Call of Duty: Black Ops III "Ember" Tease Sets a Futuristic Scene Ahead of Full Reveal

I guess this is only news because there is still hope. Still can't see why they would go to the trouble to sell less then 50k copies.

I do hope a Wii U version does come out. Especially after the Black Ops II teaser at the end of the game. It would be a welcome addition to help against the long drought of game releases for the system.

@Spoony_Tech Quite a bit of people would buy this on wii u actually. (Note me tho)

I dont know if i want to play call of duty again, i spend too much on call of duty black ops 2 and ghosts, and i hated both those games xD but too addicting. Idk but i still look into it, if it doesnt come to wii u. THen i dont care

Well since most 3rd party games sell less then 50k I doubt it. The only reason we might get a new game on the U is because people want to get in nice with Nintendo before the new system launch. Hopefully that's still 2 and a half years

Hope it comes to us, if not, Devil's 3rd. Actually I'm get Devil's 3rd no matter what.

If this comes to the Wii U has a lot to do with whether the game will be on PS3 and Xbox 360. If Activision finally leaves those systems behind then I think it'll almost certainly skip Wii U.

@Spoony_Tech The nx isn't gunna be a replacement for the wii u tho ik that much for a fact but that could be true.
Also this really is a great commercial for the game, it almost looked like a good movie trailer.

@Spoony_Tech - "Still can't see why they would go to the trouble to sell less then 50k copies."

Maybe Activision has realized what most of the internet seemingly hasn't - Xbox One and Wii U have each sold 10mil units, troll bravado taunts of "X1 rulz, Wii U sux" to the contrary. So maybe they need those other 50k sales, and it keeps them from being so dependent on Sony?

Wii U probably isn't getting it, but if it did, I'd say poor X1 sales are the reason.

Oh, cool. If it keeps all the Exo Suit stuff from Advanced Warfare, I'm all for buying this!

gyro-assisted aiming then i'll buy day one.

@edgedino So you think Nintendo will still support the Wii U after the NX releases?? This would be uncharacteristic of them as when they launch a new system they totally abandoned the old system. So I see it as it's successor.

Well only a few days to wait to find out if it will or won't be for WiiU.
Personally I can't see it coming to WiiU for a number of reasons. The biggest one being the latest COD missed the WiiU so why would they take a 'backward' step and do this one on WiiU.
Other reasons poor performance of the BOppsII on WiiU, the scaving Activision got from WiiU users for not fully supporting it with DLC etc.
Low install base probably means that if they did bring BOppsIII then it will be just as poorly supported as BOppsII was, and thus WiiU users will not buy it. Vicious circle!

And then no one buys it because the VAST majority of players would be on the other consoles anyway resulting in another nail in the Wii U 3rd party game coffin.

Hooray...

I just recently got my Wii U, and BO2 is my first COD game. I thought it was awesome and BO3 will be the first COD I buy day 1 if it comes to Wii U.

Now... until this comes out, back to Bayonette!

In other news. Square Enix is having their own conference at E3 this year. Now Kingdom Hearts 3 would be a game Wii U owners would actually buy.

@rjejr

The difference is that Call of Duty actually sells on the Xbox One, and is heavily supported by Microsoft (they've had a partnership on CoD for ages). The Xbox One could have half the sales of the Wii U, and Call of Duty would still sell far better on there--and I'm quite sure it did in 2013 when the XBO launched.

It's not going to sell on the Wii U because it isn't a Mario, Zelda, or Pokemon game.

According to "take it with a heavy grain of salt," factually-challenged, but occasionally not-too-far-off VGChartz, Ghosts sold 0ver 2 million on the Xbox One, and barely a quarter million on the Wii U. Which is interesting, as I played Ghosts online on the Wii U, and I never had the impression that the audience was even remotely that big.

Another rehashed game that still runs on a modified Quake 3 engine from 1999, no thanks. These scumbags don't deserve any money.

@Laxeybobby

To be fair to Activision, would you want to invest a lot of time and money into developing DLC for a console that is almost guaranteed not to have the storage space for it? Sure, gamers can buy externals (as I did), but Activision can't be banking on that. That's just not good business.

@Quorthon - "Ghosts sold ... a quarter million on the Wii U."

250k sounds like a good reason to port it to me.

And while what you said makes sense as to why Wii U won't get a port, and I said as much at the end of my post, Wii U probably won't get this, but I was trying to find a reason why it would, and that was the best reason I could come up w/ supporting a lost cause.

So if Wii U did get this game, why do you think they would bother?

My other thought was the working relationship between Nintneod and Activision regarding Skylanders, but amiibo probbaly isn't helping that relationship much.

And why on earth is Activision putting GH Live on WiiU? I guess if we get 1 we get the other?

@Spoony_Tech
Actually both the Call of Duty games on Wii-U did fair. More like 250,000 instead of 50,000. So that could make it worth it for them to put it on Wii-U. I bought Black Ops II when it came out, it was pretty good on Wii-U. Hopefully Black Ops III will make it, the Wii-U could definitely use any support.

GamePad co-op
Gyro
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I feel confident that it will be on Wii U. Treyarch doesn't suck like Infinity Ward does; they've always been good to us Nintendo fans.

@edgedino
There are no facts other than that it exists and that it is their next gaming device. While it's not confirmed that it'll replace Wii U (and/or 3DS), it most likely will. Nintendo doesn't support their consoles very long and having them support Wii U (and 3DS) after NX arrives would not only be uncharacteristic of them, it'll also be stretching them thin. Considering that Wii U is basically a flop, there's no point in supporting it after its generation has ended. 3DS is pretty decent success (though sales are stunted due to smart devices), but sales are dying and will only continue dying. By 2017, it will have lived long enough and a successor would naturally take its place.

If Black Ops 2 and Ghosts sold 250k copies on Wii U then why are there only around 500 to 800 players on Ghosts online? I hope Black Ops 3 is on Wii U bit I don't think it will be. Shame because you cannot beat the Wiimote controls for COD.

How dare they consider releasing a game on the Wii U without Mario, Zelda or Pokemon. Bang on Mr Q

Seriously, would buy it if there is a digital release, but previous CODs didn't get a digital release, so not getting my hopes up

I think it would really help Activision to give Wii U owners a digital option for buying CoD games. It'd cut down production costs, at least, and the consumer wouldn't have to pay sales taxes - at least not in the U.S. Frankly, I think Activision was having a hard time figuring out how to put DLC on the eShop - particularly the season pass feature, which I don't think Nintendo even practiced until MK8. Either way, hopefully Nintendo's working with Acti to make things easier should BOIII come to Wii U.

If this comes to Wii U, sign me up.

Speaking of Deus Ex, why isn't there an article on Square Enix announcing they will be holding a press conference at E3 yet? They could be showing Bravely Second after all (on top of FFXV, Deus Ex, Tomb Raider, and KHIII)

@Spoony_Tech nintendo has stated before that thyen have wanted to make a third form of consal like how the ds series are handhelds and the over abundunce of names for thier main are home consoles but this might be a third kind but i still highly doubt they are dropping the wii u with the sales constantly increasing. Its most likely gunna involve app games like phones or involve computers or even involve thier quality of life program but who knows other then nintendo at this point.

@AVahne by 2017 yes but it is not yet that time yet but i think even then that would be fairly short.

IF its on Wii U and/or eShop I'll probably buy it, assuming its not a bad version. If not, than I guess I won't.

This has my attention...

I read recently that the wii u version of black ops 2 still has a pretty dedicated online community.with the install base having increased a bit maybe they feel a quick port of the 360 version could make a decent profit for them.for what it's worth I think this will be the last "last gen" release and next year they'll go current gen only with either modern or advanced warfare.

@AVahne

Pretty much my thoughts. Once the new console comes out there will be no more support for its predecessor, save perhaps a lingering game or two. I don't know if NX will combine both handheld and console (only reason I think it might not is the cost factor- WE have no problem shelling out for a console/handheld duo because we buy both of them anyways and love great games- we fans are gaming connoisseurs, but if they're aiming for a large user base next generation I'm not sure how many people are going to warm up to a $400-$600 hybrid), but whatever NX ends up replacing, support for it is sure to stop after the NX release.

With that said, Nintendo always supports their hardware for the entirety of the generation so we've still got a couple years to go.

Let's be honest, No game this generation can be built for this generation, because Im sure it can almost easily be ported to the PS3 and Xbox360.

If that 250K figure for BO2 Wii U is factual (or even close) then that is FAR more than i ever thought.
After reading the article I was thinking "why the hell put in on the Wii U for a measly 30K more sales?"

250K is not that bad. I speak relatively of course. The Wii U must have added a couple more million to the userbase since the last COD so maybe 350K+ is possible.
I know it won't come to the wii u but it would be good if it did.

@Spoony_Tech

290k COD BO 2
250k Ghosts

Still low numbers, but much higher than 50k

I really want this game on my Wii U, i had so much fun playing this game Local Coop Online (TV+gamepad), for me is the best way to play this kind of game.

Maybe the Nintendo Network appearance was an error as COD is playable on the Wii U. They probably ported over the logos without planning on what consoles they were actually using. We already seen these errors before so don't get your hopes up

@rdrunner1178 @rennandovale I stand corrected but my biggest concern now is how many Wii U owners have moved on and those would be sales will now go to PS4 or X1

@Nintendo69 : I agree. The Devils Third is my most wanted Wii U game.
I will buy BLOPS 3 on release only if its on Wii U. If not, i will get PC version in bargain bin sometime.

Have to be honest, I've pre-ordered the Batman Arkham Knight console bundle for the PS4. If this does come out on Wii U I doubt I'd get it, not because of graphics or anything like that but simply because there will be more people online for the PS4 so I can play the modes I want. Can only play free-for-all, team death match and the odd bit of search and destroy on the Wii U for Black Ops 2 :

Black Ops 2 was great on WiiU despite DLC

@SupremeAllah You call COD a rehash but you don't realize nintendo does the same thing all the time and you don't complain.

P.S. COD hasn't run on the modified quake III engine since Ghosts.

@Captain_Gonru - "but there's always fun to be had in empty speculation."

Some times thats all we have as there are more games NOT coming to Wiii U than coming to Wii U. At least we have hope for this one. Blind unrealistic hope, but still. And then there's Guitar Hero Live coming to Wii U. We got Watch Dogs, so never say never.

@taffy Same. I bought the PS4 for COD AW (yup lol), and because of this cod on Wii u will never get my business.

I'm just in it for the Zombies

@rjejr

Keep in mind the numbers I found for the sales were from "notoriously incorrect" VGChartz, which for a long time was dominated by Nintendo fanboys (because of course it would be, the Wii and DS were tearing up charts for a long time). This just feels like an unwholesome mix.

At the same time, the XBO has just a few more consoles currently out, but Call of Duty will always outperform the Nintendo version there. Just as it always did on the X360 over the Wii.

From the perspective of us Nintendo fans, there's good reasons for Call of Duty to come to the Wii U--it worked fairly well before and in general 100,000 should ideally cover much of the cost of porting the X360 version to the Wii U.

But logistically, to everyone outside of really adamant Nintendo fanboys, the Wii U is clearly entering it's decline already. And coupled with the lack of harddrive space to support DLC, a weak online infrastructure, and notably poor sales of third party games compared to the competition, I can see where Activision would just see this as a near total waste of their time. What little profit they might lose by not having it on a Nintendo console will be more than made up for on literally every other platform.

And as an aside, I think saying "oh it's Treyarch and they handled the Wii U versions before" is kind of silly. It's not Treyarch's decision--it's Activision's, and Treyarch is going to be plenty busy on the versions of the game guaranteed to sell.

I don't mean to beat a dead horse--I didn't play Call of Duty until I owned a Wii U and wanted to give it's online a test drive. But I just wanted to clarify my point--that I get the bit of hope and frustration, but totally understand why it's highly unlikely to happen. Just because the NNID is on the site doesn't mean anything at this point. The Wii U logo also appeared with a lot of early press for Advanced Warfare, and it never happened.

I bought Advanced Warfare on the PS4, and while there was much to enjoy, my ever-evolving and revolving tastes have had enough CoD for a while. Mortal Kombat is back, I'm still holding Far Cry 4 on my "to finish" list, and Bloodborne has finally introduced me to the Souls franchise in glorious fashion. I can't play the same thing year after year after year. I get burned out. I need something new. I got burned out on Zelda ages ago, too. I tried the new Mario Kart 8 tracks and felt like they were nothing particularly special. I guess I'm still burned out on Mario Kart. I gave it a shot, and it's time to move on.

Despite my gripes about Splatoon, this is my last lingering hope for the game--that it is something fresh that clicks with me for the single player if nothing else (no longer have much interest in the broken multiplayer). After the constant barrage of "look at Xenoblade!!!" attention Nintendo has been delivering, I'm starting to worry if I'm going to feel burned out on the game before it even launches over here. I can't help but feel that way already. It's been nearly three years with endless streams of videos and images and news. I feel like I've already experienced the damn thing.

@taffy

That Batman PS4 looks really cool.

Did you already previously have a PS3?

To all the dumb donkeys who think this won't come out for Wii U and are here to just talk trash.....Treyarch loves Nintendo, the Nintendo network ID is still on the official website(if it was an error it would already be down), and Activision's other titles are coming to Wii U this year as well. Also COD on wii u has done relatively well pushing 250,000 to 300,000 units. Hell black ops 2 on wii u still has about 2000 players on daily. There's enough people there to warrant a port.

And for all you PS4 fanboys in the room talking about all the great games you get to play, I would just like to say i'm not jealous at all...

Splatoon
Xenoblade Chronicles X
Devils Third
Starfox Wii U
Mario Maker
Yoshi's Wooly World
Fatal Frame 5

How many exclusives is that? How many months are left in the year?

who really cares about this game WE ARE GETTING SPLATOON IN A MONTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope it does. The Wii U could always use more third-party love. I think I'd eventually buy it.

This game is headed by Treyarch, so of course it's coming to Wii U.

Treyarch always for the win ~

Don't get me wrong, it was a great trailer, but had someone told it it was for Deus Ex i would have believed them.

@Quorthon - ""notoriously incorrect" VGChartz"

You know, for all the years I've heard about how bad VGA is, I've never heard once, not once, anybody give an alternative source. People either need to stop using it, or stop bad mouthing it, until somebody comes up w/ an alternative. I mean if it's always been as bad as everybody always says it is surely somebody, in this day and age of data in the cloud, could have come up w/ a better source of info, no? Some teen in some basement somewhere? Some N. Korean WoW superstar? TMZ? Anybody who could come up w/ a reliable source of data would have such a popular website they could put Facebook to shame. You know what I think? I think VGA is good enough that nobody else bothers. Heck even Sykpe has Facetime and Meerkat. Snapchat. Instagram. All these apps, but nobody wants to be the alternative to VGA and have a website w/ accurate videogame sales data? I don't believe it.

BTW, I'm not saying VGA is accurate, any more than my bathroom scale or the weatherman, but if it's the only thing we have people should just use it w/o all the adjectives, or not use.

End of rant.

@rjejr

I think it's perfectly valid to "badmouth" something that is faulty, even if it is the only one. If the only political party was Communists, I doubt anyone would say to "just accept it until something better comes along."

The problem is that there is no other truly accurate source for daily or weekly numbers, although occasionally outdated, Wikipedia does at least have something VGChartz does not--links to references to back up their numbers. That doesn't mean we just accept VGChartz blindly. They have occasional agreeable estimates, but they have just as many totally wrong guesses. I was shocked to see the Guiness Book of World Records for gaming referencing it multiple times--I guess standards for that book have dropped off pretty sharply.

I get not using it at all, though. For the most part, I never venture there. The boards are a fanboy-driven disaster, the numbers largely guesses, the articles obnoxiously open in multiple unnecessary windows.

I don't think it's "good enough that nobody else bothers," I think there's a widespread misconception that it's accurate. It's not that nobody else tries--after all, if there's one good version of something, there are others. For instance, Metacritic may be the first aggregate site people run to, but there's still GameRankings and Rotten Tomatoes among others for games, movies, and/or music.

The problem isn't that VGChartz is "good enough," it's that the industry carefully guards sales numbers because they are often a distraction--it's more likely that VGChartz is the only sales site, not because it's "good enough," but because it's the only place willing to so regularly post inaccurate information and pass it off as fact while any other responsible person knows better.

But, I take your point--rather than "taking VGChartz with a grain of salt" and giving it any attention at all, it is better to just flat-out ignore it.

I suppose it would be wise for us to remember this analysis: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/109870/Analysis_What_VGChartz_Does_And_Doesnt_Do_For_The_Game_Biz.php

@capitalism

Black Ops II does not have 2000 people on daily. Maybe total but never on at one time, which is where the numbers matter. If you like, I can fire it up tonight--Friday nights would have higher numbers than weeknights, and give you an accurate number, which is far more likely to be less than 500. At it's peak--and I played Black Ops II on the Wii U during it's peak, it was rare to see it top 2000, and most game lobbies were empty.

Also, the PS4 has approximately 80 exclusive titles this year known so far. That averages out to almost as many per month as you have listed for the Wii U all year. Nobody said you needed to be "jealous," but it wouldn't hurt to be informed.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2015/01/14/2015-video-game-release-schedule.aspx

For instance, the actual number of Wii U "exclusives" for the year is closer to 36 (several of the listed exclusives are ports of games released elsewhere, and Underground managed to appear on the list twice), which is all well and good, but still a far cry from what Sony is delivering.

@Quorthon - I had to stop reading that article after the 1st paragraph when I saw the date was June 2008. Not saying it was wrong at that time, but hardly anything in tech is the same now as 7 years ago.

And it's ok to bad mouth things, but the constant usage of that site, which is the only one ever used, is always accompanied by either 1 of 2 things - either the person referencing it bad mouths it, or if they don't somebody will bad mouth them for not bad mouthing it. At some point people either need to join a different political party or at the very least don't vote in the election (to borrow your comparison).

Guess I'm just sick of all the bad mouthing.

I'll actually buy and eat my hat as well if this game comes to the Wiiu. But only if i can buy IT digitally,cause like hell i'm going to a store and ask for this game for the Wiiu. And i really want to see you guys get disappointed with this game,it's going to be amazing!

@rjejr

The article has nothing to do with "tech age" and everything to do with how a website operates, which has no bearing on "time." It's about methodology, not technology. I think you stopped reading for entirely the wrong reasons. It's not like it was an article from 2001 telling you why N-Gage is going to be the next big thing. The Gamasutra examination of VGChartz remains largely valid.

I don't understand your reasoning. It doesn't fit. Unless there is a newer article showing that VGChartz has changed how they operate, but the article backs up a general industry consensus that VGChartz is unreliable. No offense, but this dismissal seems rather petty.

This seems to indicate that you will only consider something valid if it is constantly updated every single year so you have a "new version" even if the new version largely backs up the old ones. People try that tactic with evolution saying it's a "theory from 150 years ago" while ignoring the 150 years of evidence backing it up.

Here is another article from 2010: http://www.examiner.com/article/why-vgchartz-isn-t-considered-reliable

Which quotes an age-old problem with VGChartz:

Since its inception in September 2005, VGChartz has not been considered a reliable source of data by many companies and websites because they have never disclosed the sources of their information.

Emphasis mine. I'm curious if you're defending VGChartz at this point, which has me wondering if you didn't read the article because you didn't want to see the site refuted. I don't think that's where you're going, but it's starting to get that "feeling," if you will. Essentially, regardless of "article age," VGChartz is not accurate, and logistically, for them to be able to get the insanely "specific" numbers they post every single week would take a massive team with ridiculous connections worldwide, and that's just not remotely realistic. Even major companies have no idea what they're selling week-to-week on every thing in every market. For those selling on the Wii U, for instance, it may take a month to find out how a game has sold in that time.

But again, point taken--I will not reference that craptacular site anymore. Twas a mistake.

@Quorthon - The year the article was written is VERY relevant. 7 years is a long time. They could have compltley new management, completely new sources, a completely different philosophy on managing their accuracy. Maybe they are exactly the same company, but I doubt it. Not everybody carried around a tablet or smartphone 7 years ago to track data or scan barcodes. Technology makes our lives easier and it should be able to make data tracking better.

Honestly if the company hasn't updated their methodology in 7 years then I trust them even less.

@Quorthon

As of 9:01 pm eastern time black ops 2 has 1,676 people online. All at once. On to the next point....

I would take Nintendo's exclusive line up that I listed over those 80 games any day. The exclusives I listed will last me this year and beyond. Quality over quantity. And I'm not even listing ALL the indie games Wii U will be getting this year.

@Quorthon Nah I was all about the Wii and 360 last gen, traded them both in for the Wii U

@rjejr
VGCharts has gotten a lot better over the last few years. These days their HARDWARE figures are never very far away from the official figures, give or take a couple thousand, but well within the accepted boundaries . At least the boundaries set by a reasonable person, you don't expect them to be spot on to the single console.
I was a member of that site for many years and some of us members scrutinised those figures carefully.
As for software sales that's another matter.

@Quorthon
The last time I played BO2 on the Wii U (maybe a year and half ago. I am in Europe. It was about 8pm Saturday) they were approx. 188 people online.

It is pointless trying to convince a Nintendo fanboy about the quantity of PS4 or Xbox games. They always answer with the predictable "Quality over quantity".
But one man's quality is another man's rubbish.

Quality (in terms of gaming and many things in general) is subjective. People choose what they conceive as quality. They do so with their wallets and the sales tell me the overwhelming majority do NOT consider Nintendo Wii U or it's games quality.
But to each his own opinion, even if he is the only one with that opinion.

So is Nintendo Life still covering this game or is this article a one off? Pushsquare has 2 articles up today, apparently things are leaking out ahead of the big reveal. But no matter whether Wii U is mentioned or not Sammy tends to ignore it over there.

Doesnt look good so far

http://kotaku.com/call-of-duty-black-ops-iii-will-be-out-on-nov-6-new-g-1700024610

@Hotfusion

Last night at 9:01pm there were 1700 people on Black Ops 2 for Wii U. Facts are great bro.

And the fact that Nintendo exclusives hold their value in the market for so long proves quality. Metroid Prime Collection on Wii before it came out on the Wii U eshop is a perfect example.

Would be cool if Activision continued to surrport Wii U more, they do with their more toonie games, but more popular games would be great. Having something unique to Wii U would give it an edge on selling, so long as they advertised the dam thing. Plus, it's the only current generation console that offers free online multiplayer.