Nintendo's latest financial results show a company in surprisingly rude health, given that not so long ago the Wii U's dismal performance was the only thing making any headlines.
The big news is that Nintendo has adjusted its sales forecast for Switch, and is now expecting to sell 14 million units - rather than the 10 million originally projected - by the end of the fiscal year, bringing its total installed base to 16.74 million units. Should that be the case, it means the hybrid console will have outsold its predecessor in just 13 months.
In terms of software, 27.48 million Switch titles have been shipped to date and Nintendo predicts it will ship a further 50 million by the end of March 2018. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild is the console's biggest seller so far, with 4.7 million units shipped as of September 30th. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is second with 4.42 million, while Splatoon 2 is third with 3.61 million units.
The end result of this robust performance? Nintendo's coffers are looking very healthy indeed. ¥374 billion ($3.3 billion) has been accrued in revenue during in the six months ending September 30th, 2017 - that marks an increase of 173.4 percent over the same period in 2016. Net income has jumped 34.5 percent to ¥51.5 billion ($454 million). Nintendo's fiscal year forecast has been adjusted to reflect the increased hardware and software shipments. For this financial year, Nintendo has boosted its revenue forecast to ¥960 billion ($8.4 billion) - an increase of almost 30 percent - and it expects to make ¥85 billion ($749 million) in profit, a jump of almost 90 percent.
Such positive commercial performance has predictably had an uplifting effect on Nintendo's share value, which is now higher (¥42.87) than at any point since 2008 - the glory days of the Wii and DS.
[source gamesindustry.biz]
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These numbers are crazy impressive. Given the stock shortage and the time of year, I was expecting sales of around 6.5m.
Clearly, the Switch will ellipse the Wii U before its first anniversary.
Splatoon 2 is doing exceptionally well.
Anyone else remember the Switch being dead on arrival?
Came for the Nintendoomed. Instantly gratified.
Good hardware with good games and good marketing sells. Who woulda thunk it?
Love mine. Only other console I play at the moment is my N64.
Tell me again why Sony and Microsoft won't care about the hybrid market...
Pack it up Nintendo it's time to go 3rd party!
Also to note, the switch has sold 7.63 million units so far. Why wasn't this mentioned here? I saw it on Vooks.
16.74 million Switch's sold by March next year? Not going to happen. Impressive sales so far but what about next year? What are the big games, the one's that are system sellers? Wolfenstein 2, Kirby, Yoshi? I don't think so even though I would be interested, the general public won't. If Pokemon releases, that'll shift units. But I couldn't care less about that franchise.
It's great to have Nintendo doing well again. It had been a while.
Every time I play any other games I think to myself- this would be better on Switch. I just love this system.
Mario kart deluxe has almost outsold Zelda? Guess this doesn't include WiiU sales.
Still haven't bought a switch, so at least 1 more sale coming!!
Excellent news. Nintendo brought their A game with the Switch and it's paying off in spades.
@gcunit because what works for Nintendo doesn't mean it works for everyone else.
The vita, Neo Geo pocket is evidence of that.
Also getting anything near XB1/PS4 power in a hybrid is just not realistically possible.
MS need to concentrate on investing in hot single player games.
@123akis Ya, you'd think they'd mention how much it's sold so far. Very basic omission.
@BensonUii Yeah, its doomed, and doomsday starts November 10 =p
@SLIGEACH_EIRE you go on like Nintendo have already played there hand for 2018. Sales are fantastic. More software will be announced in due time.
Releasing MK8 deluxe was perfect. Once they get smash Bros on this thats another huge seller.
Great news for Nintendo! A solid start like this is gonna draw in more 3rd party support too! If Nintendo keep pushing out great titles on a steady pace like they have been, I have every expectation that these excellent sales will continue. Next year we will be seeing Kirby, Metroid, Pokemon, Fire Emblem, and who knows what else! Nintendo will keep talking about the winter releases for the next couple months, but right after the Holiday season get ready for more big announcements!
@SLIGEACH_EIRE They have sold 7.63 million units right up until end of September, on the strength of 2.9 million units July-September. They have upped their forecast from 10 million units in fiscal year 2018 (April 2017 - March 2018) to 14 million. If you combine that amount with the 2.74 million sold in March of 2017 you have 16.74 million in sales through to March 2018. I would say that is likely a conservative figure seeing as how Nintendo generally offers conservative targets. These targets have been surpassed with each new earnings report.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE The big system sellers are the games that are already on the console: Zelda BoTW, Mario Odyssey and Mario Kart 8. Most people don't buy a console for a single game - it's the cumulative effect of multiple games combined with strong positioning and confidence in the format to receive ongoing support that sell the console.
So Smash Bros won't sell systems on its own but it could be the thing that pushes someone who's saying today "I'd like a Switch for Mario Odyssey but I can't justify it for just that one game".
That is to say Zelda, Mario and Mario Kart will carry on being system sellers throughout the lifetime of the Switch.
I'm so happy to see the Switch is doing so great. After the disaster that was WiiU, Nintendo is right back on track.
@Savlep99 I corrected my mistake. I thought it was 4 instead of 3. Nothing major. And I disagree, Nintendo are very often overly optimistic with their figures. Even when Wii U was rolling off a cliff they had crazy figures. That were constantly revised downwards. The same with 3DS to a lesser extent.
@kobashi100 All three manufacturers seem to be focusing on different aspects in order to avoid competing with each other that directly, if you ask me.
Microsoft is focusing on developing an ecosystem focused on convenience and interconnectivity, on retro-compatibility and (now) on tech specs.
Sony is the jack-of-all-trades option: PlayStation gets all those online-multiplayer-focused titles while putting out lots of single-player games of their own.
Nintendo gets their own single-player titles too, with a couple of online and couch multiplayer exclusives. And you can take them on the go.
Personally, I really like they're trying to do their own thing. Makes the hardware worth owning.
It's been an awesome first year for the Switch. My library is already much larger than my Wii U library and it contains a really good mix of excellent single player and multiplayer games. Couldn't be happier. Can't wait to see what Nintendo have up their sleeves for 2018 and beyond.
No new 3ds numbers?? Wonder how the machine has been doing, if sales have taken a nosedive
@kobashi100 Mario Kart was a Wii U port that I already own. The same goes for BOTW and many others. Smash Bros. when it inevitably arrives is likely to be a DX version of the one on Wii U.
Pretty impressive, note at the same time in its lifespan the 3DS was at about 6.6 million even after its price cut. It's going to be interesting to see what happens when the system starts getting 2D Mario, Super Smash Bros and Pokemon.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE "If Pokemon releases, that'll shift units. But I couldn't care less about that franchise."
Considering you're talking about games that will move systems, what relevance is there about whether you're interested in the franchise?
@gcunit I think they have to take that line. They're locked into a straight life-or-death battle with each other and lack the resources or stomach to open a second front.
Especially now that Nintendo has built a formidable install base in that marketplace - attacking their position at this point in time would be a futile waste of focus and resources. They wouldn't make a dent and they'd be taking developers (and media attention) away from the battle they absolutely need to win (against each other).
For in particular Sony it's a real challenge for the future because, at some point in the next few years, Switch will build an install base in Japan bigger than the PS4 but with years of vitality before it.
@StuTwo
Don't try and be rational. Those who've been desperate for Switch to fail are flailing around for something to hide their disappointment with. So now it'll be "well, yeah, but it won't sell next year, what games will it have?" As easy as it is to answer by listing the cards Nintendo haven't played yet (Smash, Pokémon, Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, Mario Maker, Metroid, Donkey Kong etc.etc.) it may be more fun to watch them squirm.
@Mr_Pepperami I think it's more than fair to say that the days of the 3DS are numbered. Nintendo are clearly now looking at the Switch as their only system going forward. Though there are still games to come for the 3DS.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE and sold millions, the attach rate is ridiculous. Not being funny but you not being interested is irrelevant. I am talking about the wider markets. Sales show that people are buying these games.
@gcunit no joke but MS would have more success releasing specific software for switch over stepping into the hybrid market themselves.
@electrolite77 Pokemon and Animal Crossing will appeal to a very different demographic but they will be huge on Switch. As the console becomes cheaper it'll fill a lot more niche's - this thing will sell and sell for years to come... In every country in the world apart from Ireland.
I'm personally really excited about 2018. I think if Nintendo channels the energy behind Splatoon and ARMs - as they've hinted - they could end up providing some really special new games next year that we could never predict.
Honestly I can't believe that Nintendo's marketing department has, so far, done everything right. Aside from a few very minor things they've shown they've got a solid & coherent long term plan (and they've never had that before. Ever.).
@SLIGEACH_EIRE I disagree, Switch will easily hit that 16,000,000 by end of March.
You forget the main reason people buy a Switch....
Because their friends have them... And are having more fun as a result. Social aspects, local multiplayer. Also, none of us know the things that Nintendo hasn't announced. A Smash game is certain, Switch Fit is a definite to come. Remember 30 million Wii fit balance boards sold. Animal crossing pocket camp is hitting an average of 5 star reviews, (and a lot of them!) just in Australia...
The future is very very bright indeed. 😀
@electrolite77 I find it funny. People desperate to see it fail. Made all the doom and gloom predictions only to be so so wrong. Still don't want to admit they got it wrong though lol
I'm currently trying to convince my Wife to allow us to buy a Switch pre-Xmas now. I was wanting to wait for a price drop, but I'm finding it difficult to wait with Mario Odyssey having just released, and Skyrim on the horizon which my wife loves. Also DOOM. I have always loved DOOM.
My arguementd are that we don't need a Pro Controller right away, and she needs Skyrim to play when she goes on maternity leave next month 😀
@StuTwo @electrolite77 Or start spouting nonsense about how certain games are ports (especially those that had platforms added during development prior to release) and therefore don't count in their unique and arguably charming worlds of "my views equals reality".
@Damo At time of writing, the share price hasn't had a chance to react to this Financial Report... Just wait until the NYSE opens followed later by Tokyo Stock Exchange!
@kobashi100 I've thought about that before. I think it makes a lot of logical sense. Especially since Microsoft has absolutely no presence in Japan.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Only time will tell, but I would certainly bet the farm that Nintendo's targets will be met if not surpassed. With analysts predicting sales of between 18-22 million units to end March 2018 I firmly believe that Nintendo's 14 million figure is conservative. They've already sold 35% of that target without the holiday season which has shown in the past to amount to anywhere between 50-60% of fiscal year sales. Considering this they would have to take a severe nosedive come January to not sell through 14 million units. As a shareholder I do have my money where my mouth is, so now we play the waiting game.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Youre right about the games next year but you’re getting that the boost in sales around thr holiday season that all consoles get hasnt happened yet, switch sales will definitely reach that number by march because at least a few million units will sell around christmas time
@SLIGEACH_EIRE It's a good question. Mario Odyssey will have plenty of momentum going into 2018, but the system sellers slow down after that (even if the future slate of games still looks good). Dragon Quest XI would have been a system seller, if the release could have been at the same time as the Sony version. Maybe FFXV on the go will shift a few units. After that, we're waiting for Fire Emblem and Pokemon. Metroid Prime too, maybe. Oops. And Animal Crossing. And Smash. Maybe it's not so bad...
This could very well mean that Nintendo is holding a big franchise in their hands to push momentum forward in 2018, and haven't told anyone yet. Those numbers, just wow, what an incredible turnaround.
Does that 50 mil software number include only Nintendo games or all Switch games? Would seem a bit ambitious for only Nintenfo games as people start spenfing their money on 3rd party games like Doom and Skyrim.
Though if they have a Nintendo Direct in December and announce SSB Deluxe or SMM Deluxe for early March that would be a big help. Maybe Kirby or Yoshi in February?
Well whatever it's doing great and the console and games will continue to sell this holiday. Might have sold 3 more this week if the Target B2G1 sale didn't exclude Switch games.
@rjejr
"Might have sold 3 more this week if the Target B2G1 sale didn't exclude Switch games."
I saw that ad, it was a bummer when I discovered that Switch games weren't included. Perhaps it was too early for it to be included in deals like that.
Good news day for all switch owners, the better the switch does the better the support will be, the more switch owners will get to enjoy. Its like the polar opposite to the Wii U. Even better for those of us that skipped the Wii U I think we will get the best of its games though next year.
Nintendo hardware quarterly shipments / LTD sales comparison:
3DS Q1 2011: 3.61 million / 3.61 million (Feb/Mar launch)
3DS Q2 2011: 0.71 million / 4.32 million
3DS Q3 2011: 2.36 million / 6.68 million (price cut in August)
Wii U Q4 2012: 3.06 million / 3.06 million (Nov/Dec launch)
Wii U Q1 2013: 0.39 million / 3.45 million
Wii U Q2 2013: 0.16 million / 3.61 million
Switch Q1 2017: 2.74 million / 2.74 million (March launch)
Switch Q2 2017: 1.96 million / 4.70 million
Switch Q3 2017: 2.93 million / 7.63 million
Actually marketing a console and producing games for it equals great sales?! This idea seemed so foreign to Nintendo during the Wii U era.
@kobashi100
The Vita and Neo Geo Pocket were powerful handheld consoles that played 2nd fiddle to their more powerful TV based counteriarts. Ie the Neo Geo and PlayStation.
The Nintendo Switch on the other hand is the primary Nintendo console, playing 2nd fidecro nothing. That’s the main difference.
Why choose the Vita port when you can choose the better PS4 port? The Switch though is almostbas good as a modern TV based console but is portable also. Also the Nintendo Switch uses modern technology unlike the PS4. Things like optical media discs, HDD platter hard drives are old technology and those who keep using them will be left behind.
Hybrid consoles will one day be as powerful as the PS4 and then eclipse that. Only a fool would think otherwise. The tech is improving all the time. The Nintendo Switch is the early adopter to all this tech and in the future it’ll the mainstream and we will call consoles tethered to our televisions as retro or old fashioned.
@StuTwo "...this thing will sell and sell for years to come... In every country in the world apart from Ireland."
One of the few times I've genuinely lol'd at another user's post. Well done
Somehow I knew a certain someone would be on here, playing the role of wet dishrag.
In any case, I'm also interested in what Nintendo's post-holiday plan will bring. Looking at the backlog of titles releasing before EOY, there's more than enough to carry me to March already. But I suspect Nintendo will keep the pedal on the metal.
I told you the Switch was doomed. There's such a sparse line-up of games that I don't even know why anyone would buy such a system. Just buy an $800 gaming PC, it's actually worth your time and money. Not like the stupid Nintendo swaperoo or whatever the heck it's called.
The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess on Wii sold 4.52 million copies in its first 16 months (Nov 2006 to Mar 2008).
The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild on Switch sold 4.70 million copies in its first 7 months (Mar 2017 to Sep 2017). It will easily become the best selling Zelda SKU of all time. It's legs are incredible
Nintendo is in Rude health? Is that a UKism for "like totally sick bro!"?
Anyway: yay Nintendo!
We all know exactly who was saying "Switch is gonna tank so hard, even worse than Wii U". Seeing this news brings me so much joy because I know these particular individuals wanted the system to fail so hard. The goal posts will now be moved to selling more than 3DS.
Which, let's be honest, there would be no shame if Switch was not able to surpass 3DS- just out doing the N64 and SNES and maybe even NES would be enough... personally I think it will though, but whether it does or doesn't it's going to be an amazing system with lots of games and that cannot be taken away.
Nintendo always announce games late in their development cycle. Be assured, these sales will ensure 2018 has some great games from third parties, and Ninty will be working on some more gems for us. Switch is doing incredibly well, so hot right now, and Nintendo have proved the doomsayers wrong, good times!
So they went well beyond a home run and nailed a Grand Slam with the Switch. Very good news to hear!
Can't people just be happy about this without the whole stupid Nintendoomed thing.
@crimsontadpoles That's the normal people expectation. But apparently that mindset isn't allowed here.
Personally, I'm extremely happy Switch is doing well. It really is an amazing console despite what the haters say. It deserves to be appreciated for that. Not because it was made by Nintendo...
We hear all the time how the system will fail or how its momentum won't last, but some people seem to forget that even following the boom of Christmas, the potential for Nintendo IP on Switch (new and old) will continue to push the console. No other company has Nintendo's IP strength. And on a console that will get them all? That can fit anyone's needs (portable or stationary)? There isn't a doubt in my mind that Switch will outsell the Wii at some point. Some people just like to nitpick but the reality right now is the big picture.
Switch is going to become a trend all its own.
There will definitely be lots of surprises in 2018. Smash Deluxe will be out in Spring similar to Kart. I love Mario Odyssey (except for the forced motion controls using Pro/handheld -hoping for update to allow buttons for hat spin and hat thrown up above head). Well done Nintendo!
@SLIGEACH_EIRE really? Sales based on what game? How about Mario Odessey? This projection is for between now and the end of March. So the projection is mostly for Christmas sales. Obviously this is the first Christmas it's been out and Nintendo sells best at Christmas so for all intents and purposes it'll be the first Christmas for Mario Odessey, Zelda, & Splatoon 2.
@MoonKnight7 I wouldn't be surprised. Nintendo seems to be better prepared this time around. Especially when you look at the quick turnaround between announcements and releases.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
The salt in you is real. We get that you love your Wii U . You can't handle the fact that not only Wii U is dead but it's also being slaughtered by the Switch.
@MoonKnight7 Well it was too early, but it was also a bummer.
We have a Switch, but we only have Mario right now. I was thinking of a 3rd game to go with Mario + Rabbids and FEW when I finally found out no Switch games.
We do have a few games coming, Sonic Forces Nov 7 is ordered and Lego Marvel 2 is a probable pre-order for Nov 14, and XC2 on Dec 1. That probably is enough for 1 holiday.
I really wish I had the desire to debate/argue with @SLIGEACH_EIRE. But as @JaxonH said, the goal posts will.continue to be moved and they will never give Nintendo their due for seemingly figuring it out. Once again, it isn't about being a blind fanboy. But when you have absolutely nothing constructive or positive to add to the conversation, it comes off as really salty and miserable. And when you seem to do so, its really just backhanded, passive aggressive
@SLIGEACH_EIRE lol you are both the best and worst thing about the comments on this site. You really don't think Nintendo has more planned for next year? And come on, there aren't any system sellers?
Nintendo has released two of the best reviewed games of all-time this year: Super Mario and Zelda. This is on top of Splatoon 2 (huge in Japan) and Mario Kart (no one cares that it's a Wii U port, as most of us don't actually own a Wii U). Skyrim, Doom, and Wolfenstein 2 are on the way. Again, no one actually cares that these are ports, because it means Skyrim, Doom, and Wolfenstein 2 on the go, which has never been done before.
I guess you keep being you, but my March investment in Nintendo has more than doubled and I'm laughing all the way to the bank.
Nintendo Switch - Making gamers and investors happy.
Switch and Wii U sales are a little bit apples and oranges. We know that many families have been buying multiple Switches, I have never heard of anyone owning multiple Wii Us.
@drich255 I have two Wii Us. Just fyi.
@gcunit Nice! I love my Wii U. Anecdotally, though, many users on this site have mentioned owning multiple Switches. The use case has changed. The portability of the Switch gives it more of a reason to buy multiple consoles.
Just comparing sales numbers alone takes the narrative a bit out of context.
Regardless, it is still a great success for the Switch. And it doesn't change the fact that many did skip the Wii U.
BBC Radio 5 Live are talking about Switch right now.
Spent as much time talking about the 'failure' of the Wii U for some reason, but it got a few minutes coverage, which, given the audience, goes to show this thing is starting to percolate beyond the regular gaming audience.
@duhsoares21 It's so strange how I get a sense of "yay no more people can enjoy it" with that and skyrim, for the nintendo fans that don't PC game that didn't get to enjoy either game yet. I forget who, but someone wrote that Doom (2016) was the perfect nintendo game, as it felt like the inevitable conclusion of their "bah here's some story, now have some fun" ethos.
And compared to the over 100 million Wii sales, the Wii U absolutely did not sell well.
Nintendo haven't played their cards for 2018 yet, that much is obvious so anyone predicting next year's sales falling off is being a bit foolish. We've seen a small snippet of what's coming with Yoshi and Kirby but that's it. The Pokemon and Metroid teases were really just to let us know they're in development. One may still arrive next year but it's doubtful. Regardless, they still have loads to reveal and I'm confident we'll be finding out some of this very soon in a November Direct. Non traditional new IP, long forgotten IP, and more big blockbusters. 2018 will be the year Switch trounces the competition,Im confident of that. I'll throw my hat in and say 30 million plus Switch's sold by the end of 2018.
@OorWullie I'd have said it's unlikely but if they manage to sell 16-17 million by March 2018 then 30 million by the years end seems pretty reasonable.
A price cut alone would probably be enough to get them there (as would Pokemon...) but I think it'll be a more exciting year than that.
I think it can meet those projections No doubt the Switch will sell well over the holidays. I'm expecting like 5-6 million, which would put the system anywhere between 12.63 and 13.63 million. Just needs to sell an additional 3 million in January-March.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Nintendo doesn't announce all their games at once.
That 7.63 million is actually more than I thought it would be. I was expecting 7 million total.
This is sorta bittersweet. I adore the switch but the WiiU was a fantastic system and deserved better. Nonetheless I'm glad Nintendo is doing so well.
@StuTwo I probably should have said by the end of the next fiscal year but aye if Pokemon and/or a price cut comes next year then 30 million by the end of 2018 is definitely possible . Either way I think Nintendo have a few huge surprises in store for us next year and going by Koizumi's comments the other day, it sounds like we can expect a lot of 3rd party content too. The 2nd year of any consoles life is where it really comes into its own so exciting times are ahead.
Just like a boss:
@StuTwo I can agree with this. Well said.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE If you're the one who decides, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe won't sell 4.42 million copies.
This idea that Nintendo has nothing in 2018 outside of Kirby Star Allies, Fire Emblem, Kirby, and maybe Pokemon is ridiculous.
Nintendo isn't Sony; they don't typically announce games that will be released many, many years later. Zelda is probably the only exception to that rule due to how ambitious those games are.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE The writing is on the wall with this one... Even if they don't hit 16 million by the end of March they will easily come very close. The stock shortages are pretty much a non-issue at this point, and the holiday season with Mario Odyssey fresh in people's minds will easily sell 4-5 million units.
As much as I hate the wii u it's still kinda sad knowing that the Switch will have achieved more in about a year than the wii u could in 4 & 1/2 years.
@Cathousemaster I'm not sure if the 4.7M include the sales for Wii U. On Wii U, the game has sold more than 1M copies.
Switch sales are definitely performing beyond my expectations too! I also originally agreed with the 10 million tops/1st year projection.
...Although honestly, I have to admit I'm at a loss to explain the boost. Yes, if you make good games they will come and all that, but I still haven't seen more than one person using one in public since launch, frequently taking public transport with diverse population in the Washington DC Metropolitan Area. There were almost no system demo kiosks in stores this time around. I don't see any ongoing major ad campaigns to speak of.
The only way it could continue on towards critical mass like this is internet word of mouth, which is often unreliable... But it sure as hell worked for Nintendo this time around!
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Yeah, almost 17 million sold through (not just shipped) within the first year is a pipe dream, due to fierce competition with Apple over supplies. But over 10 million sold through is virtually guaranteed at this point. It's definitely a more optimistic situation than realistically thought earlier this year. Third parties really can't ignore Nintendo now.
It's crazy what a little software support will do. Now how about a proper console version of Animal Crossing?
@PlywoodStick There's been fairly frequent commercials for Super Mario Odyssey, FE Warriors, and NBA 2K18 the past few weeks. There's a new commercial that features Xenoblade 2, FE Warriors, and Skyrim as well that should be airing over the next couple months.
@-DG The ongoing tech material stock issues will make the chronic NS stock shortages resurface big time for the holidays. There's going to be millions and millions of people who will want an NS and won't and can't get one this holiday season. It's not just one isolated issue concerning the NS either, there are others such as NAND flash and HBM2 VRAM shortages in the PC hardware market, too. It's a pretty big deal.
@IceClimbers SMO I figured (although that only just released), haven't seen the FE Warriors or NBA 2K18 ones. It would be amazing for XB2 to get one, on primetime if possible. Even then, though, that's only a few games. Nintendo doesn't go ham on the ads like they used to.
@PlywoodStick
I don't know about sell-through, but I am very, very confident that Nintendo will reach their 16.7 million Switch shipment forecast by March 2018.
@PlywoodStick I don't think it's optimistic at all. It's realistic. The Switch sold 7.63 million units as of September 30th, 2017. That's before the release of Super Mario Odyssey, and that's about 1.09 million units per month. There are 6 months from October 2017 to March 2018. If the average sales per month is the same, the Switch will sale 6.36 million more units. The total will be 14.17 million units. If you takes the holiday season into account, 16.74 million units is easily within reach.
Wasn't it something like 2 million copies of BOTW for Nintendo to break even on the game? So to combine the sales of the Switch and Wii U editions, not counting the DLC, it's safe to say they've made a tidy little packet on that game.
As for Mario Kart, I don't think it would have cost them much to build the Battle Mode tracks and pay a team to up-res the game, to sell another 4.4 million on top of the 8+million on the Wii U, easy money!
Both these titles are bound to be evergreens as well.
Who knows what 2018 holds though bar a couple of titles - recently they've been more about what games are coming out in our immediate future rather than what's further down the line.
Tbh i couldn't give a toss if Ninty sold 50 mill or 15 mill first year. What i will say is Ninty done good, a pat on the back from me
@the8thark If you look at the home console market, sure, because that's shrinking into oblivion. However, stationary systems will always be more powerful than portable ones. NS isn't even remotely close to PC, and the gap is going to exponentially grow by the end of next year with 7nm chips, multi chip CPU/GPU's, and 10+ TFLOPS on GPU's becoming the norm. Meanwhile, NS will be stuck on a SoC with 1 TFLOP. To think Nintendo can close the tech gap is delusional. The game library and portability are what the NS have going for it- those are it's strengths, so those should be it's focus.
@westman98 @NinNin The iPhone X initial run sold out within 10 minutes. That's just one product out of many by which Apple is competing hard with Nintendo for parts to replenish their stock, as well. As a result, it's a pipe dream for the NS to hit 16-17 million units sold through (not just shipped) by five months from now. (Not six months, October is over and SMO released near the end of the month.) That's more than doubling the current sell-through number, with the historically lower selling Jan-Mar time frame at the end of it. That number would also have to assume Nintendo didn't have so much part stock competition.
10 million is a given, 12 million is highly likely, 14 million is fairly likely, but past 16 million is pushing it. Not for lack of interest, though. Just for lack of supply.
@WiltonRoots As for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, they needed to port the game. The Switch can't run Wii U games, so it's not just increasing the resolution, but you're right that it wouldn't cost much.
@PlywoodStick It's six months because the Switch sold 7.63 millions units as of September 30th, 2017. The sales is probably about 8.7 million units by now. It's a given that the Switch will sell at least 14 million units by March 2018. I don't see why you think over 16 million units is unrealistic. Anyway, we'll see it in time.
@PlywoodStick
Nintendo has already shipped 7.6 million Switch, which means they want to ship another 9.1 million from October 2017 to March 2018.
I could easily see Nintendo shipping 6.5 - 7.0 million Switches this holiday quarter, and the remaining 2.1 to 2.6 million during the first three months of 2018.
Still 200 points (34%) lower than the highs of 2008 though. I’d argue 2007 and 2008 were the Wii and DS glory years.
I'll tell you why the Switch will fail. Because it's just a tablet!!! Just a f***king tablet!!!
Nintendo is doomed, btw, they should release a doom demo for testing.
Nintendo’s in beast mode. BotW is selling crazily well and has less than a year in the market, Odyssey will sell crazily good and the Switch will sell more than the Wii U in a single year.
If the first year has been this good, I can’t wait to see how the future shows!
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Moaning, whining, negativism, pessimism >>> all these words define you everytime you post, even on articles that suggest how succesful the Switch is.
It’s a great time to be a Nintendo fan! And even better if you’re a stockholder! As far as the naysayers, it’s best to read and move on. They’ve been wrong since day 1 yet act as if they haven’t been. That humble pie must taste good!
@drich255 two WiiU owner here. And I also bought one for my brother.
Happy to see the Switch and Nintendo doing so well. Always room for improvement in terms of quality of software/services for its customers and hopefully the deluge of cash will go towards that. I optimistically predicted the Switch would outsell the Wii U in its first year and will be amazing if this does indeed happen.
@westman98 @NinNin Another 1 million units since end of September sounds about right. (Though most of the sales incentive is at the end of October, not the beginning.) Again though, Apple and other major competitors are going all in to replenish stock for the holidays, too. There's no way to more than double the current amount of NS consoles shipped by now until March. The holidays are going to present a production crunch with too much demand in too little time, and millions of potential buyers won't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting an NS until next year, which will still have the ~1 million/month trickle limit. (Don't forget the Chinese New Year holiday season in between January and February, the workers aren't machines.) Unless Nintendo has some hidden stockpile (which would beg the question, why not use it to alleviate the chronic stock issues), it's physically impossible to force an exponential growth rate of production like that under current conditions.
@Ryu_Niiyama We need Nintendolife to do a poll. I am certain there are way more users with multiple Switches than users with multiple Wii Us.
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