I'm not interested, but hopefully they're saving the good Animal Crossing for NX. I'm a little disappointed in a few series this gen, like Animal Crossing, 3D mario, and Zelda. But on the whole, Wii U has still been very worthwhile- so oh well, guess I'll be using either the DS, Gamecube, or Wii Animal Crossing until then.
Now they finally get their act together. If this sort of marketing had been around at launch, Wii U would be in a much better state. Also, two of the games it's showing off are part of it's new bundle, the one mentioned in the Nintendo Direct. So this may be a push to get those bundles sold. And that bundle is a great deal, seems I bought mine a few weeks early.
That's my exact point! I've been saying this entire time that VR will be big- but after a while, not primarily for gaming. I've been saying this whole time it will be it's own entertainment thing- one which has a side feature of gaming, but not really a system for games.
It's separate from gaming. That's my point. I must have said it clumsily, I apologize for wasting your time if so. I'm talking about the gaming medium. It will be a new medium.
I don't think it's likely to be a big new change, though, for gaming. NX might have it. That'd be freaking awesome. I'd buy it. But VR is unlikely to be anything much for gaming after a while. Awesome, unique experiences, yes. Commercially successful? In gaming, probably not after the first few years.
Don't know where you got that from. Never used VR in my life. I don't see it's limitations. It's got hundreds upon hundreds of uses. But humans are fickle beings- commercially, it can only succeed until we move on to the next "game changer"
But I can see many uses for it. Attach gloves that tense up when they touch where polygons should be. The uses there would be endless. Even without, the uses are massive. There are many things that could be done that would be really, really awesome. In gaming, however, I don't see it as commercially successful after the first few years. For gamers, it will be great, actually unique experiences unlike the utter disappointments that are the Xbox One and PS4, but for the companies themselves, VR is probably not a long term thing.
You still misunderstand me. VR is great. It will provide great experiences. It will be unique and cool. However, people have a habit of getting on with life very quickly after something, regardless of how innovative. That's what killed motion controls. That's what killed Atari. Nothing technology wise can last forever.
Will we get unique and cool VR experiences? Probably, Will it have many uses? Yes. But will it be commercially successful for gaming in particular after a few years? Probably not.
VR is going to be big. VR gaming is going to be big, But only the first one has much long term potential.
Splatoon did blow my mind- an original shooter? Impossible. Everything else this gen has sucked. A few Wii U games have been great, but aside from that, everything has sucked. No real improvement on last gen, which in itself felt like a somewhat minor improvement. Nothing this gen has blown me away tech wise. Splatoon's the closest it got- an innovative shooter, and an online shooter that I like, both previously not achieved.
I'd just be scared. I wouldn't have my mind blown. That's just a differently positioned screen. It's all digital images. I could very easily understand how it was working, So no, that would not blow my mind. VR is certainly capable of it, but that's not blowing my mind in any way, shape, or form. Software blows my mind, not hardware.
They weren't perfect first time (NES) They are pretty much dead now (Kinect, heck even the Wii sold poorly after the initial hype died down.) Third chances in business are exceedingly rare.
I'm sorry. I just can't see video games being more than a minor feature of VR after the first few VR consoles.
One main thing though- I can see VR in a few generations. If it lasts, which isn't unlikely, it will have games- but it will be a very minor feature, with the bulk of features being about virtual tourism, virtual social media, and an entertainment centre where movies, eBooks, videogames and the like exist. But Video games is unlikely to be more than a sub-genre by that point.
@Kirk The best selling game of all time still wasn't enough to make motion controls last. If that's not enough, VR's going to need a lot to stick around. And I am convinced- it will be great, for a time. I just don't see it as a long term thing. Video games were different, those were brand new and exciting (and they were officially dead anyway for a year or so before Super Mario Bros was released.) I can see it might work- but it would require multiple games that are at the scale of Wii Sports. Seeing how utterly disappointing this gen has been thus far, I don't think any developer aside from Nintendo who can provide those sorts of games, and they're unlikely to be very interested, as they already tried VR, and it failed.
I can see it working- it would be cool if it worked- but I don't see it as more than a very remote chance, since the best selling game of all time wasn't enough for the previous innovation. Perhaps it will last for a while, I wouldn't complain if so, but in terms of likelihood..... I find it too improbable that it will be a feature used very much for gaming.
The current gen game that blew my mind? Splatoon. Any other game I've played this gen was worse than Pong. But Splatoon is awesome. VR will be a massive thing, I agree on that, just not that it's going to change gaming much.
@Kirk I've even got plans for a Virtual reality console. It's not very focused on first person games, as you say, but I know what I'm talking about with VR.
So no, I do not think it's limited to first person experiences. However, for people to maintain interest in it, each console must innovate VR. And Playstation and Xbox haven't done anything innovative for themselves in a long, long time. I just can't see this being more than a fad.
True, at this point only Nintendo really makes dedicated games consoles any more. And I don't deny that there's some good stuff that can be done with it. However, after a while, people will get used to it, and move on to the next thing.
The businesses only care about sales. So if VR fails commercially, they won't make more. Motion controls have been pretty much ignored of late, so it looks like it's dying out. I hope, for the sake of my console idea, I can be there in time for when VR is popular. But I don't think it will be.
@Kirk I'm sure it won't flop immediately. But I doubt very much it will stay for any real length of time. Entertainment wise, yes, it's likely to be a hit, but a dedicated game console....... no. It can be a massive part of entertainment, but it's really not very useful for gaming. At first, getting the true first person experience will be exciting, but humans being humans, they'll get over it. The only long term purposes would be for those who want to travel, but without quite so much of the expense- a one off payment for a VR system being much cheaper than most vacations away from home. There, it will be useful. Cinemas are also threatened by it. But the links between it and gaming are far weaker than you'd think. And just because they can be done well does not mean they will be. I'm sorry, but I can't convince myself that this will do any better than motion controls. Great at first, but after a year or two I think it will fizz out and stop being as cool.
Ah, back in the days of innovation. Motion control almost did it, but it turned out to be a fad. Wii U is certainly innovative- but not very popular, so not one that will be continued. In fact, for long term innovation, It was most recently achieved back in the days of the N64, with proper 3D. But the real innovations were the NES and SNES. If they made something like that again, that would be so freaking awesome. Then again, Wii U is my favourite console thus far.
It would be nice if it was a battle to take out bosses in game. But hey, still definitely game of the gen for me, and once Wii U online starts working, it has a decent shot of best game ever, in my eyes at least.
I mean, Super Mario Maker looks great, I've played it and it's by far the most intuitive level designer to date....... but saying Super Mario Galaxy 2 was AVERAGE Nintendo? That was my favourite game of all time. I've played Super Mario Maker at a friend's house, and it truly is great fun. But does it make SMG 2 look average?
Nah, but great review, I'm just overreacting. People have a tendency to do that over their favourite game of all time being called average. But I will definitely get Super Mario Maker once I can (Saving up for a Wii U, I can afford it November 22nd.)
Wow. PS4 is winning in sales because of specs, and Xbox one is beating Wii U because of brand. (Primarily)
FREAKING BRAND! That's pathetic. Even more pathetic than buying a console for specs, especially in this generation when all the consoles have pretty much evened out graphics wise....
Here's what is probably the actual reasons for both PS4 and Xbox One-
1. You can shoot guns. 2. You can kill people 3. Did I mention you can shoot guns? 4. To not have fun! (seriously, it's pathetic that Wii U is the only console which has "fun" as the main reason to purchase it, and that the PS4, the only one without it even in the top 5 is outselling both the other consoles.) 5. Generic game-78th edition
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Re: Parent Trap: Animal Crossing: amiibo Festival Goes Where Other Wii U Games Don't
I'm not interested, but hopefully they're saving the good Animal Crossing for NX.
I'm a little disappointed in a few series this gen, like Animal Crossing, 3D mario, and Zelda. But on the whole, Wii U has still been very worthwhile- so oh well, guess I'll be using either the DS, Gamecube, or Wii Animal Crossing until then.
Re: Video: Nintendo Makes a Holiday Pitch for Wii U 'Magical Nights'
Now they finally get their act together. If this sort of marketing had been around at launch, Wii U would be in a much better state.
Also, two of the games it's showing off are part of it's new bundle, the one mentioned in the Nintendo Direct. So this may be a push to get those bundles sold. And that bundle is a great deal, seems I bought mine a few weeks early.
Re: Book Review: Before Mario
True that.
I'm just saying I hope it improves rapidly enough to gain enough momentum to survive as it's own medium.
Re: Book Review: Before Mario
Fair enough. I can't convince you, and you can't convince me.
No matter what the case, VR is headed our way. Let's hope it's done well!
Re: Book Review: Before Mario
That's my exact point! I've been saying this entire time that VR will be big- but after a while, not primarily for gaming. I've been saying this whole time it will be it's own entertainment thing- one which has a side feature of gaming, but not really a system for games.
It's separate from gaming. That's my point. I must have said it clumsily, I apologize for wasting your time if so. I'm talking about the gaming medium. It will be a new medium.
I don't think it's likely to be a big new change, though, for gaming. NX might have it. That'd be freaking awesome. I'd buy it. But VR is unlikely to be anything much for gaming after a while. Awesome, unique experiences, yes. Commercially successful? In gaming, probably not after the first few years.
Re: Book Review: Before Mario
Don't know where you got that from. Never used VR in my life.
I don't see it's limitations. It's got hundreds upon hundreds of uses. But humans are fickle beings- commercially, it can only succeed until we move on to the next "game changer"
But I can see many uses for it. Attach gloves that tense up when they touch where polygons should be. The uses there would be endless. Even without, the uses are massive. There are many things that could be done that would be really, really awesome. In gaming, however, I don't see it as commercially successful after the first few years. For gamers, it will be great, actually unique experiences unlike the utter disappointments that are the Xbox One and PS4, but for the companies themselves, VR is probably not a long term thing.
Re: Book Review: Before Mario
You still misunderstand me.
VR is great. It will provide great experiences. It will be unique and cool.
However, people have a habit of getting on with life very quickly after something, regardless of how innovative. That's what killed motion controls. That's what killed Atari. Nothing technology wise can last forever.
Will we get unique and cool VR experiences? Probably,
Will it have many uses? Yes.
But will it be commercially successful for gaming in particular after a few years? Probably not.
VR is going to be big.
VR gaming is going to be big,
But only the first one has much long term potential.
Re: Book Review: Before Mario
Splatoon did blow my mind- an original shooter? Impossible.
Everything else this gen has sucked. A few Wii U games have been great, but aside from that, everything has sucked. No real improvement on last gen, which in itself felt like a somewhat minor improvement. Nothing this gen has blown me away tech wise. Splatoon's the closest it got- an innovative shooter, and an online shooter that I like, both previously not achieved.
I'd just be scared. I wouldn't have my mind blown. That's just a differently positioned screen. It's all digital images. I could very easily understand how it was working, So no, that would not blow my mind. VR is certainly capable of it, but that's not blowing my mind in any way, shape, or form. Software blows my mind, not hardware.
They weren't perfect first time (NES)
They are pretty much dead now (Kinect, heck even the Wii sold poorly after the initial hype died down.)
Third chances in business are exceedingly rare.
I'm sorry. I just can't see video games being more than a minor feature of VR after the first few VR consoles.
Re: Book Review: Before Mario
One main thing though- I can see VR in a few generations. If it lasts, which isn't unlikely, it will have games- but it will be a very minor feature, with the bulk of features being about virtual tourism, virtual social media, and an entertainment centre where movies, eBooks, videogames and the like exist. But Video games is unlikely to be more than a sub-genre by that point.
Re: Book Review: Before Mario
@Kirk
The best selling game of all time still wasn't enough to make motion controls last. If that's not enough, VR's going to need a lot to stick around.
And I am convinced- it will be great, for a time. I just don't see it as a long term thing. Video games were different, those were brand new and exciting (and they were officially dead anyway for a year or so before Super Mario Bros was released.) I can see it might work- but it would require multiple games that are at the scale of Wii Sports. Seeing how utterly disappointing this gen has been thus far, I don't think any developer aside from Nintendo who can provide those sorts of games, and they're unlikely to be very interested, as they already tried VR, and it failed.
I can see it working- it would be cool if it worked- but I don't see it as more than a very remote chance, since the best selling game of all time wasn't enough for the previous innovation. Perhaps it will last for a while, I wouldn't complain if so, but in terms of likelihood..... I find it too improbable that it will be a feature used very much for gaming.
The current gen game that blew my mind? Splatoon. Any other game I've played this gen was worse than Pong. But Splatoon is awesome. VR will be a massive thing, I agree on that, just not that it's going to change gaming much.
Re: Book Review: Before Mario
@Kirk
I've even got plans for a Virtual reality console. It's not very focused on first person games, as you say, but I know what I'm talking about with VR.
So no, I do not think it's limited to first person experiences. However, for people to maintain interest in it, each console must innovate VR. And Playstation and Xbox haven't done anything innovative for themselves in a long, long time. I just can't see this being more than a fad.
True, at this point only Nintendo really makes dedicated games consoles any more. And I don't deny that there's some good stuff that can be done with it. However, after a while, people will get used to it, and move on to the next thing.
The businesses only care about sales. So if VR fails commercially, they won't make more. Motion controls have been pretty much ignored of late, so it looks like it's dying out. I hope, for the sake of my console idea, I can be there in time for when VR is popular. But I don't think it will be.
Re: Book Review: Before Mario
@Kirk
I'm sure it won't flop immediately. But I doubt very much it will stay for any real length of time. Entertainment wise, yes, it's likely to be a hit, but a dedicated game console....... no. It can be a massive part of entertainment, but it's really not very useful for gaming. At first, getting the true first person experience will be exciting, but humans being humans, they'll get over it. The only long term purposes would be for those who want to travel, but without quite so much of the expense- a one off payment for a VR system being much cheaper than most vacations away from home. There, it will be useful. Cinemas are also threatened by it. But the links between it and gaming are far weaker than you'd think. And just because they can be done well does not mean they will be. I'm sorry, but I can't convince myself that this will do any better than motion controls. Great at first, but after a year or two I think it will fizz out and stop being as cool.
Re: Book Review: Before Mario
@Kirk
Personally, I think VR will be like motion controls- popular at first, but eventually rejected. It will be great while it lasts though.
Re: Book Review: Before Mario
Ah, back in the days of innovation. Motion control almost did it, but it turned out to be a fad. Wii U is certainly innovative- but not very popular, so not one that will be continued. In fact, for long term innovation, It was most recently achieved back in the days of the N64, with proper 3D. But the real innovations were the NES and SNES. If they made something like that again, that would be so freaking awesome. Then again, Wii U is my favourite console thus far.
Re: Five Splatoon Game Modes We Want to See
It would be nice if it was a battle to take out bosses in game. But hey, still definitely game of the gen for me, and once Wii U online starts working, it has a decent shot of best game ever, in my eyes at least.
Re: Review: Super Mario Maker (Wii U)
I mean, Super Mario Maker looks great, I've played it and it's by far the most intuitive level designer to date....... but saying Super Mario Galaxy 2 was AVERAGE Nintendo? That was my favourite game of all time. I've played Super Mario Maker at a friend's house, and it truly is great fun. But does it make SMG 2 look average?
Nah, but great review, I'm just overreacting. People have a tendency to do that over their favourite game of all time being called average. But I will definitely get Super Mario Maker once I can (Saving up for a Wii U, I can afford it November 22nd.)
Re: Study Finds That US Consumers Are Buying Wii U For Its Fun Factor And Kid-Friendly Nature
Wow.
PS4 is winning in sales because of specs, and Xbox one is beating Wii U because of brand. (Primarily)
FREAKING BRAND! That's pathetic. Even more pathetic than buying a console for specs, especially in this generation when all the consoles have pretty much evened out graphics wise....
Here's what is probably the actual reasons for both PS4 and Xbox One-
1. You can shoot guns.
2. You can kill people
3. Did I mention you can shoot guns?
4. To not have fun! (seriously, it's pathetic that Wii U is the only console which has "fun" as the main reason to purchase it, and that the PS4, the only one without it even in the top 5 is outselling both the other consoles.)
5. Generic game-78th edition