Plenty of Switch owners are very excited about Super Mario Odyssey, and it's a game that's amused the internet for some rather random reasons, one of them being a semi-nude Mario.
Now the chatter is around its age rating in Japan, which rather passed us by when we reported on the game's file size from the official Japanese website. It's a CERO B game, which is bucking the trend of mainline Mario platformers being CERO A.
While CERO A is 'content suitable for all ages', the B equivalent is recommended for ages 12 and up, though younger ages are at a parent's discretion.
Contains some content parents may not like for children under the age of 12. May contain mild sexual content, some violence, mild horror content or infrequent use of profanity.
Joking aside, it may not be the shirtless Mario that has caused this; interpreted violence or 'mild horror' could be a factor in the game. In Europe this has a PEGI 7 rating ("contains some possibly frightening scenes or sounds") and in North America it seems to have been given ESRB 10+ ("may contain more cartoon, fantasy or mild violence, mild language and/or minimal suggestive themes").
Super Mario Odyssey may have a little more edge than previous entries, or perhaps ratings agencies are a little unsure of the Cappy possession ability. Either way, Nintendo will hope it doesn't affect sales; based on how many parents we've seen buying Call of Duty for their little 'uns over the years, we're thinking any impact will be minimal.
With thanks to Spoony_Tech for the heads up.
[source nintendosoup.com, via destructoid.com]
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"infrequent use of profanity"
It's a-me Mario ! Here we f***ing go ! Yah ah !
Incidentally, Nintendo of Australia specifically requested a PG rating for the game for "Mild themes and violence, Online interactivity", but the board thought that this was a little too harsh, so they dropped "themes" from the rating, resulting in a PG for "Mild violence, Online interactivity". Themes is a very vaguely applied term and can be used to apply to problematic social issues (family breakdown, bereavement, substance abuse, scenes of threat or menace, or just good old scat humour.
The likely reason for the CERO B rating is due to violence, which is surprising as they are generally much more lenient concerning cartoon violence.
@neufel Exactly what i was thinking
Marios Nips are not kid friendly.
Header caption: "In this game, plumbers really don't wear ties". Although isn't Mario no longer one?
But I also reckon it's about "mild horror". I mean, remember that centipede-esque thing from the trailers. Yikes.
@sillygostly "substance abuse" - as in, enough to start seeing and wearing sentient hats?
Thirty years on mushrooms, what do you expect...
EDIT: wait, should be thirty-two if SMB hails from 1985. Me and maths...
Wonder if the relatively realistic New Donk City has anything to do with it. That might seem silly, but I wouldn't be surprised if it affected someone's judgment.
That t-rex has got to be terrifying for little kids. Especially the one slumbering in the dark forest. Even creeped me out a bit, seriously. xD
Poor Luigi, he didn't manage to scare anyone and get an horror tag even with two games filled with ghosts while Mario just had to go shirtless for do the trick XD;;;
It's because the rating system has become much more skittish in recent years. Largely because people like to pick everything apart and parents CAN NOT be trusted to explain to their children the difference between fantasy and reality. Largely because parents don't parent anymore. They just give their kid a toy and call it good.
Possibly because of these :
1. Shirtless Mario with nipples.
2. Ghost Town aka Bonneton. Cappy / Tiara are Ghost.
3. Marriage / Wedding theme. Something about Marriage here...
4. The violence level maybe somewhat like Ratchet & Clank.
5. Some dark places.
Btw, Super Paper Mario Wii should be rated E10+ / CERO B / 12 due to Creepy World of Nothing / River Twygz Bed.
Parental guidance: too many magic mushrooms
I wonder did Nipplegate play a role in its rating.
Shirtless Mario not suitable? He's entitled to go topless on the beach, like the rest of us!
@sillygostly
Something irrelevant between CERO A and CERO B that I found.
Yokai Watch with "Ghostly" theme, Skeletons, Eerie creatures rated CERO A while some old ps2 games that I found was K-1 series was rated CERO Everyone or equal with CERO A which it should be CERO B due to violence. Weird.
Cappy is kind of scary if you think about it. If you take control of a guy, what happens to his mind? Is he watching through his own eyes but unable to intervene? Or is that his consciousness is now dead and we are using his corpse as a puppet? And even if it's just like he instantaneously falls asleep when we put Cappy on him and wakes up when we take it off, is that really okay?
Could well just be the whole 'forced marriage' thing. Not a very child friendly subject if they were to start thinking about it/asking questions. Even though its a human and the king of the koopas, or maybe because of that. And they've upped the drama with all of that too... 'MARIOOOO!' She's clearly in 'peril'
@dystome Exactly, forced possession and forced marriage. Along those lines I'd say.
@Fuz you just sold me on buying a copy of that game now
Same rating as Mario + Rabbids Kingdom where he is "gunning" down enemys.
I am excited...I think....
I remember buying Sonic Rush Adventures which was rated a 12+
https://www.gamefaqs.com/ds/939095-sonic-rush-adventure/images/186772
Apparently there was bad language in the game, although I don't remember seeing any. What's odd is the current PEGI says it's a 3 for "Violence that is set in a cartoon, slapstick or child like setting"
http://www.pegi.info/en/index/global_id/505/?searchString=sonic+rush
Are Mario's nips hard?
@Dev
Hm....
Same case as Danny Phantom, eh ?
Remember that Cartoon from Nickelodeon by Butch Harman ?
That Teen boy can possess someone after being Ghostified by accidentally.
I found the dinosaur quite scary (a 36 year old man)
@neufel
"Your Princess is in another castle"
"You f***ing c*** Toad"
Maybe it's because you can possess a person with Cappy and jump off a building killing him.
Hmmm... I wonder what Octopath Traveler's rating will be...
It's probably because of the realistic-looking T-Rex.
@Nincompoop
Probably Teen / CERO B / 12 for Octopath.
Bikini Peach confirmed.
It would've been more scary for Mario to have no nipples. Now Mario will never get his decency back!
After playing Mario + Rabbids, I'm struggling to imagine the plot being resolved in any other way than Peach seeing off Bowser with a shotgun to the face.
I'm not sure how that would square with the ratings boards.
@Nincompoop Don't know! "Go pleasure yourself" certainly amused me.
@MagicEmperor Yeah... and there's a few "Stupid Wh*re" insult in the game. It's certainly not as innocent as Bravely Default.
@invictus4000
Or... Crossdressing Mario.
Mario with Wedding gown.
Nah it must be the creepy cap that made them scare to include the Cero A.
Guess Mario topless is too scary for young kids to see.
I saw the Oddesey trailers having the rating shown. It's funny how in Australia, the Mario + Rabbids game where Mario has a gun is rated G but a Mario game involving possession and marriage is rated PG. Makes almost no sense with Rabbids since the first few Rabbids games on the Wii were PG but then again, what are you gonna do?
Can we expect anything like Shadow the Hedgehog's intro? XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPWrHPNekvE
I don't think the elevated rating will do much. The last few Star Wars films have been rated PG-13 here in the US and parents STILL took their kids to see it.
Ex plumber
Subheadline of the week for sure XD
I agree, shirtless Mario IS a minor horror element.
All joking aside, I don't see the rating putting a dent in sales at all.
No way!
We're actually getting something that's beyond E rating. I didn't think too much of it with the E10+ ESRB rating but now there's something up and I want to know what it is.
I should note Mother 2's Japanese release had Ness naked in a scene and yet got a CERO A in the WiiU and New 3DS re-releases. It couldn't be Mario's nipples.
Actually, I think the semi-realistic looking New Donk City and your ability to 'possess' some of it's photo-realistic looking citizens in doing things, possibly against their sanity, has a creepy side to it.
The shirtless Mario isn't a problem, just like shirtless Link wasn't. That's just the internet going crazy about things.
speaking of possession, will Ron ever do a part two to the piece he wrote after E3? I thought it was really funny.
Perhaps he runs around in an increasingly dirty vest and trousers combo. Yippee ki yay mother plumber.
Nah.
It's just the Boos. Boo is undead so "horror".
"Mario is a kids game"
Yeah, right.....
@Anti-Matter Just looked it up. I'm surprised that Super Paper Mario got an E! The people who rated Super Paper Mario E did not play chapter six...
@TheSpeedyMouse
Don't you mean chapter seven? Or are you referring to the World of Nothing?
Just for comparison.
LEGO CITY UNDERCOVER Switch / Wii U was rated E10+ / CERO B / 7.
It rated CERO B due to Cartoon Violence, Semi Nudity (Bare chested LEGO), Mild Language, Crude Humor, Criminal theme.
Hmm, must be a edgy Mario-game then...
@PigmaskFan Six is the world of nothing. Seven is the overthere.
Oh, so this game gets a ratings bump, but "Super Mario 3D World," where Mario blatantly looks up Peach's dress in the opening cinematic, doesn't?
@neufel I created an account for this site just to like this comment.
@chefelf I love you too
So can my 5 year olds play this game? I am totally fine with them seeing a Boo or a shirtless Mario. I just want to know if they're old enough to handle the mechanics. Anyone have any recommendations?
@chefelf There's an easy mode where you can't fall especially for that so I'd say probably yes ?
Plus, there's that 2 players mode where player 2 acts as Cappy the hat.
@neufel Great. Thanks so much! My kids (and me) are going to love it!
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