Hell Yes! DOOM And DOOM II Just Got Another Add-On, And It's Out Today

Damn. These purchases are the gifts that keep on giving!

Hey that’s cool!

Some of the best value on the Switch and it’s just gotten better since it first launched. Love this!

Awesome I played this Megawad on my Nividia shield tv using the open touch Doom app, but never finished it. Downloading tomorrow morning Doom in the A.M.

Simply Amazing!

This is wonderful news! Happy to hear about this!

Gonna play the hell out of these

I'm so glad consoles are finally getting mod capabilities now. There are some epic Doom WADs and rebuilds that would be great to have on console. I wonder if Bethesda would ever allow Brutal Doom to be "certified" for this.

Wow, that's cool. Definitely gonna check this out.

Wish I could post my HD sounds there... A man can dream.

Who's Christopher Golden?

@3RedTriangles No, because

1. They'd have to throw out the Unity-wrapped engine work for GZDoom and there's a ***** ton of licensing issues with that

2. Brutal Doom isn't that good of a mod (at least IMO)

3. The creator of Brutal Doom is literal human garbage

@The-Nate Agreed about Brutal Doom, it's their fault that the recent Doom games are what they are.

This is great news, though, hopefully these stages are good!

Way better than Cyberpunk 2077 and it's free too.

Any word on Brutal Doom? Is it possible?

I really appreciate the love thats been gives to Doom and Doom 2...now that I think about it(and look at it) this year, through all 6 Doom games on the Switch, this year alone I've played well over 120hrs, so, thanks for the love!! It's much appreciated.

@The-Nate oh wow just googled that guy and yikes. My only experience of brutal doom is through the oculus quest port of doom which has insane mod support (it’s also an insanely good fan port of doom and providing you already own the wads is free) and it was pretty good on that.

Since doom on switch has been so good I haven’t played on a pc in ages and Bethesda adding so many wads makes it pretty unlikely I will go back.

They get the Doom II spirit. Doom was all about Doom. Doom II was all about the wads.

Amazing, can't wait to try it out. I hope they keep releasing them

@TG16_IS_BAE To be fair, the Glory Kill mechanic was really based on a mechanic from Doom 4 1.0, which was in development years before Mark shat out Brutal Doom

That's great, but I haven't even started with Doom. I wonder what is considered "beating Doom", with so many add-ons.

Just when I think I'm out they pull me back in.

Um... 30 September 2019, as opposed to 2020? Am I missing a reference here?

@COVIDberry From what I've gathered, Doom Zero is a fanmade mod that was released on 30.09.2019. It's now been officially added to the game which is pretty cool imo.

@The-Nate Ah, good point, I forgot about that!

Considering they were released at very low price, It's amazing how much they upgraded the games later.

Doom Zero is a fanmade mod that was released on 30.09.2019. It's now been officially added to the game which is pretty cool imo.

@MajinSoul You mean Bethesda, those champions of litigation, didn't sue or issue a DMCA order when a fan dared do something with that IP??!?!?!?! What could they be thinking??

It's nice to see a company treat a venerable franchise so well, even if I won't give Bethesda my money.

Great news. Now we just need a responsible price for Doom Eternal *ahem £50!

Oh no!! I only just finished Rekkr mod!! More Doom for meeeeeeee!! 🙃🙃🙃

I'm waiting for wireless local play so I can Lan doom the way it should be played.

Thanks for the heads up, I'll download it.

Played thru Doom 1, 2 & 64 very recently so I may wait a bit but I'll grab it now in case it's delisted for whatever reason.

This is crazy good and very generous. For a game that i got for less than £5 its got more content than many games ive paid 10x the ammount for. This is how you look after a fan base and earn respect and loyalty. Above and beyond service.
Stay safe!

What am I waiting for?? A physical collection to be announced the day after I cave and buy the digital, thats why I have not got it yet

Level-geometry doesn't look all that 'faithful' to the originals, but I'll give it a whirl when I eventually get these games.

@Retro_Player_77

I love Cyberpunk 2077. It plays beautifully on my Xbox 1X. It's a fascinating and fantastic game.

@COVIDberry Bethesda will be Microsoft owned next year. So it won't be the same company any more. Phil Spencer will stop Bethesda being jerks as that isn't the brand image he's crafting for Game Pass and Xbox and Xcloud.

Stupid question here: so, is this an update for Doom, or Doom II, or both?

@Lionyone ROFL An acquisition by Microsoft improving a company's moral fibre?!?! Hahahahahha, I guess that is possible, when we're discussing Bethesda! Bahahah... oh Lord.

EDIT: We're discussing, of course, the temporarily chastened MS, still recovering from the Xbox One launch debacle...

I cannot complain about this purchase. It continues to grow in value.

@mjharper
I am guessing both but perhaps the NL overlords will shed light on this.

@Lionyone Never! Just look how awesome Rare was and how crap they are today.

ID was better when were free, got worse inside Zenimax umbrella and will get even worse under MS.

@COVIDberry You've not been paying attention to Xbox so I guess you're not an Xbox gamer. I've been gaming on Xbox since 2017 and I have been consistently impressed at how Phil Spencer has completely reshaped reformed and redesigned Xbox the company. It isn't the same company at all that it was in 2013. Game studios acquired by Xbox in the new era have praised the way Xbox helps them be more creative and take more risks and build better games for gamers. That's happened since Phil Spencer took over and was elevated to the Microsoft board giving him complete independent control of Xbox. Phil has been a genuine velvet revolution at Xbox. This is something to celebrate and it's good for gamers everywhere on every platform. Phil doesn't fight console wars and he thinks such macho talk is destructive for the industry, for example it drives away female gamers. That's why for example you have Ori and Cuphead on Switch. This is a good thing. It makes the gaming world much better.

@abdias Rare are doing amazing things with Sea of Thieves on Xbox so they're doing very well and very successfully thank you.

I got the first DOOM on my switch when it was super cheap and it's been fun to experience, although it was also enough to know it's not really my kind of game. But with these updates I may still hop back in from time to time just to check it out.

@Lionyone I never played sea of thieves, so can't give my opinion but it is bellow 70 on metacritic, while perfect dark, 007, banjo kazooie, conker and dk64 are all above 90. Not that I am telling that metacritic is beyond mistakes, but it is an indicative of decline in quality and productivity.

Best 1,50€ I've ever spent.

@Lionyone True, I do not indulge Xbox. I'm sure you understand that the name of MS carries much freight, most of it totally unrelated to video games.

Picture this, if you will: I return to this hobby recently, after a long long long time away, trying to gather the sheer scope of everything that has changed. Retailers and collectors tell me that MS has dropped the ball, after their high in the X360 days. Educating myself about the "x-bone", I immediately discover their initial plans... brazenly Orwellian DRM (I mean, even the CCP doesn't insert that much spy equipment in consumer goods!), and Don Mattrick's smug, "Become Human" face telling Keighley, "Let them eat (360) cake".

I mean... yes, I have an anti-MS bias, but... what would you think in my place?

You're right about Xbox playing nicely with others now. I happily snagged physical copies of the Ori games, and am awaiting Cuphead's retail release. I'm all in favour of velvet revolutions, and I think that Japan and the world benefit from some competition in gaming hardware and the like. I just hope that MS doesn't perceive itself to be on top again, or the old toxic habits could return. (See: Sony and cross-play.)

I need to finish sigil but I will definitely be doing this one soon. Also doom eternal is taking up a lot of my time.

@mjharper Most likely both. I just downloaded the mod in Doom 1. You do have to log in with/create a Bethesda account to download add-ons, although they're nice enough to only ask for your email address if you have to create an account (and make your password on a PC/smart device).

I will probably download it. Need to pick up Doom 2 at some point when it goes on sale again.

So many great mods - there is even one which makes Doom a medieval experience. Love it. Hope that Bethesda gives Doom 3 motion controls like in Doom 1,2, 64 and 2016 and Eternal.

Still need to finish 2 and 64.

@COVIDberry

John Carmack released the source code to the public just a week short of 23 years ago. Before that, they more than supported fanmade levels, level editors and full-on mods for Doom: they motivated them. Doom II's appeal has always been more about 3rd party maps than the core game, itself.

The Microsoft under Satya Nadella and X-box under Phil Spencer are the polar opposite of any negative impressions one would have of either. For some years now, X-box has been like: "What do you want? Ok, here you go. But surely there's more I can give you? What can I do for you? Please, Please Please, let me do something for you...pleeeaaaase, I beg of you, take my shirt off of my back!" It's pretty uncanny, tbh.

@Strife89 @Zidentia So, is it the same levels in both games? Do the "Doom Zero" levels look the same in both Doom and Doom II?

I realize I could answer these questions myself when I get home, but I'm still at work for a few more hours. :/

@abdias Those reviews you cite are old and out of date as Sea of Thieves has been continuously developed and improved a huge amount. As a result it won Best Ongoing Game at the 2019 PC Gamer Awards. That's why Sea of Thieves has a thriving community today. Rare made the game amazing, it took time beyond launch but they did it.

@COVIDberry That's ancient history now. Seriously all has improved for better at Microsoft and Xbox. They're like completely different companies now and they are deeply gamer focused now.

Treat yourself in 2021 to an Xbox Series X with Game Pass Ultimate and I guarantee you won't regret it. You'll love it.

These Doom games are the best $2.27 (each at a 70% discount) of ever spent on a game! To think I loathed Doom and its mind-numbingly dull gameplay and poor controls when I first played it on PC all those years ago. In fairness, it was my first time use with M+KB and it was Doom 2 and mostly on stage 2. It just seemed a whole bunch of pointless running around shooting at ugly and stupid monsters.

PS: These new versions of Doom and Doom 2 have an excellent split-screen mode too.

they more than supported fanmade levels, level editors and full-on mods for Doom: they motivated them. Doom II's appeal has always been more about 3rd party maps than the core game, itself.

@robr You'll get no argument from me.

The contrast, for me, was between Nintendo's heavy-handed, legalistic and frankly stupid response to their OST being heard, sans monetization, on YouTube (the horror!), versus the open approach you are referencing here, one which - I'll use some corporate-speak here - leverages the passion of fans.

Pretty striking difference.

@mjharper
It is a Map Pack as big as one Main Doom Game.

Edit:
Would be cool to have that Doom 4 Mod (forgot the name) where und they've changed the Weapons to those of Doom 2016.
It works on original DOS so it can run with this Doom Release also

Edit2:
Ok i can't find the Mod i mean, there plenty and terrible ones as i see.
That one i have on my PC runs also under DOS, has Doom 16 Weapons and Enemies and original Levels.

Edit3:
Everbody enjoying the original Doom, i can recommend to play online on Zdaemon and else.
It is much joy to play there all kind of Modes and Mods.
Check out the Zdaemon Sessions for Example:
https://www.zdaemon.org/?CMD=news_zds

Doom has got to be up there as one of if not the best value game of the entire generation, basically £4 and still being supported with plenty of free content

@Moroboshi876 When you see what happened to the rabbit, I’m pretty sure you’ll realize that Doom is just getting started

It’s also one of the best games ever, period. It’s coded so cleanly (thankyou, Mr. Carmack) and the rules are so simple that anyone can pick it up and play (because it’s actually a 2-dimensional game in disguise). And let’s not even get into: the nearly air-tight level design, the incredible atmosphere, enemy AI (they a actually fight each other!) and the timeless audio and soundtrack.

The original Doom is probably my fourth favorite game ever, behind Zelda: BotW, Final Fantasy VI, and Castlevania Symphony of the Night. So many memories of Deathmatching with friends late into the evening, or swapping whatever crazy new maps we concocted in “DoomEd”...

Doom 2 was a slight step back in terms of design (maps too big) but we did get the Super Shotty and some more highly memorable demons from it.

I just don't get why they allow us to play with computer keyboard but not allow classic controls nor mice