, Dixie Kong, or Skull Kid is worth ten of Byleth or Joker.

@MrCob23 I 100% agree! I have been saying Isaac and Felix should be in Smash since the GBA games first came out.

@Matl Nothing wrong with people wanting everyone back again (even if its sadly unlikely) and a port would be the best way to ensure it happens. People are free to hope. Either way, people are going to speculate who will get in or not. People have done so long before Ultimate. Its not going to stop just because the next one is an even better version of Ultimate.

Its not the end of the possibility until the next game is announced.

Getting everyone back would clearly be the ideal situation, that way everyone would get to keep their favorite characters.

The speculation is fun but I didn't even buy the second wave.

I'd much sooner Sakurai worked on a Kid Icarus sequel or something new for him.

I also feel the next game needs to be more a fundamental reboot as there is no way I can see them building on Ultimate.

@IceClimbersMain wait… this is a hard guess… but are we talking about Kid Icarus?

I mean they've gotta leave some characters for the next game right?
However, I think there's definitely a couple characters that feel like they're missing at this point, namely Crash, Spyro, Rayman, Lara Croft, Master Chief, etc

Pyra/Mythra are my favorite, but I love them all. I don’t really care about Terry and Yakuza just because I hate the genre their from, but their pretty cool.

I really wish Professor Layton, Phoenix Wright, and maybe Hollow Knight made it in. A third pack would’ve been nice for new characters like Noah/Mio, Alear—I quite like FE sword fighters, thanks—and Oatchi.

I’d love it if Smash would never include Geno, outside of a mii-fighter costume.

@Mrkittyhead Yakuza isn't in Smash...what you on about?

I only wanted Sub-Zero and Scorpion in Wave 2, so that all the main fighting franchises would have been represented in Smash. I don't think we'll ever see a Wave 3. But, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is still getting DLC after a long time since being released, so, thinking of a Wave 3 is not that crazy.

@AJWolfTill Sakurai said back in 2018, that he already has the idea to reinvent the series. So, the next game will most likely follow that direction.

I'd have been in for a third pass. Not necessarily because of characters, but also because of further active development of the core game (balance changes and bugfixes). Steve is far too overtuned for the game.

@Davzilla isnt that just Pokkén Tournament?

Nah, by the end of wave 2 they had already turned almost every other beloved character into a mii costume.

The character additions were okay.
However, I remember I wanted more stages and music, not necessarily more characters.
There was a certain amount of power creep with the DLC characters.
Long story short, I wouldn't mind extra characters. But I rather have 6 characters in a short period of time. and then maybe a year of downtime before the next 6 characters (or any other additions).

If smash ultimate got a 3rd fighters pass now, it would be great, as there are still plenty of characters people would want in smash, but it could also be bad as many competitive players have gotten used to the weird and sometimes broken mechanics of the dlc fighters. With 5 more characters their mechanics could make the competitive smash community mad.

I was hoping they would release a 3rd DLC pack that wouldn’t have been fighters but an actual proper Story Mode that could have possibly introduced 1 or 2 new characters who would have an integral part in the narrative like a new villain or something that could have been along the lines of a Marvels Battleworld Arc only you don’t know who the actual Big Bad is until it’s time to fight them & then unlock them after winning. Hey I suppose I guy could dream. I don’t think that would be as difficult to make as 5 or 6 more fighters who have to be balanced into the game. It is definitely a way Nintendo could make more money.

What's The Worst SSB Game?

@somnambulance I'd still like another subspace at some point

I don’t think it would ever have been enough. Smash ultimate is one of my favorite games of all time so more characters and stages are more than welcome. Most of the dlc characters I would’ve replaced with other characters but I will say each one was very well done and the stages and music was all welcome for me. I would’ve taken whatever Sakurai would’ve dished out for us. I guess if I could pick a third wave it would be excitebike, captain toad, waluigi, pig ganon, paper Mario.

To be honest, if this game has Double Dragon or Kunio even as costumes for the Brawler Mii…..I would have deemed this version of Super Smash Bros. as the ultimate one.

I'm happy with the game as it is but I'm under no illusions about us getting a new Smash any time in the next few years so a new pass would certainly help soften the blow and finally give me that excuse to dive back into the game.

Oh and maybe Kazuya and Steve could finally get patched.

My exitement over Smash DLC diminished to basic interest with subsequent waves. We now have a crazy numbers of fighters.

Having said that, I haven't played the game in many, many months so a new wave would re-enliven my interest in Smash. We have reached a kind of peak with it it seems and it's difficult to see whrte they go with the game next for the next iteration. Like others have said, one cannot see another Smash for a long time, so another wave would be welcome.

(OH AND Waluigi and Master Chief please, zank you)

I just look forward to the next game at this point. I'm glad so many characters made it, but the roster is just so bloated. I'd like to see it go down to a guaranteed few 1st/2ndparty characters, along with some new 1st/2nd party characters. I'm take it or leave it with 3rd party characters, but new ones would be ok, as long as it's not too many (like a couple of special guests). Hopefully that will streamline the gameplay and mechanics so it won't need to much rebalancing. But I'm not Sakurai or Nintendo, so that's that.

It's about time for Mike Jones... That's all I know.

Pyra/Mythra is my all-around favorite character in the game, and Min Min is easily in my top 10. Every other DLC character for me rates somewhere between "who?" and "I have absolutely no interest in the game that character is from". Okay, fine, Piranha Plant is pretty cool. At any rate, I bought the game and all the DLC and barely played it. Then something like a year later my son started playing the game and I finally got hooked and completed it 100% (as in, there's basically nothing left to do because I got every single spirit to level 99, among other ridiculous feats). But the boy still wants to play it regularly, so yeah... if there were more DLC released I would absolutely buy it, even though there's probably like a 1% chance I'd have any interest in the characters included.

@acNewUpdates no, pokken was more like a standard 2d fighter (Pokémon x tekken)
Wasn't my cup of tea but it was alright. I'd like a platform brawler for Pokémon like smash

It would have been cool to have Rayman, but if he didn't get in in a third fighter's pass, that might just kind of make it more disappointing.

Even though I voted that Sora was the perfect capper on the DLC and I still for the most part think a third wave would have tipped things way too far over onto the side of needless bloat I'll admit this thread has softened my stance towards a potential Smash sequel thanks to everyone's awesome suggestions. I think Shantae is probably a lock should that happen given WayForward's cosying up to Nintendo in recent years, as is Rayman (though he absolutely remains the world's dullest mascot in my estimation). Surprised to see all the Oatchi love, but I think he'd make a fine second representation for Pikmin as well.

@NCChris my bad; Kazuya😅 Shows how familiar I am with both of those games

@Mrkittyhead Oh! Ok, fair enough