Some Players Are Experiencing Corrupted Save Files After Using Piranha Plant In All-Star Mode

I'm scared now.. hope they can get their data back.

Welp, guess the first thing I'm doing before update is upload data. I have a party coming and I plan to bring Smash Bros with me, would suck to get down to the starter fighters for it.

Yup, that's me. All unlocked characters are gone except for piranha plant and default characters.

Good thing you can back up your data by transferring your data to flash drive....... Oh wait you can't. Nintendo holding our saves hostages just to force you into NSO.

@SmaggTheSmug Looking at some of the comments it looks like the cloud data vanishes as well on the default settings. Be careful.

Also I’ve seen somewhere that it only affects download copies of the game, but only in one place. Very much unconfirmed.

Am I the only one who still haven't got Pirahna Plant? I bought and registered game on day one. Heard I'm supposed to get an e-mail with download code for Plant, but nothing so far.

@Balladeer Ah, guess I won't be playing that mode with Pirahna Plant until after Saturday. If at all, I have yet to play it.

Suckers! Luckily I don't play Smash much

@Balladeer how does it delete cloud save?

@DannyBoi I think the default setting auto-updates the save with the game. So the cloud goes, ‘I see you’ve got rid of everything from your save file, I’ll just take... that...’ Not strictly a deletion, just an update you (really really) don’t want!

That said I’m by no means an expert, I’ve not used the cloud saves to date. I’d check the Twitter comments left by the lady in the article above, who did have a cloud backup and still lost it all.

I’m imagining the corrupted file gets auto-uploaded to the cloud.

I’m turning off Auto-backups temporarily for this game tomorrow, just to be safe, even if I don’t play all-stars mode.

The Piranha Plant is worse than the enemy in mode of Light. It feeds on the souls of actual players! I will have to make sure my cloud settings aren't auto, which I assume they would be by default.

And that's why saves backups are more useful than you probably think ...

After looking at it I actually disabled it on all games. I would much rather manually save it cloud than automatic, especially for games that only have 1 save per profile.

I have been lucky, the only game I ever lost save data on that I cared about was that WWE game on N64. The few others only had little time investment. If it had of been MH or some long rpg I would have lost my ****.

Stupid Plant...

Good thing I haven't used the Plant so far.
I have 220 hours on this game and just got the very last spirits. (Pikachu and Eevee from Let's Go are now available on the spirit board).
I have almost completed the game 1000%!!! Don't want to lose all that, especially not all my Lv 99 spirits and my dojo-trained maxed out ones.

Hope Nintendo is able to fix the corrupted save files.
And we better playing something else until the next Smash update

If anyone here runs into this in the future, what you want to do is press home, + (start), go to save data cloud backup, select your user (the one playing smash right now), and then hit X to cancel the pending backup of your corrupted save.

Turn off the automatic backup just in case, before you close smash.
Go back into the same menu and download the old healthy save data.

(this assuming you have an existing backup in the cloud and that you had it previously set to automatically back up, making it a recent one)

Come to think of it, Nintendo should seriously consider keeping multiple backups, letting us select how far back to restore from.
You know, how dropbox, onedrive and every other cloud backup service functions.

@Rubbercookie
They should add that to the article.

@Rubbercookie
They really should, it makes it much more of a restore option then just I lost my save completely. They already have the date and time in the save info so it wouldn't be a big step.

@SetupDisk I bet a lot of people would appreciate a NintendoLife video showing off a backup restore.
Seeing it in action is much more enlightening than a wall of text.

Welp, I guess Nintendo really doesn't want my Kingdom Hearts III playthrough to come to a screeching halt. ('Twas a joke, y'all.)

On a more serious note, though, how come this hasn't popped up in the Plant's playtesting phase? Do they use blank save data for the character or something? Well, either that, or maybe Sakurai's smaller team used for DLC is to "blame". Whatever the reason, though, my safest bet for the time being - and boy what a time it is - would be either a Nintendo Direct, this week or next week, coming with a quick patch, or the patch itself coming, alone, as soon as possible. I checked my save file upon finding out: no damage so far, but I did use the Plant in training mode, Classic mode, and a quick Smash match against the CPU. I hope none of this will ultimately prove to be enough to qualify; as of right now, however, my Smash game can consider itself quarantined.

And we thought Isabelle was the god of chaos...

@SKTTR
Oh sweet the only two I need! Well for the spirit list. I have 1298 (plus some multi)on hand and can't figure out who is missing. Not a summon as I have all, not a part of a summon as all are available, plus I keep checking both the light mode and vault shops.

The only challenge I have left is 200 onlne battles.

Oh no 😬 ... I used him but not probs yet, I won't do all star mode then lol ... Glad I didn't loose mine, I've done the games classic mode with everyone, got nearly all spirits, done world of light twice, and done nearly all challenges and I've poured nearly 200 hours into the game ... If I had to restart it all I wouldn't bother with smash anymore lol

Thanks so much for the heads-up!

Ouch, this sounds terrible! Was so happy when I downloaded Piranha plant today. But after hearing this news I won't use him at all untill the situation is solved. Isn't there a way to restore your save-files? Remember the bug from Twilight princess on the Gamecube? You could download a patch that destroyed the bug and also restored your save-file so you could continue.

First the Bowser's inside story 3ds bug and now this, doesn't Nintendo have any testers anymore or what?

I’ve heard this problem is only for people who own the digital copy of this game and not the physical copy.

I always sympathize those who lose their save data due to bugs and glitches, therefore I wish for the best that those people don't lose too much progress on their data. Hopefully Sakurai and his goons will throw a fix their way soon.

As for me, I never visited All Star Smash since I was uninterested. Sure, having a "proper" All Star Mode wouldn't have helped due to the roster size, but at least it poses as some form of traditional way of facing off all characters as opposed to being a reenactment of Brawl's Co-op Event 21. Then again, I'm probably All Star'd out after about five entries...

No new boss for the plant on classic mode which sucks. And he has only 1 good smash that is easy to dodge looks like i be avoiding using him in online battles than.

Anyone else thing Pirahna Plant is OP

Thank you Sakurai, I can finally enjoy the game again in 2.0.0!

Thanks for all the comments. We don't have NO so no backup save file for us. But we do have the physical cart so we should be OK.

I haven't started yet, been playing Eevee, but my son unlocked everyone in about 3 days and just recently finished WoL. He would not be happy losing all of that.

Think I'll warn him off All-Star mode for now just the same u til it gets patched.

And sign up for a free 1 week trial of NO to back up all our saves. I think Nintendo said they'll keep for a year even if we don't pay.

If it comes down to it, after they patch the game, if they can't save the saves they could easily put out an optional dl for unlocking all fighters or at least have them show up right away in the rematch door.

Oh no! Thats horrible. Good thing I never bothered with the new all star mode.

Yikes! That’s sucks. I feel for those who lost their save data. I only used the plant in training mode for the moment.

Thank goodness for the cloud save feature.

Oh Nintendo. For God's sake.

All Star mode in Ultimate is terrible, anyway. It’s one of the very few things that’s a massive step backwards from previous games in the series.

@rjejr Having the physical game card won’t protect you. The save data is stored to your console, not the card. You’ll still lose all your progress if you get hit with this glitch. Stay away from All Star mode and you should be fine.

No game, or other program can easily be swept 100% bug-free. I still believe, however, that Nintendo rushed Ultimate out the door, to get NSO subscribers during their favorite financial time of year, Nov/Dec. I imagine they anticipated a lot of people would subscribe just for Ultimate, especially since it is new.

Even though I preordered from the eshop before release and have yet to call Nintendo to conversate why I didn't get a redeem code for Piranha; i might as well wait until they patch out all the bugs first after reading this. Not a big deal to me.

@SetupDisk If you are missing 2 spirits on the "Spirit Board" number, most likely are Marx and Dracula, since the only way to get after you enhance them is playing WoL twice.

It is Mewtwo all over again.

Serious question, would this affect other modes too? I tend to play Classic Mode more than any other modes. So far, I like how Piranha Plant plays, but I did that in regular Smash mode against CPU.

@thesilverbrick I know the data is stored on the Switch, but if you read all the comments 2 people said this only happens if you download the game. 1might be wrong, but 2 I take as a trend. 😁

I'll Google it later before my kids get home from school.

Welp, thankfully I only played classic mode with Piranha Plant. I will definitely not be touching All-Star mode anytime soon. I'm shocked that a glitch this big could even make it past the development team. I hope everyone affected is able to get his or her data back.

@rjejr Gotcha. I must have missed those comments. Sorry about that. In either case, staying away from All Star shouldn’t be a problem. It’s such a dull and boring mode, especially compared to what it used to be in past games.

Accursed man-eating plants, chomping up all of my data!

@MatoFilipovic check your spam

@MatoFilipovic You should have an e-mail that was sent on the day you registered the game. It has the title "Thanks for your purchase of the Super Smash Bros. Ultimate game" (if you have gmail search "Nintendo" and it should be listed). If you really didn't receive the e-mail you have to contact Nintendo's customer support.

The same thing happened with Mewtwo when he was released for Smash 3DS/Wii U. How isn't this caught in testing?

@Grant007 Good for u I Have two accounts And one I use to practice or use when some friends come over and the other to obtain
all the characters, spirits, so There is no worry.

Well that was bound to happen anyone expect bug free got a shocked. So I checked and my update had the Plant so I am happy.

It's because of things like this that I never do the update in the first day.

I will update my Switch and my games tomorrow.

reminds me of the error in Pokemon X Version / Y Version

Think I'll just wait for the fix. Been returning to Let's Go recently anyway.

@Urameshi @MatoFilipovic

Thank you for posting this. I had the same issue! I registered the game back in December. Just went through over a month's worth of emails and found the code! (Face palm) Wow...(Sigh)

@MatoFilipovic Try searching your email for “Piranha”. If not, if seen a few reddit guides on it

@Sihy
Sweet thanks!

@thesilverbrick Not a problem. I warned my kid about All-Star mode and he agreed w/ you, not playing that anyway. He did ask about Classic mode and I told him to have fun.

Meanwhile I'm still playing Eevee hoping they patch in normal controls for docked mode b/c the only way I can play is with the left Joycon in my right hand or 1 Joycon with both hands and that's getting old. I have 4 Joycons, and a faux Pro, why so torturous Nintendo?

@rjejr I couldn’t agree more about how awful the controls for Let’s Go are. It functions perfectly fine in handheld mode with two JoyCons, so why can’t they just use that same input method for docked mode?

@thesilverbrick My other son is only playing in handheld b/c the controls are so bad..

And really, as much as the motion sucks, and it does suck for any creature on the side my ball always goes to the other side, so I just run away from anything not in the middle, but I can live with that - it's not a glitch, it's a feature - I have a sense of humor, but the human hand isn't meant to work that way. And I could use a few more buttons, I like when my maps have their own button.

It's really preposterous when you think about it. I want to see a commercial for the game where a person playing in handheld mode "switches" to docked mode and then starts playing with only 1 Joycon while throwing the other Joycon in the trash. 😛

@Pichuka97,

So I remembered correctly! That this site doesn't report about that also shows how extremely biased they are towards the Switch.

Anyway: Fighters-pass owners should be very wary since the same could potentially happen with the other dlc characters!

Be safe and always keep a Checkpoint backup.