After some early listings popped up online, Nintendo has confirmed and unveiled details on a dual pack for Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, very much following in the footsteps of its predecessors. In addition to that dual pack there will - once again - be 'Fan Editions' with SteelBooks in Europe.
For starters, the dual pack is exclusive to Amazon in the US, bringing with it a price tag of $79.99USD; you can pre-order it here.
In Europe the dual pack comes with download codes for 50 potions in each game.
The European fan packs, as expected, come as solo games with their own SteelBooks.
Are any of you Pokémon fans going to target these special editions? You have a bit of time to decide ahead of release on 17th November.
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Clearly milking Sun and Moon for all they're worth before we get the Switch Pokémon game next year.
50 potions.
Again, why? Why do they insist on these pitiful item rewards in-game for buying dual-pack versions?
Fan Edition of Ultra Moon for me.
Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvDtFNTzNSk&feature=youtu.be
Until we see more footage or details, this still just seems like a glorified DLC expansion pass
And yet there are still no noteworthy details about the game. I fear that these are going to be painfully "samey".
I've noticed some places are still referring to these cover Pokemon as Solgaleo and Lunala when it actually looks like they're new forms of Necrozma, following a similar idea to what they done with Kyurem.
50 Potions? Well call me Sal and throw me in the fire! I gotta get me a Pokemons game right now! /s
Looks nice but I'm still unsure on the game.
@Tsurii But its not 1996 anymore, the internet is a thing nowadays!
We hardly know anything about them and shall already preorder? I'm in! In fact, I already preordered. Weeks ago! Won't change the preorder, though. Hate steelboxes. In which world are they better than the standard boxes?
I'm gonna get at least one of the 2 of these. I always do. But nothing I've heard about USUM is remotely enough to make me hyped or interested. Let alone hyped enough to want to buy both games.
I've got the national Pokedex done on the bank. I have every Pokemon released to date. I'm just hoping for a return of the battle frontier, move tutors, and better multiplayer support. What good is being able to have a status message of "accepting battle requests anytime" if you can't see the requests unless you're not busy AND cannot post the rules you want?
Eh, I think after Sun I'm finally ready for a break having played consecutively since B&W 2. Just not enough to keep me interested in turn based RPGs right now, they make me sleepy.
Given up on my 3DS now the Switch is out so I actually won't be preordering any edition of these games. These will be the first main series Poke games that I miss.
Even though I still love the Pokémon franchise, these may be the very first main series titles I'm skipping ever since the I started getting into the series. Don't get me wrong, I still love the series to death, but with every main series game my enjoyment has gone down a bit more. I loved SoulSilver, I loved White, and I loved White 2. Y was great too, but didn't hook me in the same way. Omega Ruby just did not grab me and I stopped playing after finishing the Delta episode, and with Sun, even though I enjoyed it thoroughly, for one reason or another I just stopped after the Elite 4.
I still love the series, but after my lukewarm experience with Sun I'm not sure I should dive back again right away. Sometimes absence does make the heart grow fonder. Not to mention, with both Miitopia, Metroid: Samus Returns and the two Bayonetta amiibo right around the corner I think I have enough stuff to spend my money on in the near future. I'm sorry Pokémon, but I'm afraid I won't be catching them all this time around.
(Also, seriously though, is it just me or are these titles suffering from a SEVERE lack in promotion?)
@Tsurii Yes and unfortunately they are still using that archaic, 20 year old plan. It's not just Nintendo's fault, the fans are the ones who keep buying these minor rereleases.
@Ichiban Then how about black and white 2 from 2012? Or if that doesn't count, Platinum from 2009?
The Internet was already a thing there.
But seriously they have done this with every single gen except XY.
It's not like this is a problem in any way either.
50 potions?!? no way! Where can I pre-order?!?
TAKE MY MONEY!!
I'll most likely buy one of these, but I want some information. Come on, show us a new Alolan form or something. At least try to get some hype started. Do we get a better way to get Pokémon to level 100? Will the PSS be back, or will the Festival Plaza at least be less annoying? Give us something, guys.
The knowledge that mainline Pokémon games are coming to the Switch completely took these games off my radar, especially since they've shown next to nothing of these games in terms of new content (Necrozma fusions of Solgaleo and Lunala aren't exactly worth $40 apiece). I imagine I might pick one version up at some point, but these might be the first Pokémon games that I skip at launch.
@TommiKinder And why is that a Problem. If you don't want it, then don't buy it.
So, why do you care?
@DragonEleven Well, the Pokémon Company themselves have alluded to them looking like Solgaleo and Lunala. I'm assuming, like you pointed out, a fusion between the two and Necrozma.
@Kirgo Yeah, the backlash on this confuses me a bit. I wonder if it is all because people just wanted it for the Switch instead.
I've still never played a Pokemon game. Which one should I start with if I wanted to change that?
@ZanderShepherd I really recommend you that if you feel that way. I skipped the DS generation of pokemon games, and when I returned to the franchise with Pokemon Y, I had a blast with it. I had 3 times as much to discover than the people that played each entry, and the innovation was so much more notable. I'm going to skip this entry too.
Perhaps this time they fixed that horrible experiencie experiment where you get less experience the higher your level is and the lower the other pokemon level is.
It was a nightmare leveling in this games something past lvl40, which makes breeding dragons and most of gen 6 mons a chore. I hope they also give more options to the battle restaurant so I can level up there, that thing was the most intelligent thing Gamefreak did in X/Y, it is the sole reason I have a living dex in that gen.
@GravyThief
X or Y would be good. Or if you like to go hardcore route, you could download original red or blue from virtual console.
Holy crap! I actually got a pre-order in of a Nintendo limited edition product. This never happens!
@GravyThief I think the latest versions are as good as any. Quite a few quality of life improvements over the old, and it's not like you'll be missing out on story or anything.
Yeah, pretty sure I'll still be skipping these. I'll make up my mind when they share some actual details but I haven't played any of the Pokemon "sequel games" since Emerald for GBA and I doubt I'll start now.
I want to know more about the game before I pre-order. Loved Sun & Moon, but if it's just more of the same with hardly any differences, then I might just pass.
@Kmno I doubt they will change the experience curve system. Mechanics like that stay the same for an entire generation (Gen 5 used this same system). I hate to say it, but you're likely going to be stuck with slow leveling up at least until Gen 8.
Pretty hard to get hyped for this when the original Sun & Moon, which I really liked, have barely had time to breathe.
I love how so many are writing them off when we know next to nothing about them. They don't come out until November, that's enough time for a direct outlining exactly what's new.
Nope. I've been learning my lesson - Special editions nowadays are nothing but glorified cash grabs. Fire Emblem Fates was the breaking point for me - I barely check the art book, and I was stressed trying to get preorder one and they were so expensive that there were units avaliable one or two months down the road.
I cancelled my Zelda BoTW special edition due to the same - and its still available at my local store due to price.
I'll stick to the normal edition, which shouldn't be so much of a cash grab (considering this is the third version of the games, of course).
I think I'm fine with just one version.
Ow, my wallet. These will be like gold dust so collectors need to go for all three right away. Hell of a hit.
@GravyThief I would say the remakes. Or X/Y. The remakes would be Fire Red/Leaf Green, Heart Gold/Soul Silver, and Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire.
Gold/Silver are sequels to Red/Blue and OR/AS even act as a sequel to X/Y. I'd say those are the best the series has to offer. Diamond and Pearl are also great too though... I realize I might not have helped a whole lot because I just gave you 5 games instead of one... lol.
Can we get some actual info on these games already?
I think we are judging these games too quickly. All we know right now is it's an Alternate Timeline, Necrozma is merging with Solgaleo and Lunala, and there's a Pikachu spot for some reason.
Besides, I liked the Alola Region so I'm happy to see it get more support.
Pokémon Sun - Moon didn't keep my interest, me and my friends all ended up going back to playing X&Y and Ruby / Sapphire remakes.
So most likely I'll be skipping out on ultra Sun & Moon. ☀️ 🌙
They look nice, but I doubt that I'll bother with the steel cases. Regular cases are fine for me.
Plus, we know almost nothing about these games. It seems silly to me to preorder now when we know almost nothing about them.
@GravyThief
My picks for a brand new Pokémon player in this day and age are these below
If you want to go a little bit old school but want better graphics get
Pokémon Fire Red / Leaf Green for the GBA
Or
Pokémon Heart Gold / Soal Silver on the DS
If you don't care about a classic experience just dive straight into Pokémon X&Y for the 3DS, X&Y is a good game for beginners.
Even for me going back to the original GameBoy games is hard to do. The original Pokémon red and Blue on the Gameboy have not aged well, and unless you have nostalgia for them I think it would be hard for a new player to get into them.
@Meaty-cheeky @-DG @roadrunner343 @Justifier thanks everyone. I like the idea of playing a remake. I recognise more of the older Pokemon, but it'd be nice to play a game that's a bit more modern. I might give fire red/leaf green a whirl, which will tie in nicely with the Everdrive GBA I should be receiving soon.
@GravyThief I got my start with Red/Blue, but Gold/Silver is my favorite gen - so I can understand the appeal of the older Pokemon. Perhaps the Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire would be a good starting place then? They have most of the modern quality of life stuff, but with more of the older Pokemon.
@GravyThief Good choice. If I had to choose one game for a new player who was interested more in where the series began, Fire Red would be the way to go. If you like that game, I'd say jump into the Gold/Silver remake next. Gold/Silver are regarded as the best in the series by most.
Uh... "the dual pack is exclusive to Amazon in the US" "In Europe the dual pack comes with" so is it exclusive or not?
@Luna_110 In this version's defense, though, the "special edition" costs the same as the regular editions (assuming you buy both Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon), and so you're essentially getting the steel case for free. I wouldn't call this a cash grab.
That said, I totally hear you on other games, though. I already regret buying the special edition of Breath of the Wild.
@kamifox1 In the US you can only buy the dual pack on Amazon. In Europe you can buy it anywhere. Not sure what's confusing you.
@thesilverbrick The way it was written made it sound like it was exclusive to the US but in Europe, you got stuff with that exclusive item. lol. "In the US, it's exclusive to Amazon" would've been better.
@kamifox1 Ah, I see it now. Yeah, it's a bit confusing if you read it that way.
@GravyThief
With Pokemon you can start with any main series game.
If you like retro you can't go wrong with Pokemon Yellow. If you can get hold of it Pokemon Soul Silver is probably the best in the series. If you have a New 3DS get Pokemon Sun. Old 3DS, Pokemon Y.
@Kirgo You raise some good points. But just because they can doesn't mean that they should. I've been waiting for the day when TPC stop with the dual release Pokemon titles & embrace the internet to fill in any gaps needed otherwise. I'm not a Pokemon fan myself, but man I hate seeing you guys get taken for a ride.
@Ichiban The thing is just that this doesn't hurt anyone.
Some people want an additional version and some don't (enough were disappointed about not having them for XY and many were anticipating Ultra Sun/Moon long before they were announced). Some people buy these versions and others don't.
In most cases I don't buy these Pokemon editions either, but I don't see the harm of them existing.
To each their own, that is all.
Just one version for me. It'll probably be Ultra Sun, but I need more details first.
Also, it's not THAT unusual for the third/direct sequel/follow-up/what-have-you third game to release just a year after its predecessors. Timelines for the Pokémon series show that it's been done before.
I started with X&Y and they were pretty good but they're way too easy. I've had a lot of fun with Sun & Moon and love all the little improvements and even finished the dex, but seriously, there's no draw to these games when they've given nearly zero information. There is potential, but I'll remain cautious/skeptical for now...
People complaining about having not enough info about the "new" games...
Here, have a made up summary
*The gameplay will be the same: go to town to town and defeat gym leaders (or whatever they will call them), and finish the game by beating E4. The post game will contain another boring fetch quests done for Looker. And maybe a Battle Tower equivalent.
*The story will be the same: you are a fresh 10 or so yo trying to beat the Gym leaders while journeying on the islands. All the other events serve for decorative purposes (or to add more fetch quests to make the gameplay longer and to trick you to think that it isn't linear). They will also throw something about dimensions/multiverses/Ultra Beasts, maybe add more flying tentacle ppl to cover the fact that they have no plot.
*The structure of the game will be the same, with some minor graphical enhancement like some petals falling etc: the game will struggle at multi battles, online mode will remain in this plaza because the game can't handle having an overworld and online features at the same time, the textures will still look dated, and the greatly restricted linear gameplay will stay. Oh, and no camera movement - the game simply cannot render so much stuff at the given time. No 3D as well.
*They will enhance minor features which doesn't improve the gameplay, and people quicky forgot about them: pokemon photography, more stuff at Amie-thing, greater Poke Pelago (aka your usual waiting smartphone app will be now in beta version), more tutorials, more stiff -uncanny valley like - cutscenes.
*On the positive side, they may actually update the pokedex, so more new regional monsters will roam around. And since they decided to release GS on VC, perhaps 2nd gen will get Alola forms too (seriously, the higly advertised Alola forms were a let down).
Hey, it will be still better than getting your Pokemon Z's unfinished plot shoved into SuMo ;P
@DragonEleven The difference is that, Kyurem keeps design intact, only borrowing from Resh/Zekr parts.
Here, Lunala & Solgaleo are almost unchanged, just boosted with Necrozma's parts. I tend to support the teory that states they are Ultra Lunala/Ultra Solgaleo.
On the article:
I don't understand the appeal of steel boxes. Well, maybe if they were looking nice and detailed, making them a nice decoration (aka, not pokemon steel boxes). Slaping an art on a steel box doesn't move me. The item is largely waste of a shelf space. I got one and I regret that. But at least it came with a cheap toy.
And 50 potions is a joke. The games are so easy now, that you don't even need any potion in your backpack most of the time. Pokeballs would be slighty better.
A small artbook, a figure, some stickers, maybe a keychain... an actual manual? That would be better than some nonexistent useless digital stuff and a box... which is also useless.
@roy130390 exactly what I did and I'm so into Pokémon now. I actually went Red > Yellow > Alpha Sapphire > Y > Sun.
Tried Black and Black 2 and I was like "who the hell are these other Pokémon?!" ...and gave up. I am just stuck on the original 151.. call me a creature of habit I guess.
I'm into Pokémon now as much as I was when it first came out starting with Red.
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