Switch Mini Rumours Escalate As Spanish Arm Of GAME Lists Accessories

It's all but confirmed I suppose.

Having a Switch Mini is great and all but I would be more excited if Nintendo releases a Pro version this year instead.

"Rumours" ? What is this, a British website?

They can't pull of a New 3DS.. People lose their if they make a upgrade with exclusives to it.

This website has fast become a tackle shop, because it's full of worms.

@iakona23 ....Yes

@iakona23 And American websites don't have rumours?

@KazooieTooie Agree, keep it simple. Give us a considerable discount on the smaller one and I am in.

Well, I will have to say what I said about Pokémon Go! It's not aimed at me, but a Switch mini is going to be very popular. If I am honest, I am a tad worried it will outsell the vanilla Switch and jeopardise any chances of me getting a more powerful one lol. (No chance. The next 20 years is going to be awesome)

3DS XL was released on 28th July 2012.

Without any announcement at E3, Nintendo released the console a month after E3 2012. They even outright denied they were making it before E3. Nintendo lied.

@LetsGoSwitch we have "rumors"

@LetsGoSwitch American websites have rumors, ha ha. I’m just kidding. I like British spelling and I try to learn all of the words which have alternate American and British spelling.

@LetsGoSwitch I think he is refering to american versus british way of writing.

@LetsGoSwitch Its the spelling of rumours he is talking about. Rumours (UK) and rumors (USA) Like colour and color. EDIT: I was too slow replying!

I really have no interest in a mini. I’d rather they made a Switch Pro with enhancements, rather than a smaller downgraded budget version that does less than the base model I already own.

Of course it’s happening. It’s a Nintendo handheld. Handhelds always have new editions and upgrades.

i really think that the switch pro is going to have like a 10-15% performance improvement to keep that fps stable(still with the tegra x1), battery life improvements and maybe a special pro controller bundled with it. Because honestly you're going to kill 3rd party developers with 3 modes to optimize for.

Can't see anything on that Game.es page relating to a Switch Mini.

I'm still having conversations in the last Switch Mini article comments, gonna sit this one out. And I've already been on this site for so long as an American I spell it rumours now. Too many NX articles.

If I had one single complaint about the Switch, it would be that I always (and I mean ALWAYS) intuitively hit the Home button, when I'm trying to hit the screen capture button..

@BacklogBlues I guarantee these sticks will be more like GameCube ones that last decades because Nintendo isn't going to want more controller issues.

@iakona23 @iMarkU @Tangerine Okay, thanks for the English lesson! (not sarcastic by the way)

Oh my fecking gawd. I'd prefer a Switch Pro than Mini.

I mean, I figured this was coming when I saw the amount of bezel on the Switch combined with the fact that the top of it stuck out from the top of the dock.

@GetShulked Then it's not the version for you (if it turns out to actually exist). Not for me either for that matter! But there probably are quite some people lurking around not owning a Switch (but having a 3DS and other handhelds) really wanting to play the new Pokemon for example. Also, if the Mini won't have detachable joycons I guess that should be a reason to include an actual d-pad.

I for one am more curious about the actual announcement and what kind of improvements a Pro version might bring.

If true, i'd buy either one: a mini for my son so he doesn't steal mine all the time, or a pro for me to upgrade and pass the standard Switch to him. Win/win.

I have no desire to play a Switch Mini, but a Switch Pro? Now you have me biting at the hook. It will depend on the price.

"We already know that Nintendo has moved its production out of China to avoid the impact of US tariffs and that three Switch models are being manufactured at the new site."

No, we don't know that. Yes, Nintendo did move some manufacturing out of China - that's a fact - but the new models so far exist only in rumors.

Switch Mini is happening, whether you agree with the idea or not.

Announcement trailer drop next Wednesday?

@Judgedean I watched a df video today about marvel ultimate alliance, super lucky tails, mario and sonic at Tokyo, luigis mansion e3 demos and not one of them ran at a solid 1080p and some of them just ran at 30fps. But who cares since we only play portable as nintendo fans.

I just want a switch pro already, I hope if they do announce they do both at the sane time. It's got to be pushing on for it if they are going to grab the holiday season, though a launch with a pokemon bundle seems like the smartest move.

@iakona23 Yes... yes, it is.

@Aldora Pokémon Stars was a pretty great game.

@Mountain_Man also would special themed bundles with decorated docks/etc covered in game themed art count as a separate SKU from a conventional Switch?

I mean, Japan's already getting that dragon quest switch bundle with the dock decorated with unique artwork for example.

Makes me wonder how many of these "a new Switch is coming because a wall street analyst just stumbled on another mooow unidentified console sku from nintendo!" might have just been stuff like that in truth?

@NinChocolate, where did you get Wednesday from?

For current owners, I hope there's a way to play our digital games on both machines. Kind of like how Apple lets you have an iTunes account on several devices. This plus cloud save would make the mini worth buying for current owners.

I will get excited when a switch pro gets announced.

@Lucarianzx I just think it’s a likely day for Nintendo to put out press info

I mean they revealed the Switch on a Thursday, and the new 2ds xl on a Friday... Maybe?

or maybe this was just a marketing strategy from GAME to push traffic to the website,a click bait if you will, seeing how now it's removed

@hakjie11 Given they would have to greatly improve the cooling and miniaturise the electronics, it’s more likely to be more expensive.... I see this often in forums ‘smaller’ should be ‘cheaper’... but in these kind of devices, it’s harder to make it smaller, not easier.

@BacklogBlues I would say my SNES controller still feels the same after 24 ish years.... or at least negligible differences.... but I’m also very careful with them... sticky fingers were NOT an option =P

Pure speculation, because clearly they're going to release a successor for 3DS since as many on here continually say the 3DS is still selling like hotcakes. Fanboys know everything, so they're all right of course. This means Switch is NOT the successor for it, and the Switch Lite isn't happening, the 4DS will come out soon, due to the insanely high demand for the 3DS right now.

Perhaps Nintendo wants to announce a Pokemon bundle for the holiday season. If the current system stays at $299, this will likely be $199 and replace the 3DS price point. A bundle with Pokemon Sword or Shield for $250 could be a big holiday seller.

Nintendo has set up the holiday season and early new Year with a September Direct. They have had a Direct in September for the past 4-5 years. Perhaps that would be a good time to reveal the system.

I'm pretty sure all of these accessory listings are based off of pure speculation and rumors rather than confidential retailer knowledge.

The Switch Mini is real, but those mockups are just that - mockups.

It’s just all so weird to me to lack removable controllers. Here I thought we’d have a hybrid system and they’re going back to splintering it again. Of course, this is if this stuff is even true in the first place. I find it very hard to believe they’d splinter the ecosystem again. But I would also LOVE to have a smaller firm factor switch. I honestly hate taking my switch with me since it’s so big. I love the portability but it’s just so cumbersome compared to the 3DS. I’d also love some revised analog sticks more akin to the pro controller. The ones included on the joy cons are too “loose” for me to enjoy playing any hard core games (Dark Souls, Zelda, Mario, etc.)
I find the portable mode to be much more suited to side-scrollers.
Last thing I’ll say: if the switch mini comes with a 3DS game card slot, I’ll have my money down faster than I can eat pizza, and I eat pizza FAST.

No way I want a smaller console unless the screen size stays the same. I cant see crap as it is. Give me a pro version with meatier guts, better battery...that makes all prior games play better as well as new ones

@Ludovsky That's a very good point. I hadn't considered that these "new models" we keep hearing about might simply be a standard Switch with custom themes.

@graysoncharles
You mean people who play it docked mostly, but also in handheld mode and people who play it only in handheld and refuse to play it docked under every circumstances?

If the joycons are no longer a thing I don't see why they would stick to the buttons for the d-pad. The entire benefit of that design is for being able to remove them, hold them sideways and use them as an extra controller. Without that capability you just have a really terrible d-pad alternative.

@graysoncharles Yeah I always liked the idea of a Switch Mini because I always thought of the Switch as being a rather compromised design when it comes to a dedicated handheld. There is just something about it, it's a bit too big and bulky for my taste when it comes to handhelds, I much prefer to use a PS Vita sized device. For that reason I have been for the most part a "dock only person," only exception being occasionally when I go on vacation.

Setting a Switch as a pure handheld before end of 2020 is pretty much the smartest thing they can do.

Make it easier for Gamers to afford a PlayStation/Switch or PC/Switch combo.

I hope the mini doesn't happen for this reason: If they start selling Switches that have their controllers fused to the system (and they sell well), developers will stop making games designed for detached joy cons. Kind of like it was really rare for 3rd parties to release 2D only games for the 3DS. Then when Nintendo started selling 2DS's, it became common.

@iakona23 that's exactly what it is 😂

Come on fellas the release of a cheaper more compact Switch was inevitable.

@graysoncharles
So basically, what you are saying is, that Nintendo failed once again with their new console, because most people in reality rather would want a handheld AND a homeconsole. What a bunch of hypocrites.😏

If I remember correctly, Nintendo of Europe denied that the DS Lite was happening and less than a week later it was announced.

Secondly, Activision made a bold claim about “influencing hardware design” with Guitar Hero on the DS and a couple of days later Nintendo announced the DSi.

How about these halfwits at Nintendo just release a Switch with Bluetooth and the ability to chat and play with my friends?

@sixrings Hopefully the new X1 Tegra chip gives the boost the Switch desperately needs. With the next gen consoles coming out next year, Nintendo needs to stay within range,

@graysoncharles
And what may that point be?

@graysoncharles
So Nintendo failed with the Switch and should never have released it?

Now I have one console and can decide whatever game I like to play whatever way I want. And now you're saying, Nintendo should go back to the old ways, where I have to choose, between playing those games on my TV and those other games in handheld form.🙄

@graysoncharles Man, you are kinda off kilter with your thinking. Sony showing Killzone CG and passing it off as gameplay is lying about your hardware. Referring to DS as a third pillar was true...until it became a phenomenon and folk stopped buying GBA. It's not lying, it's being reserved.

Switch audience cannot be divided by design of the console! Whether you play it 100% hand held or 100% docked (and the last survey I saw clearly showed the majority of owners use both) the device enables you to play your preference. We are all playing the same games. I don't see any division lol. Only thing I see is folk not jumping in at the $300 price point and Switch mini might better option for kids.

I will buy a Switch pro day one...but dammit, it better be a hybrid. As for the mini. I wonder how much the Pokémon Company were pushing for this. Nintendo are playing a numbers game, not trying to appease some weird division amongst it's fans. Which I haven't ever seen aside from people wishing they would go bust copying Microsoft and Sony.

Too many click-baiters going on here. Until there is a actual HARDWARE-this is all pure speculation at this point. And to those talking one has to choose device that is a joke. Either one would be fine for less if true you get a mini without separate Joy-Cons. But also you will need something like a Grip-Case to hold it properly and I don't see any of those showing up yet. So that to me tells me this is just hyperbowl speculations right now.

Here's more telling:
Update: The listings have been removed<<<<------------ this should tell you something doesn't add up and if they do have a mini in Development someone did something they shouldn't have done.

If Nintendo also announces something like Download-Play for Switch, then it's a deal.

@graysoncharles I don't see that as a problem. I'm sure Nintendo and NVidia see it as an opportunity. You are tying yourself up in knots overthinking this. Hybrid console is as much a gaming hardware as a home console, a handheld, an arcade machine. It's going to evolve if the money is there. And it looks like it is. I never thought home consoles would replace coin-ops. They are tiny in comparison. But, demand, lifestyle and technology changes.

Maybe you are putting forward a case for a pure home console version. A sibling of the mini. Fair dos. Maybe a budget home console without the screen etc might be feasible. But if you are using that as an excuse for 4K 120 frames per second XBox2 equivalent, then you sir are following the wrong games company. They aren't that.

I would be interested if the mini had loose joycons and doubled as an android phone.

Here we go again...

"Update: Sorry folks, it looks like the listings have now been removed from the Spanish GAME website."

LOOOOL!

People saying “I want Switch pro” don’t even know why they want it. More power? It’s still the same generation, you’d get better mileage on that front from better game development, not an overclocking in a portable device.

Giving it more than two seconds thought, this would be a great thing if it was a cheaper version that would still be dockable. Multi switch family would be a Nintendo profit multiplier I'd guess.

@graysoncharles As long as we can all play the same games then it's all good.

@NinChocolate Personally, I don't want a Switch Pro, I just want a "Dock Pro", which contains a powerful supplemental computing device.

@graysoncharles the last survey Nintendo released showed that most players play in both docked and handheld - as a hybrid. Not sure where you’ve got this idea that most people are either one or the other...

@Anti-Matter I don't think that it's rumors anymore but man I just love that song from Bananarama!

Hurry up with the Switch Pro, Nintendo! My joycons are knackered, the top of the Switch has developed a crack near the vent and the battery life is starting to wane.

I still think a Switch mini will release with Pokemon. Depending on the cost I may be able to convince my wife to get one and we can play together 😁

@koekiemonster its a console for me since I never play it off the dock

@gamefreak77 to back up what u said.I'm a fan boy.and Nintendo said last year they are currently making a successor 3ds.which means its not the switch lol.its funny how people ignore what Nintendo says.they also said the switch was not the successor to the 3ds

Nintendo has stated before their not making any new models for switch this is just another bs rumors getting out of hand.

@NinChocolate I guess digital foundry don't know what they're talking about when they say they would like a switch pro. Or IGN NVC are not true fanboys because they suggest if you have another platform then that is where you should play the Witcher or Mortal Kombat.

I'd like to just be able to replace my current switch tablet portion with a new switch pro tablet. That's the easy solution although I can understand a new dock which would support HDR.

@Slim1999
The Switch is the successor to the 3DS. There is no other Nintendo handheld or dedicated 3DS successor.

If they make a Nintendo Switch that is exactly the same but doesn't have those wobbly detachable joycons; I am all in.

@MrBlacky

"... go back to the old ways, where I have to choose, between playing those games on my TV and those other games in handheld form"

Not if it works for you. Can stay with the Hybrid version.

But for people like me, that never stopped happening anyway. It was replacing my 3DS... not my PS4 or PC.

That is what @graysoncharles is pointing at. There is another group who never actually wanted a "hybrid". They just got the latest "Nintendo handheld" and it came with a TV dock in the box.

My left JoyCon snaps a little up and down now... It drives me crazy. Sometimes I feel like crazy-glue it on... but I trade my old consoles in when I upgrade. Would love one that is just one piece.

@vitelus “you're going to kill 3rd party developers with 3 modes to optimize for”

Nothing to say this won’t have the exact same processor and display resolution as the current Switch, meaning there’s little need to do special optimisations. It honestly looks like the savings will be in physical build with fixed controllers and what looks to be a 1” or so smaller display.

Anyway, game developers can optimise for multiple hardware sets...they’ve been doing it for decades.

I'm hoping for a Switch Mini, but I want the ability to share my game library between the Switch I have and the Mini. I'd love keeping my current one docked in the back room, and using the Mini while on the road. Not an issue with all my cart games, but an issue for all my digital games. Without this ability I'll be sorely tempted to hack my current switch (already bought an SX OS kit and dabbled a bit but did nothing to get banned and returned to stock shortly after) for my current one just so I can have my games on both systems.

Nintendo is greedy. You can bet there is a mini coming.

the amount of people who complain about their sticks is mind-boggling... like lordy can you just replace it yourself if it bothers you that much it is SO easy

@KazooieTooie I doubt this will have exclusives that the normal Switch doesn't have, since it is technically a downgrade. But if it was an upgrade, how can they not have exclusives? They have to take advantage of better hardware somehow.

@RiasGremory Actually, they said "As a general rule, we’re always working on new hardware and we will announce it when we are able to sell it." They never said that they aren't working on any new console.

@KazooieTooie Part of the beauty about the switch software is the ability to scale between resolutions and frame-rates. I feel confident that better performing hardware won't lock people--with older hardware--out of newer titles.

@CreepyNoodles PS4 Pro, XBOX ONE X don't have exclusives, but they do run almost all games better

I am more than fine with my current Switch. IF however they make a new console that will have exclusives for it, I will avoid buying anything Nintendo again. Also what do people do with their controllers that they need to be replaced yearly?

I'm hoping both models end up being released. I'll be buying a mini for my son, and a Pro for myself. Hopefully both models are compatible with the existing dock, since I already own extra for all the TV's in the house. That would be just super...

@sanderev I know. I just personally don't think it is a bad idea for them to do it.

With these rumors becoming more and more substantiated, I'm selling my Switch ASAP and will get the Switch Pro at some point after it comes out. I'm not really looking forward to any games until Mario Kart 9 anyway, so I'm not in a rush.

@meltendo absolutely agree ! If I can’t play the games I’ve already bought on the rumored Mini then it’s a no deal for me.

I’d like a smaller version though.

@sanderev it's like those that don't want to upgrade don't want those that do to have fancier things. The same games would work on both systems just the pro would work better. I have no idea why anyone would have a problem with that considering the last couple years has been a constant explanation of how 900p 30fps was "good enough."

@Damo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRtwUjcRAQA
You should actually post the images they showed, which were NOTHING, just white things, without even pricing those "accessories" Stop making this click bait articles, this guy reports better than you do. You should be ashamed.

@graysoncharles this infographic from N shows hybrid play style most popular then portable (>95% of time) portable then docked (95% of time). I’m a hybrid user. Love both styles. Love the machine.

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/10/nintendo_gamers_prefer_using_switch_as_a_handheld_rather_than_docked

Switch Mini was pretty much inevitable as soon as Game Freak revealed Sword and Shield. Same thing happened in 2013 with the 2DS being the solution to extra Pokemon X and Y sales.

Switch Pro if real will probably be a very minimal upgrade compared with what people are predicting.

As long as i can shove it in my pocket.

Yeah, wouldn’t really be interested in a switch mini, Switch Pro on the other hand, I’m all in

@westman98 "The Switch is the successor to the 3DS. There is no other Nintendo handheld or dedicated 3DS successor."

Poor forethought here. If it was successor then I be able to insert 3DS/2DS game into the Switch and play but it's not. So to make false equivalence is just full of fallacy here.

@RaunchyHylian "Yeah, wouldn’t really be interested in a switch mini, Switch Pro on the other hand, I’m all in"

I think most Switch owner would take great interest in that as well as I would too.

im knda bummed it wont have HD Rumble.

This so bizarre to me, a smaller version of an already mobile switch? Not only that but it takes away from the whole point of the switch! I personally can’t see this really happening as it seems like a stupid business idea, when all they have to do is release a powerful new version of the switch with better resolution and power to make it run new software, surely this would be a better route? It’s like saying “come buy half the intended product with this switch mini”?? Also it’s price won’t be that far from the full price of a switch with dock so again it just doesn’t make sense? All because they want a 3ds substitute?!

@graysoncharles couldn't play a handful of games with a decent framerate constitutes as being marginalized?

@SwitchForce
I mean, you can't insert a PS3 disc into a PS4, but nobody is going to argue that the PS4 is the PS3's successor. The lack of backwards compatibility doesn't imply that one platform isn't a successor to another.

The fact that the newest entries in various game franchises (Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, Luigi's Mansion, etc) are transitioning from 3DS to Switch should tell you that the Switch is the 3DS's successor.

@graysoncharles
The New 3DS was not marginally stronger than the 3DS - it was significantly stronger than the 3DS, with 6X the CPU strength and 2X the RAM. The only reason why the New 3DS is perceived as a "marginal" upgrade is because the screen resolution and GPU didn't change.

@graysoncharles
The point I'm making is that if the Switch received an upgrade of such scale (5-6X better CPU, 2X the RAM), there would be more than likely be quite a few Switch Pro exclusive games, though I doubt any of those exclusives will be huge titles (i.e. Metroid Prime 4, Zelda Breath of the Wild 2, Pokemon Gen 9, etc won't be among those games).

"entitled Switch Pro" I'll say it again, people calling Switch Pro are idiots. Why not Switch One X? Switch Ti would be smarter since it has an nVidia SoC.
The only Pro in Switch is in the controller's name.

I noticed during the E3 direct there were no games being released in October, if they did announce it in the next couple of months, I’m pretty sure that the mini will be on sale in October.

Nvidia is re-producing the Tegra X1 on 7nm process. This will mean more energy efficient and ability to sustain the max. Clockrate longer without overheating.

Currently the Tegra X1 in the Nintendo Switch is barely running at 60-70% power of what the Tegra X1 is capable of.

So if they can put the new 7nm version of the Tegra X1 in the so called Switch Pro, they would be able to finally push the Tegra X1 chip to its full capabilities and would see some serious improvements in current games better able to keep a stable framerate and having to rely less on the awful resolution scaling.
More importantly, with the new X1 being much more energy efficient, we can also see some welcome battery life improvements!

@BacklogBlues this is my problem with is as well. Put around 3,000 hours into my switch and on 3rd pair of joycons. If they are using the same analog sticks then those things won't last very long.

@westman98 "The point I'm making is that if the Switch received an upgrade of such scale (5-6X better CPU, 2X the RAM), there would be more than likely be quite a few Switch Pro exclusive games"
And here is the trolling again. Now that the Switch will get more power we still get the naysayers repeating the same old dead lines again. "Not enough power".
@westman98 "though I doubt any of those exclusives will be huge titles (i.e. Metroid Prime 4, Zelda Breath of the Wild 2, Pokemon Gen 9, etc won't be among those games)."
This is what fanboys like to dream about but looking at what's already coming for 2019 Switch is quite the opposite.

I'm not sure why ppl want a mini version to start with. The 3ds has more options imo. Just fix current joycon problems like the placement of the ribbon that connects the Sr and lr buttons along with the sync button and stick drift. Also maybe even tweak the locking mechanism on the joycons as they attach to the rails. Those would be a better investment in my eyes vs a smaller version of the switch.