
A little while ago we shared news of Cemu, a functioning Wii U emulator. Early doors it could barely boot up the opening artwork of a game, and the slow nature of progress on such projects points to it being many months (maybe years) away from being functional in a meaningful way. It's less a threat to Nintendo's intellectual property and more a hobby for some who enjoy a challenge.
Well, it seems the project is making some progress - based on videos of a recent 1.1.0 update, at least; we appear to have the first playable game - Shovel Knight. That's not really a surprise considering the humble requirements it has of the system's capabilities, and unlike a standard PC version of the game the Cemu emulation struggles with juddering movement and a lack of sound.
Beyond that progress is still largely limited to "now loads menus" or "is slightly more visible". Case in point are the following examples of Splatoon and Super Mario Maker, which launch but aren't playable in any way.
As we highlighted the last time we posted about Cemu, it's no legitimate threat to the Wii U; a little like homebrew efforts on the 3DS it's a niche interest. Besides, the leader of this small-scale project said a while ago that it's closed source for a host of reasons, with one being that opening the project up to the wider web could see it used for rather grubby purposes.
But of course there are other concerns as well, like development suddenly focusing on a direction which is not favorable to the original intentions of the emulator. Example: Focus on hacky solutions to get games into playable state earlier. I can see this happen in a open-source environment more likely, because piracy can become the main source for development motivation. Another example: Splatoon is moving towards playability fast, but online features are of low priority to avoid people using the emulator to cheat in online-play and ruin the experience for everyone. With open-source code there is no easy way to steer the development focus away.
It's interesting to see projects like these emerge, once again demonstrating how curiosity and some coding ability can see some spend a lot of time on difficult tasks with little end-game other than "because we can". Cemu isn't likely to disrupt the Wii U in any meaningful way, but it's intriguing to see how difficult it is to emulate Nintendo's box of tricks.
[source neogaf.com]
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Way to condone piracy.
Yeah, let's just keep reporting on the progress of emulators for current gen game console systems, and specifically mention how close it's coming to running illegal dumps of commercial roms.
Seriously... the hell is this site even thinking putting this up on here??
Wow the Wii U emulator can now play 8-bit platformers? The Wii U is doomed!
Edit: Also apparently this guy has never played shovelknight before. Took him over 2 minutes to figure out he could he could press down while airborn to use the shovel to stomp enemies from above :S
Well if you aren't supporting Yacht Club then you might as well be a criminal.
I'll say it again, but I find it weird that we cannot discuss this topic on the forums, despite the fact that NL keeps posting articles about Wii U emulators...
If you have an issue with this, just think it terms of posterity. There will not be many functioning Wii U units around in 30 years but I very well may still want to play the original Splatoon then.
....You know posting about this will make people think "why buy a Wii U, I could just wait until they fix the emulator's issues" and all that. >.>
@inverse not everyone uses emulators for illegal games.
The progress on that emulator is absolutely amazing! You can even play Mario Kart 8 now! I'm looking forward to more updates. One day, I might just be able to play these games on PC while cranking up the rendering resolution like in the Dolphin Emulator. Just imagine Mario Kart 8 in 4K... though by that time we likely have Mario Kart 9 on NX.
@ShanaUnite well the guy must be a lot more intellegent than you think he is, he has started work on a wii u emulator. do people realise how strange the wii u architecture is?
I agree with the posts here that this shouldn't be on a site like this. To an extent. The idea of creating debate on a subject like this is very healthy. I am of the belief that debates create healthy progress of opinion, we should always talk about what we don't like as well as the things we do. It will help us, as a collective, to form a more complete understanding of the issues. So if posting this on here means we talk about 'the elephant in the room' then I support it .
I feel this shouldn't really be here, Nintendolife shouldn't be promoting this sort of thing, why not focus more on speaking with developers? Covering forgotten gems, writing lists, doing polls etc etc... feels like a massive grey area that Nintendolife and its users should stay out of.
@Stu13 Uh...what?
Assuming Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo keep building their systems to last, we won't have to worry about that. Hell, I've got a PS1 and I know a few people that still have their original NESs.
Also, if the companies still exist as we know them in 30 years, the original Splatoon would probably be on Virtual Console.
Why does NintendoLife keep posting this kind stuff ? I don't like piracy or homebrew. (which sometimes leads to piracy)
An emulator is still piracy to me even if you somehow buy the game since they expect you do buy their console too.
If this was for a console that wasn't still being sold then I wouldn't care but I don't like this.
Did the guy at least buy a copy of shovel knight ? They made the game and deserve to be payed for it. Same for Nintendo.
@Mineral If you use the emulator legally you either have to get a redone BIOS (good luck with that on anything more complex than SNES/GBA except for the PS1 because that's making a little progress here) or make people load the BIOS from the console so owning it is a requirement anyway. Piracy is still annoying though.
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrr!
Emulators are like bongs, By itself it's nothing intimidating or illegal...but we ALL know what it's going to be used for so why even make the "technically is legal" excuse when we all know why it's there.
@Stu13
Yep. Our gaming history needs to be preserved, and there is no point preserving it if it can't be used.
@Xaessya Wii u games can only be played on Wii u so it is illegal stuff only.
@inverse i know right, lets give a positive article on emulation and bash 3ds Homebrew, great logic
While we allow discussion of past gen emulation, we do not allow links to obtain emulators or emulation material
~Santa
Edit: Still need to make my point, there are games made in 2015 for machines 30 years old and the creators distribute them for free, ergo:
Emulating a game =/= illegal
Well, it's something :v
Now imagine running something like XCX. Unless you have the right computer, you would enjoy an amazing 0fps :>
@allav866 ...That's not the point.
@kyuubikid213 Forgive the off topic question. Not sure I am permitted to do this, but I noticed on an older thread that you had been using a USB flash drive for storage for game updates. Did it eventually die on you or did it work out ok? I am in the same boat now - I want to run games off discs and have no interest in downloading digital titles, but large updates to games bought on disc are filling the meager storage space of my 8GB Wii u.
@inverse,
I agree! This is just another nonsense-article!!
If you own a PC and you do this stupid emulation thing just to play Shovel Knight, then you might as well go jump off a cliff. There's a reason Shovel Knight got a PC release and why Steam exist.
This is Nintendo's own fault. If they made their console stronger, there wouldn't be a Wii U emulator, atleast not any time soon. Why do you think there's no Xbox 360 or PS3 emulator? Or Xbox one or PS4 emulator?
@Xaessya
True but in some countries even making copy/ dumping cartridqe game to rom and using as yourself is still considered as illegal .
Still only 2D elements visible. I've yet to see an actual polygon materialize in Cemu. The Wii U GPU must be a complex being.
@The_Ninja Uhh.. What? The Wii U is more powerful than the PS3 and 360; power doesn't matter.
@The_Ninja @Octane I think the poster was referring to making the Wii u a 'stronger commercial prospect' . ie, if it was a roaring success people would simply buy the hardware
@inverse This site has every right to mention the progress of the elumator, and it is in no way condoning piracy. That's like saying that writing an article on ISIS means you condone terrorism. It's Nintendo news, and whether or not it deals with illegal issues it deserves to be written about.
And besides, reporting on the elumator really won't harm the Wii U in any way. It's already a dead system — an excellent one, but nonetheless lacking all potential to actually sell given its current state. An emulator is inevitable either way, so it's not as if people who were wanting or thinking about owning a Wii U hadn't already thought about the possibility of it. There's no real issue with this article.
@The_Ninja Funny thing about that. Despite PS4 and Xbox One's vastly superior hardware to the PS3 and Xbox 360, it's incredibly likely that we will see a functional PS4/Xbox One emulator before a PS3 and Xbox 360 emulator given how similar the architecture of the 8th gen consoles are to PC's.
@The_Ninja There is no PS3 emulator because the PS3 is pretty hard to program on let alone make a emulator for and the Xbox 260 although not as complex as the PS3 is still an complex system. It's not a matter of power, if it was then there would be a PS4 and Xbone emulator running at full speed by now. It's a matter of the system "language". Emulators have to translate the system language have to translate it to PC language to make it simple. That's why there is no completely accurate N64/Saturn emulator even though my toaster from 2004 can run N64/Saturn games just fine. Both of those system have very poor documentation so the emulator can't "translate" it very accurately. In short, it's nobody fault for a Wii U emulator processing at a amazing rate and the power of the console have nothing to do with emulation.
@Mineral
@R_Champ
@inverse
Emulators doesn't always lead to piracy. It is completely legal for a person to make an emulator for a console even if it current gen and backup and play their games on their PC. Nintendo even hint at that on their site. Of course it is completely undoubtable that people will end up pirating a game or two because they never been a emulator that hasn't had a single user pirate something on it, but that still doesn't mean everybody will do the same. Also, what is so bad about preserving games in the first place? Some games cost literally thousands of dollars to get (See: Metal Gear Soild GBC) and some are completely lost in time, never to get played again.
To end my ramblings about "emulation bad" topic and get back to what I was originally going to say, I'm pretty impress that it can run Shovel Knight at a somewhat playable speed at this point. Hopefully it keeps this rate and maybe get to see a very alpha gamepad emulation.
Android have Drastic DS emu that fantastic running 60-80 fps and then cemu i think super computer will run stable,looking forward for this
encrypted game most sadly at all
Having a functioning emulator of every game system possible is important for the preservation of games history. Remember PT? Games are quickly embracing digital means of distrobution, and that means if the developer / publisher decides to remove a game from the storefront, or the storefront itself is removed, it's gone for good. I pray we have a functioning PS4 emulator before the end of the decade so new generations of players can experience PT, since that game is not only a masterpiece of short form horror, but is forever linked with Konami's departure from the gaming market. PT is important both as a game and as a history lesson.
Emulators have uses besides piracy, and there will come a time where a system and its games become either nonexistent or scarce to the point where it is nearly impossible to source a unit that's even playable. To deny that is extremely shortsighted.
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