Pokémon HOME Update Finally Gets Rid Of 'Impossible' Trade Requests

It's been 3000 years...

If there is anything to show Game Freak's incompetency, this is it.
Lv. 1 impossible trades have been a thing since Diamond and Pearl released (2006 JP, 2007 Worldwide, 2008 Korea) and I'm not sure if they have ever fixed it before now. 14 years for what amount to checking an index for a Pokemon's first obtained Lv.; something fans have done and put online for decades.

Finally! Got so used to seeing impossible requests when trying to complete my Pokedex in Pokemon Moon, surprised it took so long for Game Freak to stop jokers putting those trade listings up

They should have done this ages ago. This has been a huge problem ever since the GTS first went live in Gen 4. The only way to obtain many of the ridiculous requests would be to hack the 'Mon into the game, which not everyone is comfortable with. That's if the GTS wouldn't even flag a Pokemon as an illegal hack.

Better late than never, but when it's been almost fifteen years....

No more Zacian 51-60 for all those delicious shinies I need

This will be interesting. You can have a lvl 1 Charizard in Pokemon Go and transfer it to Let's Go and from there to Home. It'll look soooo fake, but is 100% legit. As of speaking this counts only for Gen1 Pokemon, but other generation pokemon could have the same "issue".

@FlameRunnerFast then at some point something impossible becomes possible and their systems block possible things and need to be updated. This could add massive amounts of work for something that seems simple. Like every gen 1 pokemon now available at all levels thanks to Pokemon Go.

"Incompetence" has nothing to do with it.

I think I hear pikachus singing some where.

Bout time.

@IKAY You can see which game the pokemon originates from, so this wouldn't be so much of an issue. LV1 Charizard from PoGo? Legit. LV1 Charizard from RBY? Fake.

It is interesting that this took so long and fair to call them out for that.

That doesn't make this any less appreciated. Long overdue sure, but very nice indeed.

this has been such a glaring issue for so long, the gts has been almost unusable since ts inception

Does that mean I can finally transfer over my Cyndaquil then?

This is great! But it seems only present for new deposits. All of the ones currently in there with impossible requests weren’t pushed out 😢

It only took a few decades

Disappointing that this suggests there are only 3 all new Pokémon on the Isle of Armor.

Actually to me nothing is changed and I still see crappy requests as usual. Epic fail, did they maybe took off the possibility to create new ones, but maybe those already present will continue to stay there and congestionate results as always?
They can’t get one right 🤣

@Ashunera84
Check Trainer's first encounter level with pokemon if pokemon is valid to trade (not glitched).
If last average of encounter dates (say 50) from prior trades is less than current average, lower to new average. Do not count encounter levels above 10-20 unless more than a certain amount (say 100) occur.
This is just a rough example, but you can make an algorithm to automatically adjust the first encounter rate so that it is roughly in the bounds of it. And then add a boundary of 4-5 levels of tolerance in case the algorithm is not exact enough. Encounter levels have been logged for pokemon for a long time, so don't say this data isn't accessible.

You don't have to update a ton of entries every time and thinking like that is what causes Game Freak to be so bloated. As their size of pokemon, items, moves, etc grow they need algorithms to effectively handle this information. Not just "oh we have too much pokemon....we don't want to make an automatic process to update them for us with our prior models. Let's just manually update every one by hand and stop at a certain point." Most game companies have these processes so that their workflow isn't interrupted by needless busywork.

So yes, incompetence does have something to do with it. Monoliftsoft did this for their XCDE textures to update them all. Their employees didn't manually update thousands of textures on their own. That would be stupid....but Game Freak...we know how that works by now.

@FlameRunnerFast I think you're oversimplifying AND overestimating the impact illegal pokemon (and the ability to request illegal things in trades) had on players' enjoyment of the game which is ultimately the part that matters for future sales.

None of this has ever affected me, and I've put thousands of hours into this series since the GTS was released. Yes, there's a tiny subset of people that cared before Pokemon Home, but most are going to be like me, or care even less because they played less. Having different priorities than a specific subset of vocal players does not equal incompetence.

@Ashunera84 All of these pokemon have specific bounds for what they can do stat wise. I said nothing about their impact, only that lower than average Lv. pokemon can be fixed by using a simple data algorithm. Illegal pokemon also can be prevented by looking a pokemon's base stats (in the game), calculating it based on levels, EVs, etc, and then comparing if the pokemon's current stats are roughly equivalent. If it isn't, mark it as an illegal pokemon and prevent its entry.

You're underestimating the expectations that players should have on a company that has the most successful franchise in current history. There is no excuse. Lack of talent? Hire more people and train them to meet your guidelines. Don't apologize for a company.

@FlameRunnerFast you're entirely missing the point.

Why would they care to take action if the vast majority of people do not care? Frustrating players because the system did not allow something legal would cause a much bigger stink than allowing a few illegal things. Why spend time and resources messing with something that does what it was intended to do? Now THAT is a bad idea. The fixes you're suggesting are nowhere near as simple as you say.

It matters more in Home because Home's primary functionality is relatively limited, being simply storage and trading. It mattered a lot less in past games because the GTS was a very minor part of the overall experience, and therefore a low priority.

You can either go through life simply assuming people are incompetent/malicious/lazy/whatever and get mad all the time, or go through life knowing you don't have all the facts and recognize people are all doing what makes sense to them with information that you yourself do not have.

@Flowerlark If I want to trade my Zamazenta for your Kyogre, here's one way to do it: I offer my Zamazenta in SwSh for your anymon in SwSh. I then ask for a Kyogre on GTS but offer a Lv1 anymon, and you fulfill it.
That's right, sometimes people are using the GTS as trades since back in March we couldn't do friend trades unless we were nearby, and we couldn't move Kyogre in SwSh.

I thought this was fantastic but the problem is still there, just did a search for poipole and people are still looking for lv1-10 poipole and nagandel... Just another fail by gamefreak

This has been a problem forever, whenever I would go on GTS on the DS games 99% of the requests was for a level 9 or under Arceus or some crap, I guess better late than never.

Huh... So I guess that means the the 1-10 poipole trades are acceptable when the lowest level you can get is 40. Or the level 1-10 Zacian I see. I get them not being able to fix it, but they try to claim otherwise and that irritates me.

@FlameRunnerFast all you ever do is complain, would you stop using everything as an excuse to dump on game freak?