Any game based on the hugely popular AVGN web-series is going to be full of profanity, of course - Angry Video Game Nerd Adventures, being relatively faithful to the source material, is therefore a mature game. We acknowledged this in our review for the game, with the following observation / warning.
Expletives and excrement abound, none that we'll be sharing here, but we will say there's a level based on the old porn games of the Atari days. This isn't a game for the kiddies, of course, but they aren't likely to get many of the other references anyway.
That's fine, too. It's a mature game, that's what parental controls and ratings are for. Naturally, though, Nintendo has found a way to annoy its fans, by initially allowing screenshots on the Wii U Miiverse community and then removing them a couple of days after the title launched. It suggests Nintendo wasn't really paying attention as the game went live - the developers will have added screenshot support, and the big N allowed it to happen.
We've seen Nintendo get heavy-handed on Miiverse before, even when it's the company's own fault that mature content has been posted. We've had a number of readers get in touch about this, and having looked at the Miiverse community thought we'd share some of the entirely reasonable but disgruntled comments that have been shared on the topic.
Let us know what you think of this in the comments. Censorship, sensible moderation, flaws in the Miiverse design? A mix of all three?
I must agree that Nintendo is rather lazy with simple implementations like, parental controls to block specifically rated (or selected by nintendo) miiverse communities. Making that simple upgrade to the software would really please everyone.
Edit: But of course, after watching the trailer, fair freaking game Nintendo! There's no point in undoing there whole attempt at swear word and sexual content censorship with one game!
Again another case where people are making mountains out of molehills. The comparison to Bayo 2 is kinda silly since you never say Bayonetta constantly swearing like a sailor and making poo jokes
It is silly. Any kid who's interested in AVGN can go straight onto Google and look him and the game up, with completely unrestricted access through the Wii U's web browser.
Nintendo needs to wake up and smell the coffee. As much as I love them and their games, their archaic attitude is costing them customers and stopping them from competing properly with MS and Sony in the home console marketplace.
Seems reasonable enough.
I thought Miiverse was integrated in the parental control filter so games like this would not show up for kids anyway.
Yeah, enough with the playground rules Nintendo. "We want to make a Wii console for you" My ass you do!
Wow, screenshots disabled already? I certainly would appreciate an age gate on miiverse too. Posting screens is fun for any game.
Make a simple age filter, FOR GOD'S SAKE, Nintendo!! Block access to the miiverse community if someone is under age. If the child changes their age and sees something they shouldn't, it's their own damn fault. You have games with swearing and blood, etc, but we're not allowed to discuss it IN THE GAME'S OWN BLOODY COMMUNITY!
Yeah it's all a bunch of BS, but I'm still gonna get this and have a blast with it.
Not too surprised, but yeah, Nintendo should've just restricted the age of people allowed in the community or something.
It's always Fred Fuchs. What the fuch, Fred?
No sale on this game, saving money for a better Indie game. Soon AVGN will simply get more angry due to lack of sales.
So can you say the same on Nintendo Life forums/comments section? As @Wolfgabe said, you are making mountains out of molehills. If Nintendo wants to curate their miiverse/forums section they can do so.
Odd considering that Miiverse communuties rated M can't be accessed by anyone who stated they are under 17 years old anyway.
Last I checked Nintendo Life wouldn't allow a good deal of those pictures to be posted either. They'd be removed and the user at the very least warned. So would anybody think Nintendo would allow these to be posted is crazy.
Unfortunately there are those that just abuse the system to the point where Nintendo had no choice. Same with Swapnote.
I can't believe they still haven't made a Miiverse community for Shin Megami Tensei IV! I'm sure they'd want to disable screenshots for it, considering the phallic designs of some demons and the one with a totally exposed erection, but it seems like way too popular of a game to not have a community!
I"m not a fan of Nintendo restricting an M rated game Miiverse community. They have the right to post screenshots like everyone else for the game they bought. Sure its for adults but most of the people buying the game are adults so just block the community for kids under 17 and its should be fine.
Also what is going to happen once the 3DS gets Binding of Isaac? Will that have a disabled miiverse too?
@Wolfgabe Have you played Bayo 2? Man, there's a lot of swearing in those cutscenes. Plus the completely oversexualised gymnastics she performs. And there's that one level in Bayo 1 where you find a fountain with an actual whizzing penis. Which Bayonetta then shoots a bullet directly at.
The comparison is spot on. I never shared screenshots of that kind when playing the game but I wonder if it would have been removed and I'm surprised they allow any screenshots from the game at all, such is a level of 18+ content.
Europe Miiverse has SMT IV and SMT Soul Hackers Miiverse communities.
North America doesn't though probably because the games came out before Miiverse existed.
btw fun fact.
Persona Q Shadow of the Labyrinth Europe = allows screenshots
Persona Q Shadow of the Labyrinth North America =/= doesn't allow screenshots.
I wish the final difficulty didn't have to be played in one sitting. (Maybe there is another but I will never pass the old school one because I don't want to play the whole thing in one sitting). This is presuming nothing has changed since I played the Steam version.
Wow ... Nintendo, get your poopoocadoodle together and update your policys and even more important your networks ...
I hope, that the deal with DeNA and the new User-program will bring a more up to date aproach of this too ...
They can't have anything inappropiate for kids on Miiverse, or there will be a massive media campaing against it and Nintendo platforms.
Unless we want Nintendo to block Miiverse for under 13's.
Nintendo is a joke, this is why the gaming industry doesn't take then seriously or at all. Hell even Disney is more mature then Nintendo itself...
I thought with their parental block, it would prevent communities like this from even showing up on the Miiverse for those not of age.
I wonder what could of happen during those 2 or so days for them to disable screenshots. Complain from "concerned" adults like with swap note and others, wide misuse like with Kid Icarus: Uprising, or a overlook with their quality control team.
In any case it's no big deal. Social sites do it all the time, heck even this site does it more time than people talk about (maybe they delete the posts before the masses knows ) People just have more reason to hate Nintendo "Directly" (forward arm gesture) with everything.
It's their site, their rules
Parental controls on Miiverse need to happen. They need to happen on the DS as well - so that the adults of the world can send a message to our NINTENDO NETWORK friends without having to get on our Wii U's (for friends that have both) or Facebook for those that don't. God forbid, the friends who are acquaintances through NINTENDO GAMING, and aren't FB/Twitter friends.
A filter would fix this issue, and could easily be implemented to allow adults to chat with other adults in private (friends only) matches for MK, Smash, etc.
Family friendly is one thing: exclusionary towards adults (who, honestly, make up the majority of your fan base) is another entirely. Stop pretending we're all Japanese schoolchildren and let the over 18 crowd play our games with a little dignity (meaning allowed indignity, of course).
I'll buy the game later, but I also made a post myself in the community about the screenshots being disabled.
Let off the filter so we can see all the immature penis and fart jokes. Ha Ha swap note.
Anyway Nintendo needs to have a parental controls that block underage users from seeing these things. but then there are ways around this like kids lying about there age (I know my little bother does it) or using a adult profile. So what is Nintendo to do?
People always find something to complain whether Miiverse, Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, etc. It's nothing new, I do agree that an age filter does need to be made but then again some kids are idiots and will fake their age just to read and see it anyways.
Why are people complaining? This could've been avoided if Nintendo launched the game without a matching Miiverse community, true, but we should've known that they'd remove the screenshots eventually, given the nature of the game.
I think Nintendo simply has a strong sense of irony.
Can't believe people are getting so upset over pictures of one moment in a game. Stop sharing things that can be vulgar, it is really that simple. It is because of this that lead Nintendo to making this choice. Why should they have to spend the money to create a system so you can be vulgar? Since people feel entitled to do whatever they want, when they want it; I am glad that Nintendo shows them that those same people have limitations to what they are allowed to do.
Yeah, Nintendo needs to lay off. They should just abandon this family friendly censorship stuff. It really doesn't help anyone
This is a vulgar game with mature content. Doesn't make sense to allow screenshots and allow little kids will see it. Big deal. Get over it. Search google for screenshots. Not a big deal.
@Jock_Nerd But still, Nintendo could have put some parent control block so kids wouldn't see it. Plus, how are players of this gonna post the screenshots using Google? That doesn't make sense.
@kereke12 Someone saying Disney is more mature than Nintendo? Yeah, I can agree with you there, even Disney throw in a couple "sexual" nudge jokes that no kid would even bat an eyelid to except maybe a parent if they're paying attention.
Nintendo has always been kiddo friendly, problem is this alienates everyone else. If I want to post a screenshot of a game I'm playing I should be able to, why do we have to be restricted because you don't want kids seeing it? Why not restrict access to Miiverse communities that are above their age rating.
Problem is, a kid can still use he Wii U Browser and search for these games on YouTube or wherever and probably find way worse than what is posted on Miiverse.
It's stupid, completely stupid.
I wish Nintendo would stop acting like a parent...
WAAAAAAAAAAAAA! WAAAAAAAAAAAA! WAAAAAAAAAAAA!
ure all acting like a buncha baby Marios.
@outburst sure they can, but they're only hurting themselves.
This is just the latest reason as to why I don't frequent Miiverse any more.
@Shy_Guy I wish that parents wouldnt let children play M rated games. In Great Britain, if im correct parents would be turned in to authorities if Teacher found out that minors were playing these games. So instead of Parents going to jail cause their children saw Tits and Shit on a screenshot, Nintendo removed the option. Looks like they are only saving people from jail.
I can't believe people are actually complaining about something so easy to understand,a lot of kids use miiverse.just be happy the game is on wii U and uncensored.
Hey look, RgSaria!
@outburst When Nintendo allow screenshots for games like Bayonetta 2 (and don't try to tell me the content isn't 'as adult' in it, I've played through it), it comes across as hypocritical. But, oh wait....Nintendo actually financed and published Bayonetta 2, so that's fine then. Apparently.
You can't really compare Nintendo Life to Miiverse. Nintendo Life aren't part of a bigger online community that has these adult games available for download, and specific communities set up for them. It would be just as absurd if Nintendo Life did have a section where the game was available to download and set up a community dedicated to the AVGN game, but then censored comments and pictures relating to it.
I´m glad that my Miiverse post got featured. I understand the content of the game and what can kids see in the Miiverse, but wouldn´t be easier to restrict communities by age? That could make everybody happy.
Miiverse is way too heavy handed. I received a warning for posting a picture of the menu screen for Rush, because it's a 'spoiler' apparently. And when I argued against it, they insisted it was a spoiler and deleted the post with no reason given as to why. I'm still confused about that to this day.
Meanwhile, the Super Mario 3D World community is full of fart jokes and other similar visual gags you can make up with the in game unlockable Miiverse stamps. They hardly ever seem to be checked or moderated, and appear all over the loading screens as you're playing unless you disable Miiverse content altogether. That's fine though, it's a Nintendo published game, right? One rule for one....yada, yada yada.
The parental controls should block anyone underage from accessing adult communities, the same as they block anyone underage from being able to download the game in the first place. At least that's what we were led to believe after the whole shambles when they were only allowing adult games like Zombi U to go on sale for about 3 hours a night in Europe a while back, and I don't remember anybody supporting Nintendo about that.
@Sakurai Sure, Nin hasn't implemented a parental control block yet. Might come later. What I was saying about google is you can still view screenshots from google.
Seems like a good decision by Nintendo.
Ah bless. The internet has been confusing Nintendo for years.
None of the posters in the article had even bothered to buy the game before they started trolling. A "box icon" in the lower right of every post shows if you own the game or not.
I've never heard of AVGN and went on to the Miiverse Community to have a nosey. I'm fine with bad language and whatever else but the thought of my kids coming across that community?! I'd be mad. So Nintendo have done the right thing, but obviously it shouldn't have come to this, only gonna annoy folks who were allowed to use it for all of two days then have it disabled?! They've shot themselves in the foot
@MJKOP Or maybe you could have just done your job as a parent and use the parental settings to block your children from going on to Miiverse. Hey, if you and other parents did that, then maybe it would still be up.
Question. Are you alright with your kids going onto the Bayonetta Miiverse pages? You're not alright with foul language but are you ok with your children watching sexual explicit images?
The Bayonetta miiverse is not as naughty as you wish. The closest to nudity you get are pictures of Bayonetta in something that looks like a high cut bathing suit.
Well, that's gonna escalate quickly...
But in all seriousness, Nintendo is once again making it too easy for parents to just be bad parents, simply by taking over the responsibility of protecting kids from imagery they're not supposed to see. It's an incredibly short-sighted decision in several ways, especially in this game, which is a skill-tester of the higher grade, so people who make impressive accomplishments have no screenshots to prove so on MiiVerse.
@FarsanBaloo True, Bayonetta pics tend to revolve more around costume/weapon setups, crazy combos, cool cutscenes/scenery pics, or some progress shots.
@OmegaStar I know you on Miiverse, as well (well, I'm following you, at least).
It's an M-rated game, don't you have to be 17 (or at least say you are) to view its Miiverse community anyway? If that's not true it should be. At any rate if the kiddies can't see the community anyway I see no reason to take the screenshots down. Nintendo SHOULD have known what was in the game when they approved it, RIGHT?
Can we please stop referring to games like this as "mature?"
@Dr_Corndog Oh get off your high horse, you know what "mature" means in this context.
You people do know what AVGN is like right? The game even has a level explicitly based on games like Beat 'em and Eat 'em, atari style penis and all.
I'm surprised that screenshots were allowed to begin with.
@ColdingLight hey pal, don't you dare attack me as a parent. My kids are six and three and they use Wii U and I'm comfortable with them using Miiverse as for the most part it's pretty harmless, because of Nintendo & their measures. It's for everyone, not just me, not just kids, not just 'mature' adults. They post on the Pikmin community, NSMBU and SM3DW and I'm pretty relaxed about it, BUT if they stumbled across AVGN and saw what I saw? I would not be happy, like I said. Nintendo have made people angry and I can empathise with those people, but until they sort out restricting communities by age or whatever then I'm glad they've banned screenshots for now. Like I said, they've shot themselves in the foot here, made themselves look foolish, lazy or whatever. But be careful before you accuse a parent of not doing their job
This is mostly because ESRB rated the game as "M", but PEGI rated it only as "12" - quite a perception of heavy cultural contrast!
Welcome to the entitlement generation, folks!
No, you do not have a "right" to post ANYTHING on miiverse. Miiverse is not a public space. It is a private website and the owners can stop anyone from saying or posting pics of whatever they feel like.
Freedom of speech just means you can't be areested for saying things. It doesn't mean people have to give you a forum to say it on their private property.
But you hate the gamepad so much, how could you even use Miiverse properly without touching it. i kid.
That's where you go and report someone making penis jokes out of a perfectly kid-friendly game like 3d World. As far as I know, AVGN have these explicit words in-game which you encounter frequently so yeah it's easier to moderate it by simply disabling the screenshots taken in-game FOR NOW. As for Bayonetta? You don't see that much often. Maybe if there are screenshots which gets reported often in a game per day or per week, that's when Nintendo try to ban miiverse users for posting screenshots for that particular game. AVGN could have reached a specific number of forbidden screenshots reported and taken down to warrant a temporary (or permanent) disabling of screenshots until Nintendo can fix the Miiverse age filtering.
To be really honest I'm just glad they allowed they game to come out at all. What I don't get is just how strict they are about that stuff when they have a million options for parental controls on their consoles...
I'd rather they had back the freaking Dream Team screenshot functionality.
Yeah, that's the next thing they need to look into is restricting rated M game communities for people under a certain age. It's kind of crazy they haven't already.
I doubt the "8 bit blocky pixelated butt" is anyones major concern...
@MJKOP I love how you just completely avoid my last question. Anyway, I'll continue to accuse a parent of not doing their job because you're not doing your job. The fact that you're ok with allowing your children to go on Miiverse and potentially be exposed to more maturer Miiverse pages like AVGN/Bayonetta/COD/etc tells me you honestly don't care what your children look up. Or at the very least don't care enough.
Now granted, you told me that your children were of the ages 3-6 and I highly doubt they're going to be able to comprehend most of what higher rated communities post. At the same time, You shouldn't be basically saying "Oh I'm glad they removed it because it's not suitable for my children." when they're others arguably even more worst ones than this. That's just contradicting.
So, you either block Miiverse (I believe you can block specific communities...I admit, I don't quite remember.) or you can continue letting your children go on these communities and not complain about it. It's parents like you who probably call Nintendo saying "Hey, this is too explicit. Could you remove it?" and they do and it pisses off other gamers. Don't be a burden and do your job.
I take it that you have no children. Or if you do you must not have any Internet or most multimedia devices allowed in your house.
I couldn't agree more. People think that freedom of speech is there so anyone can say whatever they want wherever and whenever they want. Concepts like decency, tact, and timing seem to be an afterthought. Freedom of speech is an understanding/law, in many countries, that you can speak your mind without fear of abuse, sentence of death by the state/public, and general rejection from the community/society.
You wanna know what parents aren't doing their jobs? The ones who have 6-14 yr old children being little $h!ts online and in public who later become garbage adults.
@cantbedevin64 You assumed right. I don't have any kids. I'd rather kill myself then have kids. Anyway, Why wouldn't I have multimedia devices or internet allowed in my house? I'm not saying children shouldn't go online, I'm just saying censor it if you're that paranoid or don't complain.
Calling it. Binding of Isacc Rebirth won't allow screenshots on Miiverse
I had a few Commodore 64 prn games when i was a child. Was just loading disks searching for cool games because I got a 100er box from a flea market and some disks didn't have a label.
Well, it was funny to come across them. Didn't make me feel bad or uncomfortable. A bit ashamed at first maybe but most games were hilarious more than anything. Just like AVGNA. In hindsight those 8-bit and Atari graphics were harmless even back then. Some horror games however, even in 8bit, gave me nightmares.
lol. That's a bit extreme to avoid children.
Maybe James will do an angry vg nerd about this! Cross your fingers!
I love how people don't get it, Nintendo has liabilities and allowing people to post vulgar screens on Miiverse can get them in trouble if some parents see AVGN Adventures. It's pretty ridiculous to think that in our culture people will be "responsible parents" when you don't even know what that is. Watching your kids constantly is damn near impossible, but I suspect most of you either don't have kids or have parents that watch you as much as you deserve, which is not very much. Get over it.
I take it you meant to reply to me. It's not necessarily about censorship per-say.
It's about ppl not realizing that was written into the American constitution because many governments before had simply "censored"/killed ppl for speaking out. It's not there for ppl to be as profane, crass, and asinine as possible whenever they like. It's not like these kids get strung up by the neck for being idiots. So let's not act like we live in a totalitarian/facist society. All I'm saying is that there is a time and place to fight for individual liberties and a time and place to show some class.
Edit: and no I don't decide, society is supposed to. Those rights aren't there to act like animalistic morons, they're there to allow ppl to engage in open and honest dialogue about life.
@ColdingLight are you seriously suggesting children should be banned from Miiverse?! Like I said it is not exclusively for you, me, or for kids, it's for everyone. My daughter has her own NNID and the Wii U is in our living room, I can see what she is doing. I don't see what Bayonetta has to do with this which is why I ignored it. I've never went on to the community there and nor would I allow my kids to. My kids don't use my phone, they are not allowed to freely browse the Internet, they wouldn't know what Facebook or Twitter is, but I will not take Miiverse away from them. I think it's up to Nintendo to make sure my kids can't see AVGN, they need to fix that loophole. I don't think the community should be removed, I don't think the people who use it should be hampered or punished because of my kids, but for whatever reason they don't seem to have anything in place to keep the community hidden from those who shouldn't see it. Never in my life, by the way, have I complained to Nintendo or anyone else.
Miiverse communities for "M" rated games should have parental controls and be exclusive to those who bought the game.
@StarDust4Ever you're 100% spot on, it's as simple as this. People can say, do, watch, play whatever they please, I have no problem with that. I'll do my best to protect my children, but I am not gonna ban them from Miiverse. Miiverse! My goodness
@outburst We are not exaggerating anything. Nintendo is not letting us discuss content about a game in its own community. If the game is 18+, the community should be too, so that us adults can actually discuss all aspects of the game. It's unfair that we can't discuss something just because some kid may be looking at a community for a game they shouldn't be buying. Nintendo claims to be for all ages, not just kids.
@MJKOP No dude. I'm not suggesting children be banned from using Miiverse. I literally never suggest that. You're honestly not understanding what I'm saying to you. As for Bayonetta, I thought it was pretty obvious why I brought it up. You know, cause both communities have explicit content in it? I thought that was really obvious.... What did you not understand about that? Also, you don't allow your children to use the internet of phones? Well that's your call but there are ways to block explicit sites and whatnot but whatever, it's your call.
Your next sentence cracked me up.
You said: "I think it's up to Nintendo to make sure my kids can't see AVGN, they need to fix that loophole." No! Lol! As we continue this conversation the more you convince me that you're a poor parent. Please absorb what I'm about to say: Your video game console isn't suppose to babysit your children while you do god knows what. Lol I've no clue why this is a common misconception for parents. a video game console is not a figurative pacifier for your children. jeez.
And finally, you've never complained about Nintendo or to anyone else?
Come on. No one's going to believe that. I've gotta admit, you're cracking me up with this! XD Knowing Nintendo and all their faults and recent fails you've never complained about that? Hahaha! And you've never complained to anyone else? I guess that explains why you responded to me at 1:00 A.M.
No, but joking aside, I believe you have kids which means you went out and mingled. But don't tell me outside of us, you've never complained to anyone else. That's just not a well thought out thing to say to someone.
I start work at 6.30 am and I'm from Northern Ireland, with the time difference it was 1am for you. You are misunderstanding me. I do not expect my console to babysit my kids. I'm saying there is a problem that can be easily fixed by Nintendo, the community for AVGN / Bayonetta / COD or any other mature title should not be visible to anyone under the particular age rating for that game. I think it is unfair that yourself and everyone else who bought and enjoy the game cannot fully enjoy the Miiverse Community aspect, but that is not my fault or my kids. There is a simple solution and I have no idea why they've gone to the extreme they have rather than using the obvious and simple solution. I hope what they have done is only temporary. I'm truly offended and genuinely upset by you calling me a poor parent but I doubt you are bothered. Again, I hope they sort the situation out and you and everyone else can enjoy your Miiverse Community fully. I meant, by the way, that I have never specifically complained to Nintendo or anyone else regarding anyones right to free speech or freedom of expression, I haven't demanded anyone change, remove or ban anything because I don't like it or think it's inappropriate. I made a comment on here because it seemed like a hot topic, that's all
Oh no! Let's all whine and cry about the lack of social media outlets we are limited to! Who cares!? Except those hoping to get little kids to read their vulgar Miiverse post. Go ahead and argue that, see how silly it sounds as you type it. "I only have Twitter, Facebook, Pintrest... Waaaaaaaaaagh!" Yup that's what you sound like. No questions about it. GOOD WORK NINTENDO, leave the trolls behind... Miiverse is a joke, the faster they remove that feature, the faster we can move on from "Social Media" (no, Miiverse is just a place for you to SEE something someone posted, no real interaction, just loads of "look at me") on our consoles.... Too much to say, gotta get back to playing games, and stop socializing.
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